Forgotten Seasons

As an NBA fan, few experiences rival receiving the number one pick. And to get the number one pick, your team either has to be very bad or very lucky. So, for today’s episode, we’re going to dissect the seasons that resulted in teams landing the grand prize. From tank commanders to coin flips, the history of the best number one picks ever runs deep. Timecodes:00:00 Start01:37 Who are the 5 best #1 picks ever? 07:37 Hakeem to the Rockets (1984) 23:44 Spurs Masterful 1-Year Tank Job for Timmy (1997) 32:15 LeBron to the Cavs (2003) 39:37 Shaq to the Magic (1992) 59:53 End Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There are a lot of narratives swirling the web about former Mavs All-Star forward, Josh Howard. Most notably, one video with 4M views titled "how a YouTube video ENDED an NBA career." In today's episode, Howard clears the air on those false narratives and relives the beginning to his career with the Mavericks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After losing in 7 games to the Pistons in the 2005 East Finals, Heat President Pat Riley knew he had to make moves fast. With an aging Shaq and a ready-to-win-now Dwyane Wade, Riley knew Miami's window was shrinking.That summer, Riley completely re-hauled the roster, bringing in veterans Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, James Posey and Gary Payton. But when the team - led by Head Coach Stan Van Gundy - stumbled out of the gate, Riley took matters into his own hands, firing Van Gundy and re-taking the head coaching reigns. The rest was history.Antoine Walker joins the show to talk about his introduction to Heat Culture and their road to a championship. 00:00 Beginning01:53 Club Shiznit / 2005 Celtics 02:30 Pat Riley Replacing Stan Van Gundy08:58 Shaq and Wade’s Relationship 12:15 Introduction to Heat Culture / Weight Tests19:25 Gary Payton 24:03 Coach Spo’s Influence on Dwyane Wade 28:21 2006 Bulls 33:06 Refereeing in 2006 Finals 35:06 Dwyane Wade vs Paul Pierce35:57 Championship Celebration + Alcohol Poisoning 41:05 Lore of UCLA Summer Pickup Runs 47:05 Why Toine is Upset with Chicago Basketball 49:00 Michael Jordan Summer Time Chi Runs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Gary Payton, Jason Kidd and John Stockton. These are the only three point guards in NBA history that logged more games than today's guest, Andre Miller. If there's one thing Miller embodies, it's being a floor general. And in today's league, it seems like floor generals are endangered, maybe even extinct. Miller candidly walks us through his thoughts as to why the true point guard is being phased out of the league. He also takes us back to memorable pockets from his rich 17-year career, including secret pickup runs with John Stockton and Karl Malone, joining the 2003/04 Nuggets for Melo's rookie year and his unsuccessful attempts at containing a surging Steph Curry in the 2013 Playoffs.00:00 Beginning00:30 Secret to being an NBA ironman03:50 Private pickup runs with 90's Utah Jazz10:25 Who is the best team to never win a ring?13:55 Using Stockton's techniques in NBA15:35 What happened to the true point guard?19:02 Memories of rookie Melo, Traded for Iverson23:10 Art of the post-up point guard27:14 Steph Curry's 2013 Playoff explosion29:09 Is Steph a true point guard?33:44 Does Draymond get enough credit?34:58 52-point game vs Mavericks in 201038:58 Trainer culture ruining youth?47:44 End Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Boogie Cousins is comfortable where he is. After 11 years in the NBA, which included four All-Star appearances and record statistics, he's began a new chapter as an overseas star. Most recently, he won Finals MVP for the Taiwan Bear Leopards.In this episode, he reflects on the ups, the downs, and everything in between from his 11 years in the NBA.00:00 Beginning, Kentucky Beginnings06:35 John Wall the phenom14:23 Kings36:50 2018 Pelicans, Achilles injury56:55 Overseas journey, Stephon Marbury influence01:08:32 End Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Devin Harris played in over 1,000 games from 2005-2019, and he had a front row seat to plenty of historic moments. In this episode, Harris shares what it was like guarding Dwyane Wade in the 2006 Finals, losing to the We Believe Warriors in the 2007 First Round, playing for Mark Cuban, mentoring Luka Doncic and Jalen Brunson in his last year and more. Timecodes:0:00 - Intro01:07 - Key to lasting 15 years in the league 05:22 - How many players can Devin name from the 12-win, 2010 Nets? 15:37 - Early Mavs years, Don Nelson + Avery Johnson25:32 - Why Mark Cuban is the best owner30:49 - 2006 Finals, Guarding Dwyane Wade41:37 - Loss to We Believe Warriors in 200751:27 - Watching the Mavs win the 2011 Finals from afar 54:37 - Playing with Luka and Brunson in his finals season 01:07:24 - End Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Trevor Ariza is one of 149 players in NBA history to play over 1,000 career games. His 18-year journey included a rocky start with Stephon Marbury and the New York Knicks, a 2009 Championship with Kobe Bryant and the Lakers and a front row seat to the James Harden show in Houston with the Rockets.In today's episode, TA shares untold stories about Kobe Bryant, how he almost went Latrell Sprewell on Larry Brown, the D'antoni-fication of the Houston Rockets and much more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Were the misfortunes of Sam Bowie and Greg Oden karma for the Blazers gross mismanagement of Bill Walton's feet? Did Michael Jordan really bring Charles Oakley into Wizards practice just to mess with Kwame Brown? The most notorious "busts" in NBA history deserve for their stories to be rewinded and analyzed. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Forgotten Seasons dissects some of the biggest "swing and miss" trades in league history, examining the risks taken and consequences suffered. We break down the ill-fated merger of Allen Iverson and Chris Webber in 2005, the Pistons' disastrous 2008 Iverson trade, the Lakers' bold moves in 2008 and 2012 and the Rockets trading for an aging Charles Barkley in 1997. Strap in for a candid look at when big risks failed to pay off for NBA franchises.(00:00) - Intro(02:44) - Allen Iverson & Chris Webber team up in 2005(12:23) - 2008 Pistons trade for Allen Iverson(19:22) - Lakers trades in 2008 & 2011(30:13) - 1997 Rockets trade for Charles Barkley(40:02) - Asterisk trades Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The 17-Foot Assassin, David West, joins the show to relive the rise of the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets in the mid-2000's.West was drafted to the Hornets 18th overall in the legendary 2003 NBA Draft, joining the team for their first season in New Orleans. But just two years after West and the Hornets' arrival in New Orleans from Charlotte, they needed to move again due to the devastation of Hurricane Katrina. Just a month before the 2005/06 season tipped off, it was determined that Oklahoma City - who had no other major sports teams - would be the Hornets temporary home until New Orleans was rebuilt (enough).From 2005-2007, the Hornets played nearly all of their home games in Oklahoma City. And to their surprise, Oklahoma City welcomed them with rabid support. This successful foster parent-like relationship laid the groundwork for the city being able to swipe the Sonics from Seattle just a few years later.Coinciding with the Hornets temporary move to Oklahoma City was the emergence of the team, led by West and the young point god, Chris Paul. In 2008, the Hornets were back in New Orleans and won a franchise-record 56 games. They would fall to the Spurs in 7 games in the West Semis, and according to West, his injured back was the only thing that kept the Hornets from making the NBA Finals.West details the rapid ascension of his team, reveals the origin to his signature mid-range jump shot, gives his opinion to why the Hornets eventually fell apart and much more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tony Allen arrived in Memphis in 2010 and tried to establish a similar culture of his last team, the Boston Celtics. Allen won a ring with the Celtics in 2008 and observed the work ethic of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, James Posey, Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo.Before Allen got there, the Grizzlies had a grand total of zero playoff wins as a franchise in their 15+ years of existence. Most players on the team, besides Allen, had no playoff experience. Pretty soon after his arrival, Allen's influence rubbed off on the rest of the team, and Grit 'N' Grind was born. The Grizzlies made the playoffs as the 8-seed and beat the 1-seed Spurs in six games. In Round 2, they took the eventual Western Conference champs to 7 games but lost.In this week's episode, Allen relives his journey from Boston to Memphis, explains how he implemented a culture, breaks down his chemistry with Zach Randolph and goes in depth on his perimeter matchups with Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant and LeBron James.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mike Bibby and the 2002 Sacramento Kings had one of the most heartbreaking playoff series of all-time versus the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. We dive deep with Bibby on handling that devastating loss, his views on today's player development philosophies, and the underrated players from his era that don't get enough credit.The former point guard doesn't hold back, providing raw insight into the controversial officiating conspiracies that clouded that iconic 2002 Western Conference Finals. Bibby reflects on the lasting impact and what-ifs from that crushing defeat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Paul Pierce's journey is something out of a movie. In September, 2000, Pierce was stabbed 11 times in a nightclub and came millimeters away from dying. He nearly became the third Celtics forward in less than 20 years to tragically die. Not only did Pierce survive, he became one of the greatest Celtics of all time.In this week's episode, Pierce takes us through his journey returning to the court a month after the stabbing incident. In the 2000/01 season, Pierce played all 82 games and was coined "The Truth" by Shaquille O'Neal after dropping 42 points on the Lakers. Following his breakout 2001 campaign, Pierce leveled up in 2002, earning his first All-Star selection and bringing the Celtics just two games away from the NBA Finals.Plus, he explains how he developed his patented mid-post game, talks "Club Shiznit" and much more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Amin Elhassan peels back the curtain and brings us inside Phoenix's front office during times of great change. Elhassan spent six years inside Phoenix's front office from 2005-2012 and had a front row seat to glory and turbulence.He provides detailed recounts of several unanswered questions from his tenure. Why couldn't they get past San Antonio? Why did Steve Kerr trade Shawn Marion for Shaq? Why did the Suns players rebel against Terry Porter? Was Shaq really a child movie star?All and more is revealed on this week's episode.