HR Interviews Playlist

TRF feat Bas Van de Haterd Co - Author of Talent Acquisition Excellence. Get it now on Amazon or anywhere you get your books! We welcome back our favorite Dutchman, Bas. With 5 books published under his belt, Bas shares his inspiration for a truly global perspective on the TA profession and how partnering with the OG of TA, Kevin Wheeler was the perfect match. Spoiler Alert: There is no connection between formal credentials & on the job performance. RPO is a North American thing Don't bother advertising your job in the Middle East. The Netherland’s solution to paid job advertising and how they have simplified the background check. An inspirational example of digital recruitment marketing. Perspective check, Bas debunks the myth that AI will harm hiring.

In case you missed it, automation, ranking candidates, DEI and managing applicants are all pretty popular solutions in the HR tech stratosphere. But all things for a 80 percent of the non-enterprise market? Well, that's a tough task to say that least, but startup SmartRank thinks they've got the secret sauce, promising to stack-rank and filter job applicants without using a resume, and helping companies achieve their DE&I initiatives by removing unconscious bias from the screening process. That's not all, but you get the idea. Do they have a better mousetrap or just another pile of mouse droppings? Gotta listen to find out.

It is almost four years since the first pandemic lockdowns, and even now, it doesn't seem long enough to get a proper perspective on how much the pandemic has changed things. It is already pretty clear that expectations of and attitudes to work have shifted considerably, with significant implications for recruiting and retention. My Guest this week is Annette Andrews, Founder & Director of Acaria Coaching and a former Chief People Officer. Annette works with large organizations to help them adjust their people practices and policies to align with the post-pandemic perspectives of their employees and future employees. She has some valuable insights on what employers need to do to attract and retain the talent they need. In the interview, we discuss: The current challenges for employers and why these are different from what we've seen in the past. Benefits, culture and wellbeing Showcasing the employee experience Implications for retention The human impact of a deteriorating candidate experience Five generations in the workforce Dealing with systemic ageism Talent mobility across industries and disciplines Changing the structure of the people function. How technology will shape the future Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

These are turbulent times for talent acquisition, particularly for those teams operating in the technology sector. Despite the continuing demand for technology skills, layoffs are still happening, with many TA teams now considerably downsized from where they were a couple of years ago. Proving TA's strategic and monetary value has never been more critical, so how can TA leaders make their business case against such a challenging backdrop? My guest this week is Sam Bethoud, VP of Talent Solutions at hackajob. Sam combines his experience working with a vast number of talent acquisition leaders with hackajob's huge dataset to provide some excellent insights into the tech recruiting market and highly actionable advice on tactics TA can employ to prove the scale of its value to the business. In the interview, we discuss: The current state of the tech recruiting market TA's commercial impact How does TA create measurable monetary value? The importance of data How else can TA be strategic? Changing job seeker behaviour What impact will AI have on the future? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Rolondo Talbott. Rolondo Talbott (pronouns are he/him/his and we/us/ours) is a passionate DEI leader, veteran, neurodiverse individual who has several invisible disabilities and is driven by the mantra to, “Do Good, Seek Justice, and Correct Oppression.” Rolondo’s current role is in the entertainment sector but before that, he served as the Senior DEI Business Partner for Amazon’s Robotics and Artificial Intelligence Division, where he honed his ability to cultivate inclusivity and equity in global tech. Before that role, Rolondo was a DEI leader in higher education where he studied the intersections between DEI and technology in examining new and innovative ways to make tech and digital more inclusive. But Rolondo’s passion for DEI extends beyond the corporate world. Rolondo’s accolades as an author and columnist further illustrate his dedication to promoting diversity and inclusion in his personal life. His initial children’s book, “Uniquely Me: A Celebration of Multi-cultural and Multi-ethnic Families,” received the prestigious 2017 Children’s Book of the Year award from Disney’s Parenting magazine, “Babble.” And his short-form novel, “1000 Papercuts,” delves into the profound impact of microaggressions on children and can be found in public school libraries across Southern California. His insights and experiences have not gone unnoticed in the media. Rolondo has been featured in Voyage LA online magazine as part of their “People to Know” segment, and he was highlighted in Shoutout LA online magazine’s ’Unique Perspectives” segment. His wisdom and perspective have become valuable touchstones for those seeking to create more equitable environments. In addition to his prolific work, Rolondo is also contributing to groundbreaking research on workplace equity, collaborating with LinkedIn and the University of Southern California’s Race and Equity Center. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys dive into the world of recruitment aggregators and the challenges they face with the rise of AI in talent acquisition. They discuss how some aggregators are adapting with personalization and AI capabilities, while others struggle to evolve and invest, potentially leading to their demise. The podcast also covers the potential rise of pay-per-apply models driven by AI predictions. Plus, they share their thoughts on recent industry news, including the shutdown of Finnish HRtech startup Workfellow, the launch of Amsterdam-based Samen Slimmer AI's venture Qneiform, the legal ruling affecting anonymity of reviewers on sites like Kununu, HelloWork's impressive growth and the birth of JobiJoba (what?) and a whole lot more.

