Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive

The All Blacks are opening the Rugby Championship this Saturday evening. They’re facing off against Argentina in Wellington’s Sky Stadium, and there are still tickets available. Sportstalk Host D’Arcy Waldegrave told Heather du Plessis-Allan there’s probably a couple of reasons behind this. He said that one factor could be that no one has the money for tickets, another could be the lack of build-up and promotion, or it could be that people don’t care about a match against Argentina. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Warnings that price hikes for international visas could chill the workforce. The Government is increasing costs across almost all categories from October to bring in an extra $536 million over four years. The cost for a skilled residence visa will rise by over $2000, and work visas are more than doubling in price. New Zealand Association for Migration and Investment chair Arunima Dhingra told Heather du Plessis-Allan this will put some people off. She says students will come no matter what because of the benefits, but migrants like tilers and carpenters with no residency pathways won't even bother. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The UK is still rife with unrest, over a week since the fatal stabbing of three girls in a Southport dance class. Far-right protests were sparked from a wave of false messaging online that wrongly identified the suspected killer as an Islamic migrant. UK correspondent Enda Brady explains the latest developments. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After a turbulent week for financial markets - have things bounced back? Japan's stocks have rebounded after their crash, but there's mixed results from around the rest of the world. Sam Dickie from Fisher Funds explains further. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A veteran Scottish shearer who is the only woman to qualify in the top 30 at the Golden Shears in Masterton has shattered a world record set by New Zealander Sacha Bond just six months ago. Shearing at Trefranck Farm in Cornwall, 51-year-old Una Cameron was chasing Bond’s solo women’s nine-hour strong wool ewes record of 458 and finished at 4am today (New Zealand time), with a new record of 517. The Country's Jamie Mackay explains further. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

ASB has made a surprise call ahead of next week's OCR announcement. The bank is predicting the Reserve Bank will cut rates in the coming days - a sooner timeframe than initially predicted. NZ Herald business editor at large Liam Dann explains whether or not ASB makes a good case. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Thursday, 8 August 2024, the Aratere Interislander ferry has crashed again! Minister Simeon Brown was wearing all the hats today - talking to Heather about the crash, our energy crisis and how councils will be able to pay for their water infrastructure in future. Heather reckons Paul Goldsmith made a mistake editing out Maori greetings and words from a letter to his Australian counterpart because it makes the Government look anti-Maori. The Huddle debates whether aspiring primary school teachers should have to pass maths NCEA Level 2 to qualify.And in business - can Allbirds make cool shoes again and turn its business around? Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tonight on The Huddle, Ali Jones from Red PR and Matt Heath from Radio Hauraki joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more! The Interislander's Aratere is in hot water again after hitting a ramp docking in Wellington this afternoon. What's really going on here? The Government is requiring new teacher trainees to pass NCEA Level Two maths going forward. Are these measures fair? Do we need our teachers to be better educated? The Australians have responded well to Luxon making a joke at their expense - but the issue of Minister Paul Goldsmith removing Māori language from a Matariki invitation. What do we make of this? A group of Wellington Council members raised eyebrows after they walked out of a contentious meeting - do we agree with this choice? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's bad news for a former darling of the footwear world. Kiwi shoe company Allbirds, co-founded by former All White Tim Brown, has posted a net loss of $19 million for the second quarter of 2024. Greg Smith from Devon Funds says the company runs the risk of being de-listed from the Nasdaq. "The valuation of the company was over $4 billion, the year before, they'd made over $200 million in sales. Fast forward four years, they're still at $200 million - the cool factor dissipated." LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Three Wellington City Councillors walked out of a meeting this afternoon - around contentious roadworks on Thorndon Quay. The council agreed to reduce building raised pedestrian crossings from five, to two. But Councillor Ben McNulty refused to vote, saying he was uncomfortable playing the role of a transport engineer. He left the room as well as Nurreddin Abdurahman and Diane Calvert. Calvert says they didn't have enough information to make a decision, and she doesn't support any raised crossings. "We wanted to wait a couple of weeks until we could get that information - that was rejected." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's concerns from experts that new teacher training requirements will exacerbate workforce shortages. The Government's action plan includes teacher trainees needing to have achieved NCEA Level Two maths. Teacher Education Forum executive chair, Rosina Merry, says many enter the profession well after leaving school. She says the sector isn't against the Government working with the Teaching Council to increase entry requirements - but after some time and consultation. "We're not suggesting we put it off, we're suggesting slowing it down a little bit. The pace of change for teachers - and for the sector - is huge." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Prime Minister has brushed off his faux pas yesterday, when he seemed to be taking a crack at Australians. Minister Paul Goldsmith was being questioned over removing Māori greetings from his Matariki invitation to an Australian Minister. In his defence, Chris Luxon said in his dealings with Australians, it pays to be incredibly simple. ZB political correspondent Barry Soper said the Government had bigger things to worry about on our shores. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Australian airline Qantas has slashed former CEO Alan Joyce's exit package, following a stint of costly scandals and legal cases. The $21.4m payout Joyce was due to get after leaving the company last year will be cut by $9.26m, the company told investors. Australian correspondent Murray Olds says this follows a rough business period for the airline. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Energy Minister says rising power costs are because of low supply. Heavy business users have warned spiking prices threaten their viability - including timber mills facing possible closure. The Electricity Authority and Commerce Commission has been asked to look at whether power companies are price gouging. The Government is also looking to import more liquefied natural gas. Simeon Brown says the last Government's ban on gas exploration was detrimental. "The key thing is that we have a shortage of energy - and that is what is driving this situation." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kiwi Kayakers Max Brown and Grant Clancy are coping well with the controversy of them competing in the canoeing pair event at the Olympic Games. The duo finished distant last in their heat and quarterfinal in Paris after they were forced to compete in the kneel-down canoeing C2 500 - which was qualified so they could compete in the K4 500 event. Sportstalk host D'Arcy Waldegrave explains further. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Children's Minister has set out five new reporting instructions for Oranga Tamariki going forward. How the ministry is performing across these new criteria will be publicly reported every quarter starting from the 2024/2025 financial year. These include frequency of visits to children in care, timeliness around Reports of Concern, caregiver reports, complaint management and addressing youth offending. Minister Karen Chhour says data from the Independent Children's Monitor says the ministry has failed to meet these standards. "I'm going to make sure we get these quarterly reports, so we can see it in real time and actually make sure we're improving things." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Inevitably, the Aussies have picked up on the slur from Chris Luxon, where he said when talking to Aussies - it pays to be ‘incredibly simple’. And they seem to be largely taking in the spirit it’s intended, which is just a bit of humour. And it also means Luxon’s play worked. Which is - by having a crack at the Aussies to distract us from the actual issue, which is Paul Goldsmith taking Māori words out of the Matariki invitation.Look, let’s get to the heart of this, this was a dumb thing for Paul Goldsmith to do. Yeah, I get he might want an invitation from him to be authentic to him and if he doesn’t make a habit of going around using Māori words in a tokenistic fashion to show off his inclusivity credentials, then sure, he might want to take out the Te Reo and replace it with English - fair enough.But Paul Goldsmith is going have start being a little bit smarter and strategic about this, because this Government doesn’t need a petty issue like this on race relations to deal with. It has got enough going on as it is. A lot of what the Government's doing on race relations is worthy and does need to be done. Repealing the Māori wards, tidying up the Treaty Principles, halting co-governance, putting an end to certain ethnicities getting priority surgery - and they can defend that stuff quite easily on democratic and equal rights grounds.But when Paul Goldsmith does something like taking Māori words out of an invitation - although it may be true to his way of speaking - what he does is he makes this democratic and equal rights reset just look like an anti Māori thing for some people. Now to be fair to him, he’s not the only minister who’s been caught fighting petty battles like this, he's just the latest.But it would pay for these guys the next time they want to take Māori words out of a document to really think about whether that, if leaked, is something they want to add to the Government's race relations agenda. Because there is a very fine line between appearing to be for equal rights and appearing to be just anti-everything Māori. And frankly, there are much more important things going on in this country right now. An energy crisis, a possible recession, a massive problem in health - just to name a few. But what are we going to remember about this week? Paul Goldsmith’s invitation. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

