162 - Vladimir Leshko: You Will Live Forever If You Choose To

<p>Longevity, Gene Therapy, Unlimited Bio, Próspera, Regulation, AI, Biohacking, Philosophy, Morality, Spirituality.</p> <p>-</p> <p>Timothy Allen speaks with biomedical engineer Vladimir Leshko about gene therapy, longevity, and why Próspera’s regulatory environment makes human trials possible that are effectively blocked elsewhere.</p> <p>Leshko explains how gene therapy works, why aging is a biological process rather than an inevitability, and explores the ethical, spiritual, and existential implications of choosing radically extended life in an age of AI and abundance.</p> <p>Enjoy the conversation.</p> <p>-</p> <p><strong>SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages</strong>: <a href="https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities">https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities</a></p> <p>-</p> <p>Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. <strong>Bitcoin</strong> is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.</p> <p>-</p> <p>Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:</p> <p>EP 156: <a href="https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq">https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq</a></p> <p>EP 107: <a href="https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI">https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI</a></p> <p>-</p> <ul> <li>All the Podcast Links: <a href="https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast">https://linktr.ee/FreeCitiesPodcast</a></li> <li>Free Cities Telegram Community: <a href="https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0">https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0</a></li> <li>Free Cities Conference: <a href="https://freecitiesconference.com/">https://freecitiesconference.com/</a></li> <li>Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: <a href="https://free-cities.org/subscribe">https://free-cities.org/subscribe</a></li> <li>Conference Guide to Prague: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide">https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide</a></li> </ul> <p>-</p> <p><strong>DONATE Bitcoin</strong> to the Free Cities Podcast: <strong>bc1q5jun0nzxzqepch84rqk0jnv0rd8uvns28df7mg</strong></p> <p><strong>-</strong></p> <p>Podcasting apps that support <strong>Value 4 Value</strong> Bitcoin payments: <a href="https://podcastindex.org/apps?appTypes=app">https://podcastindex.org/apps?appTypes=app</a></p> <p>-</p> <p><strong>TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)</strong></p> <ul> <li>0:00:30 – Introduction to Episode</li> <li>0:05:55 – Start of Conversation</li> <li>0:07:33 – Why Unlimited Bio chose Próspera</li> <li>0:09:44 – Próspera’s three regulatory tracks explained</li> <li>0:12:16 – Insurance and why the “do anything” meme in Próspera is wrong</li> <li>0:13:23 – Gene therapy fear factor: “Frankenstein” intuitions and what it actually is</li> <li>0:14:07 – Why gene therapy matters: inherited disease, and Vladimir's son’s deafness story</li> <li>0:18:16 – Embryo editing, embryo selection, and what is (not) possible today</li> <li>0:19:05 – How gene therapy works in practice: adding corrected DNA without editing the original</li> <li>0:21:40 – Netherlands vs Próspera, and the clinic partnership model</li> <li>0:22:16 – The therapy “menu”: VGF now, follistatin next (and what they do)</li> <li>0:26:44 – Is aging “designed” by evolution, or a side effect evolution ignored?</li> <li>0:29:52 – Naked mole rats, turtles, and species that seem to “escape” aging</li> <li>0:43:31 – Near-death experience, psychedelics, and the existential side of living forever</li> <li>1:10:42 – AI abundance, meaning, and why humans may have to self-impose challenges</li> <li>1:30:23 – The “mystical scientific problem” of aging</li> </ul> <p>-</p> <p><strong>NOSTR</strong>:</p> <ul> <li>Timothy Allen: <a href="https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsyvyjl47u724y643483g7ktwc86ku30ngew7xsgwwrlyxdmararwc3fyehr">npub1gcf9ltaeu42f4tr20z3avkas04dezlx3jaudqsuu87gvmh686xasrvqjg0</a></li> <li>Free Cities Foundation: <a href="https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs0cfrsa5vksqwa4nju9093fffl5hhflq0wxedlf9v0jnrpzlv7ufcvg8qer">npub1lsj8pmgedqqamt89c27tzjjnlf0wn7q7udjm7j2cl9xxz97eacns2mwpee</a></li> </ul> <p>-</p> <p><strong>LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA</strong>:</p> <ul> <li>Vladimir Leshko: <a href="https://x.com/vladileshko">https://x.com/vladileshko</a></li> <li>Timothy Allen: <a href="https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen">https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen</a></li> <li>Free Cities Foundation: <a href="https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound">https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>-</strong></p> <p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong>:</p> <ul> <li>Unlimited Bio: <a href="https://unlimited.bio/">https://unlimited.bio/</a></li> <li>Veritas Villages: <a href="https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities">https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities</a></li> <li>Free Cities Foundation: <a href="https://free-cities.org/">https://free-cities.org/</a></li> <li>Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: <a href="https://prospera.co/r/freecities">https://prospera.co/r/freecities</a></li> </ul>