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Episode 139-And the Winner is…. Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 139 SUMMARY KEYWORDS brass, murphy, gun, tramp stamp, stamp, law, suggestions, new jersey, carry, permit, submission, face, rights, firearms, state, book, interesting, evan, battling, casing SPEAKERS Speaker 3, Evan Nappen Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well, we’re going to have some fun today because we’re going to look at the submissions to the Murphy Tramp Stamp Contest. And you guys, you listeners are just awesome. You sent in some fantastic, just spectacular submissions. We’re going to read the best ones, and then I arbitrarily I’m going to pick one. But, you know, I want to see the one that would be most likely to be the one that I would actually have on my microstamp gun, if I ever was to even think about getting a gun that does microstamping. Evan Nappen 00:59 But before we get to all that fun stuff, I do want to just give you an update over the recent, within the last few days, Federal Court of Appeals, what they did with regard to the Murphy Carry Killer, anti-Civil Rights bill. It is somewhat of a setback. But it’s nothing to be too disappointed about, because there’s some positive. This is a continuing fight, a continuing battle. So, what happened was on the 20th of June, the Federal Appeals Court temporarily reinstated some parts of the Murphy Carry Killer, anti-Civil Rights bill. The reinstatements occurred to the injunction on a number of the sensitive places. In other words, what it means is that the great Judge Bump had issued an injunction on a number of the sensitive places and a number of other provisions of the bill. By the judge enjoining those provisions, it means that they were not enforceable by the Government on permit carriers. The Federal Appeals Court, based on the State’s motion to stay, meaning stop her injunction and reinstate the prohibitions of the law, granted some of them, and I’m going to tell you in a moment what they are. Evan Nappen 02:43 Of course, New Jersey is always out to destroy our rights, and they’re fighting in the courts to keep these limitations on our gun rights in place. So, New Jersey, temporarily, won on the following issues, and these are now back as sensitive places. You need to be aware that you cannot have your licensed, legal carry gun, law-abiding citizen, none of that matters, if you are in the following sensitive places. The Appeals Court has stayed the injunction of the sensitive place that said within 100 feet of a public gathering, demonstration, or event requiring a Government permit. So, you now cannot carry at a public gathering until we win this appeal. Of course, we are aggressively fighting this appeal, especially the sponsor of our show, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. This is all still being fought. But at this time, beware of carrying your gun within 100 feet of a public gathering, demonstration, or event. Page – 2 – of 10 Evan Nappen 04:11 Zoos – you cannot carry at a zoo. That’s back. You cannot carry at a park, a beach, recreational facility or area owned or controlled by a state, county, or local government unit designated as a Gun Free Zone. That’s back. A publicly owned or leased library or museum. That’s back. A bar or restaurant where alcohol is served and any other site or facility where alcohol is sold for consumption on the premises. You can no longer carry there. Entertainment facilities, that prohibition is back. Casino and related facilities. That prohibition is back. But of course the casinos themselves united to ban guns which is why the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs called for a boycott of the New Jersey casinos. Don’t give money to anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment, anti-Civil Rights establishments, such as the casinos in New Jersey. Healthcare facilities are back, which prior you could have it at medical offices and ambulatory care. You cannot do that anymore. Evan Nappen 05:27 All of those that were enjoined, meaning made unenforceable by Judge Bump in a brilliant, and one of the most extensive opinions ever written, well over 200 pages, has temporarily been reinstated by the granting of a stay by the Federal Appeals Court. Now the appeal of the state is going to play out in the Federal Appeals Court, and the fight is continuing. This is just one battle in the war on the Carry Killer, anti-Civil Rights bill of Murphy and the Democrats. Now that is the bad news of what this appeals court did. But the good news is the injunction allowing. Remember, they prohibited having guns in a motor vehicle, even a licensed law-abiding citizen with a loaded handgun in their own motor vehicle with a permit was blocked by the Carry Killer law. We call that section of the law, the Car Jacker Protection Law that was enjoined by Judge Bump saying it cannot be enforce

Episode 138- Murphy’s Tramp Stamp Has No Ink Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 138 SUMMARY KEYWORDS rsc, gun, great, new jersey, firearm, suppressors, law, representative, cartridge, second amendment, state, carry, gun rights, 25th anniversary edition, ideas, cartridge cases, case, line, permit, conservative SPEAKERS Speaker 3, Evan Nappen Evan Nappen 00:17 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well guess what? Governor Murphy’s tramp stamp doesn’t have any ink. You may want to know what I’m talking about, and I’ll explain it. His wonderful microstamping law. That’s right. The microstamping law. An article in Politico titled “New Jersey Attorney General’s office five months behind on gun microstamping law”. (https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/13/new-jersey-microstamping-gun-law-00101537) As per Politico and as per the law, the Attorney General was assigned to investigate the viability of microstamping. This is in the law, and they had to do so within 180 days. Once this technology was deemed viable, then it would become a mandate on dealers. Evan Nappen 01:14 Let me explain microstamping as per the definition in Jersey. Here’s what it does. Under N.J.S. 2C:58-2.13, that’s the statute, “Microstamp means a unique alphanumeric or geometric code that identifies the make, model, and serial number of a firearm.” Then that is placed upon what they call the “Microstamp roster means the roster of firearms that have been designated as microstamping-enabled firearms”. A “microstamping component” is the component of the firearm that will produce a microstamp on at least one location of the expanded cartridge case each time the firearm is fired. “Microstamping-enabled firearm” means a firearm that contains a microstamping component. Evan Nappen 02:14 So, the idea here is to create a gun that produces a cartridge case that has an individual identifier. Of course, many cartridge cases when they’re fired already have this. There is a whole science of forensics where they look at spent cartridge cases and can identify and match up. But really all this is is a high-tech gun registration scheme. Okay, that’s really just always what it boils down to. Registration, and here they go again. They were supposed to find this so-called viable technology. Once this was done and it was determined that this is viable, and here’s a gun that does microstamping, then every dealer in New Jersey is required to always have one of these guns for sale. And in selling them New Jersey is giving a rebate when you buy a microstamp gun, folks. Get a load of this. Ready for how much this rebate is? 30 bucks. Wow. A whole $30 for you to buy a microstamp gun. Page – 2 – of 8 Evan Nappen 03:21 Now think about this. Who wants a microstamping gun? Nobody! Nobody! What is the benefit? Do you want to make sure that your brass has your mark on it? Well, maybe if you shoot a lot at the range and you get into arguments over whose brass is whose. Maybe then it might be a way. That’s mine. Look at my microstamping. Other than that, who wants this? Who’s going to pay for a gun specifically that does this? It’s as silly as it can be. I do have a solution that I’m going to share with you in a minute. But let’s just talk more about this microstamping because it’s all fine and good that a cartridge is going to have this individual marking that gets microstamped. Just tell me what happens though when you use a revolver? A revolver. Wait a minute, all of the shell casings stay in the cylinder. Oh my. Oh my. So, good luck with that. All right, and if you’re going to make a dump of your brass, it’s just a dump to your pocket. It’s not going to fly around the ground. That’s what they’re focused on. This aspect of cartridge cases being sprinkled everywhere. But revolvers don’t do that, you see. So, I don’t know where they’re going with that. Evan Nappen 04:46 But even if you have such a firearm that has this technology, it’s so easy to destroy it with a $2 file. It no longer does microstamping now, that would be illegal though. The law does prohibit anyone destroying that microstamping component of a gun. So, you know, if some bad guy gets a microstamping gun and they’re going to commit a crime with it, they’d never take a $2 file to try to get rid of that microstamping capability. Right? Because they’re just going to obey the law on that, even though they may murder or rob or do whatever with the gun. But they’re sure not going to violate the microstamping law. So, it shows you just how amazingly effective this whole thing is going to be. It’s just a glorious waste of time. It’s something else to burden sellers with, burden gun dealers with. It is, of course, a repr

Episode 137- The Push to Repeal 2A Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 137 SUMMARY KEYWORDS second amendment, firearm, gun, new jersey, state, knife, law, repeal, constitutional convention, ban, california, put, guns, switchblade, book, newsom, governor, fighting, amendment, proposes SPEAKERS Speaker 3, Evan Nappen Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well, as I predicted not too long ago, eventually, the only solution for the anti-gun movement will be to repeal the Second Amendment. Now with the advent of the hammer of Bruen in our pocket that we can use so effectively against these gun laws and that the fight is clearly going well for us. Of course, it’s an ongoing fight. Now, you see that the antis are pushing for repeal of the Second Amendment. The way that they’re attempting to sell it was just introduced and put forward by Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California. And of course, he’s quite a leftist and not a big surprise that he’s anti-Second Amendment rights and all that. But here’s what he’s putting forward, and it’s very interesting to think of it. Because his proposed Constitutional amendment, which he’s calling the 28th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, is in effect, a repeal of the Second Amendment. Evan Nappen 01:50 Now, it’s not a total repeal of the Second Amendment, but it’s a repeal that has, well, we’re going to review it, a number of elements that will essentially have the amazing chilling effect, as I’m sure they’re intending. The fact that they’re even proposing and pushing this repeal is proof of just how scared they are, and proof of how they know that they are on a losing side when it comes to what the Second Amendment means and any ability to try to overcome the spectacular opinion written by Justice Thomas. Evan Nappen 02:35 Let’s take a look at what Governor Newsom, more like Governor Nuisance, proposes out of his office news release. What it says is “Governor Newsom proposes historic 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution to end America’s gun violence crisis.” That’s the heading of his news release. So, first of all, it’s not a gun violence crisis. It’s a criminal violence crisis. It’s a criminal violence crisis caused by leftists like Governor Newsom, who get rid of the vigorous enforcement against criminals that leads to. Well, look at San Francisco and LA and all the other great cities and places in the state of California that are under a crime wave. And of course, what does the left do? Classically, they blame guns instead of the actual reality of the policies. Evan Nappen 03:38 So, in his effort to blame guns for the failings of his office, his state and the Democrats in California, he is saying that he proposes the 28th Amendment to the Constitution to enshrine fundamental, broadly supported gun safety measures. Oh, of course, sir. It’s always gun safety when it talks about banning, and it has nothing to do with safety at all. It’s just gun bans, that they lie and call gun safety measures. Then he has the nerve to say, while leaving the Second Amendment unchanged… Well, sure. They’re not going to touch the Second Amendment. They’re just going to repeal the rights that the Second Amendment guarantees us. Evan Nappen 04:23 But the Second Amendment will be there in the Constitution. It’ll just have been eviscerated by the new amendment. Isn’t that cute? But that’s the lying kind of things that Democrats are famous for, especially Governor Newsom and respecting America’s gun owning tradition. Yeah, respecting it all right. As he gives it the finger, figuratively, and literally. The Governor’s proposal guarantees common sense constitutional… Can they put any more of their buzzword BS into this thing? Common sense. Do you want to know about common sense? Don’t do this. That’s common sense. But anyway. Evan Nappen 05:00 Gun safety that Democrats, Republicans and Independents and gunowners overwhelmingly support. Yeah, right. Yeah, right – overwhelmingly support, Including what? Universal background checks, raising the firearm purchase age to 21, instituting a firearm purchase waiting period, and banning civilian purchase of assault weapons. And there you go. We just saw polls recently where the majority of the people don’t want a ban on assault weapons. So, it’s just total crock of lies here. Evan Nappen 05:33 And what he specifically says in this news release is that the 28th Amendment will permanently enshrine four broadly supported gun safety principles. These are guns . . . Did you know these are safety principles, by the way? Think about the audacity of that lie. Here’s the safety principles, folks, that Newsom says. Raise the federal minimum age to purchase a firearm from 18 to 2

Episode 136- Largest Gun Ban in USA Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 136 SUMMARY KEYWORDS cannon, new jersey, gun, law, alerts, requirements, gun rights, firearm, secured, ammunition, privateers, biden, possess, book, promulgate, place, lawyer, gun laws, school, fight SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:16 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, today I want to tell all my dedicated listeners how to get a cannon in New Jersey. I felt that there was a pressing need for this knowledge, and I’m sure that you’ll enjoy learning about this. Now one of the things that inspired me to talk about this cannon information. First of all, of course, it’s fun and who doesn’t like cannons? Also, you may find it surprising that you can actually lawfully have a cannon in New Jersey, since we’re talking about the state that has banned slingshots and made them a felony, but cannons, it’s a different story. You can have a cannon. Now what got me going here is I was looking at some old quotes and other things because the political season is upon us. Evan Nappen 01:13 I was reminded how his fraudulency, the senile sock puppet, made a statement about cannons in which the Washington Post gave him four Pinocchio’s for his statement saying the Second Amendment bans cannon ownership. The article you can see is in the Washington Post, and I see there’s an article here by Dominick Mastrangelo, and it was back in June of ’21. (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/560513-wapost-gives-biden-four-pinocchios-for-saying-second-amendment-bans-cannon/ ) The quote here says, and this is Biden now speaking. “And I might add: The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon.” That’s what Biden says. By the way, he’s repeated that lie numerous times. So, you know, big shock Biden’s a liar, and when it comes to guns, everything that comes out of his lips is a lie, and he doesn’t care that he’s lying. You could spend an entire show on every Biden gun lie. Evan Nappen 02:30 But this one, this one in particular, is very interesting. Because not only is he wrong about “limiting” the types of people who could own a gun, which in the time of our revolution was not even a thing, but there was no limit to what you could own. In fact, historically, cannons were owned by privateers. Privateers had a use for their cannons and that’s why they had cannons. The privateers were individuals that were given what’s called the Letter of Marque from the federal government. The Letter of Marque is in our constitution to this day and that’s where essentially the government can authorize individuals to act as what you would believe to be pirates. But in fact, they’re sanctioned by the government for this. So, their piracy is legal, and they were able to then go after the ships of our enemies. And if they captured the ships, they were the “prizes”, and you could make big money, Page – 2 – of 7 capturing prizes and their cargo, etc., as a privateer. But of course, it was extremely dangerous because the other side often fought back, and there you have it. Cannons were owned by privateers who were private individuals and others that wanted to protect their homes, etc. It was not that uncommon, but for the most part, as far as any restrictions, there weren’t any. Evan Nappen 04:14 The funny thing is you can own a cannon today in New Jersey. As a matter of fact, when Biden says you can’t own a cannon, my response is, oh, really, hold my beer. And I’m not talking about Bud Light. So, let’s take a look here at how you own a cannon in New Jersey. If you’ve ever been tempted to have such a thing, they are a lot of fun. There are reenactments that can take place with your cannon. They’re great noise makers and are a lot of fun. So, first of all, how is a cannon even defined in New Jersey law? Let’s start there. What is a cannon? What’s an antique canon? Well, New Jersey’s definitions are always found in the gun laws under what’s called N.J.S. 2C:39-1. That’s where you find most of the definitions of all the things that New Jersey has decided to regulate. They define antique canon as a “destructive device”. Now a destructive device is any weapon that’s capable of firing a projectile that is greater than 60 caliber, except a shotgun, if the cannon is incapable of being discharged, if it’s an antique cannon, if it’s incapable of being discharged or fired, or for which it does not fire fixed ammunition, regardless of when it was made, or was manufactured prior to 1898 for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available, and is possessed as a curiosity or ornament, or fo

Episode 135- Largest Gun Ban in USA Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 135 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearms, gun, law, new jersey, serial number, guns, transport, black powder, manufacturer, state, federally licensed, gun ban, lawyer, gun rights, gun laws, understand, bb guns, jersey, prohibitions, sell SPEAKERS Speaker 3, Evan Nappen, Robert, Detective Walker Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Did you know that New Jersey has the largest gun ban ever in United States history? That is correct. No exaggeration. This is absolute insanity, and I’m going to explain to you how. New Jersey passed what is called the “No Serial Number”, at least that’s how we’re referring to it, the “No Serial Number” gun ban. Now this “No Serial Number” gun ban was passed in a package with half a dozen or more bills by Murphy and the Democrats. All these anti-gun laws, and they targeted what they called “Ghost Guns”, ooooooh, “Ghost Guns”. Now, we know that all the Ghost Gun is is a homemade firearm, and it’s nothing to be afraid of. Americans have been making their own guns since before our country was even a country. But there’s this anti-gun propaganda push, came up with the scary pejorative term, “Ghost Gun”, and then pass every kind of law you can think of to go after this. They are often done with broad, huge strokes, swaths of guns being banned, and that’s exactly what happened here. Evan Nappen 01:54 In this package, they went after homemade guns, making guns, manufacturing guns, 3d-printed guns, CNC (Computer Numerical Control) guns, 80 percenters. All that stuff banned, banned, banned. Serious, serious penalties. One of the other add-ons was the gun with no serial number, gun with no serial number. The problem is how they defined exactly what that gun is with no serial number. Because what New Jersey ended up doing was prohibiting the possession, the sale, the transport, the manufacturer, even the disposition, disposing of, can’t even get rid of a gun with no serial number. They defined this as two parts. For a firearm to be lawful in New Jersey, it must have these two elements. It must be imprinted with a serial number, and the serial number must be registered with a federally licensed manufacturer. So, it must be both of those things to be a lawful, not prohibited, no serial number gun in New Jersey. Evan Nappen 02:33 The problem is that there is no grandfathering, no exceptions, no exclusions. Any gun that doesn’t meet these criteria became banned and is contraband to possess. If you possess such a gun, you’re looking at five years in State Prison as a maximum punishment. If you transport the firearm, if you manufacture such a firearm, if you sell such a firearm, or if you dispose of this firearm, it’s a second degree crime. You’re looking at up to 10 years in State Prison for doing that. The definition of “firearm” is quite broad in Jersey. It’s not what normally is associated with something being a firearm. New Jersey’s definition of Page – 2 – of 10 “firearm” includes BB guns and air guns. It includes black powder firearms. It includes basically all these “guns that shoot”, and it doesn’t have to be modern cartridge firearms. Evan Nappen 04:56 For a firearm to be lawful in Jersey, it must be imprinted with a serial number and be registered with a federally licensed manufacturer. So, that serial number had to come from a federally licensed manufacturer, and here’s where the problems come in big time. First of all, there’s no exemption for pre-1968 rifles, shotguns, or handguns that don’t have serial numbers. Prior to 1968, there was no federal law that required serial numbers on firearms. Remember, the reason for a serial number originally was to be a theft deterrent, and so that you could identify your firearm by serial number to help curtail theft. That’s why the laws that existed were to stop defacing firearms. It’s where you remove a serial number that’s already been put on a gun. This was all about anti-theft. This was hijacked by the anti-gunners so that the use of a serial number would be for registration of guns and for eventual confiscation of guns. That’s how serial numbers are currently being used and abused. Evan Nappen 06:27 So, here, we have a situation where the pre-68 what are called “NSN” (No Serial Number) guns are contraband in New Jersey. There are literally millions of these firearms that never had a serial number in the first place. They’re perfectly lawful, and they were even sold by major companies. Even FFLs, whenever they would encounter a gun, would write on their inventory tag NSN which meant No Serial Number. That was fine, but it’s not fine anymore in New Jersey. All those

Episode 134-You Have Your Carry Permit… Now What? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 134 SUMMARY KEYWORDS carry, prohibition, handgun, gun, prohibited, place, firearm, permit, new jersey, law, facility, gun rights, lawyer, judge bumb, casinos, insurance, book, including, public, exemptions SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Boy, these sure are exciting times. Judge Bumb in the Federal court case released her incredible decision. I mean, it is 235 pages, and it is decisive. It is virtually a book unto itself. This really lays out her opinion so strongly. So well done. She knows that this is going to most likely go up the line, and she has really put forward an incredibly strong opinion, and an order on the preliminary injunction, which has changed a number of things, some really spectacular things. Evan Nappen 01:11 What I want to do today is go through the changes and go through what you need to know if you’re carrying a handgun in New Jersey with a Carry Permit. What is the law now? What do you need to know? Where can you carry? Where can’t you carry? A basic, fundamental, understanding of the rules that you hear from me, so that you don’t get into trouble and where we stand. Let me just say, right off, one of the most important things that the judge did was enjoined, which is stop the application of, stop the enforcement of the insurance mandate in the Carry Killer, anti-Civil Rights bill by Murphy and the Democrats. The bill, amongst a whole bunch of other things, mandated that individuals have liability insurance if they carry a gun in public. This was to take effect on July 1, and it would have been devastating. Because no such insurance is available. Nothing meets the bill because the law essentially required insurance companies to insure intentional acts, and nobody was touching it. Evan Nappen 02:44 We were heading into a disaster if the insurance requirement was not found to be unconstitutional and enjoined. I’m happy to say that that’s exactly what happened. So, we are in good shape over that being killed by the judge. No insurance mandate. Huge news. It had the potential to absolutely wreak havoc because it’s not just permit holders, those with carry permits, but anybody who carries a firearm in public needed insurance. So, even if you didn’t have a carry permit and you carried your handgun at the range to practice or you carried your handgun in your place of business that was open to the public, even though you would normally be allowed to, you would be required to have insurance even without a permit. It would have just wreaked havoc but that has been enjoined. You do not need to get liability insurance to exercise your Second Amendment rights to carry in public and defend yourself. Evan Nappen 03:59 Page – 2 – of 11 Now let’s take a look at the situation because you’re all excited now that you got your carry permit. You’re looking forward to being able to defend yourself and your loved ones. No longer be a victim, but rather a defender if you ever have to be. You’re no longer denied the most effective means to defend yourself and your loved ones. But what are the parameters that you need to know? Well, starting right away with the permit itself. Permits are good for two years, which didn’t change. So, keep that in mind. You don’t want to forget about your carry permit and have it expire. They last two years. The permit applies only to handguns carried by the actual permit holder. So, your Permit to Carry doesn’t allow your spouse to carry a gun unless your spouse has his or her own carry permit. Evan Nappen 05:00 The law does require that your firearm be carried concealed on your person. It does not authorize individuals to carry openly. New Jersey strictly has concealed carry, not open carry. The only exception to that is if there’s a brief, incidental exposure, of the handgun when you are transferring it from a holster or shifting of your body or clothing. But other than those brief incidental exposures, it needs to stay concealed. Open carry is prohibited. The application fee is still in effect at $200. Make sure when you carry that you have the proper holster. Not only does it have to be on your person concealed, but the holster has to retain the handgun. At a minimum, it has to conceal and protect the main body of the firearm. It has to maintain the firearm in a consistent and accessible position. Make sure you have a good belt rig for your firearm. You have to make sure the holster covers the trigger, and it is inaccessible. The trigger is inaccessible while the handgun is seated in the holster. You need to have a holster that conforms to this because if your holster doesn’t conform, then it’s illegal, and you can face a felony charge for not having the proper holster. So, you want t

