
Heterodorx
Collectively praised as “based TERF and Tranny,” Nina Paley and Corinna Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty.
Corinna Cohn
Show overview
Heterodorx has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 199 episodes. That works out to roughly 220 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 53 min and 1h 18m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Society & Culture show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 3 weeks ago, with 10 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Corinna Cohn.
From the publisher
“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com
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View all 199 episodesEpisode 195: Natalists, Outliers, and MAID for Podcasters with Meghan Daum
Episode 194: Veganism and Apostates

Episode 193: Ex X; X, Why?
After obligatory discussion of the weather and other old people stuff, Cori lulls Nina to sleep with tales of AI: training software developers to use Claude Code, how one set of commands yielded 20 results, and other top-tier content. Then he relates his entire social media history from college onwards, culminating in his decision to leave X 2 weeks ago. Nina recalls her incarcerations in Fecebook Jail but can’t remember what funny intro she was gonna use this week. Plus: ramen shivs, Twitter fights, the algorithm and the app, titration, vegan Terffles, and more!Links:XX-XY Athletic Wear: https://www.xx-xyathletics.com/Sora AI generated cat videos: Sora: https://sora.chatgpt.com/Grok Imagine: https://grok.com/imagineAnheiser-Busch Superbowl ad:Lierre Keith’s The Vegetarian Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Vegetarian-Myth-Food-Justice-Sustainability/dp/1604860804 Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 192: Bicycle Dreams
Recording shortly before Cori deletes his X account, the Dorx discuss chometz, pre-Pesach purging, and locking breakfast cereal in the basement. Nina feels “more Zionist than usual” and Cori criticizes Israel. Then Nina nerds out on recumbent bike history and describes the DREAM BIKE she is finally designing, dropping names like Craig Calfee, Gardner Martin, Fast Freddy Markham, Tom Teesdale, and AD Carson, while only hinting at frame-builder she’s collaborating with, Davis Carver. Cori wakes up from his nap and recalls searching “Death Before Detransition” on BlueSky, finding an unhinged rant by a “Silence-of-the-Lambs-level crazy” trans-identified male and likely future mass shooter (audio included). Plus: the Troon-to-Jew Pipeline, front- and back-end geometries, connecting supply chains with a jackshaft, Joscha Bach, Detransition Awareness Day, LiDAR, and Cori’s Substack. Jesus!Links:Cori’s Substack: https://substack.com/@corinnacohnNina’s dream bike blog page: https://ninapaley.com/jackalope-in-progress/Gone to Soldiers by Marge Piercy: https://margepiercy.com/gone-to-soldiersChampaign in the Bible: https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/ChampaignThe Economist: “At Last, A Just War” by Yair Lapid: https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2026/03/01/at-last-a-just-warMichigan synagogue attack: https://bridgemi.com/michigan-government/michigan-synagogue-attack-police-respond-to-shots-fired-truck-crash/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 191: Iran So Far Away
Nina is a Certified Food Handler, Cori is a Certified Ball Handler, and “bureaucracy just hasn’t been done right yet”. We helplessly learn about learned helplessness and why our episodes are so few and far between. Plus anomia (anomic aphasia), lesbian comedians, Robby Hoffman, rumination, and Iran. Why is the Islamic regime firing on its neighbors? Is this the beginning of World War 3? Is Nina emerging from cancellation? Why is Cori boycotting, divesting from and sanctioning NYC? If you can make it through all the distracting cat antics, you might hear some answers!Links:Iran So Far Away:Food Handler Certification: https://aaafoodhandler.com/illinois/food-handler-card/Disabling Impairments cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/disabling-impairments/Discount card sets: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/playing-cards-double-decker/Local non-woke bike shop: https://bakersbikes.com/Robby Hoffman “No Backsies!”Janet McNamera: Not Smart Enough:Our Zartosht Soltani interview: Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 190: The Thaw
Nina gets invited to an animation festival for the first time in years, turning her world upside-down. Then we discuss the Great Mail-Order Terffles Experiment, which by the time of this writing (2 weeks after our recording, because Cori’s depression delays his editing even more than usual) has successfully concluded. Next we talk about the mounting list of trans mass shooters, and the desire of wikipedia editors to suppress it. Also guns, Reddit, aspirational truthiness, New York City, bike helmets, memory loss, and of course CATS and HEALTH ISSUES. Czech it out!Links:Wikipedia editors try to suppress a list of Trans Mass Shooters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2026_March_3#Category:Mass_shootings_by_transgender_individualsI’ve Got A Little List:Trans Rhode Island shooter: https://www.aol.com/articles/rhode-island-shooter-revealed-divorced-145701661.htmlParanoid American interviews Nina about AI:Terffles: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terffles/ (password: yum) Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 189: (Potential) Panic at the Farmer's Market!