UK police believe there are at least 30 potential far right gatherings planned tonight. So far in the week’s unrest, 400 arrests have been made and around 100 people have been charged in connection with the disorder brought about by the riots. Nearly 6,000 public order officers are being mobilised. UK correspondent Gavin Grey explains further. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rideshare giant Uber has reported its second quarter result - and shares were up +11 percent. CEO Dara Khosrowshahi says the company is in a position to keep growing, despite an uncertain macroeconomic outlook and decreased consumer spending. Milford Asset Management's Deborah Lambie unpacks these results. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Around 40,000 McDonald’s staff are likely to be compensated, as the fast-food chain corrects a widespread payroll issue dating back 15 years. McDonald’s is contacting those employed between November 1, 2009, and December 6, 2020, asking them to check a portal on its website to see if they’re eligible for reimbursement. The company is one of countless employers, including government departments, that miscalculated leave entitlements outlined in what’s proven to be a very confusing Holidays Act 2003. NZ Herald Wellington business editor Jenee Tibshraeny explains who stands to benefit from this. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's belief a major Auckland pulp mill proposing closure could be the first of many. Oji Fibre Solutions is consulting with its 75 Penrose staff, citing a three-year pattern of losses. CEO Jon Ryder says dramatically rising energy costs are one of several issues plaguing the mill. E tū Union negotiation specialist Joe Gallagher says the Government needs to step in and set up some regulations. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Debbie Ngarewa-Packer has raised a few eyebrows following her controversial comments in the House. She's accused the ACT Party of grooming the Prime Minister and the Government into exercising 'ethnocide' on Māori culture. ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper has labelled these accusations as hate speech. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Wednesday, 7 August 2024, the Polkinghorne trial has turned to Philip Polkinghorne's relationships with sex workers today. The unemployment rate rose to 4.6% today. Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr says it's slightly better than predicted but he still thinks a cut to the OCR next week is warranted. The Chief Ombudsman has named and shamed St Peter's College in Auckland as one of the schools that have refused to follow his recommendations after excluding a student who had bought and smoked cannabis. But the school's principal defends the decision not to apologise to the student for being tough on drug use. The Huddle discusses councillors facing threats for taking a stance on the Maori wards issue. Plus was it smart or embarrassing to send a team to the C2 canoe racing when they had zero experience? Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tonight on The Huddle, Jordan Williams from the Taxpayer's Union and Jack Tame from ZB's Saturday Mornings and Q&A joined in on a discussion about the following issue of the day - and more! Councillor Murray Chong has spoken up about feeling threatened after he found a bullet dent in his ute ahead of the Māori ward vote. How appalling is this? Are we being too hard on our C2 500 crew after their Olympic performance? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wellington Council is hoping to force the redevelopment of the the infamous Johnsonville Shopping Centre after years of inaction. It's been two decades since the mall was refurbished - and several high-profile retailers have abandoned the premises. Wellington Councillor Ben McNulty says there's plenty of options to force change along. "My view is - if they're not going to use it, they might as well lose it, and someone else who can actually do the work and has the expertise needs to come in." LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

New Plymouth's mayor says threats against councillors aren't uncommon. Councillor Murray Chong abstained from voting on Māori wards yesterday - saying he was fearful after finding a bullet dent in his ute. Legislation passed last week to let councils get rid of their Māori wards. New Plymouth has voted to retain theirs, but Kaipara District Council today become the first to scrap theirs. New Plymouth mayor, Neil Holdom, says they get threats on a range of topics. "People used to write in emails and they'd express their views quite professionally and constructively - now it's just becoming increasingly aggressive." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kiwibank's Chief Economist says unemployment will rise for another year. Stats NZ figures out today show unemployment jumped to 4.6 percent in the June quarter, from 4.4 the quarter before, and 3.6 percent this time last year. Jarrod Kerr says this statistic tends to lag behind the rest of the economy, because employers keep workers as long as they can. "So we think the unemployment rate keeps lifting for the rest of this year and into next - and it'll end up around 5.2-5.3 percent." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A court has heard Phillip Polkinghorne's police interview on day eight of his trial. The Auckland eye doctor is accused of murdering his wife, Pauline Hanna, in 2021. He maintains she killed herself. Polkinghorne's dealings with other woman have been detailed today, both at a North Shore apartment in 2019, and a Mount Cook retreat in the weeks after Hanna's death. NewstalkZB's Chelsea Daniels says Polkinghorne jumped from topic to topic in the police interview. "Detailing things like the couple's beach house, an argument they'd had about staining, an episode of New Amsterdam they'd watched the night before." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Canoe Racing New Zealand are defending a situation which has drawn the ire of some fans at the Paris Olympics. The crew finished significantly later than all the other boats - coming in dead last by 45.31 seconds in the quarterfinal stage. Canoe Racing NZ chair Greg Adlam says the team did what they could in a difficult boat. "It's one thing for kayakers to get into a canoe boat and to paddle it, it's another one to actually lay down power on the course. That's the phase we're at now." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris has found her running mate - bringing out Governor Tim Walz at a Philadelphia rally. Walz addressed a cheering crowd for the first time as Vice Presidential nominee. Harris says Walz shines a light on a brighter future they can build together. US correspondent Dan Mitchinson says the pair had a one-on-one meeting over the weekend - and just clicked. "She liked a lot of what he brought, liked the fact that he's been going after Trump - and thinks that he will help her cross the Midwest." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Canoe Racing New Zealand is defending a pragmatic decision in their Olympic qualification process. Kayakers Max Brown and Grant Clancy have been forced to compete in the kneel-down canoeing C2 500 - a boat which was qualified so they could compete in the sit-down K4 500 event. The pair have finished 45 seconds behind the winner of their Paris Games quarter-final, because they didn't want to expend too much energy. Sportstalk host D'Arcy Waldegrave explains further. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Chief Ombudsman is urging school boards to take accountability for decisions. Peter Boshier has made his case notes public relating to his recommendations not being followed - by the boards of Auckland's St Peter's College and Christchurch's Cashmere High School. St Peter's refused to apologise for excluding a student for buying and smoking marijuana - and Cashmere didn't apologise or take steps after declining an out-of-zone enrolment without explanation. Boshier says the schools should have apologised for the inadequacies in their responses. "We recommended that these students' disciplinary records be amended and have nothing attached to it - and then we said the board, when it's doing a decision like this, should have a clear process." St Peters principal James Bentley has refused to apologise. "Marijuana buying and using is an illegal activity - we hold the view, as many schools do, that this has no place in our schools. We'd hoped the Ombudsman would have supported us on this, but unfortunately he took a different approach." LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer has hit back at Elon Musk over claims that a 'civil war' may break out in the UK. On a video of rioters setting off fireworks at police, Musk commented that civil war was 'inevitable'. UK correspondent Vincent McAviney says Starmer and his team have been working to get a grip on the riots - and social media responses. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Australia's Reserve Bank has taken on a grim tone with today's OCR update - and warned rate cuts aren't on the horizon. The Bank considered hiking rates today, but moved to keep them in place at 4.35 percent. HSBC chief economist Paul Bloxham says inflation is still running too far above expectations. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Three major New Zealand banks have slashed their rates ahead of next week's OCR review. Both Kiwibank and BNZ have urged the Reserve Bank to cut the cash rate down - months ahead of predicted forecasts. Infometrics Principal Economist Brad Olsen explains why there's a case for the Reserve Bank to move quicker. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Tuesday, 6 August 2024, Health NZ's Richard Sullivan explains the u-turn to give some cancer patients early access to Keytruda treatments after all. Smith & Caughey's chairman Tony Caughey explains the decision to keep the business going after he thought he would have to close just a few months ago (and his hot take on interest rates). There's a warning that Kiwi kids who spend too much time on screens are displaying behaviour that mimics the symptoms of ADHD. The Huddle debates whether PM Chris Luxon is right when he says we might have to teach less arts and music and teach more maths. Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's another crucial Global Dairy Trade auction taking place tonight as a new season kicks into gear. Rabobank analyst Emma Higgins has predicted WMP and SMP will move lower overnight. The Country's Jamie Mackay explains further. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tonight on The Huddle, Kiwiblog writer and Curia pollster David Farrar and Toby Manhire from The Spinoff joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more! Prime Minister caught a bit of backlash after suggesting schools might have to defer arts and music to focus on teaching more maths. Do we agree with Luxon? Health NZ has done a u-turn on Keytruda - allowing some cancer patients to get early access. Was this the right call? Winstone's pulp and timber mills have seen their power bills jump by 600 percent and are closing their mills for a couple of weeks because it's too expensive to keep going. Should the Government intervene? New research shows children who spend too much time on their screens display behaviours that mimic ADHD. How can we manage this? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Associate Energy Minister Shane Jones is calling the possibility two mills could close - 'hideous' - with the loss of 300 jobs. Winstone's says ballooning energy bills could force the Ohakune pulp and timber mills to shut. Jones is urging the energy companies to offer these industrial players a deal to keep them going. "My problem is - if they don't start to engage and actually look after New Zealand firms and New Zealand employers, then I fear for the industrialisation." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Historic Auckland department store Smith & Caughey’s is living to fight another day. The 144 year old business announced in May it would close next year - but today revealed measures to let it stay open. It will downsize physical trading to the ground floor of its Queen Street store, cut about 100 staff and close the Newmarket branch, and ramp up online operations. Chair Tony Caughey says the reality is fewer people shop in the city and they must adapt. "There'll be different ways of doing things - and I think it will evolve. We won't see the old days of how it was, but we'll see a new, different sort of Queen Street." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Business owners in Wellington’s Courtenay Place hope to boost the area's image with a New Year’s Eve street festival. 35 businesses have come together to pitch an outdoor event offering food, drinks and entertainment - and all they need is approval from the council. Courtenay Place business owner Greig Wilson says they're putting extra pressure on the council to ensure it gets approved on time. "It's a model that's worked really well in the past, with Sevens parties and Lord of the Rings premieres." LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Japanese market is clawing its way back, after an epic tumble overnight. Its Nikkei had a historic one-day drop - the first in a volatile chain of global financial markets. It's now starting to stabilise, sitting about nine percent up on yesterday. Matt Goodson from Salt Funds Management says Japan's weakness began a couple of days ago, when the central bank hiked up cash rates. "The Japanese market had been pretty strong all year, the yen had been really weak - and that just turned everything around, the market fell hard, the yen really strengthened." LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Health New Zealand has explained a U-turn to give a small group of cancer patients early access to Keytruda treatment. It had earlier said it would wait to offer patients the drug, until Pharmac funding started in October. Chief Clinical Officer Richard Sullivan says up to 30 people can get the drug this month. "After reaching out to our clinical colleagues in our cancer centres, recognising the number of patients we could bring in early under this access program - is a small number we felt the system could do." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Speaker Gerry Brownlee is warning MPs against bad behaviour after last week's drama in the House. ACT clashed with the Speaker over wearing party-logo pins, and the Children's Minister broke down in tears, feeling bullied - and her leader later criticised the Speaker. ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says today's session was much more orderly. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Australian Reserve Bank has moved to leave rates on hold at 4.35 percent. Figures from the June quarter showed inflation has stayed in line with market expectations - but the bank is holding on before making bigger moves. Australian correspondent Murray Olds says Australians are still on edge, as a cut is unlikely to happen until early 2025. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Warriors star Shaun Johnson has announced his retirement after 14 years are the top level. The halfback will conclude his NRL and international career after the Warriors' final four games of the season. Sportstalk host D'Arcy Waldegrave explains further. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One neuroscience expert claims Kiwi kids who spend too much time on their devices have developed behaviours that mimic ADHD. This comes as teachers are forced to adapt their teaching methods as children display behavioural issues as a result of excess screentime. Educational psychologist and neuroscience trainer Kathryn Berkett says these kids are unable to concentrate or sit still - which are behaviours experts use to diagnose ADHD. "We're never letting our kids spend time without external stimulation into their brains." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Monday, 5 August 2024, terrorism expert Greg Barton speaks with Heather after Australia raised its threat level , saying an attack is "probable". Finance Minister Nicola Willis on her plans to make Kiwibank more competitive - will she sell parts of it to raise more capital? Cancer advocates are upset that Health NZ has declined a drug company's offer of free treatment for cancer sufferers. Act leader David Seymour responds to John Key's plea to lower the temperature on race relations. Plus the Huddle debates whether the BBC should be removing old footage that includes disgraced ex-presenter Huw Edwards. Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nicola Willis appears intent on making Kiwibank a bigger player in the banking sector The Finance Minister told the National Party's annual conference yesterday she wants to look into privatising the New Zealand-owned bank. It comes only a couple of years after the previous Government secured complete state ownership for 2.1 billion dollars. Willis told Heather du Plessis-Allan she's not proposing selling off the Government's share - she just wants to add to it with new capital. She says the motivation isn't about getting more cash out of Kiwibank - it's about growing it by having other people putting cash in. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Act's leader's standing by his controversial Treaty Principles Bill, under criticism from Sir John Key. At National's conference in the weekend, the former Prime Minister said the temperature should be turned down on race relations. He suggested the Bill isn't workable, because the principles of Te Tiriti change over time. David Seymour told Heather du Plessis-Allan problems need open discussion. He says the Bill is about what the founding document really means, and will find out how to make New Zealand a place for all. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.