Episode 133 Making Bart Simpson Legal Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 133 SUMMARY KEYWORDS slingshot, new jersey, law, gun, weapons, montalvo, defense, second amendment, gun rights, large capacity magazine, lawyer, prohibited, shoot, case, slung, carry, anti, heller, guns, freedom SPEAKERS Speaker 3, Evan Nappen Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, there’s now an effort underway in New Jersey to make Bart Simpson and Dennis the Menace no longer felons. That’s right! A bill was just put forward, not too long ago, right in May. I think it was May 8. To legalize slingshots in New Jersey. That’s right. Now, I have to be honest. I have mixed feelings about this. You know, I love seeing anything that makes freedom increase, that makes liberty increase, that gives us greater rights, and I don’t belittle anything that shoots. I want to have the freedom when it comes to that, and I’m sure you do, too. The only thing about legalizing slingshots in New Jersey that would bother me a little bit, but, of course, I’m for this bill, so don’t misconstrue it, is that when it comes to having to address the absurdity of New Jersey’s laws, if I’m in a state or if I’m talking to people that don’t understand guns, all I need to tell them is that New Jersey makes possession of a slingshot a felony. And they basically fall off their chair. What? That’s right. That’s how extreme. That’s the starting point. Evan Nappen 01:47 To demonstrate just how stupid New Jersey is to have slingshots, what is a felony level offense, a fourth-degree crime, currently, to unlawfully possess a slingshot in New Jersey. It bans them by name, and if you are charged with unlawful possession of a slingshot, you’re facing up to 18 months in State Prison. If you become convicted of possession of a slingshot, you lose your gun rights for the entire country because you’re now a convicted felon and are a prohibited person because you had a slingshot. How embarrassing would that be to lose your gun rights because you possessed a slingshot. So, New Jersey, by this law, has made Bart Simpson and Dennis the Menace, if they were real people, they’ve made them into Nappen 01:47 felons by their possession of a slingshot. Evan Nappen 02:51 You can watch many shows where, children’s shows, there’s even shows where they substitute in some of the kids movies, the Cowboys had slingshots instead of guns. They’re against guns, and they don’t want to show a gun. So, they have the character have a slingshot because it’s essentially something associated with children. Now, I understand slingshots can be dangerous. Many things can be dangerous. The back of my shoe, if I’m hitting you on the head, can be dangerous. All right. Page – 2 – of 8 Evan Nappen 03:27 The absurdity of slingshots is that bows and arrows are lawful. There’s no prohibition per se on a bow and arrow. Now, if you use it unlawfully, sure that’s a problem. If you possess it and use it as a weapon, as a deadly weapon, yeah, that’s a problem. But there’s no ban on bows and arrows. Yet, you can get compound bows or even crossbows, and they can fire pretty lethal arrows, broadheads, etc., and that’s fine because it’s not an issue. People aren’t robbing 7-11s with bows and arrows or slingshots, so they can’t rationalize it to a ban the way they would like to do it. So, there you are. You have a slingshot, but you can have a crossbow that fires a razor broadhead. And not that that should be prohibited. It shouldn’t be. Evan Nappen 04:27 The crossbow is fine, but not a slingshot. Come on, why is that? Why is that even prohibited? It honestly became prohibited by mistake, and that is what I was able to trace. There was an article years ago in the Star Ledger that I had worked with one of the reporters on demonstrating this. You see in the original law, what it banned, was slung shots. If you look at the statute, you’ll see it makes sense. Because the whole list of weapons that are in that prohibited category are what are known as impact weapons. There’s billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sand club, and then slingshot. What does the slingshot have to do with these other weapons that are designed to be impact weapons, that you hold in your hand and whack somebody with? Evan Nappen 05:32 So, what it actually said was slung shot, slung shot, a slung shot, but the dummies at the Office of Legislative Services or whoever, thought slung shot was a typo and changed the “u” to an “i”, and slingshots became prohibited in New Jersey instead of slung shots. A slung shot is essentially a weight at the end of a chord. Some people call it a monkey’s fist. A slung shot was used as an impact weapon and that’s what it said, original

Episode 132-Since you asked… Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 132 SUMMARY KEYWORDS new jersey, firearm, law, carry permit, machine gun, gun, written, trigger, gun rights, guns, great, sign, range, lawyer, book, question, karl, carry, state, gun owner SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Have you ever wonder how come after any atrocity committed with a gun, Democrats think the answer is take away guns from those who didn’t do it? I always wonder why that’s their knee-jerk reaction. But anyway, I’ve got some great questions that have come in from listeners. These really get me thinking about stuff. I got to say you guys are really something. You come up with some interesting questions, and I have to ponder them. So, here’s what I’d like to start off with. Evan Nappen 00:58 This is from Bill, and Bill says regarding – are slam-fire shot guns, machine guns? Hi, Evan. My question for you is: are slam-fire shot guns, like the Ithaca Model 37, machine guns in New Jersey? He talks about N.J.S. 2C:39-1.i, which defines machine gun as: “Machine gun” means any firearm, mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir, belt or other means of storing and carrying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism or instrument and fired therefrom. A machine gun also shall include, without limitation, any firearm with a trigger crank attached.” Think about that. Any firearm with a trigger crank attached. Well, I’m kind of cranky at times. What if I attach my finger to a trigger, does it . . . No, I’m just kidding. But the thing is that the trigger crank was added in by the way by Murphy, and in the adding of the trigger crank though, they specifically exempt Gatling guns, which I think is really great. Machine guns are prohibited, but Gatling guns are specifically allowed. So, if you want a Gatling gun in Jersey, you can have one. And man, some of them are really nice. Those old Gatlings are pretty cool. But anyway, I digress. Evan Nappen 02:36 So, the question with Bill here is, are slam-fire shotguns, machine guns? What he’s referring to as a slam fire are certain pump-action shotguns as he correctly identifies an Ithaca Model 37, but also the most famous would be the Winchester 1897. Those are guns where if you hold the trigger back, just like you would on a single action revolver, if you hold the trigger back and then pump the action, every time you pump, it will fire without you having to release the trigger, and then pull the trigger. So, you simply hold the trigger back and then pump away. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And it’s fun. Slam-fire shotguns if you haven’t done it. If you have a gun that allows you to do it. Page – 2 – of 8 Evan Nappen 03:35 It reminded me on slam fires of an interesting. There’s an interesting book, subversive literature. You may have heard of it. It’s The Poor Man’s James Bond. This was a book that competed with the Anarchist Cookbook. The famous Anarchist Cookbook that you should not rely upon, because a lot of the information in that book is seriously flawed. Now The Poor Man’s James Bond is actually a better book of interesting, improvised weapons and was written by a guy named Kurt Saxon. In that book by Kurt Saxon, he talks about when he took a Winchester Model 1897, and he tricked it out by putting a mag tube extension. I think it held like 10 rounds in it. Then he put this T-bar handle with a roller on the end of the bar to the pump. So, you literally would pump this “T”, it stuck out like a stent gun mag off the side of the shotgun. You would pump it, and it would roll in your hand. By holding the trigger back, you could like Ba ba ba ba ba ba. You could really rip that slam-bang action by pumping it with that roller pump mechanism that he outlines how to do in The Poor Man’s James Bond. Evan Nappen 05:07 But anyway, be that as it may, the question is, are slam-fire shotguns machine guns in New Jersey law? Now that’s something. I had not really considered. Because slam-back shotguns have been around a hell of a long time. Like I said, the Winchester Model 1897, one of the classic pump shotguns that have been around since, well, the late 1800s, was a slam fire. I have never heard of anyone prosecuted for possessing an old Winchester 97 shotgun as a machine gun. There’s only been about a million Ithaca Model 37s out there that function in the same way, and no one’s ever been prosecuted for that. So, if you technically read Jersey’s law here, yes, it appears so because of the requirement that a trigger be pressed for each shot. The trigger pressing for each shot is where we get into the argument. Evan Nappen 06:14 Now, you could argue, though, that you are

Episode 131-Evan’s New Book Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 131 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearms, new jersey, book, law, gun, guns, explain, jersey, permits, gun laws, insurance, carry permit, folks, exemptions, chapter, important, gun rights, topics, laws, lakewood SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I have a really great announcement to make. It’s something that I’m extremely excited about, and I can’t wait to share it with you. And I’m here today able to share it with you, thanks to our sponsors, which are the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, and WeShoot, which is a fantastic target range down in Lakewood, New Jersey. We’re going to talk more about our sponsors later. But let me tell you what my exciting news is. And that is, I have a new book. The new book is The New Jersey Gun Law book. My famous New Jersey Gun Law book. But it is the 25th Anniversary Edition, folks. Yep. Pretty old, I gotta say. 25th anniversary edition. Evan Nappen 01:17 It is fully and completely revised and updated and brought to complete current state of the law. We are talking about hundreds and hundreds of man hours that I put in to get all of this in one source for you, folks. Really did, because it’s a labor of love. And I mean, it really is a labor of love. This book is the Bible of New Jersey Gun Law. If you aren’t familiar with my book, it is different than any other law book you’ve ever seen. I actually take 120 of New Jersey’s toughest gun law topics, all the confusing things, and I address each topic in an FAQ, in its own FAQ format, so that you are able to understand the New Jersey gun laws. Imagine even making that statement – able to understand New Jersey gun laws. Yes, you actually are able to, by using my book, and I purposely wrote it this way. I purposely set out in my mission and my calling to teach New Jerseyans New Jersey gun law. So, they don’t become victims of New Jersey gun law. Evan Nappen 02:49 Because New Jersey gun law has been, as long as I’ve been a practicing attorney, a trap. It’s been a trap for gun owners, so they can get ensnared and then get disenfranchised of their Second Amendment rights. It’s all a giant setup. In order to be a law-abiding gun owner in Jersey, you’ve got to know these laws. You’ve got to follow and play that game. And if you don’t, the consequences are very serious because New Jersey gun laws are felony level offenses, left and right, for the dumbest stuff. I mean, where else in the country is possession of a slingshot a felony? But in New Jersey, it sure is, and the laws are a seamless web. So, if you wanted to understand New Jersey gun law on your own, and you just said, hey, let me read the law in the law book. You’re not going to know Jersey gun law from that. You’re going to need to know the cases that interpreted the law. You’re going to need to know the Attorney General and State Police opinions that may affect that law. You’re going to need to know the Page – 2 – of 11 laws in other places and in other statutes that affect the law. It’s this seamless web of law to try to understand any given topic. Evan Nappen 04:20 By the way I’ve done it, I’ve broken it down in topic by topic and can give you the understanding. Then once you have that understanding, you can read the actual laws yourself, look at the sources that I’ve identified, etc. and gain your body of knowledge from it. Let me tell you. When I first started and was a brand-new lawyer, I was asked to speak at some gun clubs about the gun laws because people wanted to know about them. So, I was at a gun club. I was actually at the Jersey Arms Collectors up in North Jersey, and it was one of their collector meetings. I was going to talk about the gun laws, and I put together a little photocopied pamphlet of just the laws themselves. Chapter 39, Chapter 58, and some other interesting laws. I put some other little things together in this other stuff that I thought was important for the meeting. I had it bound. I had to put in little, do you remember those little plastic spiral bindings? You don’t see them too much. Those plastic spirally things that go through all the little holes on the side of paper. So, I had the spiral bound things, and I got them done at the stationery store at the time. I had about 40 of these booklets that I just made up, and I went and gave the talk. Evan Nappen 06:08 I had them and I said, look, you can have these for just $5 each. It’s what they cost me to have them bound. And to do this, maybe it was four or five, whatever it was at the time. I couldn’t believe it. I sold every one of those books, and I wasn’t going there to sell books, folks. But everybody wanted one. And I said, wow, there really

Episode 130-Ignorance of the law Is a defense Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 130 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearms, new jersey, gun, state, handguns, question, law, carry, lawyer, registration, dealer, faq, acquisition, pistol, police, shoot, gun rights, case, possession, folks SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:11 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, I’ve been getting a lot of mail. A lot of emails from my beloved listeners, and a lot of them were telling me how much they appreciated the ammosexual episode, which I did enjoy. Here’s one of the many, many emails that I got a kick out of, and I’ll just share with you. This is from Reggie regarding ammosexual reveal. Hi Evan, funniest podcast ever. My father-in-law and I listened this morning and couldn’t stop laughing. We both have had ammosexual tendencies and finally felt the comfort to reveal to each other our own ammosexuality, and it was so liberating. We decided to adopt the Mozambique war flag with the AKs as our symbol and flaunt our pride as flaming ammosexuals. Best regards, Reggie. Hey, Reggie, I’m glad I could help, and I understand just how much of a relief it is to understand our tendencies and to just come to terms with them as I’ve been happy to share with you. So, thanks, man. I appreciate all the email and everybody else that wrote. It’s great. Evan Nappen 01:35 I also appreciate our sponsors, of course, which is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are the state gun rights, and NRA affiliate for New Jersey. Fighting for our rights, both in the courts and in Trenton, in the Legislature. And also, WeShoot, which is a great target range down in Lakewood. You should definitely check out WeShoot. It’s very important to make sure you go to our ranges. Ranges are critical so that we have a place to shoot, and we can train and stay sharp. We’re going to talk more about what our great sponsors do in a bit. Evan Nappen 02:16 But I have another letter here. This one is from Michael, and Michael says regarding CC permit liability. CCW permit liability insurance. Now, of course, I’ve mentioned it before, and I don’t want to be a ballbuster about it. But we don’t have a CCW. Although it does require us to be concealed in New Jersey, but it’s not a Concealed Carry Weapon. What we actually have is a PTC, a Permit to Carry, a handgun, but that’s alright. I understand. It’s kind of stuck in the ether there with our CCW stuff. I just received my CCW permit from Toms River. Where can I get the CCW permit insurance that Governor Murphy requires by June? Actually, it requires it by July 1. For a minimum of $300,000? It seems New Jersey blocks insurance companies from issuing policies. So, where can I get CCW permit liability insurance? I have no restrictions on my permit. Thank you, Mike. Page – 2 – of 10 Evan Nappen 03:18 Mike, I do appreciate the letter. It’s a good question, and the answer is you can’t. You can’t get it anywhere. Nobody has it. Nobody sells it. The reason nobody has it and nobody sells it is because insurance companies are interpreting the requirement as having to insure an intentional act. Insurance companies don’t insure for intentional acts. They insure for accidents and negligence and that kind of thing. So, until we hear of an actual policy that is approved by the Attorney General, because then we could rely on it. I’m going to tell you why if the Attorney General ever actually says this is okay. We’re going to get to why we could then rely on it. Even though it may not even meet what the statute says, but it gives his blessing, and we’d be okay. I’ll tell you about that. We’re going to get into more detail about that. But that hasn’t happened, folks. It hasn’t happened. No major insurance company, of any type, that I’m aware of, actually has a product that can be sold to meet this requirement. If they had it, it would be out there. Evan Nappen 04:24 I know that U.S. Law Shield would be happy to have members have it. I know that other folks would be advertising all over the place. I have heard that some other companies try to claim that your homeowners with an addendum, but it actually isn’t meeting the bill of what is necessary. So, until unless the Attorney General gives the thumbs up for those things, we don’t have anything available. It doesn’t exist. So, if July comes around and the litigation brought by the Association and other gun groups isn’t successful in killing the insurance requirement, then it will be a felony level offense to carry your gun with a carry permit without having the liability insurance that is unobtainable. So, it will effectively kill concealed carry in New Jersey, unless we can get that either knocked out as unconstitutional or somebody comes

Episode 129-Courts Fed-up with Carry Permits Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 129 SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun, courts, permits, smart, new jersey, carry, gun rights, handguns, judges, lawyer, carry permit, fighting, ranges, law, evan, decision, dealers, license, shoot, longer SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 My name is Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Our sponsors of the show are the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs and WeShoot, which is a great target range down in Lakewood, New Jersey. I have some interesting news to tell you. Something that I’ve seen throughout my career and always said, man, what is the biggest problem when it came to carry licensing? The biggest problem was “justifiable need”, and it was created by none other than the Courts. That’s been decades and decades of repression against our rights by this court-created test that basically no one could meet. Because it was engineered to do just that. By taking the words “justifiable need” and twisting them and torturing them into meaning so-called urgent necessity. Really? Where did that come from? And then making urgent necessity into this onerous two-part test of having to show that you need to use deadly force before you need to use deadly force and that the only answer to your problems is carrying a handgun for deadly force. So, basically, if you have just been shot and killed, you qualify for carry license in Jersey. It was just disgusting. Evan Nappen 01:56 Along comes the wonderful Bruen decision that eliminated justifiable need, that eliminated this game created by the courts. This Gambit. This bar. This block preventing us from having guns for so long. And you know, the courts never should have been involved in licensing. They never should have been involved. Because the courts are the judicial branch. Licensing is an executive function. Of course, those of us that still had civics, remember there are three branches of government. Your judicial, executive, and legislative. The court should never have been a licensing authority at all. But decades and decades ago, they said, hey, we’re going to do this, because we’ll accept doing this. We want to do this. And do you know why? Because they wanted to screw us. That’s why. They saw it as the opportunity to stop the spread of guns. We’ve got to keep guns off the street. You know, this is the mentality. Evan Nappen 03:08 Now with Bruen and the elimination of that block, and courts now had real work to do. Actually, issuing licenses that they have to now issue. And they don’t like that you see. They didn’t like that. So, they lobbied hard to the legislature with the Carry Killer, anti-Civil Rights bill, which originally was going to take judges out of the picture six months after its passage. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. They wanted it right away. As soon as it passed, they wanted to be done with carry licensing, you see. That was put in so Page – 2 – of 7 that New Jersey no longer has judges issuing carry licenses. And you know, given what a giant pile of crap the Carry Killer, anti-Civil Rights bill was, the one gold coin hiding, in it was getting rid of judges from being the issuing authority. Evan Nappen 04:04 But now we have a new directive from the courts. This directive really is just disgusting, and just so reprehensible to what we’re supposed to be about. Yet in the big picture, it’s kind of funny. Because what it says, in so many words, is that the court is fed up with issuing carry licenses. They are fed up with it. They don’t want anything to do with it anymore. Let me read you this directive here that just came out. It was dated April 3, and here’s what it says. It’s to all the Assignment Judges and the Trial Court Administrators from the New Jersey Courts. And it says, “Gun Permit Procedures – Requests to Amend Carry Permits”. https://www.njcourts.gov/sites/default/files/notices/2023/04/n230410a.pdf Evan Nappen 04:57 You see, the judges after the Bruen case, now they had to issue licenses. So, they still tried to screw around the best they could with stopping us from having carry permits that could be useful. Not all the judges. Some are pretty good and did the right thing. But others added provisions and restrictions and all kinds of stuff. They conflated the RPO requirements with gun permits and put guns listed as specific guns you were restricted to carry. You had the (Judge Joseph W.) Oxley special there where he was putting that you had to conform to N.J.S. 2C:39-6.g provisions, which only apply to exemptions. Exemptions that require you to have your gun cased and unloaded. And that’s precisely what a carry permit stops. This is precisely what a carry permit says you don’t have to do. Yet, he’s trying to impose an exemption requirement where it doesn’t belong at all. Som

Episode 128-Are You an Ammosexual? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 128 SUMMARY KEYWORDS ammo, sexual, sexuality, shoot, gun rights, firearms, gun, fighting, lawyer, anti gun, identity, evan, important, gun laws, pride, folks, people, trenton, ammosexuality SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:16 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, we have some interesting news stories that have been coming through with the teletype. Imagine that teletype. But anyway, one of them I want to talk about today that I thought was particularly interesting. It involves the Democrats switching their party in North Carolina in Charlotte. This is interesting because of what happened to this Democrat, and it actually intrigued me to talk about and share with you a very important, a very important, topic that I know you’ll all want to hear and think about. Before I go any further, let me just thank our sponsors. Our sponsors are the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are the NRA state affiliate in New Jersey for helping to make this show possible. And for our good friends at WeShoot, which is the target range and training facility down in Lakewood. WeShoot. It is weshoot usa.com for their website. We’re going to talk more about our sponsors, of course, because we love them, and they help make this show possible. Evan Nappen 01:50 They make it so I can talk to you about things such as the Charlotte Democrat. This is a NC State Rep, and her name is Tricia Cotham. Anyway, she switched parties to Republican and that gave the Republicans a supermajority in North Carolina. She did this after the vote came down removing the Jim Crow-era racist gun laws off North Carolina’s books. And what happened was, all the Republicans voted for it. The Democrats didn’t vote for it. However, what some of the Democrats did, including this Democrat, was they abstained. They didn’t vote at all. So, they didn’t show up, basically, for the vote. They didn’t vote. And by not voting, it overrode the Democrat Governor’s veto. Because you know how Democrats always want to keep the racist gun laws on the books. So, it overrode it. Other Democrats were extremely upset with her allowing the veto override and removing the Jim Crow-era gun laws from the books. Evan Nappen 03:09 Here’s where it got really interesting because she was being interviewed. This is actually an article from Fox News. (“Charlotte Democrat switched parties after being called ‘ammosexual’, critiqued for invoking Jesus Christ” by Charles Creitz, Fox News) (https://www.foxnews.com/media/charlotte-democrat-switches-parties-called-ammosexual-critiqued-invoking-jesus-christ). They’re questioning her about why did you change parties. She says, “I noticed some pretty big changes in the Democrat Party right when I got here, and it was very disturbing,” is what she said. This is right from the article. It says, she added Page – 2 – of 6 that she has the stars and stripes on her vehicle, notice she has a flag on her vehicle, and she speaks openly about her faith. Boy, can you believe that? She said, “I’ve used Jesus several times when I’ve led our chamber in House prayer.” She was told you can never trust a Democrat who wears camo. All right. And just this week, I was called an ammosexual. Well, that really grabbed me right there. She was called an ammosexual, and I’m like, an ammo sexual? What is an ammosexual? Evan Nappen 04:22 So, I decided, like everyone else, let’s just go to wiki and look up ammosexual, shall we? And what does it say? It says, “A person obsessed with owning guns; a zealous supporter of the right to bear arms.” So, what did I discover about myself? I am coming out, officially, today as an ammosexual, and I want to discuss with you ammosexuality, because it is clearly an important topic. I think there are a lot of things you need to consider about ammosexuality and that you may, in fact, be an ammosexual as well. You just don’t know it. So, we need to look at these things. Because let me tell you, coming out as an ammosexual, it takes courage today to do that, in today’s anti-gun environment, of course. Although it was used as a slur against this representative from North Carolina, it is not, of course, a slur. It’s something we need to be proud of. We have pride in our ammosexuality, and I’m sure you can understand why that’s so important. Evan Nappen 05:41 If you start to understand and see in this new light about ammosexuality, you realize that so many people are actually ammosexuals, and many of these ammosexuals are repressing their ammosexual desires. You see this particularly in the most anti-gun, the most anti-gun voices out there. Many of them are actually closet ammosexuals, and they’re closet ammosexuals becaus