Nina weighs the pros and cons of offering her delicious chocolate Terffles at the local Farmer’s Market, while Cori is motivated by lulz. Is it a chocolate thing, or a gender thing? Which wins: love, humor, or domination? Can Cori work on the Sabbath? How can 2 things be true?? Plus: social climate change, Tranndies, just another trans male mass murderer, sex-denying journalists, cats, and the weather.We recorded this over 10 days ago, and since then Nina launched and completed this brief Terffles-by-Mail experiment: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terffles/(Link password: “yum”)That batch are literally in the mail now, making their way to their USA destinations.Links:Istanbul (Not Constantinople):Too Darn Hot:Art Coop “No TERFs” sign: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.htmlMen’s Pocky: https://candycritic.org/pockyformen.htmCarole Hooven calls out journalists lying about murderer’s sex:Pusslims: https://x.com/_Islamicat Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 188: The Trouble with Terffles
After Nina “sings” the theme song to The Electric Company and Cori talks about his cats, we discuss last week’s news: gender-critical lawyer Glenna Goldis’s hiring by the FTC post-firing by NY State Attorney General Letitia James, and detransitioner Fox Varian’s $2M lawsuit victory. Living up to our promise of quality content, we look up things on the Internet while recording. Then it’s time to talk Terffles: artisanal chocolates handmade (not handmaiden!) by a canceled TERF witch but inclusive of everyone. Will the Urbana Farmer’s Market accept Nina’s delicious Amaretto Amarena Amazeballs? Plus: “The age of Free Software is ending,” DEI parasites, PaleGray Labs, team names for a cat Cute-Off, Cory’s real name, and more!Links:Glenna Goldis hired by FTC: https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-admin-hires-glenna-goldis-lawyer-fired-by-letitia-jamesFox Varian $2M lawsuit: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2026/02/06/lawsuits-over-transgender-medicine-for-minors-could-be-hugeBenjamin Ryan, journalist: http://www.benryan.net/ASPS Statement: https://www.plasticsurgery.org/documents/health-policy/positions/2026-gender-surgery-children-adolescents.pdfAMA statement: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2026-02-06/american-medical-association-says-gender-surgeries-for-minors-should-waitThe Banality of Stupid (2017): https://ninapaley.com/2017/03/23/the-banality-of-stupid/Hannah Ahrendt: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/banality-of-evilInformed Dissent podcast: https://informeddissentpodcast.substack.com/The Lunduke Journal: https://lunduke.com/Rhapsody in BlueVirtuoso tap dancing:Disabling Impairments cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/disabling-impairments/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 187: Women Have Too Much Baggage
Enjoy a full hour of Cori and Nina at their best: arguing about attribution, pretending the male co-host is the “designated feminist,” and snarking about various current events. Cori asserts women, old people, and the disabled shouldn’t be on airplanes, and Nina, who is all 3 of those things, does her part. We read aloud an inane comment on our last episode that calls us “a genocide-supporting podcast.” Plus: Jo Freeman, Peggy McIntosh, Max Blumenthal, “self-hating Jews”, ICE vs Border Patrol, Jo Freeman, civil disobedience, buffoonery, policing, a ladyfinger in the face of the pope, Jo Freeman, misogyny, misandry, and Jo Freeman.Finally, a Listener Challenge: write a one-paragraph Anglican sermon about misogyny. Please leave yours in the comments!Links:Jo Freeman: https://www.jofreeman.com/Peggy McIntosh: https://www.wcwonline.org/Active-Researchers/peggy-mcintosh-phdKim K’s Komment: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-186-whats-happening-in-iran/comment/206704453The GrayZone: https://thegrayzone.com/Max Blumenthal: https://thegrayzone.com/author/max-blumenthal/Alex Pretti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_PrettiRenee Good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ren%C3%A9e_Goodcat on trampoline video (is it AI or not?):Civil Disboedience: https://blogs.law.columbia.edu/uprising1313/files/2017/10/Civil-Disobedience-by-Henry-David-Thoreau.pdfMalcolm X: https://www.malcolmx.com/biography/Dame Sarah Mulally: https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/about/sarah-mullallyLadyfingers: https://baranbakery.com/savoiardi-biscuits-homemade-lady-fingers/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 186: What's Happening In Iran? With Zartosht Soltani