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Matt Barnes is a fighter. From 2003-2010, he signed six one-year contracts with six different teams. In this week's episode, we hone in on Phoenix in 2009, where the Suns were entering a new phase. Mike D'Antoni, the architect of the '7 Seconds or Less' Suns, fled to New York, and Terry Porter took the helm as head coach.Porter was quick to dismiss D'Antoni's run-and-gun offense. "If you look at the history of the game, no team that has played that running style has had much success,” said Porter before the season. Porter's defense-first approach did not go well, and he was fired before the trade deadline. Phoenix finished 46-36 but missed the playoffs in a loaded Western Conference. It's one of the highest win totals in NBA history for a team that missed the playoffs.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From 2000-2006, no Laker (other than Kobe Bryant) logged more games than Devean George. Drafted to LA out of Division 3 (!) Augsburg College in 1999, D George arrived in La-La Land just in time for three consecutive championships.On today's episode, George recalls his first days in LA, a memorable draft workout with new head coach Phil Jackson, Kobe vouching to front office for him during contract negotiations, "Santa" Shaq and much more.George is the only player other than Kobe that saw the glory of the 3-peat and the unraveling that followed.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Josh Smith joins the show and takes us back to getting drafted by his hometown Atlanta Hawks straight from Oak Hill Academy. Smith was one of 21 players that were drafted straight from High School between 2003 and 2005.Getting drafted to your hometown team sounds like a dream. But what if your hometown team also happens to be one of the worst teams in NBA history? Well, the 2005 Hawks went 13-69, good for the 8th worst winning percentage in the modern NBA (since 1980). Smith opens up about his rookie year, his complicated relationship with Head Coach Mike Woodson, Joe Johnson, Antoine Walker and more.Smith had a hell of a career. He's one of six players since 1990 to put up 100+ steals and 200+ blocks in a season (Hakeem, David Robinson, Andrei Kirilenko and Ben Wallace). He made an All-Defensive Team. And he probably should have made an All-Star Game.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Amar'e Stoudemire joins Forgotten Seasons to talk about his record-setting 2005 Playoff run, why the 'Seven Seconds or Less' Suns never won a championship, Tim Donaghy, the Horry Hip Check, his Knicks tenure and more.To many, these Suns teams are in contention for best team to never win a championship. When Steve Nash joined the Suns for the 2004-05 season, the Suns exploded. They began the season 30-4 and were DESTROYING teams. Phoenix finished the season 62-20 with (by far) the #1 offense in the league.In the playoffs, at 22-years-old, Stat averaged 30 and 10 (!) against some of the best power forwards of all-time, Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dee Brown joins the show and opens up on a turbulent 90's decade in Boston. Brown is the lone Celtic that played Larry Bird and Reggie Lewis AND played for coach Rick Pitino.In this episode, we begin in 1990, when a rookie Brown becomes a Celtic in the midst of a major transition for Boston. After winning three championships and making eight straight Conference Finals in the 80's, Boston lost in the first round in 1988 and 1989. Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish's championship window was closing, but a young phenom, Reggie Lewis, seemed ready to take the torch and define a new era. In 1991 and 1992, Lewis averaged 25 points per game in the playoffs and the Celtics won over 50 games each year.But Boston's seemingly perfect bridge between the Bird and Lewis era suddenly collapsed in the summer of 1993. Lewis' 1993 season was cut short after he mysteriously collapsed in a playoff game. Shortly after the season, doctors cleared him, but as he was training at Brandeis University, he suffered cardiac arrest and died. He was just 27 years old.In the years following Lewis' death, the Celtics tanked out. They failed to win over 35 games from 1994-1996, and in 1997, they went 15-67, by far the worst season in franchise history.Enter Rick Pitino in the Spring of 1997, who was named the savior, but disaster would turn out to be the more accurate label. Midway through Pitino's first season as Head Coach and Team