Episode 127-Gun Lawyer Talks Back Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 127 SUMMARY KEYWORDS permit, firearm, new jersey, carry, gun, state, gun rights, handguns, law, guns, fighting, atf, court, requirement, issued, north carolina, nfa, check, anti, jersey SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:16 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, I’ll tell you what, folks, there’s been a lot of things in the news. I’m sure you’ve been following them. A lot of anti-gun politics, and I’m sure you feel the frustration when you hear these people talking in their absolute garbage that they’re spewing when you and I know the truth. They have no clue what they’re talking about. Let me tell you, it is ridiculous, and this is why I’m so happy to have this podcast, Gun Lawyer. Because I am able to talk to you, folks, and we’re able to vent about this and expose their lies. Very thankful to have our show sponsored by the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, which is the state NRA affiliate in New Jersey. I am also very proud to have as a sponsor, WeShoot, which is a great range in Lakewood. They are just a wonderful place, and I highly encourage my listeners to check out WeShoot. Evan Nappen 01:43 Anyway, we’ve been listening to this stuff, and it made me think a little bit about, well, some of you may recall the comedian, Jeff Foxworthy. Jeff Foxworthy used to say “you’re a redneck if blah, blah, blah”, and he’d have these great jokes. Well, I’m going to modify that a little bit. So, with apologies to Jeff Foxworthy, I say “you’re a dumbass when you say or believe that somehow banning so-called “assault weapons” will stop a mentally deranged person from committing mass murder.” And I’ll tell you what, “you’re a dumbass when you constantly are calling for gun laws that condemn small concealable deadly handguns, and then have the Justice Department put forward a new rule that makes handguns that are increased in size by way of a pistol brace, illegal under the NFA (National Firearms Act) and restricted under the NFA.” I mean, how absurd is that? Evan Nappen 03:13 And I’ll tell you what, “you’re a dumbass when you complain about Constitutional carry and claim that it’s going to be the “Wild West”. How many times have you heard them say, ‘oh my god, it’s gonna be the Wild West when 25 states have enacted constitutional carry” and none of them became the Wild West. As a matter of fact, we’re looking now at number 26, which will be Florida, because the Constitutional Carry bill passed the House and Senate, and it is on the way to Governor DeSantis’ desk. He has said that he will sign it and that will make Florida the 26th state. Therefore, a majority of states in the United States will have Constitutional Carry. That means law-abiding citizens no longer need a permission slip in the majority of America to carry a handgun concealed on their person for self-Page – 2 – of 9 defense. They no longer have to be victims, but can in fact be defenders. It is an amazing, amazing transformation into liberty. Evan Nappen 04:51 Let me tell you, that’s a rare thing these days, because there aren’t too many areas where Americans are gaining freedom. All you ever hear about is we need a new law, and their new law takes away freedom. Rarely, rarely, do we gain freedom back. Here the movement of carry, the ability to have that concealed firearm that you can carry to defend yourself, has been one of the greatest examples of the expansion of not only our right to keep and bear arms, but of just freedom. Freedom. Because it wasn’t until the early 1980s, when Florida was really the first state, modern state, to get “shall issue” carry permits. From shall issue permits and their popularity spreading throughout the states, individuals became used to and accustomed to carrying a handgun for defense. Evan Nappen 06:11 Then the next step of saying you don’t even need a permit anymore, which is how it should have been originally, has then grown in liberty. And what you see here is incrementalism working for us, not against us. Because many of our gun rights were taken away one slice at a time. This salami tactic of taking away rights. They banned this. They go after that. They cut here. They cut there. They cut, cut, cut. And before you know it, you don’t have any rights left. As much as we want to have a clean sweep and restore all our gun rights, in reality, it’s not how it works. In reality, as the carry movement demonstrates it, step by step, we gain our rights back. And what a great example to gain our carry rights back to the point of needing no permits whatsoever in the majority of America. To be able to defend ourselves and hav

Episode 126-Permit Denied! But You Can Keep Your Guns Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 126 SUMMARY KEYWORDS new jersey, firearms, gun, second amendment rights, denied, gun rights, guns, firearm, laws, lawyer, state, judge, possess, gun laws, carry permit, forfeiture, case, fighting, expungement, mu SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Louis Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:16 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So guess what, we have a new sponsor at Gun Lawyer. That’s right. In addition to the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, I’m also proud to introduce WeShoot, WeShoot, which is a fantastic shooting range in Lakewood, New Jersey. (www.weshootusa.com) They have twelve 25-yard indoor ranges. They also have training and can get you all set to get your carry permit in New Jersey. It is a really great fun range, and I’m really psyched to have WeShoot on Gun Lawyer. Evan Nappen 01:06 We have some exciting news, though, to talk about. Very exciting, and that is the new case that just came down. I’m proud to say my firm brought and won, and the case was an Appellate (Division) case that was argued by my brother, Louis Nappen, who is here today. Say, Lou, how you doing, man? Louis Nappen 01:38 Howdy, Ev. Evan Nappen 01:39 All right. I’m just getting a “howdy”? Come on. Give me something more than a howdy. Aren’t you happy to be on Gun Lawyer and talking about this great case? Louis Nappen 01:50 It’s an interesting case. It’s quite amazing what New Jersey does and how this decision came down. It was a long hard fight, and we’re going higher because it’s a mixed bag of amazing things that only in New Jersey could these. Evan Nappen 02:08 Yes, it definitely qualifies as the “only in New Jersey” line. Now, this case went at a number of issues. But essentially, what were the facts, if you will, of MU. Just briefly. The name of the case by the way, tell us about the name of the case. We’re calling it MU. Louis Nappen 02:34 Page – 2 – of 11 Okay, yeah, we went over this once before, and this is a follow up to that. This particular program is the name of the cases “In the matter of the Appeal of the Denial of MU’s application for a Handgun Purchase Permit and in the matter of the Revocation of MU’s Firearm Purchaser Identification Card and Compelling the Sale of His Firearms”. Evan Nappen 02:58 Now you know why we just call it MU. Yeah, because that’s ridiculous. But not just because of how it expanded. It’s right on the full escalation of an attack on our client’s rights by the State. Okay, take and stop the permits, and to take the guns and to forfeit the guns, and to just absolutely disenfranchise our client of his Second Amendment rights and his ability to have firearms. Louis Nappen 03:35 I’ll give you the history briefly. Evan Nappen 03:37 Yeah. What was the basis that the State had? Go ahead. Louis Nappen 03:39 Okay. It starts off. First off, this is a gentleman who already had a Firearm Purchaser Identification Card that was granted, and he already owned firearms. So, he applied for a Permits to Purchase Handguns or additional handguns. And at that hearing, so he. Well, I’m sorry, he was denied by his local police chief on that application a couple of years later. Evan Nappen 04:07 And this is after he owned guns and had his permit. Well, did anything new happen in between? Louis Nappen 04:14 Nothing, nothing. Evan Nappen 04:16 Nothing new? Louis Nappen 04:17 No. Evan Nappen 04:17 So, he had been granted his permits, and there was nothing new that happened. Yet he gets denied trying to get some more purchase permits? Louis Nappen 04:26 Correct, and he appealed that denial. This is up in Bergen County, New Jersey. So, the moment he appeals the denial of the application, the State then moves, the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office, which is very typical of them and what they do for the last 5-10 years at least, is to not only open up any expungement that he might have, to see what might be in his past, and a Motion to Revoke his Page – 3 – of 11 Firearms Purchaser ID Card, which he possessed already and a Motion to Compel the Sale of Firearms that he already possessed as well. So that’s how much they go back, if you try to appeal your denial of additional firearm permits. Evan Nappen 05:27 This was in Bergen County, and the judge in that county, who’s the judge? Louis Nappen 05:32 That was Judge (Christopher R.) Kazlau, and we have a number of appeals of his cases. This is typical happening in that. I mean, it has happened, typically in terms of it’s happened, certainly, to several individuals that I know of. We even have pending where they motion to take firearms at permit appeal hearings, purchase permit appeal hearings, not at forfeiture motions. This is not a forfeiture hearing. Th

Episode 125-The Latest Anti-gun Puppet Show Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 125 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, gun, executive order, dealers, guns, gun rights, universal background check, new jersey, law, anti, plan, universal background checks, registration, background checks, called, act, abuse, legislation, litigation, lawyer SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer, our show. We’re proud of our sponsor. Our sponsor is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, which is the state NRA affiliate for New Jersey. The folks on the frontlines here in battleground New Jersey with a full-time paid lobbyist and at the forefront of all the litigation. You need to be a member of ANJRPC.org. Today, I want to talk about the latest anti-gun puppet show. That’s right. This puppet show stars, his fraudulency, the senile sock puppet, who is known as the current occupier of the White House, also known as our national embarrassment, or just plain old Brandon. Now, what the senile sock puppet has done, of course, he has done through his puppet masters, who are Bloomberg and Giffords and the entire anti-gun Kabal whose routines and patter he obeys diligently. What he has done is put out an Executive Order, a new Executive Order. Evan Nappen 01:45 Now an Executive Order is done by the President. It’s done when you can’t get legislation through, because your agenda is so disfavored by our Republic, and he can’t get it through legislatively. So, you attempt to do it by executive fiat. And that’s exactly what Biden’s done and unabashedly. He admits that this is exactly what he’s doing. I want to read to you what he’s done and explain the significance of the Executive Order and what’s really behind it and to understand it is important because it actually is very revealing of the big picture, if you know what to look for, that the haters of you and me, haters of gun owners, the hate group known as the anti-gun crowd that hate us, hate our rights and just want to destroy anything related to firearms and disarm us and leave us vulnerable. This is their agenda. We’ve seen it. In order to get that agenda in place, they have their sock puppet there doing their bidding. And what was announced, really spells it out. Evan Nappen 03:13 Let’s take a look at this. First of all, the occupier is crowing about the “Bipartisan Safer Communities Act”. You may recall that was the anti-gun law passed by Democrats with some traitorous Republicans joining into the so-called Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, which does nothing for safety of communities at all. It’s just another step of anti-gun tactics, you know, the salami tactic, piece by piece, and we can’t give them an inch. Yet here we see Republicans falling for it, some of them, and this Page – 2 – of 8 passing and now we’re going to reap effect of the Bipartisan Communities Act. Biden is going to take advantage of that right now. Evan Nappen 04:19 So, as it says right in the news release from the White House. “When celebrating the Act’s passage,” now think about this. He’s celebrating the Act’s passage. What does that tell you about the Act right away if this guy is celebrating its passage? He is again calling on Congress to act. Why? Because it’s never enough. There’s no compromise here. It’s just take, take, take. That’s all they do. They don’t give anything. They just take rights, take rights, take rights. And of course, he’s calling to take more rights. Even though the bipartisan community safety’s law has passed So what? Take, take, take. So, what’s he calling for now? Well, he’s calling for a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. You know, assault weapons, which are really modern sporting arms, modern sporting rifles, high-capacity magazines that we know are just standard capacity magazines, requiring background checks for all gun sales, often called UBC, Universal Background Checks. We’re going to talk more about that in a moment. Requiring safe storage of firearms. We’re going to talk about that, too. Closing the dating violence restraining order loophole and repealing gun manufacturer immunity from liability. Evan Nappen 05:53 That’s right. These are all the agenda items that he wants Congress to act and to do this, but he can’t get that through, because they’re all outrageous and destructive of the Second Amendment. So, what he’s done is as much as he can do, by way of Executive Order. This is not voted on by Congress. Not voted on by the folks we elected to represent us. Not approved as law. No, it’s done by just a president who wants to push his failed agenda that he can’t get through Congress. And this is what he’s doing now. Eva

Episode 124-how to poop with a gun Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 124 SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun, permit, firearm, exemptions, new jersey, case, defendant, carry, state, gun rights, technique, holstered, court, restrictions, carry permit, lawyer, litigation, judge, law, reeves SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:15 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. We are proud to be sponsored by the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. That’s the NRA state affiliate in New Jersey. Every one of my listeners should be a member of their state association. Go to anjrpc.org to find out more. I have been thinking about a number of cases that I’ve had and issues that have come up, and now I’m seeing more of this. It has to do with, in a way, so many New Jerseyans finally having the right to carry, but not being completely familiar with the tips and tricks and protocols of things that are involved in carry, that aren’t often covered or addressed. Evan Nappen 01:20 I want to deal with one of the key issues when it comes to carrying your gun, and that is how do you poop with your gun? This is important. Because if you’re out carrying your gun, and you gotta go, how do you handle that situation while you are carrying your gun? You might say, well, why is this important at all? Is this just being silly? Absolutely not. Because what happens is individuals, I’ve had many of these cases through the years, accidentally leave their gun in the bathroom. If you leave your gun on the back of the toilet or you leave your gun on the toilet paper dispenser and you forget it, guess what, you’re now in a world of well, poop. Evan Nappen 02:14 And the reason is because the gun ends up being gone from your possession. If you’re fortunate, you can retrieve it. But normally what happens there is it ends up with the police, if an honest person finds it first. And that’s now going to create a problem for you maintaining your license, you might be charged with criminal charges about being reckless, etc. And if somebody who’s unauthorized gets a hold of it and causes a problem, then you can see that it’s going to go bad for you. This is definitely a situation where you have to be extra cautious if you’re carrying your gun, and you have to go to the bathroom. Evan Nappen 03:09 So, I want to review with you some important techniques and tips about what to do and not do when you’re going to do your business. Number one, and I would emphasize this, the number one thing is keeping your firearm holstered. By keeping it holstered, you are going to have less likelihood of an accidental discharge of dropping your gun, of exposing it, etc. So, keeping it holstered is the general number one rule. Plus, if it’s holstered, you’re less likely to forget it and that immediately maintains an Page – 2 – of 8 advantage by keeping it in the holster. Now I would also suggest that you never put your gun outside of your holster on top of the toilet tank or take it out and put it on the coat hanging ring. Anything like this, in which you may forget it, miss it, and end up leaving your gun. Evan Nappen 04:42 What do we do, what can we do to help ensure this and do this in a safe way? Well, if you leave your gun in the holster and pull down your pants, well, now that gun is close to the ground, and in theory, could be seen by someone in another stall at an angle. It has been known to have folks grab under the stall and grab somebody’s gun and take off. You can imagine if you’re in that rather vulnerable position, sitting on the toilet, and somebody grabs your gun in the other stall and takes off, you’re going to have a hard time getting your pants up and getting out of that stall and catching that person who just snatched your gun out of the holster. So, we don’t want to unholster it, but you have that potential. You want to be careful of the exposure of the firearm on the floor while you’re in a public bathroom. Evan Nappen 05:50 One of the techniques you can do there is you can try to get a corner stall, and a corner stall will help at least block one side of vulnerability. If that’s the side, by the way, where your gun is, it’s even better. But that’s one way to limit the exposure. The other tactic or technique is if you’re in any of these facilities these days that have a family restroom. Normally the family restroom has a diaper changing table and as tempted as you might be to put your gun on the diaper table, don’t do that. Again, you may forget it, and now it’s unholstered again. But the advantage of the family restroom is you can lock that room, and it’s only you in the room. Now, your vulnerability to theft of the firearm is limited, and you can maintain your privacy. So that’s something to look to do if you’re carrying. Eva

Episode 123-How to Lose your Gun Rights Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 123 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, gun rights, person, new jersey, gun, fight, rights, expungement, state, prohibited, association, assault weapons, felony, disabilities, deny, domestic violence, lawyer, joni mitchell, discover, guns SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I have some interesting things for you, a couple news bits here. Before I get to them, I want to thank our sponsor, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, the number one defender of gun rights in New Jersey, and the official NRA affiliate. They are the folks with their feet on the ground in Trenton with full-time paid lobbyists, and they are litigating these major cases that are going to have direct impact, already have, on our gun rights. Evan Nappen 00:55 So, I was looking at this, and I saw this headline, but actually, it’s even funnier. When you read deeper as to what it is, you know, Biden, just recently gave an address to the House Democratic Caucus in Baltimore, Maryland. And it seems that he was snubbed by more than a dozen Democrat lawmakers. Instead of hearing the President give a speech, they decided to go to a Joni Mitchell concert instead. Now I say that’s a wise choice actually for them. They were joined by a number of Republicans including the Speaker of the House and Susan Collins of Maine, etc. So, all these legislators decided they’re not going to listen to his fraudulency, the senile sock puppet, and see what he has to say. No, instead, they said, Joni Mitchell is the place to be. But what I really love, and this is a part they don’t emphasize here, is what President Brandon said at his speech to the Caucus. Do you know what he said there? Guess what, folks? Guess what his whole theme, his whole push at this hearing was? Well, it’s to ban assault firearms, of course. Of course. Biden said he’s going to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines come hell or high water. That’s what he’s going to do. And guess what? Nobody wants to hear it. Not even the Democrats want to hear it. Nobody wants to hear him. They’d rather go to a Joni Mitchell concert, and I don’t blame them because I’d rather do that too. He’s just bloviating continuously over this garbage called assault firearms. The assault weapons which are made up because they’re just an-anti gun ploy. We don’t even use the term assault weapons if anything. All these guns are our modern sporting rifles. That’s what they are. Modern sporting rifles. Evan Nappen 03:31 Because true assault weapons, Sturmgewehrs, as the Germans of the Third Reich created and called them, were fully automatic and semi-automatic. They were select fire. None of the firearms that Biden is talking about banning are select fire. No, in fact, they’re just semi-autos, in which this idea when it was put out from the beginning by Josh Sugarman in the book, his manifesto, Assault Weapons and Accessories (in America) (1988). He even said the general public will be fooled by this. We can trick Page – 2 – of 8 them. He admitted it. Because they won’t know the difference between fully automatic and semi-automatic, and he was right. The media and the politicians go along, and Biden is still harping on this same old saw, but luckily even less people are listening to him. Evan Nappen 04:30 Now another thing here that is important for every gun owner to know is that Discover card, the credit card, Discover is now the first credit card to have gun store tracking. That’s right. They will track your gun purchases when you use Discover Card. In an article by Larry Keane of National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), which is also a gun rights group and important group. They focus on manufacturing and dealers and such. Very important to our rights. In his article from February 23, 2023, it says that “Discover Financial Services announced it will begin using the new controversial codes in April. Reuters reported that Discover will become the first credit card company to use the specific code for purchases at a firearm retailer.” https://www.nssf.org/articles/discover-becomes-first-gun-store-tracking-credit-card/ So beware. If you have a Discover Card, I would get rid of it. They’re obviously part of the anti-gun, and they, of course, are putting it out like it’s to track illegal sales. Yeah, right. Like that has anything to do with credit card purchases. It’s just nonsense. I would highly recommend not using your Discover Card in any way, particularly regarding firearms. And for that matter, you should think about just getting rid of it. Because as these companies go woke, which is really what this is, and they just go extreme left in their propaganda and trying to impose gun control schemes on u

Episode 122-Think Twice Before Being a Plaintiff for the Brady Center Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 122 SUMMARY KEYWORDS law, new jersey, carry, gun, brady, permit, carry permit, exemptions, gun laws, gun rights, issued, statutes, fight, state, judge, gun owners, lawyer, hollow, case, folks SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, I want to make it clear that I would advise that you never become a plaintiff for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence because of a recent case here, relatively speaking, that I thought was pretty interesting. It really shows just what can happen. This was out of The Colorado Sun newspaper, and it’s an article by Jesse Paul. And what it says is “Colorado law makes it very difficult and financially perilous to sue the gun industry. (That’s likely to change.)” And you better believe that it does. This is a lesson learned that unless you just want to be a pawn of gun control and don’t care about your own finances, I don’t think it’s such a hot idea. Listen to this. In this article, it says, “Sandy and Lonnie Phillips wanted to hold the gun companies that sold ammunition, tear gas, and armor to their 24-year-old daughter’s murderer accountable.” Instead, they’ve ended up having to file for bankruptcy. Now, you know, I can feel for anybody who has lost their child. It’s terrible. Honestly, I feel horrible for these people. But to attempt to blame the inanimate objects and the people that produce these because they’re being by a very small, miniscule number of folks get used criminally, and then try to hold the company responsible. It just is nothing less than an anti-gun ploy to sue the gun makers, manufacturers, and sellers out of business by abusing the tort system. Evan Nappen 02:30 So, in response to this tactic that the antis were using, and still are attempting to use, of trying to sue our Second Amendment out of existence, Colorado passed a law that said you cannot bring essentially lawsuits of this nature against manufacturers, dealers, etc. Yet, despite this law, the Phillipses still attempted to sue under some very weak theory that obviously failed to still the Brady Center have their publicity stunt out of it, obviously, and to file the litigation, etc. They spent, as they say here, they lost three years of our life, fighting this, and it says they were like being revictimized, and I can see that. And what happened was the law in Colorado has a provision that says if you bring such an action, and then you lose, it gets dismissed, you are responsible to pay the attorneys’ fees and costs. And guess what? They ended up losing, and they had to pay $200,000 in attorneys’ fees and costs for bringing this action. That was an utter failure, and they should have known that it would be a failure. Evan Nappen 04:22 And what’s interesting here, if you dig into this article, because they don’t want to make a big deal, you see, about just how bad the Brady Center acted in this regard. But if you dig down, you’ll find where it actually says, deep in it, that the Phillipses 2014 lawsuit, this is quoting direct from the article, was Page – 2 – of 8 brought in conjunction with and at the urging of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. . .” And it said the couple were pushing here to require businesses to take steps to prevent their products from being purchased by people who would use them in mass shootings. Oh, there you go. Yeah, how are they even going to do this. But anyway, that was their, supposedly, their laudable goal. Their optimistic, idealistic, pie in the sky, idea, and they’ll do it thru the tort system. So, they got sold this bill of goods. In the article, the Philipses say they trusted the Brady Center to have their back in the lawsuit, but they weren’t fully made aware of the financial consequences they faced before ultimately being forced to shoulder the defendants’ legal costs themselves. Evan Nappen 05:50 You see Brady didn’t join in the lawsuit with them as a plaintiff. It was just these two. They were the only plaintiffs. And what’s really amazing is the article goes on, it says here that the judge overseeing the case apparently expected Brady to help the Philipses as well. It says, this is quoting from the judge, “It may be presumed that whatever hardship is imposed on the individual plaintiffs by these awards against them may be ameliorated by the sponsors of this action in their name. (Judge Richard P. Matsch wrote in a motion.)” Well, guess what? No such luck. Sorry, Judge. Brady ain’t paying for it. The folks who lost their daughter, who were convinced to bring this and who, as they say, weren’t advised as to the risks that were involved, they get to pay. They get to declare bankruptcy because they coul

Episode 121- Ammo Registration is Here! Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 121 SUMMARY KEYWORDS insurance, new jersey, ammunition, handgun ammunition, law, gun, mandates, state, purchase, handgun, ccw, required, gun laws, permit, carry permit, disclose, firearm, carry, lawyer, gun violence SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:22 Hello, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well guess what? Ammunition registration has come to New Jersey. That’s right, the law was passed a number of months ago, but now it is up and running. So, when you go to buy handgun ammunition in New Jersey, you’re going to be charged a transaction fee for one box of 20 twos of $1.50, and you’re going to get databased with your purchase and your personal information. Let me tell you about exactly how this works. By the way, the sponsor of our show is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, anjrpc.org. They are the foremost defender of gun rights in New Jersey, and they are the NRA state affiliate. They are working full-time trying to protect our rights and fight in the toughest anti-gun jurisdiction there is and that is New Jersey. Evan Nappen 01:41 Now with this new law, when you go to the dealer you buy, like I said, even one box of .22s, the dealer is required to enter you into an electronic ammunition purchase database. Now this law itself can be found in the Criminal Code in New Jersey under NJS 2C:58-3.3a. This is specifically subsection a. What it mandates is the electronic reporting and record of transaction for sale, transfer, assignment, or disposition of handgun ammunition. This is the law. The State Police were required under this law to develop a program for retail dealers of handgun ammunition. So, that means they got to be a licensed retail dealer in New Jersey, because that’s what a retail dealer means under the law, to electronically report a record of any transaction involving sale, transfer, assignment, or disposition of handgun ammunition and the information related to that transaction. Now the law specifically says that the information shall include the date of the transaction, the name of the manufacturer, the caliber or gauge, gauge, that’s interesting, gauge, what handgun firing shotgun shells and I mean gauge not 410. That’s not a gauge. I missed the last 20-gauge, 12 gauge or 10 gauge handgun that was for sale. But anyway, it asks to record the gauge, or caliber and the quantity of ammunition sold or transferred. It needs to have the name, address, and date of birth of the purchaser; the identification used to establish the identity (of the purchaser) and any other information the superintendent may require. Evan Nappen 03:53 So, what did the New Jersey State Police actually do with regard to this? Well, they created this electronic database that’s connected to the New Jersey NIC system. When a dealer is going to make the sale, they go on the web interface, and they click on. The first thing it asks is to put in your name and it does have a date of birth. Then it asks for the SBI number. Now where’s the SBI number? Well, Page – 2 – of 8 that’s on your Firearms ID Card. I guess you better have a Firearms ID Card or you’re not going to know your SBI number. If you have some an old Firearms ID Card, they didn’t even put SBI numbers on the old ones. Later, they finally started using them. Then it needs your residential address information, which is your street address and city and state and zip code. So, you’re going to plug all that in and that gets you registered in the database. Evan Nappen 05:00 Then the ammunition information is as follows. The name of the manufacturer has to be entered by the dealer. Then it says ammunition type. Now this is interesting because, of course, it’s handgun (ammunition), but there’s a pulldown menu. Since only handgun ammunition is required to be registered, why do they have type for registration? Think about that. In other words, you know that their intention is to make all ammunition registered at one point. But for now, it’s handgun. Then it has the caliber, and it asks the quantity. The quantity has to be the number of rounds, folks. So, it’s not one box. It’s 50 rounds or 100 rounds. Then it also asks something that’s very interesting, because it’s not in the law that this needed to be asked. But they ask whether it’s hollow nose ammunition or not. They are distinguishing whether individuals have purchased hollow nose ammo or not. Now why they asked for that? I don’t know. It’s not required under the statute. Hollow nose ammunition can lawfully be purchased from the dealer and can be brought to the range or brought to your home. You’re allowed to possess it there. So, why are they distinguishing whether it’s hollow nose or not? I don’t know. But all that’s being