The Dorx try to understand recent events in the Area Formerly Known As Persia by interrogating animator-cartoonist-painter-comic book creator Zartosht Soltani, who grew up there before moving to New York City. What’s causing the uprisings? What outcomes are possible? What’s it like being jailed in Iran? Zartosht has personal experience with the latter, which he’s channeled into his new comic book DEEV. He also observes that America is becoming more like his former country in alarming ways. Plus: useful vs useless idiots, American vs Iranian communists, “only 3,000,” extremist families, nepotism, learning English in bars, and liberation through painting.Links:Zartosht Soltani: https://www.zartoshtsoltani.com/Deev comic: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FKQV4438Useful Idiots: https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/comments/1q3lnko/iranian_students_celebrate_the_victory_of_the/Rita Panahi savages Whoopee GoldbergJo Freeman essay on trashing: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 185: GO BILLS!
Hanukkah is over, but we still have plenty to say about candles, miracles, and commemorating atrocities. We offer our respective reviews of 2025, and Cori talks more about his joylessness, depression, and identifying with “victim groups.” Nina reports progress on her SSDI Blue Book playing card illustrations, including a transgender Jack (“LadyJack”) and Queen Prostate Cancer. Is Down Syndrome progressive? Does Cori “feel Jewish” yet? What should we watch on TV? Do we have any listeners left? Whatever the question, the answer is increasingly: GO BILLS!Links:True Blue Lou sung by Annette Hanshaw:Bondi Beach Hanukkah massacre: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqjg22rey0loChuck Schumer: Go Bills!Rob Reiner murder: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/12/23/rob-reiner-wife-michele-death-certificates-memorial-service/87899544007/The 12 Days of Christmas: https://www.almanac.com/what-are-12-days-christmasSF Hillel arson: https://sfdistrictattorney.org/man-charged-with-arson-in-connection-to-fire-at-san-francisco-hillel/Jewish men attacked on NYC subwayCori’s pic on X in front of a giant menorah:Nina’s 2025 Year In review: https://ninapaley.com/2025/12/19/my-2025-year-in-review/Nina’s SSDI Blue Book illustrations - Queens: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B1W5HfREevhkTfdyt6& Jacks: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B1HQIvEmaTyLQwrNJIPluribus: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22202452/House of Lies: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797404/?ref_=fn_t_1Severance: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/?ref_=fn_t_1Naked Gun: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3402138/?ref_=fn_t_1PHQ9: https://share.google/PO5J3OAtPMRCLGKVJ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 184: Alcophobia, or “Oh God Not This Again”
After learning about Nina’s inability to whistle and Cori’s interest in Sharia Enthusiast meetups, the Dorx return to the tired old subjects of gender and online drama. That stupid blue dress comes up again, while a cancellation mob forms on “our side”, at least as bad as the old cancellation mobs on “their side” that got “us” here in the first place. Will it ever end? (No.) How do you say ‘b******t’ in French? (‘Connerie,’ according to Google Translate.) What is the #1 most common stupid mistake young people make? (Tell us in the comments!) Plus: incinerated balls, personality-disordered cliques, shopping at Aldi, the virtue of self-awareness, and George & Ira Gershwin. Fascinatin’!Links:Nina juggles Cori’s phantom balls: https://x.com/ayeshadequeiroz/status/1995916753050988751Phil Illy at the Genspect conference: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgateNina’s Mimi & Eunice comic strip repost: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1995499736955261412Sex is Real, People are Weird: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terf-tranny-alliance-pin/Cori calls out callouts: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1995729240877080773Our Brianna Wu episodes: https://heterodorx.com/podcast/episodes-134-135-is-brianna-wu-based/The Art Coop (potential site of TERF-n-TrannyCon): https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.htmlThe music of George & Ira GershwinFascinating Rhythm Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 183: Podcasting from Purgatory