With the development and adoption of AI accelerating at an unprecedented pace, the demand for data scientists and data skills in general is snowballing. To recruit successfully in this competitive talent market, TA teams must understand the specific data skills their organisation needs and the intrinsic career motivations of the data professionals they seek to engage with. My guest this week is Akshay Swaminathan, Head of Data Science at Cerebral and co-author of a new book called "Winning With Data Science". In our conversation, Akshay offers an insider view on the data science talent market, what motivates data scientists to move companies and the most effective recruiting process for people with this skillset. Essential listening for anyone recruiting data science professionals or working in talent markets with similar skills shortages. In the interview, we discuss: The growing demand for data science professionals The specific data skills that employers currently need Is there any consistency in data science job titles? What would motivate a data science professional to move jobs? How should recruiters source and engage in this talent market What type of hiring process will drive the most successful outcomes? Gig working and fractional working Creating business value from AI What skills will be needed in the future as the development and adoption of AI ramps up? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Live from TA Week at the Qualifi booth, the boys sit down with Carrie Corcoran, a leading expert in employment branding and recruitment marketing. With her extensive experience in the industry and her passion for helping businesses create inclusive and diverse work environments, Carrie is a force to be reckoned with. In this episode, we dive deep into the world of employer branding and discuss its importance in attracting top talent. Carrie shares her insights on how companies can leverage technology to improve the candidate experience and create a positive employer brand. As the founder of Carrie Cares Employment Brand Consulting, Carrie has helped numerous businesses develop and implement effective strategies to improve their employer brand and recruitment efforts. She is also a strong advocate for the over 50 workforce, believing that they have a wealth of knowledge and experience to offer companies.

Work and jobs are changing, and the speed of change continues to accelerate. Whether you are in the fourth decade of your working life or looking for your first job, managing a career against this background of disruptive, often unpredictable change is a challenge for everyone. Things are also being made worse by continuing pay inequality and workplace bias. My guests this week are Grace Puma, the former COO of Pepsico and Christiana Smith Shi, the former President of Direct to Consumer at Nike. Grace and Christiana have recently authored a book called "Career Forward - Strategies from Women Who Have Made It". The motivation behind writing the book was to empower women to maximise their career journey, get paid what they are worth and navigate the unexpected shifts that happen in the current world of work. There is some excellent advice here that Grace and Christiana believe is applicable to everyone looking to develop their career in our turbulent times. In the interview, we discuss: The Career Forward Mindset Having a "Cardinal Direction" instead of a North Star The importance of mentors and sponsors Steering into the skid to deal with unexpected challenges Building career equity Dealing with pay inequality Reinventing work-life balance How can employers make the workforce fair and equitable? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

TRF welcomes Chano Fernandez Co-CEO of Eightfold Chano brings an impressive track record with his career built in the HR Tech world and his incredible depth of knowledge from industry giants like SAP and Workday We tackle the topic of how Eightfold, by design, has 2 CEOs. Chano shares his expertise on how AI is being applied for the betterment of HR within organizations. Internal mobility is the top trend in our space, identifying skills development opportunities and how generative AI, like Chatbots can help co-pilot the HR professional and Leaders. Advice for organizations considering Talent Intelligence platforms; ask yourself, “Am I ready for this?”

Who's ready for a new generation to enter the workforce? Well, like it or not, Gen Z is on their way in, and - stop me if you've heard this one before - they're different from all the preceding generations. How exactly? Well, no clue. That's why we invited Anthony Onesto, advisor, chief people officer, Gen Z & Future of Work Visionary and author of The New Employee Contract to the podcast. All kidding aside, a generation who's grown up in the shadow of 9/11, the Great Recession and a global pandemic, all while never knowing a world without internet and a smartphone are bound to introduce a wide variety of nuance to the world. And that, of course, includes recruitment and retention in new and sometimes scary ways. If you're hiring Gen Z, and hoping they stay awhile, you owe it to yourself to tune into this episode.