Episode 120- How’s The War Going? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 120 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, law, gun, gun rights, permit, carry, rights, issued, fighting, marijuana, restrictions, war, gun laws, judges, court, anti, lawyer, battle, case, gun owners SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:22 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I’ve been thinking about current events and guns, and I kind of realized that there is a really good analogy. There’s really a war on us. A war on gun owners. A war on our rights. A war on guns. And this war is fascinating to see because I have news for you, we are actually winning the war. The war isn’t won yet, that’s for sure. But we are winning battle after battle. And it is really a fascinating time to be alive when talking about and thinking about gun rights. Because if you think about the struggle that we’ve had as gun owners through the years, and I’ve been practicing gun law for over 35 years. When I started, we didn’t have any kind of Second Amendment case law that we could use. We were always the most unbelievable of underdogs. Granted, a war was going on there, but it didn’t have the same intensity. Because as we fought hard for our rights, the antis ended up getting major billionaires supporting their causes and setting up all kinds of well-funded, left-wing, anti-gun groups and pursuing strategies and getting basically the Democrats for the most part to make this issue a part of their platform and selling them on pushing gun laws and the seizing of our gun rights. The destruction of us and our gun rights is good politics for them. Evan Nappen 02:38 So, we’ve been fighting this battle, and it really is a war as a multitude of battles on a multitude of fronts. I realize what my position is here, and yes, I’m fighting these gun laws. I’m on the front lines, many times, fighting the gun laws and defending law-abiding citizens from being turned into criminals. It’s similar and is important, just like our sponsor, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs has been there defending gun owners in New Jersey for years and years. You need to join the Association. You need to protect yourself and be part of the movement and be part of these forces that are fighting on your side. But I realized that through this battle, and as we’re making this progress, it’s actually through the war of multiple, multiple battles, that what I primarily try to do is make sure that as we fight and win these battles, that you, the listener, do not become a casualty in the war. Evan Nappen 03:55 We’re going to win this war. We’re winning it battle by battle now. We’re going to win it. But in the process of fighting to win, I want to see as few of you become a casualty of the war on our Second Amendment rights. So, what Gun Lawyer is really about is helping you not become a casualty in the war on our rights, and in fact, be able to protect yourself and survive this. So that when we have our ultimate victory, you are there to celebrate it and exercise your rights like never before, and therefore Page – 2 – of 8 have them preserved for future generations. That’s really what wars do, isn’t it? Especially when you win them. You’re preserving that way of life, that culture, that freedom, and those liberties for yourself and future generations. It’s really what we’re in. Evan Nappen 04:58 So, if you look at the state of the war is now on our rights, you see that we had a tremendous victory with the Bruen decision. Actually, a trifecta of victories from Heller to McDonald, and to Bruen. Creating what has become our defense system, our Iron Dome, if you will, against our enemies. In response to our Iron Dome being created of the Second Amendment and Constitutional rights, our enemies have decided to launch mega amounts of missiles at us. Just launch rocket after rocket after rocket. Because after Bruen, particularly, we’ve seen an enormous increase in anti-gun laws being passed. Yet, just like a great Patriot missile system, we keep knocking out their missiles and their rockets. They fire at us, and we blow them away. We are blowing them away in such greater volume than we ever had, and that is something that makes me cheer. Because as I sit back, I see gun laws falling, case law, courts deciding our way. As we’re fighting, gaining ground, more ground, just like in a war, it is incredibly encouraging. In a very weird way, but true. These are glorious times. They’re glorious times because we’re fighting battle after battle that is so worth it. Evan Nappen 07:03 And what’s really funny is if you think about the anti-gun strategy, they’re fools. They really are fools. Because of their multiple launches of law after law that they’re passing, like petulant children, like

Episode 119- Jersey Carry Update Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 119 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, sbr, gun, prohibited, brace, places, pistol, litigation, state, blocked, new jersey, law, short barrel rifle, carry, court, protect, possess, preliminary injunction, lawyer, atf SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well, these sure are exciting times that we’re living in. As I’m sure you’ve been following, we’ve had tremendous successes in the litigations that have been ongoing against Murphy’s onslaught against our Second Amendment rights in New Jersey. The Governor is spearheading the anti-civil rights bills that are focused on destroying Constitutional rights, particularly the Second Amendment. Just recently I am happy to say that his Industry-Killer Bill, which was designed to allow abuse through the civil system by way of the Attorney General being able to sue gun companies all over America and anyone associated with firearm manufacturing, etc, and go at them under this guise of consumer safety, etc. This whole gambit has been granted a preliminary injunction against that law taking place. That’s one of their main missions there. To become a national destroyer of firearm rights for the country not just for New Jerseyans, and to eliminate the right for all Americans throughout the country. It has now been the recipient of a preliminary injunction, and congratulations are due to those folks in gaining that preliminary injunction. Evan Nappen 02:08 At the same time, the New Jersey Carry Killer bill, which was and still is a bill designed to limit and destroy our ability to no longer be victims, but instead to become defenders against violent criminals. Of course, as soon as the Court in the Bruen decision came out with their ruling and the great Justice Thomas’ opinion, empowering and putting teeth into the Second Amendment and our ability to carry a firearm outside the home, the most effective means of self-defense, and be able to defend ourselves, New Jersey jumped jammed through the legislature a bill to try to limit, in every way possible, the carrying of a firearm in New Jersey. Because now that permits had to be issued, they wanted to make the permits themselves a nullity, and what they did was pass this what we call “Carry Killer” law. Evan Nappen 03:29 The Carrier Killer law was immediately challenged. As soon as it became effective, there was litigation brought, essentially two major lawsuits. One by what we call the Coalition. Four pro-gun groups together bringing an action that was somewhat limited, but very effective. It focused on the “sensitive places” restrictions. The State Association, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, is a proud sponsor of Gun Lawyer. They brought a more comprehensive litigation, but it was heard after the Coalition litigation had been granted the TRO. The Association litigation got consolidated into the same action in court as the Coalition’s litigation and that actually worked out tremendously. Remember these Page – 2 – of 7 groups are not in competition with one another and here, it actually worked beautifully. Because the first action, which was somewhat more limited than the Association’s action, got an injunction and that got the camel’s nose in the tent, so to speak. Then the Association’s litigation more comprehensive, additional injunctive relief by way of a Temporary Restraining Order was expanded. Evan Nappen 05:10 So, now I want to review with you, the listener, because I know you want to know where you can and cannot carry under the new litigation that was put forward by the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. We have the following places where there were carry restrictions, but those restrictions have now been blocked by the court as to being unconstitutional. These places specifically include, very important, the vehicle prohibition. The “Carry Killer”, anti-civil rights bill by Murphy had a provision that said when you get in a vehicle, your gun had to be unloaded and locked in a box. We call that provision, the “Car Jacker Protection” law, because that’s what it did. It protected criminals and carjackers and those bent on violently attacking you in your car. It protected them while forcing you to be a victim and to be disarmed. That has been enjoined and restricted, blocked by the court. So, it is not in effect, and you can carry with a Carry Permit a loaded handgun in your vehicle. Evan Nappen 06:44 There is a private property restriction in which it mandated that the property owners had to affirmatively state, affirmatively state, that you could carry your gun on private property where you were otherwise, the default setting, if you will, the default setting was that you could not carry and that has been blocked by

Episode 118-Biden’s 40 Million SBR’s… Brace Yourself Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 118 SUMMARY KEYWORDS brace, firearm, short barrel rifle, pistol, sbr, new jersey, gun, biden, atrocity, new jerseyans, called, gun laws, law, sutherland, national firearms act, abiding citizen, nfa, lawyer, pistol grip, government SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:18 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you may have heard that our President has pushed another bit of his urgent, vital, gun control efforts to help destroy the Second Amendment, which is his agenda, of course. Part of that has been to abuse through agency regulation in any way that he can. Not just go after dealers, which you’ve heard me talk about, and we’ve had that fight on a couple of dealers already where we’ve luckily won. But now one of his latest moves is to reclassify what are called “pistol braces” as making firearms into SBRs, which are Short Barrel Rifles. Now the pistol brace has been around almost 10 years now. What it does is it attaches to a handgun, so it gives greater stability and allows for greater accuracy when shooting your handgun. It is used extensively by wounded and injured veterans and those that have injuries or handicaps with shooting, and it would allow for their ability to shoot much better and more accurately as an aid in bracing the firearm. They became very popular because with a brace, even though there was debate as to whether you can or cannot shoulder a brace until eventually it was determined you can shoulder the brace. What would occur is your firing of a pistol with a brace became more accurate. The bottom line, all a brace does is make your shooting more accurate. Evan Nappen 02:14 So, it is fair to say that Biden has engaged in a war on accuracy. When you shoot a firearm, they want you to be all over the place. They don’t want accuracy. They want you to hit targets you didn’t intend. They want bullets to fly wild. They obviously do not want you to be accurate because all a pistol brace does is improve accuracy. What Biden has done, through his administration, has determined that the brace turns a firearm into an SBR. An SBR is a short barrel rifle. Now short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns have been prohibited under the National Firearms Act since the 1930s. They’re in the same category as possession of a machine gun. Now the whole absurdity of the 1934 National Firearms Act is a whole other debate we could have, and the National Firearms Act is itself an affront to the Second Amendment. The politics that created the ban of the ’30s were a combination of what was a naive understanding of the progun folks at the time. And of course, a major dose of Hollywood. It was the media even then, who were the few that misused firearms. These things were turned into Warner Brothers movies. Everyone knew that if you ban machine guns, you would end gang violence and that only criminals use these things. All of that’s, of course, nonsense and false, but the same politics of that period of the 30s. Page – 2 – of 7 Evan Nappen 04:09 They say that the idea of an SBR or short barrel rifle really shouldn’t even have been something that was ever banned. The reality of it is we need to repeal the entire NFA because there’s just no reality to it. You start distinguishing between fully automatic and semi-automatic, and it really just gets downright silly. Bullets are coming out of that gun, and it’s the person not the firearm. If your barrel is short but you have a stock so now it’s a little more accurate with the stock than if you didn’t have a stock on a shorter barrel, who cares? There’s been various workarounds that of course show the absurdity to it all with sawed off shotguns. Because we ban sawed off shotguns, but we can have a shockwave. So, try to distinguish any kind of material issue between a sawed off shotgun and a shockwave, there’s nothing. Sawed off shotguns shouldn’t be prohibited either but why not? We have 14 inch barrel shockwaves, and it’s not a problem. It comes down to people, not guns. Evan Nappen 05:14 This is something that we’re going to get to a little later in the show. Its focus on material objects has always been a folly. But the problem with the folly is that there can be serious penalties at play if you are caught in their game of musical chairs, and you end up being a victim of gun laws. I don’t want to see any of you become a victim of gun laws. So, for example, someone has sent a letter to me and it’s on this very topic. From Salvador, regarding pistol braces. Evan, now to BATF has determined that any pistol with a pistol brace be classified as an SBR. How does this affect New Jersey residents that have purchased NJ legal “other” firearms? Evan Nappen 05:55 Well, this is a

Episode 117- Size Matters… and Other Lies Cops Tell Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 117 SUMMARY KEYWORDS exemptions, law, charged, insurance, new jersey, gun, carry, judges, lawyer, association, gun rights, gun owners, handguns, anti, lie, court, home, police, state, carry permit SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I got some updates, and some interesting things are rolling. I’m sure we’re going to have some more excitement. As I’m sure many of you know, there was a Temporary Restraining Order issued, as we’ve discussed by Judge Bumb, who we are calling Saint Bumb for issuing the restraining order against a number of the sensitive places that create this gutting of our carry license. It was about maybe five I think were part of that first lawsuit, and then the vehicle transportation as well, like we discussed. But there’s the second lawsuit and that’s the Association’s lawsuit. You know, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs who is a sponsor of this show. And that is a more comprehensive litigation that covers much more than the Coalition’s and the Coalition’s as successful and so far, excellent. As I said before, these organizations are not in competition with one another. They’re all fighting for our gun rights and have taken two different approaches. Evan Nappen 01:37 Approaches that dovetail nicely, frankly, because ironically, it appears and interestingly, it appears that the double teaming is heading to be what looks like a great success. I don’t want to count our chickens before they hatch, but it really is. I’m very cautiously optimistic. Association’s comprehensive lawsuit goes at more of the sensitive places and goes at other challenges in this atrocious anti-civil rights law by Murphy. Other very bad provisions are in there throughout the law, not just the sensitive places. So, it’s really poised to do a major, a major slice and dice of that law. The two punches, the double punch from both organizations, the jab and the uppercut, the successful boom and an uppercut, boom. It really looks like it’s going to do tremendous damage to the law, and just knock it out. And that’s what all of us want to see. So, it’s very exciting, and Thursday, are the arguments on the TRO from the Association’s litigation. We should see some excellent things there. I wanted to mention that because when you’re listening to the show, you can look forward to catching that event. Then the next show, we’ll be discussing if there was an outcome by then. If Judge Bumb has made a determination and what that determination will be. Evan Nappen 03:35 Additionally, we’ve been experiencing some anti-gun activities from the Fed side and that includes Biden’s pistol brace ban. I want to talk to you later in the show about what you need to know about the Biden pistol brace ban and their criminalization of oh, about 40 million or so gun owners in the United Page – 2 – of 8 States. That impact is particularly important if you’re in New Jersey because of the conflict that it puts you in, and there’s steps that you need to know to take. Let me tell you, though, one of the things that really occurred to me this week, even though all this interesting news, shall we say is happening with various attacks on our rights and freedoms. But remember, the current laws that are in the books are also enforced, and these laws that get enforced are often enforced above and beyond any measure of sanity, any measure of understanding. I get calls from folks every day that are facing charges. But this one story that I’m going to tell you now that individual that contacted me, just made me say, I have to talk about this on the show, because every once in a while, there’s something that’s so ridiculous that it’s beyond the normal, ridiculous. When it’s beyond the normal, ridiculous, I just know that my listeners have got to hear about it. Because it just hits you like what? You got to be kidding me, and it is the best. Evan Nappen 05:33 One of the things that I always find entertaining is the lies the police tell. I mean, some of them are just the biggest whoppers and they’re just hilarity. Now, I know they don’t mean to be hilarious, and I know it can have serious consequences, these lies. But, you know, some of them are just where do they even come up with it. I don’t even know. I mean, some are just outstanding. So, a new police lie came to my attention that I’d never heard before that goes in the record books. It involves a fellow who ended up getting charged with possession of hollow nose ammunition in New Jersey. Now the thing is, New Jersey, as you probably know, prohibits hollow point or hollow nose ammunition except within narrow exempti

Episode 116-NJ Where Can I Carry, Where Not? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 116 SUMMARY KEYWORDS places, firearm, gun, new jersey, prohibited, law, carry, facility, sensitive, gun rights, permit, premises, casino, conduct, fight, lawyer, state, gun laws, anti, litigation SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:21 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well, we’ve had a lot of excitement. We’ve had our court cases, rolling like tanks, into the federal court. I’m happy to say that at the last word here, we have gotten a Temporary Restraining Order. It is extremely exciting to see the Second Amendment come alive and the Bruen decision have its effect. The court actually granted restraints, right out of the box, on certain restrictions that are in the atrocious new Carry Killer, anti-civil rights law signed by Murphy. Because of how complex it is and how crazy these times are, I’ve been getting a lot of questions. Evan, where can I carry? What are the restrictions? What is the story? What did the lawsuit disable at the moment and put injunctions on so that what’s legal, what isn’t legal. That’s what I’m dedicating this show to. Evan Nappen 01:39 I want to thank our sponsor, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs (ANJRPC), anjrpc.org. They are the premier gun rights group in New Jersey. They have litigation that is currently in federal court as well. They just won a victory by having their case consolidated with the other gun rights group case, in front of Judge (Renee Marie) Bumb (United States District Judge). Judge Bumb is a fantastic judge who really gets it, who really understands the Second Amendment, and who everyone is impressed with. Everyone in the pro-gun community, pro Second Amendment community is singing her praises. I see online that she is being called Saint Bumb, and I can fully get behind calling her Saint Bumb. Because it’s so refreshing and wonderful to see a judge that understands the Constitution, understands our rights, and is making our rights come alive to stop the ridiculous, absurd, dangerous, and treacherous laws that New Jersey has put upon its law-abiding gun owners. Evan Nappen 03:01 So, looking at the most recent and up-to-date situation regarding where can you carry and where can you not carry. Well, this is what is called “sensitive places”. What the antis did was they took some language out of the Bruen decision where it talked about restrictions could be placed on certain sensitive places. But those sensitive places were very narrowly defined. They were traditional sensitive places. They were places that historically, there had been prohibitions on and made it clear that those places still would remain as being able to bar firearms from such places. But the anti-gunners saw that as some kind of opening that didn’t exist and decided to ban everything and anything they could come up with so that it would gut completely the utilitarian value at all of having a permit to carry. That was Page – 2 – of 8 the strategy. The strategy is to destroy carry by exploiting so-called “sensitive places”. So, New Jersey followed with this plan, probably came up with some think tank, Giffords or Bloomturd, or one of these anti-gunners. Here’s, a great idea. Let’s try to take this to the absolute level of absurdity and cause problems and try to cobble the utilitarian purpose and value of having a carry license. Evan Nappen 04:42 Well, it’s not working. It’s not working, and the cases are filed. We’re winning, and we’ve just begun even in the victories. This should end up eventually just a complete and total victory for us, but for now, what are the places that you’re prohibited? What are the places that you’re restricted? You need to know them, and you need to understand them. Because this is the battleground, as we speak, on our rights, as to where we can have firearms. And it’s important, extremely important, to know that the sensitive places that we’re going to be discussing apply not only to handguns, not only to your carry permit, your permit to carry a handgun under New Jersey law. Not only to that, but it also applies to your long arms. It applies to rifles and shotguns that you are transporting with a Firearms ID Card, unloaded in your vehicle. It even applies to those. So, the old days when you would have much more freedom to transport your unloaded rifles and shotguns, as we’ve discussed on Gun Lawyer under the rifle and shotgun trap, you now have prohibitions that apply in the same way because they use the word “firearm”. Evan Nappen 06:06 So, what we’re going to do today is we’re going to review the 25 “sensitive places”. I’m going to explain to you as best I can as to what can be explained on them, and I’m going to show y

Episode 115-Thousands Turned into Felons- FPICs Void Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 115 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, new jersey, law, expungement, criminals, fight, lawyer, rights, gun, folks, crime, commitment, letter, subsection, gun laws, gun rights, license, firearms, affects, serial number SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m attorney Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, first of all, I want to thank our sponsor, the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are a fantastic organization that are fighting for our rights as we speak. They’re involved in major litigation over these ridiculous laws that have been placed upon us in New Jersey. And that’s one of the things that I need to discuss today that is critically important. So many people are completely unaware of this, but you better know it, and if you are victimized by this, you’re going to need to take action. Evan Nappen 01:08 New Jersey has effectively invalidated and made void 10s of 1000s of Firearm Purchaser Identification Cards, and it is a felony level offense, a Fourth-Degree crime, up to 18 months in state prison. That’s a year and a half, folks, for those that don’t do math in state prison now, if you fail to surrender your card, if you have been affected by this ridiculous change. This change is just a complete departure from what New Jersey has had for years and years and years. Let me explain to you what has happened. This was part of the atrocious Murphy anti-civil rights bill that passed, A4769, that also contained all the anti-carry provisions so that New Jersey tries to keep its law-abiding citizens as victims of violent crime and not defenders. Evan Nappen 02:29 Well, baked into that cake was a surprise that you need to know. It not only changed the law with regard to carry to gut any utilitarian function that a carry permit had, but it also added a host of disqualifiers. Disqualifiers that fall under NJS 2C:58-3.c. That statute is important because it is the same standard for Handgun Purchase Permits, Firearms ID Cards, and Permits to Carry a Handgun. It is the listing of the specific reasons that one can be denied their right to keep and bear arms and be denied the right to have a license to acquire a firearm or to carry a firearm, etc. In these disqualifiers is a new disqualifier that modified, changed, amended, the old disqualifier, and it involves what is mental health. Evan Nappen 03:52 Now, I’m going to explain exactly how this is done and what New Jersey did, but in order to understand that you need to understand how the old law worked and why so many people are affected by this. Thousands and thousands of people are going to be and immediately are affected by this and are at Page – 2 – of 7 risk of serious criminal charges. Originally, in New Jersey, if you ever had an involuntary mental health commitment or a voluntary mental health commitment, in other words, you checked yourself into a mental health facility to get help. Or if you had been mandated by a court to get mental health treatment in a mental health facility. Then New Jersey had a law that said you’re disqualified for having guns unless you produce proof, medical proof, a doctor’s letter, other medical proof, etc. from a psychiatrist or medical doctor, etc, that you’re not suffering from that particular disease or disability that would make you unsafe for the handling of firearms. Evan Nappen 05:10 Thousands and thousands of folks did that very thing. Now, even in the old days, prior to this law being changed, individuals that did that were covered as far as New Jersey law was concerned. We’ve even discussed on the show that federal law didn’t really care about that. Federal law was only focused on folks that had involuntary commitments, and the only way you could restore your rights under federal law for an involuntary was by getting a mental health expungement. It wouldn’t matter if you had 100 doctors saying you’re okay. Federal law wouldn’t care. You need to have a mental health expungement. But Federal Law never, and still, to this day, they don’t care about voluntary commitments, only involuntary commitments, where you’re forced. Evan Nappen 06:10 But New Jersey always cared about all commitments but gave the escape valve of simply getting proof from a doctor that you’re okay. Well, New Jersey just changed that law. It was signed into law on December 22, 2022. It’s A4769. It modified NJS 2C:58-3., specifically subsection c. where all the disabilities are, and added number 13, added number 13. Lucky 13 for the disqualifier. Let me read you exactly what it says. It says, and this is a preface. A handgun purchase permit or firearms purchaser identification card (or for that matter, by the way, any permit to carry a handgun, because they specifically referenced the statute) s