President, Brown was packaged in the infamous Chauncey Billups for Kenny Anderson trade.We hope you enjoy this episode. Rate and subscribe, and follow Forgotten Seasons for more.www.linktree.com/forgottenseasons Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tim Thomas joins the show to talk late 90’s Sixers, 2001 Bucks and mid-2000’s Knicks. He also highlights his rise to the league as the #1 player in the Class of 1996 and his rivalry with Kobe Bryant in high school.We use the “ahead of his time” label pretty lightly these days. But Thomas, at 6’10” with a sweet stroke and guard-like handles was…definitely ahead of his time.Philadelphia was his landing spot in the 1997 Draft, and Thomas joined a squad featuring a young Allen Iverson and Jerry Stackhouse. Thomas dispels the narrative that AI and Stackhouse hated each other and dives deep into his relationship with Larry Brown.Less than two years into his Sixers tenure, Thomas was shipped to Milwaukee, where he'd play alongside Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson and Sam Cassell. The Bucks had the number offense in the league in 2001 and beat Indiana and Charlotte in the playoffs before facing Philly, Thomas' old team, in the Conference Finals. The epic 7-game series came down to the last shot, which Glenn Robinson missed, and Philly advanced.After Milwaukee, Thomas had successful stints with New York and Phoenix. To wrap up the episode, we talk about Tim Thomas Playaz AAU program, which has ushered more than 25 players into the NBA with tens of millions in contract dollars earned.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba). This episode is co-hosted by Dylan Dreyfuss and Jelani McCoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To properly tell the story of the Miami Heat becoming one of the NBA's most prestigious franchises, you have to start in the Spring of 1995. Pat Riley was on the last year of his contract with the New York Knicks, where he was the Head Coach for four years. Riley had taken the Knicks from sub .500 to Eastern Conference Champions in just a few years, and he wanted a compensation package that properly reflected his value. Riley asked Knicks management for a big contract, a hefty ownership stake, and total control of the team's basketball operations.The Knicks balked at Riley's demands, so he shifted his attention to Miami. The Heat - who joined the NBA as an expansion team in 1989 - failed to win more than 42 games in their first seven years in the league. Mickey Arison took control of the team in 1995 and didn't want to settle for mediocrity. Through a mutual friend, Arison started talking to Riley while he finished out his last year in New York. Riley presented a similar list of demands to Arison. He wanted a $50 million contract, a 10% ownership in the team upon signing, an additional 10% over time, a limo service to and from games, and a $500 per-diem. In addition to all of that, he asked that the Heat buy his homes in LA and New York. Arison agreed, and Riley took the command in 1995-96.During his first season in Miami, Riley traded for 30-year-old Tim Hardaway, a 3x All-Star who some thought was over the hill. On this episode, Hardaway takes us back to his first days in Miami and the Heat's breakout 1996-97 campaign. Joining Hardaway in South Beach in 1997 were Alonzo Mourning, Dan Majerle, Jamal Mashburn and PJ Brown. They won 61 games and had the #1 defense in the league. In the playoffs, they beat Orlando in Round 1, followed by an iconic 7-game, fight-filled ECSF vs. the Knicks, Riley's old team.Subscribe to Forgotten Seasons! New episodes every Wednesday, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Charlotte Bobcats existed for 10 seasons and racked up a grand total of zero playoff wins. The pinnacle of the franchise came in 2009/10, when the Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace-led Bobcats made the playoffs and ranked first in defense.Stephen Jackson arrived in Charlotte nine games into the 2009/10 season after being traded from Golden State. Stak was just two years removed from making history with the 2007 We Believe Warriors. That Warriors core - featuring Baron Davis, Matt Barnes, Jason Richardson and Al Harrington - dismantled quickly following their magical run. By 2009, Captain Jack was the lone sailor left, and he wasn't happy. He publicly requested a trade in the summer of 2009 and was shipped off to the Bobcats in December.Directly following the trade, reporters asked Bobcats head coach Larry Brown if he was worried about Jackson joining his locker room. Stak had a bad reputation following the Malice at the Palace, and more recently from a sideline blow-up with his old Warriors coach, Don Nelson. But Brown was not worried at all. Jackson, he said, shared certain qualities with his former student, Allen Iverson. "I can deal with (high-maintenance) kids. All you have to do is be straight with them,’ Brown said. ‘After six years with Allen (Iverson in Philadelphia), I don’t look at anybody as a challenge. (Jackson) wants to play and he’s a competitor. Guys like that you can make work in your locker room."With Jackson, Wallace, Tyson Chandler and Boris Diaw, the Bobcats won a franchise-high 44 games and made the playoffs