The shelf life of skills is getting ever shorter, which has significant implications for talent acquisition. It is essential that TA leaders take an active role in developing the overall skills strategy for their business. If employers want to be effective skills-based organizations, it is clear that talent acquisition, talent management, L&D and strategic workforce planning must be closely aligned. My guest this week is Malcolm Taylor, Head of Capability at the UK Health Security Agency. In the last few years, Malcolm has led a highly effective initiative to use data to drive upskilling, talent development and talent acquisition. In our conversation, he shares valuable insights on skills strategy and some interesting perspectives on the likely role AI will play in L&D in the future. In the interview, we discuss: Why upskilling is so essential in 2024 The shortening life cycle of skills Engagement and retention Teaching people how to learn Mapping skills within the organization Can AI create a common skills language across professions? Data-driven decision making Community-based learning The role of TA in skills-based organizations The importance of removing silos in the people function. What does the future look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts

One of the most interesting and controversial book in the HR section in a long while! Hilke brings the investigative journalist and an industry outsider to her new book “The Algorithm: How AI decides who gets hired, monitored, promoted & fired & why we need to fight back now.” A fateful cab ride was the genesis of the book, when the Lyft driver was gobsmacked by being interviewed by a robot for a baggage handler job at the local airport, Hilke began her quest to learn more. The one-way video interview and its inevitable demise when HireVue’s claims of facial expressions to predict candidate’s honesty was proven to be crap. Talent Intelligence platforms like Eightfold can prove to be a positive force in helping organization know who to promote and like any double edge sword, cursed for its contribution on who should be laid off, How do we fight back? Hilke gives some sound advice to HR Leaders. Crystal ball predictions for 2030, sound pretty accurate to us!

No one in the world of work likes form-filling, complex systems and bureaucracy. Yet, teams need to feel motivated, aligned, and accountable on the job, which usually means a lot of that stuff we hate. So what's an employer to do? OnLoop is here to turn every manager into a supercharged coach, and CEO and founder Projjal "JJ" Ghatak is on Firing Squad to try and prove his company has the juice to fulfill that promise and take it to established players like Lattice, 15five, Culture Amp and others. Does this former Uber executive's startup have what it takes to survive Chad & Cheese? Gotta listen to find out.

Conversations about AI's impact on recruiting tend to focus entirely on the employer and recruiter viewpoint. However, it may well be that the most potent force of change for talent acquisition comes from AI-facilitated shifts in jobseeker behaviour. Employers are already seeing a rise in applications they suspect are being driven by AI tools that facilitate bulk applying. The use of LLMs to create or edit resumes is undoubtedly widespread, and we are also seeing examples of AI being used to hack online interviews and assessments. There is still much debate about where these activities fall on the scale, from legitimate assistance to outright fraud. What is very clear, though, is that this is an unstoppable tide that will have severe implications for recruiting processes. What do employers do when they are inundated by applications perfectly tailored to the role that are impossible to assess using current tools and techniques? My guest this week is Richard Collins, Co-Founder of CV Wallet. Richard has decades of experience in recruitment marketing and talent acquisition. He has recently been diving deeply into the issues caused by jobseeker use of AI and how the solutions to the problems might make recruiting better for everyone. In the interview, we discuss: The current talent marketplace AI-driven changes in job seeker and applicant behaviour The potential impact on the recruiting process Challenges of dealing with an increasing volume of applications Unreliable applicant data Pre-qualifying and pre-verifying without creating friction in the process Will we see a revolution in assessment and selection? How do we define what is cheating or fraud? A shift to assessing soft skills How does recruitment marketing need to adapt A cost-per-qualified application model Proactive versus reactive change How much change will there be in 2024 What does the future of recruiting look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In case you missed it, the nursing profession is going through a pretty challenging time. Whether it's COVID burnout, a severe lack of skilled workers or the Baby Boomers putting immense pressure on the health care system - just to mention a few - times are tough. It's certainly an issue Chad & Cheese aren't qualified to solve, let alone fully understand. That's why Dr. Beth A. Brooks, president of The Brooks Group, joined the boys to discuss a wide variety of topics, such as the current state of nursing, how the gig economy is impacting the profession, the power of pay transparency and if / when the robots will finally be the ones giving colonoscopies. It's a must listen for nurse recruiting professionals, healthcare networks around the country and, frankly, nurses themselves.

Round Up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests. Episodes mentioned in this Round Up: Ep 584: Talent-Centered Design Ep 585: Embracing Automation Ep 586: Removing Silos to Improve Hiring and Retention Ep 587: Getting The Basics Right Ep 588: AI, Background Checks and Quality of Hire Ep 589: Talent Acquisition As A Competitive Advantage Ep 590: The Road To 2030 Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

The last few years have taught us that no one can predict the future. However, you can develop the insight necessary to make accurate forecasts with the right combination of trend analysis and strategic thinking. We are currently in a period of accelerated change in talent acquisition, and it is essential to understand the direction of travel even if we can't predict the final destination. We must anticipate the skills that will be required in the future, how we can recruit them, and how talent acquisition must change to be fit for this new purpose. My guest this week is Russell Beck, Director of Inspiration at ImagineThinkDo and author of a new book called "The World Of Work to 2030". The book looks at the megatrends shaping the future, and Russell's background and experience in RPO means he can provide some relatable insights into the likely future of talent acquisition. In the interview, we discuss: Six megatrends shaping the future Future skills and how we hire them AI is removing your uniqueness. From STEM to STEAM Artistic engineers The cost of bad hiring How does TA need to change How can we future-proof our careers? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

As the debates about the future of talent acquisition rumble on, it's important to focus intensely on the critical value effective hiring brings to the organization. Talent remains a key differentiator that drives competitive advantage for a company, and this will be even more true in the future. My guest this week is Simon Taylor, Head of Organization Effectiveness at Gap Inc., who has authored a forthcoming book called "Build Smart: A Blueprint for Building a High-Performing Organization." Simon has a TA background and, in the book, outlines just how critical hiring is for companies. In our conversation, he shares his insights into what makes great hiring and its role in high-performing organizations. In the interview, we discuss: Common talent issues companies are facing. How important is recruiting in 2024? Competitive advantage from high-quality talent acquisition The long-term impact of bad hiring What makes a great hire The importance of potential Upskilling hiring managers and changing their mindset How to get buy-in across the organization Leveraging data to illustrate opportunities Why AI will be huge for talent acquisition Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

TRF welcomes Mike Ehrle CEO at ClickBoarding Bringing an impressive background in the employee benefit industry, Mike knows a great technology when he sees it. The launch of their Click Retain product and the partnership with Alight to name a few. Best practices for pre-boarding to eliminate day one ghosts Onboarding, listen to why anything above zero, is a problem. Prepare to be impressed, Mike give us some well informed predictions for 2024

We say a lot of things on the podcast that people disagree with. Most people stop short of writing a blog post about how wrong they think one, or both, of us are. However, Jeff Dickey-Chasins, affectionately known as Job Board Doctor, decided to put the virtual pen-to-paper and express how wrong Joel was in his analysis of how job boards are facing a Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the form of Google / LinkedIn, AI, automation and the gig economy. Just when you think the debate will get too nasty to take, Chad swoops in as peacemaker ... or is it instigator? A must listen for every job board employee and customer alike. The Doctor is IN.

The future of recruiting is a popular topic these days. With AI and automation tools that are on a whole other level to tech of the past, many wonder how the future will play out for the profession that has for so long been a staple of corporate strategy. Fortunately, we have wise ol' veterans who know the past, but can also see around corners better than most. Age and vision are in short supply. That's why we had Kevin Wheeler, author, speaker and founder of Global Learning Resources, to the podcast. Kevin has a new book coming out in February entitled, “Talent Acquisition Excellence: Using Digital Capabilities and Analytics to Improve Recruitment,” that will prove helpful to those hoping the navigate the future like an ancient oracle. We're talkin' predictions for 2024, the pandemic impact, labor uprisings, how the kids are alright, and much more. Listen, subscribe, like and share.

Background checking is an area we've never really covered on the podcast. In the past, it has just felt like a necessary but very functional part of the hiring process. However, with the explosion in our digital footprints and the power of AI, that has now changed. So, how can background checks now help prevent workplace misconduct and improve the quality of hire? Where does AI fit in, and how can we ensure everything is legal and ethical? My guest this week is Ben Mones, CEO and Founder at Fama, an online screening technology company working with employers worldwide. If you haven't looked at what is happening in background screening for a while, this conversation with Ben will help you get up to date with what is possible. In the interview, we discuss: The impact of workplace misconduct Talent screening How background checks have evolved in the last 10. years The "Cambrian explosion" of digital information Using AI to unlock the signal from the noise The importance of applying human expertise and judgment The dangers of hiring managers doing their own checking How does AI-driven screening work Legislation, Compliance, Ethics and Bias Improving the quality of hire What does the future look like Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

This week on TRF we cover: Wayfair CEO says uses his outside voice - again. He thinks he’s Elon Musk and can get away with saying whatever pops into his head. Its cringe worthy. Flockity, friend of the show Tracy Parsons creates the first Influencer platform for jobs. Hiring Branch study shows some surprising data on language skills connection to success on the job. In the News Canada pumps the brakes on the number of International students, for all the right reasons. WebMD parent company Internet brands return to office video is so bad, we don't think their employer brand will ever recover. Tip of the Week The top 15 jobs people want to quit. This list is a recruitment marketer's dream. Leverage this for the skills that will easily transfer to your organization. Recruiting Insights The weirdness of the US labour market continues. Job seeker behaviour is changing, more discerning than ever before. Job postings in November took a nose dive and the rate of hiring dropped like a rock too, something we’ve not seen since the 2008 crash. Adriano Herdman strikes again. This week is the 21 Talent Acquisition Tatics comparison chart. Just brilliant.

With so much focus on potentially AI-driven disruptive change and debate about the future, it is sometimes easy to forget that many employers are still struggling to develop and leverage their culture, and some still lack basic standardized processes for talent acquisition and other aspects of the people function. Looking at what is happening in start-up and scale-up businesses is always interesting. They build business functions from a blank sheet of paper and often develop interesting new ways of thinking and working. My guest this week is Roza Szafranek, Founder and CEO at HR Hints. HR Hints acts as the external HR team to over 70 scaling companies. Roza has used this experience to develop the Culturivy method of building organizational cultures and processes, which she has shared in a recent book called Culturivy: The Power of Changing a Workplace. Roza believes employers should address some long-standing issues in TA, such as candidate experience and biased hiring processes. She also has a counterpoint view on the current efficacy of AI in hiring. In the interview, we discuss: Building and scaling organizational culture Managing a burnt-out workforce Leveraging culture to power engagement Practices, behaviours, and values How should companies think about talent? Strengthening the candidate experience Building a non-biased recruitment process Verifying candidates as a good match Will AI and Automation have the impact we think they will Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts

The Recruitment Flex welcomes Cameron Laker CEO at MindField. If you think RPO is just rent-a-recruiter, prepare to be blown away by what Cameron has built, right here in Canada. 12,000 jobs filled in 2023, makes us dizzy just thinking about how to pull that off. He shares how he did it. Cameron openly shares his POV on HR tech and hints at some of the NON-industry thinking behind their incredible success. Fears and reality of the hourly worker in Canada. 2024 looks to be the year of the RPO

We had employee referral software solution Real Links, and their CEO and co-founder Sam Davies, on Firing Squad four years ago. Chad gave them a rousing applause, while Cheese was a bit more tempered, giving them a gold clap. Needless to say, a lot has happened in the world since January 2020, so we thought a reunion would be apropos. When we last talked to Davies, they had just raised a little over a million bucks, employed nine people and were considering changing their domain from dot-io to a dot-com. So what's new? Ya' gotta listen to find out. Spoiler alert: LinkedIn has been as integral to their business as they thought it'd be. Visit www.reallinks.io for more.

The ever-shortening shelf life of skills, fast-changing business priorities, ageing populations, and changing attitudes to work means that retaining the right talent is not only more difficult than ever, it is also likely to remain so for years to come. It's not surprising, then, that Talent Leaders are starting to think differently about the structure of their function to remove silos and foster collaboration between Talent Acquisition, Talent Management, L&D and other vital people functions. So what kind of overarching vision is needed to drive effective cross-function thinking, and what strategic role should TA play internally within the organization? My guest this week is Hélène Loine, VP of Human Resources at Ekkiden. Hélène has a background in recruiting, working at rapidly scaling companies. Her focus at Ekkiden is building a shared vision of employee experience to connect HR silos to improve hiring and retention. In the interview, we discuss: The TA challenges in scaling different types of business The importance of understanding your target audience Automation and AI Using technology and a shared vision to connect the silos in HR Different ways of thinking about talent Building a people-centric talent function Looking at employee experience holistically to drive retention Personalization How can TA use data and insights to contribute strategically inside the business? What does the future of TA look like? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Artificial intelligence and the world of work are strange bedfellows, especially when it comes to recruiting. It's OK if you're a bit confused, but trust us, you're not alone. We're pretty lost too, particularly when you start imagining where things could go as AI develops at lightning speeds. That's why we invited Hilke Schellmann, NYU Professor, Emmy Award-Winning Technology Journalist, and author of How AI Decides Who Gets Hired, Monitored, Promoted, and Fired and Why We Need to Fight Back Now to the podcast. Together, we cover a broad range of topics from her take on HR Tech, to bias on steroids to rampant sexism to vocal biomarkers (say what?). It's a must-listen for navigating the ever-evolving minefield that is AI in recruiting.

TRF feat Andrew Flowers Labour Economist with Appcast: Andrew recaps the 2023 labour market for US, Canada and Europe and a big round of applause on his predictions all being correct! The increase in US states who are adopting pay transparency laws and the positive impact it is having on candidate quality. Beige is the color of 2024. Its kind of what we wished for in 2020! The 2 labour markets, standing up jobs and sitting down jobs. Victim of success, Canada’s immigration model puts extra pressure on housing WFH bites into commercial real estate 2024 predictions are good new bad news!