Episode 114-The Rifle and Shotgun Trap Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 114 SUMMARY KEYWORDS exemptions, firearm, handgun, place, cased, law, unloaded, gun, state, exempted, new jersey, sensitive, firearms, facility, id card, shotgun, subsection b, rifle, lawyer, carry permit SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome Gun Lawyer. I want everyone to be aware of the traps, multiple traps, that have been created by this new atrocity, this so-called 4769 Bill. The traps are actually more hidden and greater than you may suspect, and it’s not just about carrying a handgun. This new law has essentially gutted the utilitarian value of a Firearms ID Card when it comes to transport of firearms. I’m going to explain this in detail. Because most folks do not understand this, are clueless about this, and are simply going to be sitting ducks to be turned into criminals, which is what New Jersey does. It is constantly looking to turn law-abiding citizens into criminals. And it is because of an agenda that is not just anti-gun, and not just anti-gun rights, but anti-you and me. They want us disenfranchised of our rights for the entire country, and by turning us into felons, you lose your gun rights for the entire country. Evan Nappen 01:48 It doesn’t matter how stupid and unreasonable and idiotic the state gun law is, or the state law is that you violated. If it’s a felony level offense, you’re screwed for the whole country. So, you need to be aware of these traps. I’m going to do a little bit of a deep dive here and discuss the so-called “sensitive places” section of the bill and its far-reaching implications, not just for handguns. Before I do that, I want to first of all, thank our sponsor, the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, for supporting the show so that I’m able to continue to tell law-abiding gun owners like yourself about these things. To warn you so that you don’t become a victim of New Jersey gun law. At least folks that listen to Gun Lawyer are going to be smart, and they’re going to know where these dangers are. Evan Nappen 03:01 As a preface to this, the first thing everyone needs to understand is how our long arm possession system worked prior to this bill. Prior to this bill, the prohibition on possession of rifles and shotguns is under NJS 2C:39-5.c. Under that section, it says no person shall possess any rifle or shotgun unless having first obtained a Firearm Purchaser Identification Card. The next section says you can’t have the rifle or shotgun loaded unless otherwise permitted by law. Now, the exemptions to 39-5. are found in 39-6. Now in 39-5.c. is where the section is about rifles and shotguns that I just reviewed with you, and under Subsection b. of 39-5 is a prohibition on handguns. Page – 2 – of 9 Evan Nappen 04:09 The handgun prohibition in b. said no person shall possess any handgun unless having first obtained a Permit to Carry a Handgun. The same exemptions under 39-6. applied to the handgun prohibition and applied to the rifle and shotgun prohibition. But the difference always was that if you had a handgun, and prior to anyone essentially being able to get a carry permit prior to Bruen, when you were transporting your handgun, you had to transport strictly within the exemptions under 39-6., which are very narrow exemptions, unless you had a Permit to Carry a Handgun. If you had a long arm, a rifle or shotgun, you could transport lawfully within the exemptions, but you could also transport, as long as your rifle shotgun was unloaded, you could transport beyond the exemptions if you had a Firearms ID Card. Because the Firearms ID Card is what exempted your unlawful possession right in the face of the statute under 39-5.c., just like possession of a handgun if you had a carry permit. Well, that exempted your possession of the handgun without needing to go to the exemptions, but since so few people had carry licenses, they could not get that protection. They had to strictly rely on the exemptions. So, that’s how New Jersey’s system essentially worked. Evan Nappen 05:46 Then lo and behold, Bruen, the Bruen decision comes along and makes it so that citizens are actually able to get carry permits. When citizens got carry permits, that then exempted them right away from the 39-5.b. prohibition without the necessity of having to rely upon exemptions, because now you have a carry license, you see. It made it the same as for rifles and shotguns if you had a Firearms ID Card. The only difference is with a carry permit for a handgun, you could actually have your handgun loaded. Because with rifles and shotguns, you weren’t allowed to have it loaded, unless you were otherwise permitted by law, which meant you were somehow under an exemption for having it loaded, but unloaded, you’re always fine. Evan Nappen 06:36 Well, n

Episode 113-How We Beat Biden Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 113 SUMMARY KEYWORDS atf, biden, gun, inspectors, new jersey, firearms, inspections, law, revoke, willfully, willful, gun rights, fight, evan, state, ira, license, gun dealers, hearing, lawyer SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3, Ira Levin Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, today we have a very special guest in the studio and that is somebody who I am really, really excited to have been able to help. Together our guest, whose name is Ira Levin, we defeated Biden. That is correct. We defeated Biden. And that’s because Joe Biden put forward an arbitrary policy that was not something done by the legislature, but something done by fiat. And it created a situation in which top gun dealers, range operators, etc, became vulnerable to being destroyed, having their businesses utterly destroyed based on this arbitrary rule. We’re gonna get into it, and how we fought it, and how this made a huge difference. And how, despite the efforts of the Biden administration, there are elements in the law that had been put there to protect us. And in fact, in this case, that’s exactly what happened. Evan Nappen 01:48 I want to first mention our show’s sponsor, ANJRPC, which is the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs. They are a great organization that defends our gun rights in New Jersey, and I would encourage everyone to be a member of the Association. It’s the state affiliate of the NRA. It’s the umbrella organization of gun clubs in New Jersey, and they have full time lobbyists down in Trenton. And they never sleep. Let me tell you Evan Nappen 02:23 But let me introduce to you, Ira. Ira, thank you for being on the show today. Ira Levin 02:29 Thank you for having me, Evan. I appreciate it. Evan Nappen 02:31 Now, Ira, first of all, I would like our listeners to know about you. You’re a veteran. First of all, correct? Ira Levin 02:42 That’s correct. I was in the Air Force for just over five years. Evan Nappen 02:46 Then at a certain point, you became involved in the firearms business. How did that come about? Page – 2 – of 10 Ira Levin 02:57 If you remember back, New Jersey passed a law that said that you could only purchase one handgun every 30 days. When that law passed, or when the legislation passed, I said to my wife, I said, this is the most ridiculous legislation. If they think this is going to stop gun crime. No one’s buying a gun legally, and then selling it to somebody on the side so they can go and commit crimes. The person gets caught, where’s the gun come from? They go back to the buyer and say, Where’s your gun? How many Evan Nappen 03:28 Wait a minute, wait a minute. Ira, you mean to tell me that people don’t go through the entire New Jersey permitting process so they can get guns papered to themselves, so they can then sell them on the street. Really? That’s amazing. Ira Levin 03:44 So, I said to my wife, I should get my license and help people buy guns legally as cheap as possible. And she said, you know what, why don’t you do it? So, I applied, and I started doing FFL transfers out of my home. Eventually I became so busy that I had to move into a little shop, and I’ve since grown that into a multimillion-dollar business. Evan Nappen 04:07 That’s great. And what’s the name of your shop for those that may not know? Ira Levin 04:10 Legend Firearms. I’m located in Monroe, New Jersey, inside the Union Hill Gun Club. Evan Nappen 04:17 Okay. There is also where there’s firearm training and range facility. Right? Ira Levin 04:27 Right. We have it’s a 24-hour facility. It’s a private club. It’s very reasonably priced. We also have a training group on site. ROC Training is run by Rocco La Rocca. So, he does all the training, him and his people and obviously they’re very busy right now with the concealed carry classes. Evan Nappen 04:44 Right. New Jersey, of course, is a challenging environment to be involved with firearms. Probably the most challenging, and yet your problem that you ended up having was not with New Jersey. Isn’t that so? Ira Levin 05:02 That’s correct. My issue was with the ATF. I have never had an issue with the state of New Jersey. Page – 3 – of 10 Evan Nappen 05:08 Now, tell me, when you’re a gun dealer ATF has a certain job to do when it comes to licensees. And that I guess involves doing various inspections and such. And you’ve had inspections through the years, correct? Ira Levin 05:26 Yes, I’ve had a number of inspections since 2009, when I first started my business. Evan Nappen 05:32 Right, and how would you characterize your relationship with the ATF? Ira Levin 05:41 Excellent. I always had a great relationship. I still have a good relationship with the people who inspected me

Episode 112-This Gun Case That May Change Everything Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 112 SUMMARY KEYWORDS case, firearms, new jersey, expunged, welfare, second amendment rights, point, gun rights, second amendment, permit, denied, guns, gun, firearm, expungement, appeal, interest, state, court, heller SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Louis Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. We have a special guest in the studio today, and I’ve known this special guest for quite a long time. This guest is my brother, Louis Nappen. The reason that Louis is here today is we’re going to be talking about a court case in New Jersey that may change everything. It’s not an exaggeration. We’re going at an issue in our gun laws that is an issue in every gun permit case, Firearms ID Card, Permit to Carry and weapon forfeiture, because it goes directly to the heart of the disqualifiers, what we call the disabilities. We are challenging one of the disabilities that is the most troublesome of them all because it is incredibly subjective. We see it being abused and used to deny citizens’ rights all the time, and we finally have an opportunity here. It’s very exciting and can have tremendous impact. Evan Nappen 01:38 Now, I want to first thank our sponsor, who is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, ANJRPC, for helping us to get the word out here and to be a proud supporter of our show. This case is really significant. And it’s very interesting as to how it progressed, and the timing of it, given the Bruen decision. First, let me introduce my brother Louis. Louis, how are you today? Louis Nappen 02:20 I’m fine. Thank you very much. Evan Nappen 02:21 Good. I’m glad you’re with us to talk about this. Now, Louis did most of the heavy lifting in this case, and it is very interesting because it’s an appeal to the Appellate Division of New Jersey, in which the Appellate Division did something that we have rarely ever seen before. Why don’t you tell us about what occurred here, Louis, in the procedural aspect of this case? Louis Nappen 02:54 I’ll give you a little bit of the history here. We have a person who applied for a permit to purchase a handgun. He already had a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card, and he wanted some more guns. In New Jersey, you have to apply for each additional handgun, and he applied. He was denied under the clause, the statutory subsection. There are 11 disqualifier subsections in our law, and he was denied to the one that says the issuance should not happen to any person where the issuance would not be in Page – 2 – of 13 the interest of the public health, safety or welfare. That’s the vague, overbroad, how are you supposed to know, clause that he was denied under. It was not in the interest of public health, safety or welfare for him to get handgun permits, even though he already had a Firearms ID Card. Evan Nappen 04:02 As a matter of fact, he had had a firearms virtual ID card and other handgun permits issued by this same department. Correct? Louis Nappen 04:11 Yeah. Evan Nappen 04:12 He had had them since I think 2017. He had had these permits and had been issued, and then he applied. Louis Nappen 04:22 In 2020, he was denied this way. He appeals, he takes it up to them, and the way it works. He was denied by his police chief, but that’s how it works in Jersey, and then you can appeal to the Superior Court, county for a hearing. Now, when he did that, the state then moved to revoke his Firearm Purchaser ID Card and to compel the sale of his firearms that he already possessed. Evan Nappen 04:53 Now, before we go further, what was the allegation or what was the basis or the foundation for them even trying to claim that there’s some danger or not in the interest of public health, safety, welfare here? Because he did not have what’s called a per se disqualifier. He was not a convicted felon. He didn’t have a restraining order. There was nothing otherwise that prohibited him from having a firearm. Right? Louis Nappen 05:20 That’s correct. Yep. No restraining orders, no convictions on his record, none of that. All he had. Evan Nappen 05:26 What did they rely on? What did they rely on? Evan Nappen 05:29 Oh, oh, okay. Now, wait a minute. So, he’s being denied now his Second Amendment rights. They’re revoking in de facto revocation to take away his old licenses, permits and try to grab his guns over an expunged matter that they reopened. So, for them to do this, and for the judge to grant it, it must have been incredibly serious. What was expunged? What were these heinous offenses that were expunged that now opening expungement lead to his loss of Second Amendment rights? What were they? Louis Nappen 05:29 Page – 3 – of 13 They relied on two dismissed and expunged matters. The State motioned t

Episode 111- Bi Partisan Voluntary Gun Ban Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 111 SUMMARY KEYWORDS new jersey, gun, explosive, law, bill, gun rights, suicide, fight, people, rights, gun owners, anti, evan, disenfranchise, buy, firearm, push, destructive, gun laws, means SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I recently read a very interesting article, and then I’ve seen more information about it. About what is being pushed as the bipartisan voluntary gun ban. Before I get into that, I want to thank you all for being loyal listeners. I particularly want to thank our sponsor of the show, which is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, ANJRPC, which is the state NRA affiliate in New Jersey, fighting for our gun rights. In New Jersey, it’s vital that you belong to the Association, as we fondly call it. Now, this interesting push of this bill is a little bit of a twist on what is normally put forward. The idea behind this is to have a Federal law where you can voluntarily place yourself on a list so that you cannot buy a gun. (H.R. 8361 – “Preventing Suicide Through Voluntary Firearm Purchase Delay Act”) (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8361/text?r=4&s=1) You literally impose a gun ban on yourself. This is an actual Federal bill that has some bipartisan support, and it is being pushed under the guise of suicide prevention. So, if somebody, in theory, knows that they are suicidal and that they themselves cannot trust themselves to not want to go out and buy a gun and off themselves, they can, in advance, put themselves on a list so that a gun cannot be sold to them. In other words, making themselves essentially NICS denied on the purchase when they go to buy. Evan Nappen 02:34 Now, of course, the whole thing is absurd. First of all, the push on suicide and prevention of suicide is, on one hand, something any one of us can sympathize with. We don’t want to see people killing themselves. You want to see people not invoke what is called the “long term solution to short term problems”. And I get that. But, as usual, the anti-gun folks, the anti-Second Amendment folks, seize on anything they can seize upon. And here, they want to just make suicide about guns. They’ve pushed programs in the past and “the means matter”. In other words, go after guns to stop suicide. Now, even when you stop for a minute, if someone is bent on killing themselves, there’s only about 1000 ways to do it. A gun is one way, but are we going to also put yourself on the list so you can’t cross bridges? Are you going to put yourself on a list so you can’t buy rope or any kind of wire? Are you going to put yourself on a list so that you can’t run your car in your garage with the fumes? At what point can you stop these various means which is endless ways to kill yourself? Evan Nappen 04:09 Page – 2 – of 7 Instead, they want to focus it on the gun because it becomes another mechanism to go after guns. They particularly love to push suicide in states and areas where the murder rates are low and gun ownership is high. Then they go, “well we got to prevent suicides” so we need to get gun control here because they can’t sell the crime theme. Although today it’s not so important even to sell any theme, I guess. Because, particularly in Jersey, they’re just coming straight out now and say, “we’re here to control you”. It’s not even about crime or anything, but in other places where they’re still trying to have some guise, a scheme, then suicide prevention is one of the things they will try to abuse. And so, we now see this bill, this bipartisan so-called bill, to create this registry that you can put yourself into. Now, good luck getting yourself out of this, should you ever do it. But put yourself into this so you bar yourself. I guess if you’re masochistic, too, this is a wonderful thing. You just can’t stand having all these rights. I wish there was a way I could just end the having rights, like the right to have guns. Maybe there should be a list, so I lose my right to free speech. Because who knows what I might say? Or lose my right to remain silent or lose my other right. It’s amazing to even think we’re going to set up a law so that you cannot ever invoke your rights in whatever right this law wants to focus on. Evan Nappen 06:01 Even if we look at this and say, hey, you know what? This is really well intended. This bill is just pure of heart. This bill is there so that individuals, you know, and if it saves just one life, it’s worth it. You know, we’re going to hear that crap. I mean, you have one life, and it’s worth it. Except when we talk about carry and your ability to defend yourself where we are going to save many lives, that&#821

Episode 110- Reparations For Gun Owners Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 110 SUMMARY KEYWORDS reparations, new jersey, gun violence, gun owners, gun, orwellian, paid, apologized, harms, licenses, people, justifiable, rights, law, applications, term, protect, lawyer, slavery, violence SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Of course, Gun Lawyer now has a sponsor. Very proud that the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, anjrpc.org, is sponsoring our show. Today I want to talk about reparations for gun owners. You know, you may hear about reparations, and maybe you’ve heard about reparations. You hear reparations being tossed about as something we should do to address America’s past regarding slavery, and descendants of slaves should be paid reparations for what their ancestors went through. Now, without getting into that whole debate whether we should or shouldn’t do that, it does raise an interesting question about reparations. Some people claim well, the entire Civil War was reparations paid for that debt. Evan Nappen 01:27 But putting aside the question of whether reparations should be paid by slavery, I started looking into the idea of reparations, and is this something that has been done before in any other contexts? What is the deal with that? So, I found a very interesting article. It’s called “Reparations in the United States”, and it’s from University Mass. It is written by Allen J. Davis, Ed.D. (https://guides.library.umass.edu/reparations) It’s “An Historical Timeline of Reparations Payments Made From 1783 through 2022 by the United States Government, States, Cities, Religious Institutions, Universities, Corporations, and Communities.” It is quite an extensive list. I never realized before just how much and how many times, reparations throughout history have been paid by governments and entities for all kinds of wrongdoing. Evan Nappen 02:38 It started out here in this paper by Davis, in 1783 Belinda Sutton, who apparently was sold into slavery in Massachusetts. After 50 years of enslavement, she was made a freedwoman, and she petitioned Massachusetts to get a pension. She was actually paid a pension of 15 pounds, 12 shillings, whatever that meant back then, from her enslaver. This is one of the earliest records of this in terms of it applying to slavery. Then it goes to 1863 when mobs of white New Yorkers terrorized black people by roaming the streets and setting fire to buildings. There were deaths that are estimated 100 to 1000. All the merchants apparently got together, and they raised over three quarters of a million dollars in today’s dollars to pay reparations for what had happened. Page – 2 – of 7 Evan Nappen 03:57 Of course, there’s 1865, the famous William Sheraton, and (U.S.) Secretary (of War Edwin) Stanton, where they met with black leaders (in Savannah, Georgia). General Sherman issued Special Field Order No. 15., that Black people would receive an army mule and not more than 40 acres in South Carolina and Georgia. You may have heard about that reparation. In 1866, the (Southern) Homestead Act. In 1878, there are damages paid in Kentucky, and it goes on. Then in 1924, there’s Pueblo Lands Act where it’s reparations to Native Americans. All through that period from the ’20s, ’30s, and ’40s, different reparations paid by the Government to Native Americans. Even into the ’50s that continued. Payment as well to people in Alaska. Evan Nappen 05:13 It goes on, all the injustice and then in 1970, Richard Nixon restored the Blue Lake and surrounding area in New Mexico (to the Taos Pueblo). Money was paid in ’71 about $1 billion plus 44 million acres of land in the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act. It goes on and on. You should see list after list of payments and such. In 1988, what do we have? We have President Reagan signing a bill that apologized to 60,000 living Japanese-Americans who had been put in internment camps and paid $1.2 billion ($20,000 a person). Additionally, $12,000 and an apology to the (Unangans) Aleuts for internment (during WWII). It goes on and on. Evan Nappen 06:12 Here again, more reparations payments. In 1994, where you see the State of Florida approving $2.1 million for survivors of a 1923 racial pogrom. In 1997, Bill Clinton apologized to survivors of the Tuskegee, Alabama, syphilis tests. Then Governor Keaton in Oklahoma paid reparations (in the form of low-income student scholarships), and it goes on and on. It’s really amazing how many times, how many things, all the money, and apologizing for individual’s rights, who had been trampled in various ways and various means. In 2019, Senator Booker from New Jersey put forward to study and have a report and look at different proposals for reparations. He said the bill is a way of address

Episode 109-Should you DELAY applying for your NJ Carry? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 109 Gun Lawyer — Episode 109 Transcript SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun owners, gun, permit, new jersey, law, gun rights, misdemeanors, state, judges, rights, folks, association, fighting, licenses, bill, denied, second amendment, domestic violence, lawyer, violent SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Today I’m going to explore an interesting question, and that question is whether you should delay applying for your New Jersey carry permit. This is an important consideration. I’ll get into detail about whether or not that’s something you should do. Evan Nappen 00:53 Now, I am really excited about today’s show. Because today, for the first time, this show has a sponsor. That’s right. I want you to know that I did not actively seek sponsorship. The show is not about being “monetized”. This show is about having a voice so I can speak to fellow gun owners about their rights, about what’s going on, and hopefully have a little fun while we do it. To get the word out, that the lamestream media refuses to let people know. I’m very proud to say that the sponsor of our show is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. That’s right, our state association, and that is a sponsorship which I’m happy to accept and proud to be a part of. I’m going to tell you more about the Association and just how vital it is to our rights. It is indispensable in the state of New Jersey. And that’s not an understatement. You need to know and be a part of www.anjrpc.org . Evan Nappen 02:24 Now, one of the things that has come to my attention, and it is coming from this horrible bill – A4769. This bill is so bad, and this is saying something because I’ve been fighting for gun rights my entire career. My entire calling, activism, dedication, my life has been defending the Second Amendment and fighting for our Second Amendment rights. Opposing both legally and politically gun laws that intrude on our rights and infringe on our rights. It turned law-abiding citizens into criminals. I have to say this is one of the most obnoxious, most reprehensible pieces of legislation I’ve ever seen. It strictly targets law-abiding citizens and admittedly so. Evan Nappen 03:37 In the past, they would push gun laws under a guise of doing something about crime, a guise about this and that for preventing death or for safety, etc. But no longer. They just admit this is to control law-abiding citizens, and they don’t make any bones about it. So, this makes it particularly egregious. It is just a law designed to get us. It is a law designed where, folks, we are at war. War has been declared. It’s that simple. We’ve always been fighting, but this is now over the line. We have to use our political power to fight this and that includes what you’re doing legislatively to challenge it, even though it’s Page – 2 – of 9 stacked so much against us. But also in the courts, too. To fight this as soon as Murphy’s pen hits the paper. I know that our State Association, ANJRPC, will be doing that as other groups will, too, I’m sure. Evan Nappen 05:07 This egregious bill, this horrible bill that just absolutely flies in the face of what should be a glorious expansion of liberty, a glorious time of our Second Amendment rights having been recognized by the Supreme Court and empowered by the Supreme Court, so that we no longer have to be victims, but can in fact, be defenders in New Jersey. This bill has tried to create every conceivable type of roadblock to eviscerate that right from the state. As you may know and may have heard in prior shows that we have examined it and looked at it, we saw how it creates these horrible, enormous amounts of sensitive places so that it’s virtually impossible to exercise your right in the state. How it mandates all kinds of procedural things that are just there to be bureaucratic annoyances and hurdles, making it harder for you to exercise your rights and to delay the exercise of your rights. Just unbelievable. To intrude into your privacy, to go at your Freedom of Speech for social media investigations, to require insurance, if you’re going to have a carry. To do everything they could think of to stop you and me. It is a war on you and me. It is a war on our rights. It is just disgusting that these people in our government, our own government, believe their job is to take freedom, to take liberty, to make citizens vulnerable to attack and to criminals. It’s just astounding to even think that there would be a majority of these folks in power that want to do this to us. And yet, there it is. Evan Nappen 07:27 Now, in this atrocity, this unbelievably egregious bill that goes after our Second Amendment