Cori is acutely depressed, so we discuss his inner world, psychic bodies, primal wounds, and spiritual maladies. We also answer some Listener Questions: is it OK to be tired of TERFing? What are our favorite cat memories? What is Cori’s latest forecast for the future? It’s a far cry from our energetic gender days, but we’re still surviving, which is sometimes the best we can hope for.Links:Cori interviews Nina when she was depressed: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-164-ninas-brain-breaks-itselfTish Hyman at Minnesota prison protest: https://x.com/listen2tish/status/1990310036703478079Wieiner vs Hyman:Erin Reed, LOLcow: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/erin-reed-anthony-reed-ii-erininthemorn-erininthemorning-erininthenight-_supernovasky_-beholderseye-realitybias-anonymousrabbit.112364/page-888#post-22970899Sita Sings the Blues: https://sitasingstheblues.com/watch.htmlSeder Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/Nina’s SSDI Blue Book illustrations-in-progress: https://ninapaley.com/2025/11/28/ssdi-blue-book-cards-in-progress/This Land Is Mine:Nina’s store: https://store.ninapaley.com/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 182: Hayek's Road To Serfdom
You begged us to stop talking about gender, and start talking about economics. So by popular demand we just made up, the Dorx discuss F.A. Hayek’s The Road To Serfdom for an hour. Collectivism! Individualism! Planned economies! Marx! Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism! Power! Competition! If that doesn’t thrill you or make you fall asleep, we also mention fleas and liquid crystals.Although we answer your not-actually-existent pleas to talk economics, we failed to answer your Listener Questions. Next time, my little turtledoves! Feel free to leave more in the comments.Links:The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.46585Condensed Reader’s Digest version: https://cdn.mises.org/Road%20to%20serfdom.pdfF.A. Hayek: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Hayek.html Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 181: College Republicans and Chloe Cole
Cori enters the ranks of the Truly Old by discussing his fascinating medical problems, including depression, vasovagal response, blood tests, and his severely impaired endocrine system. Nina attends a Chloe Cole talk hosted by ISU College Republicans and hears chants for free hormones outside and Christian prayers inside. Is finding Jesus really the solution? Is Cori depressed, or supernatural? Will our podcasts be retarded forever? Plus: Low-Dose Naltrexone, Nina’s body temperature, Christian Nationalism, and KITTENS!Links:Chloe Cole ISU talk:https://www.videtteonline.com/news/campus/illinois-state-university-college-republicans-host-anti-trans-activist-chloe-cole/article_a2391090-fb6d-4ee2-ad01-97f942a062ed.htmlBen Appel — Cis White Gay: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cis-White-Gay/Ben-Appel/9781637586280Young Republicans leaked chat: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146Our interview with Katie Herzog: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-176-katie-herzog-drinks-herHerzog’s Drink Your Way Sober: https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 180: Fresh Convert vs Tired Agnostic
Recorded during the High Holy Days, after catching up on sensitivity, innocence, hard surfaces, insect bites, and fasting, Cori attempts to school Nina in who is and is not “really Jewish,” obnoxious as only a fresh convert can be. So we get into a long-winded discussion about faith, culture, foundational literature, the Torah, contradictions, G*d’s face vs backside, the Ramayana, and more. Finally we circle back to Genspect’s 2025 conference and how tired Nina is of manipulating people through empathy. Was Nina’s father a Jew? Are atheists really shallow? Why is Cori suddenly trying to be “Good”? And to whom is he referring when he mentions animal control and getting arrested? That’s at least one mystery that won’t be revealed in this vaguecast.Links:Greta Thunburg forced to sit on hard surfaces: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/04/greta-thunberg-israel-gaza-swedenBook of Job: https://www.amazon.com/Job-Translation-Edward-L-Greenstein/dp/0300162340Many Ramayanas: https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.5973087Dennis Praeger debate clip: https://x.com/WyattCatarina/status/1974632909777838560Cori’s pinned tweet: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1947895012253175984On the subject of the Ramayana, here’s Nina’s feature film based on it: https://sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html…and her second film about Exodus and the Torah: https://sedermasochism.com/download/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 179: Cancel Culture Club