As I've said before, automation is inevitable in talent acquisition. Automation can bring essential efficiencies and a vastly improved and personalized experience for everyone when done correctly. The question shouldn't be, do we automate; instead, TA and HR leaders need to ask what we automate and how we do it. My guest this week is Brigette McInnis-Day, Chief People Officer at UiPath. UiPath has been at the vanguard of Robotic Process Automation for several years, helping companies automate systems and processes across different parts of the enterprise. Brigette has deep expertise in automation and HR Tech and highlights some critical areas that TA Leaders should pay attention to. The first is using an enterprise automation platform to bring data, processes and quality of experience together across the entire organization. There is an assumption that TA tools will drive recruiting automation, and it is essential to understand that integrated company-wide automation strategies may dictate the pace of change. Brigette also highlights some excellent use cases, including how UI Path has automated onboarding to offer a quicker and more personalized experience. In the interview, we also discuss: How automation improves experience Why are HR and TA so hesitant about automation? How the employer/employee relationship has changed Automation driven personalization Thinking holistically and planning strategically The impact of automation on jobs and careers Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

There is a growing consensus that 2024 will see the start of some fundamental changes in Talent Acquisition. The adoption of Skills-based hiring and the rapid development of AI are the catalysts here, but to truly understand what is happening, we must take a step back and understand the forces driving this potential revolution. Work is changing fast, skills have an ever-shortening shelf life, and talent is still in short supply in many markets. Companies need to think differently about talent to grow and deliver value, and this is the driving force that will use skills-based thinking and AI to re-engineer the corporate talent function. So what are the practicalities around this, and what kind of mindset does TA need to adopt to help drive rather than resist the change? My guest this week is Jason Cerrato, VP of Market Strategy at Eightfold. In addition to working in an AI-driven HR Technology business, Jason has been a Director of Talent Acquisition and industry analyst. In our conversation, he draws on all of this experience to explain why talent-centered design is a critical foundation of the future of talent acquisition. In the interview, we discuss: The main talent challenges in 2024 What is talent-centred design? Building around talent rather than around jobs The accelerating shelf life of skills Real-time data and intelligence The role of technology Prioritising skills over job titles and previous experience Redefining talent management The future role of recruiters How much change will happen in 2024? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

What's going to happen to all those remote-work unicorns who raised hundreds of millions during the pandemic, now that RTO is back and WFH is out? What's the current state of M&A in HR Tech in 2023, heading into 2024? And when will the IPO dam finally break and throw companies like iCIMS, Greenhouse, Personio and others to the public markets? All great questions, but ones Chad & Cheese aren't exactly proficient in answering. That's why we asked Jim Holzer, managing partner at Drake Star Partners, on the pod. Jim manages M&A and capital raising in the HR tech vertical for Drake Star. A must listen for anyone raising, selling or just surviving this turbulent market. Don't go into 2024 without checking this one out.

In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Jackye Clayton is joined by special guest Donald Knight, Chief People Officer at Greenhouse, as they engage in a dynamic, thought-provoking conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace. Donald Knight shares his journey from his initial aspiration to pursue a legal career to his current role as Chief People Officer at Greenhouse, and the pivotal role his CHRL, Katee Kennedy, played in shaping his career path. His extensive experience working at multiple companies, including his current position, adds depth and insight to the conversation. Donald also reflects on his role as a father and emphasizes the importance of raising his children with a deep appreciation for different cultures and perspectives. The episode concludes with Donald Knight's emphasis on the importance of influencing narratives around the future of work and his refusal to relinquish this responsibility to those who may not have the same standards or experiences. Jackye Clayton adds her insights, underlining the crucial distinction between genuine practitioners and individuals who only provide knowledge without true engagement in the work. Links: 1. Greenhouse - https://www.greenhouse.io/ 2. Black Women on Boards - https://www.blackwomenonboards.org/ 3. Textio 2023 DEIB Report - https://textio.com/deib-report-2023 4. Donald Knight's LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/proximityknight 5. Inclusive AF Podcast Website - https://www.inclusiveafpodcast.com/

In person at the HR Tech conference we get the update from CEO Ben Mones. Big year so far with FAMA - they are the leading platform for screening for workplace misconduct. FAMA acquires Social Intelligence, better friends than foes. The Hunova partnership offers a comprehensive talent intelligence, it feels like the first time you downloaded Waze - life just got easier. The most common type of workplace issue is harassment. Business impact of hiring bad apples will spoil the whole barrel.

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese sit down with Taylor Weiss, a Technology Investor at PeakSpan Capital. Taylor discusses her role, preferences for startups, emphasizing the importance of honest, succinct pitches. The conversation explores tech founders' ages, backing the right founder, excitement for innovative solutions in HR Tech, and leveraging AI for career advancement. Taylor stresses honesty's significance in career progression, proposing early education on self-awareness. She advises startups to align with investors' ethos and highlights PeakSpan's focus on alignment with entrepreneurs. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.

Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests. Episodes mentioned in this Round Up: Ep 573: The Power Of Employee Value Propositions Ep 579: The Value Of Employer Branding Ep 582: Employer Branding With Gen AI Ep 576: Generative AI – A TA Progress Report Ep 578: The AI Hype Cycle Ep 574: Building A Successful TA Function Ep 575: RPO Evolution Ep 577: Hiring In Challenging Talent Markets Ep 581: An Inflection Point For Recruiting? Ep 580: A New Community For Women In TA Ep 583: Re-Inventing Your Career Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts A full transcript will appear here shortly.

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese are joined by Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner. We're talking the impact of AI and technology on HR and employment, including issues like remote work accommodations, discrimination claims, and the increasing use of generative AI. Sonderling breaks down the importance of considering the legal and ethical implications of AI in the workplace and urges HR pros to engage in the interactive process when addressing accommodation requests. He also discusses the rise in retaliation claims and shares details about the EEOC's first AI-specific case involving a hiring website. To learn more about the EEOC, visit www.eeoc.gov. Commissioner Sonderling can be found on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/keith-sonderling. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.

It's been a brutal year for many in talent acquisition, with a lot of layoffs and a very tough job market, making it challenging to find other roles. This removal of certainty and stability has been mirrored in many different talent markets and looks like becoming the norm moving forward. Traditionally, switching careers and industries has been challenging, but will the rise of skills-based thinking change this moving forward? So, how do we think about careers moving forward, and what do employers need to do to ensure they are getting the right skills in their business? My guest this week is Ilana Golan, Founder and CEO of Leap Academy. Leap Academy is a coaching programme that helps professionals fast-track their careers by changing function or industry, by moving into leadership, or by making the jump to be an entrepreneur. In the interview, we discuss: How work and careers are changing Practical advice for job seekers Adapting, learning and re-inventing The challenging pace of change A mindset shift for employers Dealing with Ageism Rising above the noise The impact of AI What will career paths look like in the future? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts. A full transcript will appear here shortly.

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese are joined by Heather Bussing, a legal expert in employment law. They discuss the topic of pay equity and how it impacts diversity and inclusion in the workplace. They explore how technology can help address pay equity issues and the importance of pay transparency. They also touch on the rise of unions and the impact of COVID-19 on changing perspectives in the workforce. Heather shares her insights on how employers can navigate these challenges and ensure fair compensation for their employees. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.

Most of the conversation around generative AI in 2023 has focused on its potential and future long-term strategic impact. However, many talent acquisition teams have been doing some hands-on experimentation with the tools to see what is achievable right now. My guests this week are Bryan Peereboom, Head of Recruitment at Wortell, and Friso Visser, Lead Recruitment Marketeer at Wortell. Wortell has been using generative AI to create recruitment marketing content this year that makes them stand out in the market. In our conversation, Bryan and Frisso discuss their experiences using the tools and their plans for an AI-first future. In the interview, we discuss: Standing out in a crowded market Using Generative AI to develop content assets Midjourney, Chat GPT, Dalle3, Runway and Opus Staying up to date with rapidly advancing tech Engaging hard-to-find audiences Is AI saving time and resources? Analysing data faster Automating processes while improving the candidate experience What is the future of talent acquisition? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Despite massive advances in technology and I/O psychology over the last 20 years, the recruiting process has stubbornly stuck with norms established nearly 100 years ago. There is a massive body of scientific evidence that debunks the effectiveness of resume-based screening. At the same time, narrow definitions of talent and inflexible thinking make it impossible for many employers to recruit the skills they need for their business. But are we finally about to see things change? Two potential catalysts are mass access to Gen AI, which threatens to break recruitment systems as employers become overwhelmed by automated applications and the rise of skills-based hiring being used to solve talent challenges. My guest this week is Caitlin MacGregor, CEO of Plum. Caitlin is on a mission to make recruiting fairer and more effective and help companies discover the true potential of their employees. Recruiting is changing, and this is a must-listen interview for anyone wanting to understand the direction the change is going in. In the interview, we discuss: Predicting long-term performance and retention How AI is amplifying the ineffectiveness of the recruiting process Mobility, retention and alternative pools of talent Challenging long-established norms Improving productivity by improving screening Connecting people to opportunities based on their strengths Democratising access to assessment Making data transparent and easy to understand How can employers accelerate their skills-based evolution? Understanding your bench The long-term future of recruiting How much change can happen in 2024? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Expanding talent pipelines with alternative strategies for more diverse, and more effective, teams

In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, join host Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton as they engage in a candid and eye-opening conversation with special guest Jessica Miller-Merrell. They delve into the realms of mental health, authenticity, and HR industry challenges, offering valuable insights and actionable advice. From prioritizing self-care to navigating the impact of social media, the discussion is both thought-provoking and empowering, shedding light on the importance of setting boundaries, personal growth, and leveraging technology for a healthier work-life balance. Tune in for a dynamic dialogue that resonates with professionals and individuals alike, addressing the realities of today's landscape and advocating for inclusivity, well-being, and authenticity. #InclusiveAF #MentalHealth #HRChallenges #Authenticity #WorkLifeBalance #SelfCare #Empowerment #PodcastDiscussion #Inclusivity #Wellbeing #JessicaMillerMerrell

One of the things that I love about our industry is the sense of community. Wherever talent acquisition professionals gather, whether online or face-to-face, at industry events, there is always a strong emphasis on peer-to-peer learning and support. My guest this week is Krista Tan. Krista is a TA leader and the founder of Talent Collective, a non-profit organization building a community to help support the careers of women working in talent acquisition. In our conversation, Krista discusses the motivations for starting Talent Collective and the benefits curated communities can bring. With so much disruption in the market, we also discuss the advantages of working fractionally and what the future looks like for talent acquisition. In the interview, we discuss: The story behind Talent Collective and its purpose Who the community is for Market expectations for 2024 The benefits of fractional working Advice for TA professionals looking to move to fractional What does the future of talent acquisition look like? Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

One of the things that I love about our industry is the sense of community. Wherever talent acquisition professionals gather, whether online or face-to-face, at industry events, there is always a strong emphasis on peer-to-peer learning and support. My guest this week is Krista Tan. Krista is a TA leader and the founder of Talent Collective, a non-profit organization building a community to help support the careers of women working in talent acquisition. In our conversation, Krista discusses the motivations for starting Talent Collective and the benefits curated communities can bring. With so much disruption in the market, we also discuss the advantages of working fractionally and what the future looks like for talent acquisition. In the interview, we discuss: The story behind Talent Collective and its purpose Who the community is for Market expectations for 2024 The benefits of fractional working Advice for TA professionals looking to move to fractional What does the future of talent acquisition look like? Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

Sean Paulseth, based in Canada, is the Global Head of Sales for Silicon Valley’s Humanly.io. His career path is unique as he brings lived experience being a former HR professional. High volume hiring such as The Calgary Stampede who hires 3,500 people for 10 days, can now use technology to make the process more efficient. Conversational AI helps the job seeker experience by getting right to the heart of the matter - getting an interview. Fear of robots taking over the recruiter’s job are unfounded, AI can scale in a way that humans just can't, making recruiter’s lives better. Sean makes a well educated prediction for 2024.

Steve Rothberg looks at job boards dipping their toes into new pricing models.

Previously, In Episode 573, we explored the power of Employee Value Propositions; I want to follow up by having a similar conversation about employer branding. As companies re-invent their employee experience post-pandemic or look to rebuild their reputation post-layoffs, employer branding has never been more critical, particularly for employers recruiting in challenging talent markets. Definitions are fundamental here because, in the same way that developing an EVP isn't employer branding, employer branding isn't recruitment marketing. My guest this week is John Tarrant, Managing Partner at DNA. DNA is a UK-based employer branding agency with an impressive client list and vast experience in helping employers develop employer brands that are compelling, distinctive, and drive tangible value for the organization. In the interview, we discuss: Recruiting challenges Increasing candidate expectations ESG, diversity, and values Problems caused by lack of metrics Emotion over logic Employer brand as a strategy to appeal to current and future talent Identity plus reputation Redefining talent How can employers rescue their employer brand? The impact of AI and technology What's next for employer branding Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

It does feel like 2024 could be the inflection point where we can push away the hype and start to see what impact AI is really going to have on talent acquisition. Continuing my end-of-year theme of trying to find the signal in all the noise around generative AI, I wanted to get the perspective of a TA technology innovation practitioner to help us understand more about what 2024 might bring. My guest this week is Tom Chevalier, General Manager at Appcast Labs, a division of Appcast that focuses on innovation and creating the next generation of recruiting technology. Tom and his team are literally building part of the future, and unsurprisingly, he has some valuable insights and important advice to share. In the interview, we discuss: Where we are in the AI Hype Cycle The bundling of AI into established TA technologies Seeing through the marketing spin Where are the most interesting investments being made? What problems does AI solve, and what new issues does it create? Transforming the recruiting process Disruption in contingent staffing Use cases Implications for the careers of TA leaders and recruiters Download a copy of Appcast’s 2024 Recruiting Trends whitepaper Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.