Episode 108-using racist gun laws to uphold racist gun laws Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 108 SUMMARY KEYWORDS repugnant, welfare fraud, law, rights, case, firearm, gun laws, tradition, range, uphold, court, prohibit, disarming, people, anti, second amendment, gun, violent felon, oregon, lawyer SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, this case came down in the Third Circuit. The case is Bryan David Range versus the Attorney General United States. (Case No. 21-2835) This was a Third Circuit Court of Appeals case, which includes in its jurisdiction New Jersey and Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Now, this case involves a very interesting set of facts, and it’s something that touched upon things that we’ve talked about in the past. We’ve talked about in the past how there is genuine institutionalized racism in the gun laws. That’s the racism that the left never wants to discuss. But frankly, when you prohibit felons from having firearms, by the very nature of doing that, you’re discriminating against blacks that I think it’s at least five to one, if not six to one, to whites, at a ratio of felons in America. With Hispanics, it’s two to one. Evan Nappen 01:41 So, when you prohibit in these categories like this you are disproportionately removing and disenfranchising the right to keep and bear arms from individuals. Now I know many of you will say, well look, violent felons, as such, they should not have the right to keep and bear arms. I don’t care about how it breaks down racially at all, or any of that. And I can understand that view. What about non-violent felons? Felons that have not been convicted of anything dangerous or violent. Should they still be precluded from enjoying and exercising their Second Amendment rights? We have on the books this ability to get Relief From Disabilities. The ability to get your rights restored. But that hasn’t been funded, as we’ve discussed in the past, since 1992, thanks to Charles Schumer and the Democrats. By not funding it, individuals cannot get their rights restored. So, if you’re in this disproportionate ratio of minorities, you cannot get your rights restored. Even though you’re a good person and it was a nonviolent offense, you’re still screwed out of your Second Amendment rights. Well, that’s pretty good, institutionalized racism. Evan Nappen 03:01 We see today that the tradition of institutionalized racism is alive and well. The case here that I’m going to tell you about furthers that proposition in a manner that is kind of unbelievable, but true. So, let me tell you about this Range case, right from the case. First of all, the legal action itself was a challenge. I know that the Firearms Policy Coalition had quite a role in this, and I give them credit for fighting the fight and trying to right these wrongs. So, good for them. Unfortunately, the case, at this time, at this Page – 2 – of 7 moment wasn’t successful. That doesn’t mean there isn’t more fight to be had. It’s important, even with it not being successful, that it shows what we’re dealing with in these courts. Evan Nappen 03:57 Let me tell you about the Appellant here in the case of Bryan Range. The court says in the beginning of the case that (Appellant Bryan) Range falls into a category, having pleaded guilty to the felony-equivalent charge of welfare fraud. That’s right. He ended up convicted of welfare fraud, pled guilty to it, a non-violent offense. The court, essentially in this case, finds that the people constitutionally entitled to bear arms are, law-abiding, responsible people, a category that properly excludes those who have demonstrated disregard for the rule of law through the commission of felony and felony-equivalent offenses. Additionally, they concluded that even if Range falls within “the people,” the Government has met its burden (to demonstrate) that its a prohibition is consistent with historical tradition. Evan Nappen 05:01 Wait until I tell you about the historical tradition that upholds the prohibition on Mr. Range, non-violent, felony offense remaining a disqualifier, a disenfranchisement of a constitutional right, which is the equivalent, remember, of Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of Religion. The Court in its decision, and I’m cutting through a lot, makes it clear where it says that the Second Amendment does not protect “unvirtuous citizens”. Through the opinion, they say “. . . that the Second Amendment extends only to people considered ‘virtuous citizens,’ and therefore hold that there is a longstanding tradition of disarming citizens who are not law-abiding.” This is acceptable, and in this case, fine and dandy. What is the analysis that took place here? It is based on the Bruen decision, and in t

Episode 107-The Case of The Loaded Chicken Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 107 SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun, cmp, tsa, called, chicken, lawyer, books, revolver, dcm, buy, law, firearms, evan, case, gun owner, client, spokesman, places, weapons, fbi SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, here’s a very interesting story that I just read, and it reminds me of the cases that I seem to end up getting. Just recently the TSA at the airport in Fort Lauderdale found a gun hidden inside a Florida woman’s chicken. That’s right. She had a raw hen that she was apparently taking to Haiti, and inside the raw hen being transported to Haiti was a compact, semi-automatic pistol. Now they’re not identifying the pistol, but it looks like a compact nine. I can’t make it out exactly. It could be a .380, but I think it’s a compact nine stuffed deep into this chicken. Now, I’m looking at this and thinking, should you really think that a metal gun wouldn’t be found in a chicken? I mean, come on. It’s going to be like they’re scanning it. They are going to see a chicken, and they are going to see a gun in the chicken. Evan Nappen 01:49 Now they may think, hey, they had a rough night last night and maybe they’re seeing things or something. But this is a freaking gun in a chicken. Come on. What do you expect? So, I’m looking at this, and the TSA posted a picture of it. They decided to do some whole kind of goofy news release on it, which I don’t blame them because this is very bizarre. But it does say that a TSA spokesman took the opportunity to reach into their bag of Thanksgiving themed puns, as they issued a warning to other travelers looking to safely travel to secure firearms. By the way, I am reading parts of this, just for everyone to know, from a piece by Grace Stevens In the Truth About Guns. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/tsa-finds-gun-hidden-inside-florida-womans-chicken/ So, tag is very cool. This is where I saw this come through on the news feed, and if you don’t get the tag info, you should it’s kind of fun. Evan Nappen 03:00 Here’s a quote from it. It says, “The plot chickens as we barrel are way closer to Thanksgiving.” Oh, the plot chickens. I get it, like the plot thickens. Okay, let’s go back to there. Can you imagine the TSA is actually trying to be funny? Wow. “The plot chickens as we barrel our way closer to Thanksgiving. For us, it’s a time to be thankful that our officers are always working around the cluck to keep you safe,” the spokesperson wrote. “We hate to beak it to you here, but stuffing a fireman in your holiday bird for travel is a baste of time. This idea wasn’t even half-baked; it was raw, greasy, and obviously unsupervised.” The best joke here in my opinion, would you say that she was attempting to transport a pistol that was cocked. Right? Come on, but TSA wouldn’t go there. But we can go there. We can go Page – 2 – of 8 there on Gun Lawyer. And nothing about foul play or any of that not being suspected. You would think they would at least do that joke. Evan Nappen 04:11 Come on TSA, get with the program and do some better job. You were just given a gun in a chicken. Think you can do way better than what I just read. That’s just pathetic. Seriously, this joke of a situation was literally handed to the TSA on a silver platter, and they failed to take advantage of it. Instead, I think one day, this is all going to come home to roost on the TSA over what they’re doing. And you know what? I have to say that I have actually a strong desire to get away from making chicken jokes here. Instead, I want to tell you about other weird places that guns have been found. Even had clients with guns in weird places. Evan Nappen 05:06 A classic, of course is, I mean, it never gets old, when somebody’s caught with a gun in their butt. Let’s just face it. It seems to me from my observation that the preferred gun to have up your butt is a North American Arms mini revolver. I mean, it is a mini revolver, right? It makes sense; that’s pretty good. If you’re going to put something up your butt, putting a Desert Eagle is going to be just not very comfortable. Not that the North American mini revolver is going to be comfortable, but it’s a big difference between that and a Desert Eagle or a nice Smith 29 .44 mag. Oh, forget it, you’re at least going to have to get. I would say that the North American Revolver is probably the best choice. Although some folks might be able to push it up a notch. I could well see somebody going in a gun shop and discussing these alternative ways of carry and having other guns suggested, maybe to upsell the person. Do you think you could do a J frame? How about a Smith J frame? We’ll, throw in a f

Episode 105-Knife Law Victories You Need to Know About Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 106 SUMMARY KEYWORDS knife, law, new hampshire, judge, carry permit, gun, bill, repeal, new jersey, rights, gun rights, carry, second amendment, firearms, switchblade, ban, handgun, pennsylvania, gun laws, permit SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I’ve got a lot of cool stuff to tell you about some, some good news. I know, we are always looking for good news here, and I got some good news for you. But before we get into the good news and some other letters and interesting things, I just want to say you’re listening to the show and it’s just a day or two before election day. I know you’re probably sick of hearing about get out and vote. But I’m going to tell you right now, get out and vote. You have to vote. One of the toughest things in all my years of activism for the Second Amendment and gun rights and knife rights and all that has been apathy, apathy from our own people. Don’t be that guy or gal. Okay, no apathy. This is so critical. So crucial. We are at midterms, and we have to send the message. We have to send the message. Putting aside all the other issues that have been wrecking our lives under the current administration and just focusing on what we’re talking about today, which is Second Amendment issues, then it’s critical that we get out, make that vote, make that statement so they can see what they’re in for. Evan Nappen 02:08 Let me just tell you, that we have a strict policy here, a strict policy of how to determine who to vote for. Some of you may say, well, who should I vote for? I’m going to make it really simple. You vote Republican. It’s that simple. It doesn’t matter who the person is. Not in this election. It sure doesn’t. Not one bit. We’ve got to vote Republican to send the message and get the Republicans in power in both houses of Congress. We got to do it. It’s incredibly significant because Republicans have to gain the power in both houses. Once the Republicans have the power, then Biden’s anti- gun, anti 2A agenda can be stopped. And more than that, way more than that, because the Republicans will then be in control of the committees. The committees, you see, they decide what bills go forward. But more importantly, what investigations take place. Then they’ll be able to use the power of the committee to subpoena and to investigate all the wrongdoings of the Democrats and their cohorts that they’ve been doing to America, to you and me and our rights. Evan Nappen 03:47 This also means getting into the activities of the ATF and the FBI, in what they’re doing to gun rights. It means the ability to investigate and go at all these things, so that we can finally, actually, get some real information out there. Not what the Democrats have wanted to hide and conceal and fool the American public about. It goes directly to our rights across the board. Everything from their being in cahoots with Page – 2 – of 8 social media and stopping even my voice from social media, etc. to telling you things you need to know. Our ability to have discourse to the administrative and Executive Orders by Biden intruding on our Second Amendment rights. All these things are at stake and in play, and other proposed laws. And how about Court appointments, Judge appointments, maybe even Supreme Court appointments? They have to have that approval by the Senate. We need Republicans in control because there’s nothing better that they would like to do, than to turn the Court around as a weapon against us. So, it’s critical. Even in the local races throughout the land. There needs to be such a red tsunami, not just a red wave, a red tsunami, to slam them into reality, and to stop taking our rights and threatening our rights, and doing the things that they seem to get away with, with impunity, that will be no more. So, do your part. I’m counting on you. You know, I’ll be out there. Make sure you vote. Evan Nappen 05:45 Here’s some good news. Some good news in knife rights. That’s right. Remember, the Second Amendment is not just the right to keep and bear guns, it’s the right to keep and bear arms. And arms include knives, as well as guns and many other weapons. Any weapon that is utilized in self-defense. Any weapon utilized for hunting, etc. This is shown by history in history texts and tradition of our American laws. I have researched the earliest knife laws in America, and I did a piece on this in the Knives Annual 2021. You can read it. The oldest knife laws in America. I traced those laws. Evan Nappen 06:46 You know, in those days, the old days, you were required to have edged weapons. You were required as part of the militia, of which every able-bodied man was part of, to not on

Episode 105-Beware of Consenting to Give Up Your Guns Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 105 SUMMARY KEYWORDS guns, pti, gun rights, switchblade, turbo, second amendment, criminal, new jersey, socialist, rifle association, rights, gun laws, lawyer, consent, judge, democrats, attorney, state, law, evan SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I have been getting some interesting cases, and these cases have raised an important point of what I want to make sure my listeners are aware of. What I’ve seen is a pattern of mistakes by individuals who fall into what I call the “give up your guns trap”. It’s a trap in law that occurs when individuals are put into the system, and the system persuades them to give up their guns. Because when this happens, they don’t advise as to all the ramifications, and it is a sucker bet. Literally, the gun owner is played as a sucker. I don’t want to see any of you played as a sucker. I want you to know your rights, and I want you to know what to do if you ever end up in this situation. Don’t say or think that it can’t happen to you. Because just about every client I’ve ever talked to tells me I can’t believe this is happening to me. So, it happens. Evan Nappen 01:54 Let me tell you about the recent incident issue and what happened so we can learn from these other folks’ mistakes. What happened was this fella calls me who had a TERPO against him. TERPO is what we commonly call Red Flag. TERPO stands for Temporary Extreme Risk Protection Order. When the TERPO, which in New Jersey can be done at the drop of a hat, I mean, it’s easier to get a TERPO against somebody than getting your sandwich made correctly at Wawa. Okay, this is how it goes. It’s made to be quick and easy to get the person’s guns taken. Then they get to have due process afterwards. We’ve talked about TERPOs and the mechanics of TERPOs and how outrageous the red flag TERPO is in New Jersey. So, here’s an individual who gets slammed with a TERPO. The TERPO was not justified, and this person, unfortunately, went to court without an attorney. Now, here’s the thing. I know a lot of folks, they know they’re righteous, they feel truth is on their side. They feel that their trust in the system is going to pull them through, and therefore, they don’t need an attorney. They don’t need a counselor to advise them about the nuances of New Jersey’s gun laws and how they work. Evan Nappen 03:43 So, he went there without an attorney and here’s the thing, he won. Yep. The judge agreed. The judge agreed that the TERPO was unjustified. The judge dismissed the TERPO so that it did not become a FERPO, which is a Final Extreme Risk Protection Order. And that’s good. It’s great that he was able to achieve that result. But here’s the problem. Even though the judge dismissed the TERPO is a victory, the judge in the order dismissing never made a finding or a statement or any type of order as to the disposition of the winner’s firearms. So, the judge says yeah, the TERPOs no good. You’re not in Page – 2 – of 8 immediate danger to yourself or others and I’m dismissing it. That’s great. But this fellow didn’t know to insist that while you’re there in court getting a court order that the judge also speak to, in the order, the disposition of the property itself. The disposition of the firearms. In other words, ordering that he get his firearms returned. So, that didn’t happen. And lo and behold, he won the TERPO, but now he wants to get his guns back. Evan Nappen 05:25 He’s contacting the prosecutor’s office and trying to get a hold of somebody there and trying to get someone to return guns. And guess what? He’s got no leverage to return guns. There’s no court order to return the guns. He wants to get his guns back. He did it himself. He won the TERPO, but oh, well. Finally, he gets a hold of someone from the prosecutor’s office. I don’t know exactly who. But they said, look, I’ll tell you what’s a lot easier. Sell your guns. If you consent and give up your guns and sell your guns, you can go get guns or something instead of getting your guns returned to you. You can take a loss of $1000s of dollars in that because, you’re only going to get wholesale from a dealer. But so what? That’s your option. Agree to have them sold, and we’ll make arrangements. So, give up your guns. This fellow signed a consent to have his guns sold to a dealer with him getting the money. Of course, there’s a lot of fine print in that consent, and it says that if you fail to get a dealer to do it within a certain amount of time, usually 60 or 90 days, all the guns are forfeited to the state. They all go to the state because you

Episode 104-New NJ Law Restores Gun Right To Thousands Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 104 Gun Lawyer — Episode 104 Transcript SUMMARY KEYWORDS new jersey, law, gun rights, audit, firearm, crime, conviction, offense, firearms, rights, gun, second amendment rights, prior conviction, statute, lawyer, called, people, state, guns, gun laws SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi! I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I have some really great news and that’s something when it comes to guns in Jersey. You don’t always get to say, but it truly is. New Jersey has probably, unknowingly, but in fact, they have done it. Restored the gun rights to 1000s of individuals who were otherwise being denied their gun rights. I am talking about individuals that had out-of-state convictions for misdemeanors, and I want to explain why this is so and how it is so and give you some specific information here because this is going to help so many people that have been wrongfully denied through the years. You see New Jersey breaks down it’s classes of offenses under NJS 2C:1-4. It’s important that I give you the statute numbers in case anybody listening needs to actually reference the law. I don’t mean to bore you with these numbers, but the numbers will bring you right to the law itself so you can see it and even provide it to a licensing bureaucrat who maybe doesn’t understand it or know it. Or anybody else that may have that concern. Evan Nappen 01:56 If you look under Classes of Offenses, it begins where New Jersey identifies what types of offenses are and how they break down. And what determines primarily a class of offense has to do with the imprisonment or jail time. That’s an important factor, you see. So, New Jersey starts by saying an offence defined by this code, meaning New Jersey’s code, or any other statute in the state of New Jersey, for which a sentence of imprisonment in excess of six months, constitutes a crime within the meaning of the Constitution of this State. New Jersey. So, New Jersey calls, what we would readily identify as felonies. They don’t use the term felony in New Jersey, they use the term crime. If you have been convicted of a crime in New Jersey, that means a felony level offense. If you’ve been convicted of a felony level offense, of course, you’re a prohibited person as a felon under New Jersey law and for the most part, federal law as well. Now, the lesser offenses that we might consider to be misdemeanors, New Jersey doesn’t use that word either. They use the word disorderly persons offense. The reason that that is confusing is people confuse disorderly persons offense with disorderly conduct. We’re not talking about disorderly conduct, although some disorderly conduct might be a disorderly persons offense. A disorderly persons offense is that lesser level non felony, which Jersey calls crime. So, we have crimes and disorderly persons offenses. You don’t want to be convicted of a crime. Of course, you don’t want to be convicted of anything, but a crime disenfranchises you of your Second Amendment rights. Page – 2 – of 6 Evan Nappen 04:23 Then New Jersey says, and this is key, that an offense defined by the laws of any other jurisdiction, for which a sentence of imprisonment in excess of one year is authorized, shall be considered a crime when a reference is made by this code, or any statute of this State to such offense. What you see there is if it’s over a year, and it’s in reference to other states, then it’s a crime if it’s over a year. But in New Jersey, if it’s a New Jersey offense, it’s over six months, then it becomes a crime on the New Jersey side. So, New Jersey then has what are called disorderly persons offenses and crimes, and as a subset below disorderly persons offenses are what’s called petty disorderly persons offenses. In New Jersey, if you’re convicted of a petty disorderly persons offense, it carries a max of 30 days jail. If you’re convicted of a disorderly persons offense, it has a max of six months in jail. Evan Nappen 05:49 Then New Jersey jumps in its statutes to crimes. And that’s where a crime of the Fourth Degree, that’s the lowest level of crime, that’s 18 months. Then the Third Degree is up to five years, and a Second Degree is up to 10 years. A first degree is up to 20 years. That’s how Jersey breaks it down. In the past, if an individual had a conviction for an out-of- state misdemeanor for which the maximum jail was one year, New Jersey formally took a position that since it was over six months, it was a crime. Even though it’s not a felony level offense under federal law or other jurisdictions, but New Jersey put it in that category. It no longer is, because it clarifies here, that it has to be over one year to be a crime, but it

Episode 103-Murphy’s Jim Crow, Anti 2A, Car Jacker Protection Bill Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 103 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, places, handgun, prohibitions, carry, second amendment rights, bill, law, prohibited, carry permit, lawyer, state, including, tradition, exemption, justifiable, required, claiming, new jersey, citizens SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Today we’re going to discuss in detail Governor Murphy’s New Jim Crow, anti-Second Amendment Car Jacker Protection Bill. That’s right, folks, our governor, never short of various laws to slam our Second Amendment rights and our liberty and freedom, has put forward just a doozy here. This one is so incredibly absurd, stupid and egregious. We have to discuss it, and you have to know what it really says, not what the media is letting you know, it says. We are going to get into these details. I’m going to show exactly why I say what I say and what you need to do to help fight this atrocity on our Second Amendment rights. The bill is officially A-4769. ( https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4769 ) That’s where you can find it, and you can read it for yourself in the state legislative website. Evan Nappen 01:38 But instead, here, I’m going to give you the highlights of the most unbelievable provisions that exist in it, of which there are many. You need to know who the sponsors, the folks that want to take our rights. Those that don’t respect our liberties. Those that get out there and promote these anti-gun bills to try to keep law-abiding citizens as victims, not defenders. These are the people that are basically giving the finger to the Bruen decision and our Second Amendment. For over 50 years, we had a carry permit law that only allowed the elites to have carry licenses, less than 600 in the whole state. With the elimination of the elitist protection element called “justifiable need”, now your average law-abiding citizen can qualify by getting training and meeting the requirements of good character to get a carry license. Evan Nappen 03:05 They have embarked on creating a giant monstrosity of a gun ban hidden in a cloak of a claim of “public safety”, to somehow try to get around the fact that they can no longer use the justifiable need to keep the elites as the only ones that can have carry permit. As a matter of fact, since the Bruen decision, the State Police say there have been 300,000 applications for carry licenses already in New Jersey, and it has just been a number of months. So, you can see they can’t stand that law-abiding citizens have the nerve, the audacity, to want to carry and have the most effective means of self-defense against crime. Especially against rampant crime in a “defund the police” age. We can’t have citizens defend themselves. You must be a victim. This is their effort to continue that tradition. It’s also combined with the very historical tradition of Jim Crow by Southern Democrats, essentially, the Democrat historical tradition and its racist roots of gun control. I’m going to show you how that works in Page – 2 – of 8 the bill. The bill actually bans your ability to have your handgun that you have a permit to carry for in your own private vehicle. Thereby ensuring to protect carjackers from any of their activities against law-abiding citizens. I’m going to show you the actual way they are accomplishing this. Evan Nappen 05:03 So, let’s start our review of this bill. By the way, this bill does not just impact carry licensing, but they’re also put into provisions, almost like their wish list here of more gun laws to package in. New laws that will affect Permits to Purchase and Firearm ID cards as well. The rationales given up front in the bill are downright laughable. They come right out of Goebbels propaganda mill, and it is the Orwellian Ministry of Truth that styles them. For example, here’s one of the rationales right in the preface of the bill. This is me quoting this. This is what they’re saying one of the basis for their reasons is. “Previously, application of the justifiable need standard minimized the serious dangers of misuse and accidental use inherent in the carrying of handguns in a public place.” Really? Justifiable need was a requirement that individuals show that they need to carry a handgun because they themselves were facing an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death against them personally and that carrying a handgun was the only way to avert those threats. Justifiable need had absolutely nothing, zero, to do with dangers of misuse and accidental use, inherent in carrying handguns in a public place. Nothing. But that doesn’t stop us from putting a lie directly in our rationale in why we need to pass this atrocity. Evan Nappen 07:08 O

Episode 102-Warning, Warning, Warning! NJ CCW Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 102 SUMMARY KEYWORDS deny, gun, gun rights, carry permit, firearm, carry, judge, permit, law, folks, prohibited, problem, license, rights, disabilities, felons, approved, government, lawyer, pardon SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:21 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Since the Bruen decision and the ability for law-abiding, honest citizens to no longer be victims, but actually be defenders and carry the most effective means of self-defense, a firearm, in places where they never could before. New Jersey is a great example. Well, the folks that are the elitist, the gun haters, the anti-Second Amendment folks, the system itself that just doesn’t want to do anything pro-gun unless it’s done kicking and screaming, has been, of course, trying to figure out ways to thwart our liberty and ways of various mechanisms of abuse. Now, as a gun attorney, so to speak, in New Jersey as the practitioner of gun law in New Jersey, I get to see and speak to client after client and the most pressing issues and shenanigans that are taking place. Because I’m in this special position, helping individuals in real time that are facing the newest obstacles and challenges, I’m able to tell you, my great listeners, about emerging and very current threats, traps, problems and things you need to be warned about. Evan Nappen 02:18 One of those things, which has come to light very strong lately, individuals that are applying for carry permits in Bergen County. I want to explain to you how this works, and I want to get more into the weeds than you would normally get. Even have any chance of hearing about in the legacy lamestream media. They don’t even touch this stuff, but I want to explain to you what’s going on. So, you can be warned and prepared for the ambush that is being set for you now since Bruen eliminated the requirement of justifiable need to get a carry license. In New Jersey, there were three basic things you had to show prior to Bruen. Three basic things that would get you a carry permit. The three things were – number one, that you were of good character and not subject to the disabilities of N.J.S 2C:58-3. Now those disabilities are the list of disqualifiers: you’re not a felon, you’re not a domestic violence abuser, you don’t have a restraining order, you don’t have any mental health commitments, etc. That’s the disabilities under 2C:58-3. You have to show you’re not subject. The state investigation will do your background check and will then be evaluated by your Chief of Police or Superintendent depending on where you are applying. So, that’s the first requirement. Evan Nappen 04:20 The second requirement is that you show that you are safe and qualified for the handling of the firearm. To meet that requirement, you need to pass the course by trainers, have the correct training and demonstration of your proficiency. That’s more or less objectively accomplished as well. The third thing Page – 2 – of 7 was “justifiable need” and that’s what basically stopped everybody because “justifiable need” was so outrageous and so extreme. A test where you had to show that you were personally subjected to threats of serious bodily harm or injury, you personally, and that carrying a handgun was necessary to avert those threats. It was such a high standard and so virtually impossible to achieve. You basically had to show you needed to use deadly force before you needed to use deadly force. So, if you’ve just been shot and killed, well, now you qualify for a carry license. Congratulations. Now that was eliminated by Bruen. So, we’re left with two criteria to get you a carry. Are you a person of good character and not subject to the disabilities? Do you have the adequate training? Evan Nappen 05:43 Now you need to understand that the 2C:58-3 disabilities that are under the carry license law, the carry permit, are the exact 2C:58-3 disqualifiers for getting a New Jersey Firearm Purchaser ID card and a pistol purchase permit. So, the disqualifiers under 58-3 are the same disqualifiers for a Firearms ID Card, pistol purchase, permit, and Permit to Carry a handgun. So, you might rationally say, well, look, I’ve had my Firearms ID card that was granted, and I’ve had pistol purchase permits. Obviously, I’m not prohibited under 58-3. I did my approved certification qualification, met the standard. And I submit for my carry, which does have a few other bureaucratic hurdles, like three pages, double-sided, that have to each be individually filled out, each signed three times by you and your three witnesses, and notarized three times, and you need to submit a photo that is 1.5 by 1.5, not the normal 2 by 2. For some reason, New Jersey decided to adopt the Argentine

Episode 101-Annoying Hollywood Sound Effects Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 101 SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun, firearm, guns, revolver, law, florio, credit card companies, new jersey, possession, legacy, gun laws, criminals, lawyer, gun owner, crime, sound, people, gun lobby, credit card, penalty SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi! I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Hey, you know what I find really annoying. I tell you as a gun person, and I know most of my listeners are gun people. Don’t you love that like being a gun person? Like you’re walking around, and you look like a gun. No. People that love guns like you and me. What’s really annoying is we’re watching some Hollywood movie, some action movie, and the movie is not bad, you know, enjoying it. Then next thing you know, there’s some dumb gun sound that they’re dubbing in. It just ruins it because you know guns. Next thing you know, you hear this stupid gun sound. I’ll give you a great example. I can’t tell you how many times, every time they roll a cylinder. I mean, they open a revolver cylinder. Open it, swing it out, spin it, and it goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Yeah, like it’s like a gaming wheel at the boardwalk or something. I mean, folks, as you know, there’s no ratcheting sound on swing open cylinders. Okay, they love to add the ratchet sound. They’re always spinning the cylinder and making it ratchet. When the only cylinder that’s doing that at all is a single action on a half cock, and you’re turning it. And that’s it. But every time they have a double action revolver, you hear that brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr? Constantly. It’s like, stop. It’s silent. Come on, keep it real. But no, they gotta throw that in. Evan Nappen 02:06 I’ll tell you what else. Anytime anybody raises a rifle from low ready, you know, they lifted up, and it sounds like a tin can full of screws, every time. Racketracketracketracket. Like, you know, guns just don’t make noise when you point them straight. At least it shouldn’t be. They are pretty quiet. You lift it up. It’s quiet. But man, every time they show guns raised, all you hear is ratchetytat, ratchetytat, ratchetytat. The whole bit. It’s like, come on. It’s not what happens. You know, what’s most amazing really is a lot of Americans, a huge number of Americans, own guns. At least a third of America owns guns. America as a country is not gun stupid. I’m not the only one hearing this stuff and going, uhk, you had to ruin the movie by throwing in stupid gun sounds that don’t happen. Come on. They think, well, the general public doesn’t know and maybe there’s a bunch that don’t know. But so what? We do know. Don’t do that. Stop with the racket attacks, the ratcheting sounds and the gun actions. Evan Nappen 03:34 Every time they have a shotgun, it gets racked. Every time. You only have to rack it once and then it’s loaded. No, but every time you’re lifting, you’re pointing, you’re moving. Man, that rackets ratchet ratchet ratchet to the shotgun rack rack rack every time. You only had to do it once. You already racked Page – 2 – of 7 it before you walked through the door. There is already a round in there. Yet by the time that scene is over, the guy has racked it six more times. You don’t even have any ammo left in it. He’s racked it and hasn’t even fired it yet. I mean, it’s goofy as can be. Just stop. I’m sure many of you have heard this and just shook your head said come on. I mean, it’s right up there when it comes to sound effects. If you have shot suppressed firearms, you know they don’t sound like pssst, pssst, the whisper. You know what it sounds like. It sure doesn’t sound like what Hollywood makes it sound like. You watch these movies and go they are so stupid. How many times have you seen a revolver with a suppressor, and you go oh, come on, cut it out. Stop putting silencers on revolvers, unless it’s a very rare specific revolver. It isn’t by the way. You can’t effectively suppress the revolver. It just isn’t real good at that. But man don’t put little teeny suppressors on snub nose .38s and it sounds like a whisper, pssst, pssst. Just laugh. They’re idiots. We know the truth. Evan Nappen 05:18 They’ve got to stop it. How many times is the firearm. They have the best guns that never need to be reloaded. Did you ever notice that? They just keep shooting and shooting and shooting. They got endless ammo. They make large, so-called large capacity, magazines look puny? The amount of ammo these things hold and just keeps on going and going and going. It’s great. I guess it’s because they never run out of the sound effects for firing. That must be what it is. They can keep plugging in more

Episode 100- Craziest Gun Bill in NJ … and that’s sayin’ somethin’ Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 100 SUMMARY KEYWORDS exemption, places, exempt, new jersey, prohibited, bill, firearm, courthouses, gun, banned, law, armed, facility, lawyer, include, subsection, folks, protect, barred, handgun SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well, folks, this is the 100th show. The 100th Gun Lawyer show. I’m very proud of the show. We’ve been able to do 100 shows and have such great, loyal and dedicated listeners such as yourself. Today’s show, the 100th show, is absolutely astounding, and it is hot off the press right now. What I’m talking about is the most insane gun bill ever proposed in New Jersey, and it is hands down this bill. Its implications are absolutely nuts. It’s a bill that has been put forward by two Democrats, and it’s the Assembly Bill 4502. You can read it for yourself. (https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4502) It was put forward by Assemblywoman (Mila M.) Jasey, who is district 27, Essex and Morris, and Assemblywoman (Ellen J. ) Park of Bergen in district 37. Evan Nappen 01:42 This bill is what the most ridiculous, poorly thought out, bill that just demonstrates their absolute lack of understanding of the Second Amendment, our rights, the gun laws in New Jersey, and how any of this works. It will create such a mess. I can’t even quantify it. It’s so bad. Let me tell you what this bill will do, without a doubt, is absolutely protect mass murderers, terrorists and violent criminals. As a matter of fact, that’s what it should be called. The Mass Murderer, Terrorist and Violent Criminal Protection Act. Because this bill, and it says it right in the statement, is put forward because of the Bruen decision. The idea is to maximize and create the most number of so-called “sensitive places” where you are banned from possessing a handgun. Evan Nappen 02:51 Now remember, not just carry, but even possession because we do not have a carry law. We have a possession law that you then get a carry license to not be unlawfully in possession. Their failure to understand the dynamics of how this law even works is absolutely expressed in this bill with perfection. To show the idiocy of these people, it is an outrage. What the bill does is it prohibits, even if you have a carry permit, from having a handgun in any of the following places. In a nutshell, and I’m going to go into detail, it includes synagogues, mosques and churches. We are talking about individuals that are lawful licensed persons that have permits to carry. Remember when you have a permit to carry from New Jersey, you have been certified that you are trained, you know how to shoot, and you know the law. Page – 2 – of 7 Evan Nappen 04:06 It is certification as a requirement to even get this license. You are vetted more thoroughly than police officers are in terms of the background check. And you’re approved by this not once but twice. By the chief law enforcement officer that you apply to and then by a Superior Court judge. This is what you go through to get to a carry license. These individuals are being prohibited from all these places that you will not believe how bad it is. Furthermore, keep in mind that permit holders include not just law-abiding average citizens, but also security guards. Armed security guards have carry permits, and they too are banned and barred. There’s no exemption for armed security guards. So, every one of these places that we’re going to discuss not only are law-abiding citizens banned from possession of handguns, but even armed security is banned from possession of handguns. Even a slew of law enforcement is banned from possessing handguns in these places. These places include, synagogues, mosques, churches, parks, playgrounds, recreational areas, public transportation, public gatherings, hospitals, nursing homes and similar facilities, youth sporting events, restaurants where alcohol is served, etc. It’s insanity. Evan Nappen 06:00 Let’s take a good look at this bill, folks. First of all, it establishes as following, that any person who knowingly has in his possession a firearm in any of these venues is guilty of a Fourth-Degree crime, which is 18 months in state prison. A felony level offense. Whether the person possesses a valid permit to carry a firearm issued pursuant to (N.J.S. 2C:)58-4, which is the carry licensing statute, or not. This includes educational facilities, which has been a prohibition even before, but they have expanded the educational facilities now to include public or private daycare centers, or any other educational facility serving young children. Public or private, folks, is now included. It also includes the following: any part of a building or grounds of a private

Episode 99-What’s It Like To Be A Gun Lawyer? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 99 SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun laws, firearm, gun, fight, law, ban, second amendment, lawyer, new jersey, people, criminals, semi, freedom, evan, case, rights, individuals, challenge, anti, gun owner SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Do you know what it’s like to be a Gun Lawyer? Well, I’ve been practicing gun law, focused my entire practice on gun law for 35 years, mainly New Jersey gun law. Of course, New Jersey is one of the craziest states to practice gun law because there’s no shortage of insanity in a state like New Jersey with its wacky gun laws. As a gun lawyer, I’ve found it very rewarding because the calling is to defend the Second Amendment, defend our right to keep and bear arms, and defend law-abiding citizens that simply want to exercise their rights and their freedom. It’s amazing how much resistance there is from the Government. Those in the Government with agendas that are contrary to freedom and our rights. Evan Nappen 01:29 Those are the fights that I’ve always enjoyed the most. Fighting for all our Constitutional rights. Fighting for freedom. Fighting for due process. These fights can be very rewarding because you can actually, at times, I know this may be shocking, you can actually see the system work. You can actually see it work. The ability to save people from these draconian and horrible gun laws that turn law-abiding citizens not just into criminals but can ruin their lives. I mean bona fide ruin their lives with simple, silly crap. We’re talking about New Jersey. A state where possession of a slingshot is a felony level offense. If you are charged with a gun law violation, and it’s any of these simple, unlawful possession of a handgun, possession of a so-called, dreaded assault firearm. Now, these made-up terms for these, made up definitions that have no impact on crime, but it affects law-abiding citizens who are looking at serious, minimum mandatory jail time. Crazy treatment through the system. Your entire life and career, your freedom, your family, your hopes and dreams get destroyed by New Jersey, and you become what I call a victim of gun laws, particularly New Jersey gun laws. It’s really a career dedicated to defending folks from being victimized by gun laws that absolutely violate the Constitution and Second Amendment. Fighting to save individuals on an individual level one by one, while challenging the laws themselves. Evan Nappen 03:44 It’s a way to make the things that you studied in law school, when you studied Constitutional rights, when you studied how to make these motions, and how to operate in our adversarial system, so that you can help good people get saved. Because the folks that I represent are law- abiding criminals. That’s a joke, but it’s true. In other words, they are not people who have done something that is evil in Page – 2 – of 6 itself, what they call a malum in se. Instead, they violated a malum prohibitum. Something that’s been made illegal because a bunch of politicians decided that they didn’t like this particular item and the people who own it. So that they can go after the anti-constituency that they have. To turn those people into felons so they lose their voting ability and lose their rights. To disenfranchise individuals from their gun rights for the entire country. Because if you are convicted of possession of a slingshot and even if you pay a $10 fine, you are now a convicted felon. Well, you’re now prohibited anywhere in the United States as a convicted felon under federal law from possessing any firearms or ammunition. So, that’s the game. Evan Nappen 05:23 In the meantime, they can lock you away in state prison for years and just destroy your life. They are able to express their hatred for you and me in this way and take it out on us. That’s where you see law after law passed in New Jersey, despite the Proclamations from the Supreme Court about it being an individual right, and needs to be respected and needs to have the right looked at broadly, for the individual in the same way that we would look at speech, freedom of speech, or freedom of exercise of religion, or even our other due process rights. But that’s not how it goes in New Jersey, particularly. It’s a constant wave in the opposite direction that you fight as a gun lawyer. It’s a really good fight. It’s an important fight, and it’s one that I enjoy. Evan Nappen 06:28 But I have to tell you now lately, it’s been enormous in growth in this fight. Because of all the anti- gun laws that Murphy has passed. Two huge packages of more anti-gun laws that create insanity. Banning things that were never banned before and creating criminals out of thin air. Creating things wh

Episode 98-New Ammunition Bans and Prohibitions Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 98 SUMMARY KEYWORDS ammunition, gun, law, new jersey, firearms, exemptions, carry permit, handgun, carry, guns, gun laws, anti, preemptively, permit, tracer, lawyer, home, evan, handgun ammunition, license SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:22 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I love getting these letters from the listeners. They raise excellent questions, and I always enjoy answering them. I know that it helps to protect you the listener, which is my goal here. I want to make sure you know what the laws are so that you don’t become a victim of New Jersey gun laws. And man, they are victimizing people left and right. may get into that later about some of the latest. But I have a letter here, and this is from Tauan. He says regarding Governor Murphy’s sweeping gun safety package. Evan, could you talk more about ammo regulation in general, under A1302. Thanks for everything regards, Tauan. Evan Nappen 01:21 Well, I am happy to do that, Tauan, because ammunition regulation is important here in our right to keep and bear arms. It’s one thing to be able to have guns, but they’re not much use if you can’t have ammunition. So, the antis have not limited their focus to simply regulating guns. They have, of course, taken on ammunition and tried to do their dirty work on ammo as well. Now in New Jersey, just generally speaking about ammunition, there is certain ammunition that is prohibited and then given an exemption. We’ve talked about it before, how hollow nose, hollow point, ammunition is regulated, and how it’s legal but narrowly legal. You can go from place of purchase to your home. You can have it in your home. You can have it at a target range and going between those places. But if you have it outside of that, also while hunting is okay. Evan Nappen 02:37 But outside of that, you’re looking at unlawful possession of hollow nose. It’s a fourth-degree felony level offense, and you’re looking at 18 months in state prison per bullet. So, it can be a bit tricky, and you want to stay narrowly within exemptions on hollow nose. There’s also a prohibition on armor piercing ammunition, but the definition of armor piercing is in conformance with the federal definition now. Essentially, I really don’t ever see, I’ve yet to get, in 35 years of practicing gun law in New Jersey, I’ve yet to actually have a legitimate charge or case of someone possessing actual armor piercing ammunition because it has to be primarily for handgun. Evan Nappen 03:33 Page – 2 – of 8 Armor piercing ammo for handgun has been federally regulated, and NJ law mirrors the federal reg. You would have to have some of that super rare like KTW Teflon-coated stuff from way back that you just happened to buy before the Feds changed their own laws on it. I just haven’t encountered it. I’m sure it’s out there, but good grief. You would think the way the antis play up armor piercing that every handgun contains it that any bad guy ever possessed, but it’s actually pretty rare. So, on armor piercing and hollow nose, that is the law. Essentially, you’re banned from possessing armor piercing, and you’re not completely banned from hollow nose. Evan Nappen 04:31 There’s also regulation regarding incendiary ammunition, and in New Jersey it’s lawful to possess incendiary ammunition, ammunition tracer, ammunition tracer rounds, but it’s unlawful to use them. So, if you’re firing tracer ammunition, then you could be in for a criminal charge on that. Now there are certain exempted tracer ammo. Tracer ammo that does not use a burning, flaming or flaring that type of ammo, but that’s out there for shotgun patterning and such. It’s more of a special brightly colored, or somehow otherwise illuminated shot that is not done by anything using heat or fire. That’s not prohibited, but tracer that you might find in military surplus, that is prohibited for use. Plus, even if you are wanting to shoot tracer, which is again prohibited, it’s not the greatest thing for your barrel by the way. Tracer is known to be somewhat corrosive and destructive of the barrel. So, it’s really not the best thing to be shooting anyway. Evan Nappen 05:58 But now we enter into a new dimension with ammunition. Other than those regulated areas that we just discussed, which New Jersey has been famous for, particularly their hollow nose, where they want to impose that we only have high penetration ammunition on the street. So, make sure it goes through the target to hit innocent bystanders, I guess. They want to make sure it’s high penetration. Now with carry licensing, carry licensees do not have an exemption to have hollow nose. There is no exemption for hollow nose. Even if you have a ca

Episode 97-The Raging Pork Roll Debate, A Legal Perspective Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 97 SUMMARY KEYWORDS justifiable, new jersey, law, carry permit, carry, license, gun, new york, court, second amendment, exemption, pork, firearms, resident, folks, ham, restricted, gun rights, roll, restrictions SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Today, we’re going to discuss an extremely important topic. One that has come up recently and even on another gun podcast. A good friend of mine, Anthony Colandro, on Gun for Hire podcast, I heard my name was mentioned, brought in, dragged into this important debate. I’m going to enter into this debate, maybe against my better judgment, but I feel it has to be addressed. And that is, “Is it Pork Roll or Taylor Ham? This needs to be covered from a legal perspective. That is the perspective that I’m going to give you. I understand this debate, and I have authority to speak from this. Why? Because I have eaten a lot of pork roll, and I’m from New Jersey. So, I know what I’m talking about. This isn’t some pie in the sky person who’s never tasted the deliciousness of that product. No, it is the finest breakfast meat you can possibly get, regardless of what you call it. For a fact it is, and it is a classic of all classics. I mean pork roll, egg, and cheese on a hard roll. Are you kidding me? Nothing even comes close. Evan Nappen 01:39 Now I call it pork roll, egg, and cheese on a hard roll. Now let me just tell you, I grew up, born and raised, in Monmouth County. Now Monmouth County is actually Central Jersey. So, you can go even more south from Monmouth County to Ocean County, and you have Central Jersey Rifle and Pistol Club. Even that is considered Central Jersey. Now some folks say oh no, you’re below the river so it’s South Jersey. But no, it’s really, Monmouth I think is the truest Central Jersey of Central Jersey places. Right in the center, you got it. Dead center. So, I feel I have that neutrality going for me a little bit there in this important debate. Because I’m from Central Jersey. I’m not officially from North Jersey and not officially from South Jersey, and I get it. I know North Jerseyeans say it’s Taylor Ham, Taylor Ham, and South Jersey it’s Pork Roll. Pork Roll. But I’m going to tell you what I call it – Pork Roll – because legally, that is its name. Evan Nappen 02:45 Now you may say how can that legally be the same? It’s not simply that Pork Roll is its legal name but calling it Taylor Ham is illegal. Did you know that it actually is illegal? So, all you North New Jerseyeans that call it Taylor Ham is breaking the FDAs rule and law because you see this product was originally called Taylor Ham. And I’m totally cool with that. It originally was called Taylor Ham. But lo and behold, the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, this is the F D A law in 1906. What happened was, it was being marketed, and the Feds came down on it. The Feds said Hey, you cannot call it ham because it’s not Page – 2 – of 8 ham, and you’re violating the law, the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, by calling it ham. So, it had to be changed, and it was changed to Taylor’s Pork Roll. Some even marketed it as Trenton Pork Roll, too. There were other similar products at the time, believe it or not, and this was all about calling it Pork Roll and believe it or not, the legal name, which should resolve the issue, folks. It should resolve it. I know it won’t. I know it won’t. I’m sure that North Jerseyans are going to continue to break the law and call it Taylor Ham. Evan Nappen 04:59 But I have to tell you, don’t do that. Because the way things are going with gun permits under New Jersey law, there is a threat to public health, safety, welfare. This danger to public health, safety, welfare, and it’s getting more and more broadly interpreted. If it can be shown in court that you are illegally calling it Taylor Ham, in blatant violation and disrespect of the law, I know there are judges in New Jersey, that that’s all they need. That’s all they need to say, no, sir, you will lose your gun rights for violating the law and calling it Taylor Ham. You don’t want to take that risk. Do not take that risk of losing your gun licenses and permits and being declared a danger under NJS 58-3(c) for breaking the Federal law on what you identify your breakfast meet as. And don’t tell me that, too, is absurd. Because it’s not. It’s New Jersey. Nothing is too absurd in New Jersey, and I can well see it. Especially a judge in South Jersey. You broke this law by posting some meme, some social media thing, and calling it Taylor Ham, your license is going to be gone, you won’t have a chance. You will not have a chance. So

Episode 96-Is The “Bug-A-Salt” Gun a Firearm in NJ? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 96 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, salt, new jersey, bug, national reciprocity, gun laws, states, gun, carry, fired, air, guns, gun rights, license, second amendment, constitutional carry, pellet, law, question, person SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi. I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. I have a fun fact for everyone today. I have been working a lot on New Jersey gun laws and such. I have the following to report, and it is absolutely true. Do you know that New Jersey gun laws are actually four times the size of the Communist Manifesto? That is a fact. That is how many gun laws we have. We have four times the amount of gun laws than it took for Karl Marx to write his manifesto that brought misery to millions and millions over years and years and is still dogging us to this day. That’s right. But New Jersey has succeeded in having four times the amount of words as appears in the Communist Manifesto. I think that’s quite a statement. Evan Nappen 01:20 It’s really one of the key problems that we have in New Jersey and for that matter, all throughout the United States is that there are so many infringements on what “shall not be infringed” that we have essentially lost count. The old estimate used to be there were 20,000 infringements nationwide, but I’m sure that is probably five times that figure by now at least in terms of infringements. Now, on the good news, I think with the reinvigoration of the Second Amendment, and with the Bruen case that we’ve discussed, we are going to see these infringements be attacked left and right. They already are. We should see them fall, and we should see tremendous progress. It’s going to take a lot of time. It took a lot of time to get us to this sorry, state of affairs, and it’s not something that with a magic wand, it’s just going to go away. We have been given a very substantial tool to do that. Evan Nappen 02:36 But it is astounding, as to how many gun laws there are, and how these gun laws have no effect on crime. It’s just a constant lie and an anti-gun narrative to disarm us and to take away our rights. It is just triggered by emotion. It’s fueled by emotion. It’s passed based on emotion. Then we’re left to sort it out, and those that suffer are the law-abiding that get caught in its vicious traps. New Jersey not only has some of the worst, if not in my opinion, the worst, but also it is so extreme in its approach, its penalties, and its enforcement that the Jersey is by far the worst scenario in America. It just wins the prize, for sure. Evan Nappen 03:53 Along those lines, I have gotten an interesting email question that was sent to me, and I want to talk about it in depth because it really shows just how effed up New Jersey is. Now let’s remember we’re Page – 2 – of 8 talking about a state that makes possession of a slingshot, a felony level offense. We’ve discussed just how unbelievably bad the gun laws are to try to follow and understand, how they are applied so unfairly, and how the system is essentially rigged to disenfranchise all of us of our gun rights. In New Jersey, there is no gun offense that’s lower than a felony level offense. I use that term felony level even though New Jersey calls them crimes. I like to call them felony level offenses. It makes it clear what we’re talking about. We’re talking about offenses that make individuals barred from exercising their gun rights anywhere in America. As a convicted felon under federal law, you become a prohibited person throughout the United States. Federal law does not care one bit that you lost your gun rights because you had the nerve to possess a sling shot in New Jersey. It still counts, and you become disenfranchised and a prohibited person and lose your Second Amendment rights. Evan Nappen 05:37 My whole practice is dedicated to defending what I lovingly call law-abiding criminals because the laws have turned these individuals into criminals. They’re attempting to make it permanent on them by destroying their lives, their hopes, their dreams, their finances, their families, and their careers, you know, the whole job. And I realized that it’s really funded and fueled, not by some noble purpose, or even some misguided thought that this could do something about crime, it really boils down to folks just hating us, hating guns, and hating gun owners. That hatred is expressed through the laws that they pass, because there is no rational basis here. Oh, they’ll put forward their narrative and make claims that it somehow is in public interest, but the reality is that it never is. We know it, and we see it. It is something that we have to not give up, and we have to fight. Evan Nappen 06:52 So, here’s a letter that

Episode 95-Dealing with NJ Carry Permit Delays and Issues Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 95 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, problem, serial number, law, delays, lawyer, gun laws, constitution, new jersey, application, strikeforce, gun, gun owners, guns, transporting, state, justices, handgun, jersey, judges SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:20 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you know, folks, I have been representing law-abiding criminals now for basically 35 years, and I’ve seen themes repeat. The thing about themes that repeat is you need to learn from this stuff. And I gotta tell you, just recently, I had a case, a guy called up, and I’m saying to myself, oh, God, the fundamentals. I want to share with you the mistake, so you can learn from others mistakes. It’s critical. Evan Nappen 01:08 So, what do we have? We have a guy who came from another state, visiting relatives here, and brings his guns that are legal for him in another state. Brings them to his parents’ house here in Jersey, where he’s not a resident. One of the guns is a modern Sporting Rifle, known as, in the world of the anti-gun propagandist, an assault firearm. He had some ammunition that was hollow nose ammunition and his handgun. His handgun had a problem Murphy mag in it, and even having the handgun, there is no exemption at your parents’ house when you came from out of state. Evan Nappen 02:17 And what happens? Well, there’s a dispute between him and an ex-girlfriend that he knew, and there was no violence or anything, but it doesn’t matter. Call the police. And lo and behold, he was not at the house. He was not where this all took place. Remember, he lives in another state. So, the police make inquiries, even though it hadn’t even gone yet to a domestic violence restraining order or a domestic violence complaint. They were investigating, and the girl made allegations against him. But there was skepticism, I guess, on their part. Anyway, they wanted to hear both sides. So, lo and behold, he’s read his Miranda rights. Actually, read his Miranda before they question. And what does he do? He talks, and he tells them everything. Evan Nappen 03:32 I asked him, you know, you told them that you had guns, where you came from, all this stuff. Nothing about the problem with the allegations she was making, because he’s innocent of all that. He didn’t have any problem. But he’s talking and talking, and I said, look, you were read your Miranda rights. I always have to ask this because it just drives me nuts. You were read Miranda where the police say, you have a right to remain silent. Anything you say, can and will be held against you. You have a right to an attorney, blah, blah, blah, right. You are read those rights, and I said you were read them? Yes, I Page – 2 – of 8 was. And you still decided to talk? Yes. Why? Why? Ready for the answer, folks? Because I’ve heard this many, many, many times. The answer he said was because I didn’t do anything wrong. I didn’t do anything wrong. Let me just tell you, I get why you might think you didn’t do anything wrong. And that’s because you’re basically a law-abiding person. You don’t ever intentionally do things wrong. You know that the BS that the other person was saying was just that – BS. And you believe, firmly, you didn’t do anything wrong. Evan Nappen 05:08 The problem is, as far as New Jersey law is concerned, you not only did something arguably wrong, but committed, in New Jersey’s eyes, offenses that are insane in their seriousness, draconian beyond belief. We are talking about 10 years in State Prison, and a minimum mandatory three and a half years for possession of what Jersey calls an “assault firearm”. Three and a half years, no chance of parole is the minimum, best sentence you can receive. We are talking about a presumption against release so that you will be held the entire time pending your trial in jail with no release. We are talking about another charge on the handgun of up to 10 years in State Prison and three and a half years minimum mandatory, no chance to parole. We are talking about one and a half years for every hollow nose bullet you had, and one and a half years on the mag that held over 10. That’s what you’re facing because “you did nothing wrong.” And you thought it was a good idea to talk after being read Miranda. Evan Nappen 06:49 Because if nothing was said, there would have been no basis for anything further, anything having to do with guns because you didn’t even live in New Jersey, and there was no search taking place. But once you admitted to this, now you gave the probable cause for the search. Now you’ve laid it out for these charges. Now you have totally effed yourself by talking because you didn’t do anything wrong. And that&

Episode 94- The Troy A4- A Legal Minefield? Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 94 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, new jersey, gun, state, charged, rifle, home, law, meaning, police, gun laws, hollow, presumption, pistol, ammunition, lawyer, unlawful possession, assault, legal, definition SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, just this week, I got a case that came in, and it’s a case that I think a lot of us can learn from. It really illustrates the problems and makes it clear what we’re still dealing with in New Jersey. This case involves my client who possessed a firearm similar to a Troy A4. I don’t know if you’re familiar with the Troy A4, but the Troy A4 is lawfully sold in New Jersey pursuant to a State Police letter that evaluated it and said it was okay. You can see this State Police letter online. You can even go to the Troy website (https://techopsinternational.com/troy-a4-other-firearm/) where they talk about the gun being Jersey legal. Evan Nappen 01:23 They have this letter as well and what the letter says is very interesting. Because it says that in reference to the request submitted to review the following firearm and determine legality. So, they looked at the Troy A4, and they said that it is designed and manufactured as a “firearm” as defined by the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968. They then proceed, they being the State Police, to determine where this firearm falls under New Jersey law. The letter first reviews the definition of firearm, which does include any gun which may be fired by means of a cartridge. Then they look at the definition of handgun, and they have underlined “originally designed or manufactured to be fired by the use of a single hand.” Then a rifle which is a firearm, and they underline here, “designed to be fired from the shoulder.” And then a sawed-off shotgun means a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches or a rifle having a barrel less than 16 inches. Evan Nappen 02:41 So, they are looking at all the appropriate laws and that is correct. Then they look at Title 13, (Law and Public Safety) Chapter 54, which is the Admin Code, and then further at N.J.S. 2C:39-1 where the definition of assault firearm is found. As you may know, assault firearm is a complex five-part definition. The first part is a laundry list of about 67 named guns. Then in conjunction with that, there was an Attorney General opinion that in the Admin Code, they consolidate the opinion into the code, even though it’s not found in the statute. So, it got put into the Admin Code in that manner. But it does talk about “substantially identical”, and what does that mean. Then they put forward the 1996 Attorney General opinion that was codified into the Admin Code, not into law now, specifically statutes, but into the Code where it talks about semi-automatic rifles that have the ability to accept a detachable magazine and that has at least two of the following offending features. So, if you have a rifle and it Page – 2 – of 8 accepts a detachable magazine, then a claim can be made that it is substantially identical if it has two (2) of the following features. If it only has one, then it’s not prohibited, but if it has two or more, then it is. Those features are: a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, a bayonet mount, a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor or a grenade launcher. Evan Nappen 04:40 Now these are some interesting offending features. I know that a lot of you are going out grenade launching this weekend. I hope you have a good time doing that. Now of course that’s ridiculous. A bayonet mount is an offending feature? I always loved that. Like, what does that have to do with anything? What is it because of all the drive-by bayonetings? I mean, why is it even on the list, but it doesn’t matter. There’s no logic, of course. New Jersey banned logic in 1979 I guess, so don’t go arguing logic. This is the list. That’s what it is. It’s codified from the AG opinion that was grabbed from the 1994 Federal law, basically the ’94 crime bill. I like to say the bill that was a crime. Evan Nappen 05:21 And somehow that applied to New Jersey, the Federal law into and through the state of the state law with substantially identical meeting definitions. So, they grabbed the Federal law, which was not enacted by New Jersey, and then adopted it. Now, of course, the Federal law itself is grandfathered and has been gone since 2004. But it lives on in New Jersey. The New Jersey’s definition of assault firearm as stated. So, the State Police looked at the definition of assault firearm, they looked at these things, and then they take a look at the Troy A4 and also letters from BATF in the

Episode 93-The New Hidden Backdoor Gun Ban Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 93 SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, gun, killing, weapon, new jersey, people, state, covered, law, judge, semi, prosecuted, lawyer, carry permit, business, exemption, hearing, mass shooters, circumstances, evan SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:21 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Today I want to explore expose to you, what is really just absolutely a backdoor sinister Democrat plot to take away our gun rights and particularly attack semi-automatic firearms. It is being sold in one package and what it actually does is pretty outrageous. I’m going to make sure you understand what’s going on because I haven’t seen anybody actually explain or pick up on the bona fide danger that I’m talking about. So, what we have is a bill that’s been proposed that, and they always make it sound so wonderful. It’s called the Mass Shooter Prosecution Act of 2022. Well, gee, who wouldn’t want to prosecute mass shooters? Right. It’s proposed by Representative Moulton, a Democrat from Massachusetts, and Representative Veronica Escobar, a Democrat from Texas. Evan Nappen 01:44 This Mass Shooter Prosecution Act, on its face, claims that they want to bring terrorism charges against shooters, who use what the anti-gunners refer to as assault weapons, which is their made-up term for modern sporting rifles, and what is generally referred to as semi-automatic firearms. What they’re doing is they’re laying out the groundwork here to go after what they’re referring to as the material support networks. We are going to get into this bill and what it says. Whoever helps these attackers to carry out these vicious assaults. I highly recommend checking out AmmoLand (sic) Breitbart News Network where I saw this initial article. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/02/house-democrats-push-terrorism-charges-mass-shooters-using-ar-15s/ It is an excellent article on this, and it’s written by a great gun writer AWR Hawkins, and the article is House Democrats Push Terrorism Charges for Mass Shooters Using AR15s. Yes, that is what it does, but it actually does incredibly more, so much so that it really is designed to take out the industry and the manufacturers. I’m going to show you how they do it. Evan Nappen 03:32 Here’s this bill that’s being sold as this terrorism for stopping and preventing and prosecuting mass shooters. If you go to the bill, you can find it online – https://moulton.house.gov/imo/media/doc/mass_shooter_prosecution_act_2022.pdf, the bill is known as the Mass Shooters Prosecution Act of 2022. And what it says specifically, is they are adding to the definition in the list of federal laws under the heading of what is terrorism. They’re adding this new law that says mass killings, using machine guns or covered semi-automatic weapons. What the law says is “(a) Whoever kills three or more people in a single incident using a machinegun or a covered Page – 2 – of 7 semiautomatic weapon in a circumstance described in subsection (b), shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.” Evan Nappen 04:58 So, this law makes it a terrorism crime to kill three or more people in a single incident, and the covered semiautomatic weapons, we’re going to deal with as to what they are covering. But keep in mind, what I just read you is the offense. There’s nothing in this offense that says anything about whether one is justified or not, in killing three or more people with a semiautomatic covered weapon. In other words, Kyle Rittenhouse, who killed two people and seriously injured a third person, first of all, if the third person had been killed then plainly, he could be prosecuted as committing an act of terror here because it doesn’t matter about whether there’s justification for the killing. Even if the third party didn’t die, there may even be an attempt at terrorism, an attempt we’ll call inchoate crime, a crime where it’s not complete, but almost was, and that’s still a crime. Either way, it opens up for this issue of the killing, even though there are certain persons that need killing. In other words, the ones that are trying to kill you. The ones where you’re justified in using deadly force. None of that is addressed here. But that doesn’t even matter as to the bigger picture that we’re talking about. Evan Nappen 06:43 Because what are the circumstances that they’re referring to? Whenever somebody kills three people, maybe in this circumstances list, we’ll find something that maybe narrows this down to actual terrorist acts only and having to have that kind of intent. But no, lo and behold, when you look at the circumstances that count, (1) is if the mail or any facility of interstate foreign commerce was used in the

Episode 92- How Guns Can Help You WIN The Lottery Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 92 SUMMARY KEYWORDS gun, magazine, jackpot, voted, lawyer, played, blocked, firearm, ball, trifecta, mags, democrats, bet, republicans, technique, numbers, hit, evan, passed, lottery SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:00 Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Well, I have some exciting news that I want to share. And that is I won the Mega Millions lottery on July 26. That is absolutely true. I was able to pick four out of the five balls and the jackpot ball, and I won $66,000. Now, of course, I’m very happy about that. But the reason I’m talking about it on Gun Lawyer, other than I love bragging about it, is because I won it by picking Smith and Wesson revolver models. That’s right. I played my favorite Smith and Wesson model revolver numbers, and they paid off. Now, what’s interesting here and what I want to share with you, is a technique that I used to win. I’m going to explain to you what I did, so you can do it too. It enhances not only in one regard your odds of winning, although arguably you could say that would happen no matter what over this method. But I think it’s important to understand how that works. Most importantly, it increases the ability to hit the big payoff jackpots. Without a doubt. It makes payoffs, and it is a very cool technique. It’s a technique known as wheeled betting, wheeled. When I brought my tickets in to cash them, some person who had been at the lottery headquarters for many years, immediately recognized and said, oh, you did a wheeled bet. And I said, yep. She goes, boy, we haven’t seen one of those in a while. That’s great. Evan Nappen 02:27 Let me explain how wheeled betting works. It’s really interesting. If you enjoy occasionally playing the Powerball and the Mega Millions and these other lottery games, especially when the jackpots are sky high. Now, of course, this Gun Lawyer episode, we will have known the results of the $1.28 billion jackpot. That hasn’t been drawn yet. But the last jackpot was the July 26, and that’s the one that I hit on using this technique. So, let me explain. The wheeled betting technique is something that has been used a lot, particularly at the track where individuals that like to bet the trifecta have been known to use this. As some of you may be aware, the trifecta is where you bet the three winners essentially of three horse races. You get the correct on the first race, you get a correct on the second race, and you nail it on the third race. If you do that and get all three races right, the payoff is much more substantial than if you had just made individual bets on individual races with all things being equal. I mean, you can always raise bets and everything, but this is the technique. Evan Nappen 04:01 So, to understand it first from the Trifecta play is where I thought about this, and the wheeled bet technique. I applied it to the Mega Millions and to others of these games. Let’s say there are three Page – 2 – of 7 horse races, each with seven horses running and your trifecta that you’re betting on the first race. You’re betting horse number one to win. This is just to keep it easy. On the second race, you’re betting on horse number two to win. Now what you do is you buy your Trifecta ticket, and you bet horse number one for the first race, horse number two for the second race, and then horse number one for the third race. You then buy another ticket, and, on that ticket, you bet horse one for the first race, horse two for the second race, and horse two for the third race. On the next ticket, you bet horse one, second racehorse 2, and third face horse three. And what you do is you buy all seven horses as the winner of the third race. So, you’re buying seven Trifecta tickets, but each ticket has the third winner, a different horse. And what that means is that if you’re right in picking horse one and horse two, then you’re guaranteed the Trifecta, because you’ve played all seven. What’s cool about this technique is when you apply it to the lottery and to these Mega Ball and Powerball type deals, which is what I did, you can see what happens to the odds. Evan Nappen 06:02 Let’s take a look at the Mega Millions. The Mega Millions play board on the betting slip is 70 numbers in the first panel, and you have to pick five numbers out of 70 that you like. Then in the second panel on the on this single bet, you pick the jackpot bowl or the Mega Ball, and that is one to 25. So, what you do here is pick your five favorite numbers. In my case it was Smith and Wesson revolver model numbers in which I played Model 27 and 29. Of course, 27 being the premier 357 Magnum of the day that evolved from the ultimate Magnum known as the registered Magnum. I played the 29 which is the classi

Episode 91-NJ updates & Stupid Kid Tricks Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 91 Page – 1 – of 8 Gun Lawyer — Episode 91 Transcript SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, rabbit, squirrels, gun, democrats, big, gun laws, lawyer, law, carry, cannon, evan, benjamin, rights, kinds, restricted, kid, called, ban, woods SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. We’re being hit with all kinds of gun laws that are attempted to be passed. It’s kind of surprising on one hand, because here we have this great Supreme Court decision that really lays out the scope and power in the force that is the Second Amendment and the right to keep and bear arms. The response from essentially the Democrats, of course, is, who cares? Let’s push harder to pass more anti-gun laws that are absolutely unconstitutional, but let’s get them passed. That attitude is just a child having a temper tantrum. That’s what they’re doing. Evan Nappen 01:21 So, we start with New York where the Governor jams through all these other restrictions on carry. And it’s funny because lo and behold, lawsuits have begun. They just went to federal court, and the State says we need an extension, so we can reply over why our laws are so good and righteous that we passed. And the judge said, sorry, no extension, and it’s like, wow, not going to do it. You have to stay within the timeframe because this judge is going to decide it, before the law takes effect. And I’m pretty impressed because, obviously, that Judge got the message. He got the message from the Supreme Court. You know, he read the memo. And it’s not going to be tolerated like it used to be. The courts know it, and they don’t really want to be that judge that gets overturned. Evan Nappen 02:29 One of the things judges have going for them is their egos, and they don’t like being overturned. They don’t want to be told they’re wrong. They don’t want that. When it’s blatant and plain as day, they’re not going to be that one out there. Just being foolishly stubborn and set in the old ways. No, this is a new day. It’s a new day and a new dawn. And it’s going to be a wakeup call to the anti-gunners. But for the moment, they’re just going to continue in their ways of being angry little children, and the lawsuits are piling up. I just saw that California is not enforcing their magazine ban. A directive went out, at least in a major city, no more enforcement of it because they know on the GVR (Grant, Vacate, Remand) of their magazine ban and it’s not going to cut it. It’s going to be unconstitutional. Evan Nappen 03:34 For that matter, so is Jersey’s. Jersey is still enforcing their mag ban law. But they’re on their deathbed with these gun laws. Remember, the assault weapon ban of Maryland is on the chopping block. It was sent back into GVR (Grant, Vacate, Remand) as well. Yet here we have the very issue, the assault Page – 2 – of 8 weapon, so-called, contrived, made up nonsense, distinguishing upon a firearm that is untrue. Even the style guide for the writers now says you can’t call them assault weapons. You have to call them semi-automatic rifles. Even the propaganda-driven media is being forced into calling them what they are, and its simply semi-automatic rifles. The GBR (Grant, Vacate, Remand) challenge is on the ban, of course, the pejorative use of the term assault weapon, and it’s not going to be upheld. Down as dominos. We’ll see, I’m confident, Jersey’s law goes down and all the other places that have it. Evan Nappen 05:02 Yet, that doesn’t stop the Democrats in the Congress of the United States federal Government from pushing, and what will probably be passage of, a federal assault weapon ban. That’s right. The House is pushing an assault weapon ban. This is after the last one that was passed in 1994, and it went 10 years. Then it was automatically sunset in 2004. Part of that law was to study its effect. Now this is the Government’s own study that said it didn’t have any effect on crime. It had no effect. It was ineffective. But why should that stop Democrats from passing a gun law? Of course, it won’t. Just because the Supreme Court has basically said the assault firearm bans are unconstitutional. But why should that stop the Democrats from passing an assault weapon ban? None of this. It doesn’t matter. Evan Nappen 06:18 What does this tell you? This tells you that it’s not about stopping crime. It’s not about any claim of making us safer. That’s all B.S. It’s about an agenda, folks. It’s about an agenda that they have to promote, regardless of any of the facts that counter their lies, and it’s an agenda of civilian disarmament. It’s an agenda of disenfranc

Episode 90- Stupid Kid Tricks Part 1 Also Available OnPodcast TranscriptGun Lawyer Episode 90 Gun Lawyer — Episode 90 Transcript SUMMARY KEYWORDS firearm, exemptions, new jersey, gun, kids, transport, lawyer, gun laws, problem, unloaded, permit, dealer, boat, evan, shotgun, wire, fuel, curtain rod, second amendment rights, put SPEAKERS Evan Nappen, Speaker 3 Evan Nappen 00:19 I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, we’ve been doing some really heavy shows lately. There’s so much news and excitement from the impact of the Bruen case, and then the new gun laws were passed. We’ve been talking all about these things, and it’s important. It’s great to get the word out. I have some really important letters that people have written to me, and we’re going to get to that later on. But what I want to do right now, as we’re dealing with all this stuff, I want to have some fun. I like to have fun, and I’m sure you do, too. Evan Nappen 01:00 I was thinking about some fun stuff, because I was talking with some folks. I was talking about what I call stupid kid stuff. Stuff that we did as kids, that was really stupid. And luckily, as kids, we were able to do it. Hopefully, we all survived without getting maimed. I have some stories I’m going to share with you about stupid kid stuff that I did. If it inspires you about any of your stupid kid stuff, send me letters. Go right to Gun Lawyer website at www.gun.lawyer, and let me know your stupid kid adventures. I’d love to read them to folks, because it’s really entertaining. Looking back at it and saying, boy, the kids today, they’re so sheltered, they could never even do the things we did. As a matter of fact, if any of my kids tried to do the things that I did, I would be really upset with them. Evan Nappen 02:04 In my generation, the stupid kid stuff that we did involved firearms, weapons and the recreational use of explosives. That’s always what inspired kids in my generation. I remember my pals, we all had air rifles and such, and we would go in the woods and basically shoot anything that moved. And it was very, very entertaining, and it was a great time. It’s really a lot of fun. You learned to shoot really well, and it was exciting. But then I’m looking back and thinking at one time, we had a single barrel shotgun. It was an old break open, single barrel shotgun. The problem is they have a floating firing pin where the hammers on it, and unless you cocked the hammer back to the half-cocked notch, that hammer was on the pin. I remember we were so stupid as kids. We used to put a shell in, and then we’d throw the shotgun. Throw it so that the barrel would land and hit the ground and make the gun fire. When the gun fired, the shotgun would blast backwards, like a rocket. Then the fun game we had as kids was trying to grab the shotgun as it fired backwards. We were throwing it with live shells that would go off. I’m Page – 2 – of 8 looking back thinking we were idiots. We were absolutely idiots doing stuff like that. But hey, when you’re a kid, you don’t think about that. You’re indestructible. You know it. So, you do stupid stuff. Evan Nappen 03:51 One of the other things I remember as a kid that we used to do, and luckily, the statute of limitation is long gone on all this stuff. We used to make pipe bombs for fun. We used to take PVC and it was so easy when you fill it with match heads. We used to light these things off, and it was great. It was hilarity. We thought it was the best thing ever. It wouldn’t hurt anybody with it. Except one time. Well, we found something out. We figured out a weird thing. If you took an extension cord, one of the cheapos, and cut the ends off. You can split it into two wires. You can split the old extension cord. We found that if you took picture wire and you unwounded it, you had that real thin steel piece of wire. If you wrapped it around each end of the extension cord and then at the other end we hooked the extension cord to our Lionel train transformer, we cranked that baby up, and the wire would turn bright orange. It would heat a bright frickin orange. Evan Nappen 05:09 So, we got this great idea. We took our pipe bomb deals that we were making, and we wrapped a fuse around this thing. We had the wire going all the way back, and we made this little hole and put like a cardboard. We put the pipe on, and we had the wire. On top of the hole, we covered a little bit of dirt and stuff and then we put like peanuts where the squirrels would be. All the kids we hid behind the little fence, and we had the transformer all ready, waiting for the squirrel. We’re all quiet. Finally, a squirrel comes walking up. Oh, look peanuts. So, he’s eating the nut and sitting there, and we go zzzzzzttttt and turn on the transformer and we’re waiting. Well, little fizzles of smoke starte