In this weeks-late release (blame Mr. Flounce) we ask: Is it ever a good idea to fire someone for saying crazy, wrong, and/or threatening things in public? Nina would like to always say no, but even she admits that in some occupations, such as medical care, stating you want certain ethnic groups to die is grounds for dismissal. But most canceling is motivated by a lust for revenge, not safety, despite protestations of “accountability” and “consequences”. We also discuss a very bad spider bite, distracting kittens, taglines, Groypers, Jimmy Kimmel, misinformation, moral outrage, Schadenfreude, gay vs homosexual vs queer, and Hey Zeus!Links:Little Britain “I’m a Laydee!”: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qahpmDid Jimmy Kimmel fire his announcer for not getting a covid vaccine? https://www.facebook.com/terrencekwilliams/posts/jimmy-kimmel-fired-dicky-barrett-after-almost-20-years-of-announcing-the-show-be/1403479137804487/Nick Fuentes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_FuentesLog Cabin Republicans: https://logcabin.org/GOProud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOProudCori calls Nina’s cats gay on X: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1960836018359427549Nina’s wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_PaleyStop Antisemitism X account: https://x.com/StopAntisemitesAccused Rapist Shot by Alleged Victim: https://fox59.com/news/accused-rapist-shot-by-alleged-victim-and-arrested-an-hour-later-in-speedway/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 178: Charlie Kirk and 9-11
The Dorx record the day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which happens to be the 24th anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks. We reminisce about 9-11-01: where we were, how we felt, how we’ve changed since. Then we discuss the current climate of political violence, comparing the reaction to Kirk’s death to that of George Floyd’s. Then Cori edits out 18 minutes about people denouncing him online, because it’s Rosh Hashanah and why carry resentments into the new year? So suddenly you’ll hear both of us talking about kittens. Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 177: Hey Kids! Don't Shoot Schools OR Drugs
The Dorx discuss Robin/Robert Westman, the psychotic Minneapolis Catholic school shooter. Was he left-wing or right-wing? Does trans ideology cause psychosis, or is it just coincidental? What is the difference between racism and white nationalism? Do women owe the world reproductive labor? What might happen to Cori as the political wrecking-ball pendulum keeps swinging rightward? Was the Unicorn Ranch llamas or alpacas? Plus: Cori insists trannies are a class but TERFs are not, because he doesn’t get intersectionality. Why didn’t we just talk about kittens?Links:Robert/Robin Westman: https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/robert-westman-trans-name-change-manifesto-mary-family-bfhps6kkfWestman’s Manifesto transcription: https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1961085415445660009Westman journal excerpt about racism, Native Americans: https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1961149304053125196Matt Walsh says women owe children to the world: https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1951280351784907005Christopher Rufo: “we should now put to rest the libertarian delusion…” https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1960769904258469938Free Press: Robin Westman and the Rise of American Nihilism: https://www.thefp.com/p/robin-westman-and-the-rise-of-american-nihilism-minneapolis-shootingUnicorn Ranch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_Unicorn_RanchAgents of HAG & Compliance Comix: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/compliance-comix/Protect Trans Kids weapons tshirt: https://www.amazon.com/Protect-Trans-Knife-Pride-T-Shirt/dp/B0BZBHJ4TQconfirmation bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_biasAndrea James website: https://www.transgendermap.com/Knife-wielding Scottish lassWDI Convention: https://womensdeclarationusa.com/wdi-usa-2025-national-convention/The Naked Gun: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3402138/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Episode 176: Katie Herzog Drinks Her Way Sober
You may recognize Katie Herzog’s journalism and podcasting, but did you also know she’s soon-to-be famous for her alcoholism? For years she hid it from the world and her exceptionally gullible wife, but now she tells all in a new book which even longtime twelve-stepper Nina finds persuasive. Can you quit booze while happily retaining your character defects? What is Naltrexone? Does everyone get a “buzz” from drinking? Does Nina get pleasure from anything? Plus: amusing recollections of drunken episodes and blackouts, getting older and more isolated, extinguishing desires, AA vs. Al-Anon, Kokomo, Kokomo, why you should never apologize, and tips on how to hide both drinking and smoking from your spouse!Links:Drink Your Way Sober by Katie Herzog: https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/The Sinclair Method: https://www.sinclairmethod.org/what-is-the-sinclair-method-2/Syn-Anon documentary: https://www.hbomax.com/shows/synanon-fix/a27b5e0a-68eb-48e2-baa6-2b0f01d5b8be Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe