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Podcast with Barbara Finlay on brain evolution and evo-devo
Season 2015 · Episode 2

Podcast with Barbara Finlay on brain evolution and evo-devo

How collaboration arrises and why it fails · Prof. Dr. Paul F.M.J. Verschure

March 15, 20261h 14m

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Show Notes

Why has the basic architecture of the vertebrate brain remained essentially unchanged for 450 million years , and is that a constraint or an optimal design? Evolutionary neuroscientist Barbara Finlay presents evidence that mammalian brain development follows a remarkably conserved nonlinear timetable, transformable across species with 99 percent accuracy by turning a single dial. Subscribe for more from the Convergent Science Network podcast series. Barbara Finlay joins Paul Verschure and Tony Prescott at the BCBT summer school to discuss the principles underlying brain evolution, drawing on her translatingtime.net database spanning 18 mammalian species. Her central finding is striking: the developmental schedule of the brain, from the birth of the first neurons to the onset of behavior, can be transformed from mouse to cat to monkey to human by a single nonlinear function with extraordinary precision. This conservation extends to remarkably specific events, including when Purkinje cells are born and when layer four cortical neurons are generated. The discussion explores whether this invariance represents a developmental constraint or an actively defended optimal design. Finlay argues for the latter, noting that 450 million years of evolution have preserved this architecture across radical changes in niche , from water to land to air and back. She identifies four core learning engines present in the earliest vertebrates , cortical association, hippocampal memory, basal ganglia reinforcement learning, and cerebellar optimization , and proposes that this combination may explain the explosive success of vertebrates. The conversation also examines how the relative sizes of brain structures trade off, particularly the inverse relationship between isocortex and olfactory bulb, which appears to be mediated by timing shifts in neurogenesis. Key topics include how a nonlinear developmental timetable predicts brain structure timing across all mammals, why the lateral edges of the embryonic brain produce the most variable and plastic structures, what Paul Katz's catalog of swimming marine mollusks reveals about the limits of evolvability, how critical periods may be self-initiated by appropriate input rather than fixed in time, and why the allocation of neural resources between sensory modalities follows predictable patterns shaped by both development and ecological niche. Part of the Convergent Science Network podcast series from the BCBT Summer School.