for the first time in their history. Despite getting swept in the first round, this 2010 season is a source of great pride for Jackson.Catch new episodes of Forgotten Seasons every Wednesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Dylan Dreyfuss and Jelani McCoy break down two fascinating subjects.01:20 - Vince Carter’s Ugly Breakup with Toronto21:15 - The Mind Games of Phil Jackson First, we discuss why Toronto turned against Vince Carter. VC put the Raptors on the map and inspired a golden generation of Canadian basketball players, yet today, he is despised by much of the Raptors fanbase. Why? Well, it’s complicated, and unless you were actually inside the Raptors organization, you probably don’t know the truth. Lucky for us, we’ve got J-Mac. Jelani played 67 games for the Raptors in 2002/03 - the same time that VC and Toronto started to turn against each other. Next, we attempt to enter the complicated mind of Phil Jackson. Jelani spent the entire season with the Lakers in 2001-02, which was the third leg of their three-peat. He recalls the novel that Phil handed him at the beginning of the season, Kobe’s transformation from garden snake to black mamba, why he thinks Shaq was the best veteran Kobe could’ve had and much more.We’ll be back with new episodes every Wednesday from here on out! You can also catch episodes every Wednesday at 8PM EST on DraftKings Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was having a career year in 1996. The 26-year-old guard was averaging 20ppg and 7apg on a 40% clip from deep. But when Joe Williams, a local Denver radio host, brought up on air that Abdul-Rauf hadn't been standing for the National Anthem, everything changed. The backlash came in like a tidal wave – from both the public and from the NBA – and a few months later, he was out of Denver, and eventually the league entirely.In this episode of Forgotten Seasons, Dylan Dreyfuss is joined by Abdul-Rauf to relive the forgotten and iconic moments of his career. The two discuss Abdul-Rauf's rookie season, where he was part of the worst defensive team of all-time, Denver's historic upset in the First Round of the 1994 Playoffs, a promising 1996 Nuggets squad and much more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobaskebtall) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Nuggets were one of the most consistent franchises in the NBA all throughout the 80's. But the 90's couldn't have been any different in Denver. There were all-time bad teams, record-setting seasons (the bad kind), historic upsets, missed draft picks, a National Anthem controversy and much more.In this bonus episode of Forgotten Seasons, Dylan Dreyfuss breaks down what exactly what went wrong in the Mile High City in the 90's.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ricky Davis has come a long way. He entered the league as a 17-year-old kid from Davenport, Iowa, and over the next 12 years would share the court with some of the best players to ever lace up. FS creator Dylan Dreyfuss is joined by 8-year NBA veteran and current media mogul, Jelani McCoy. Jelani and Ricky are both members of the 1998 NBA Draft class and were teammates with the 2003/04 Cleveland Cavs. Davis relives many of the stops in his journey, most notably the early 2000's with the Heat and Cavs, a 2005 season in Boston in which he finished runner-up in the Sixth Man of the Year voting, and his final stops in Minnesota and Miami. Over his career, Davis was labeled as a journey man, and sometimes even worse as a "good stats, bad team" guy. While he was aware of some of the narratives clouding him, it only fueled him to keep going and do what he loved most: getting buckets.Other conversation points include NBA accessory culture in the 2000s, the great/forgotten Dajuan Wagner, 2005 First Round matchup vs. the Malice Pacers, the fabled UCLA Men's league, his infamous triple double, baptizing Steve Nash and more. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

D-Will joins the show to talk about his breakout second season in Utah. After a rookie campaign in which he got spotty minutes, D-Will comes out strong in year #2, putting up 16ppg and 9apg. He became the first second year player since Jason Kidd to put up 16/9 a game. Surrounding Williams were a pair of All-Star big men in Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur, and rounding out the rotation were Andrei Kirilenko and Derek Fisher.Utah won 51 games and finished with the #3 offense in the league. In the playoffs, they defeated T-Mac and Yao's Rockets squad in a seven-game First Round series. Then, they took care of the We Believe Warriors in Round 2 but fell to the eventual champion Spurs in the WCF. This was the first of four consecutive postseason trips for D-Will's Jazz teams.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Daniel "Booby" Gibson joins the show to relive the 2007 Eastern Conference Champion Cavs' season. The main storyline of the Cavs season is the 22-year-old phenom LeBron James. He has the defining moment of his career to this point, scoring the last 25 points for the Cavs in Game 5 of the East Finals vs Detroit. But, what people forget, is that in the following game, it was Booby who stole the show to close out the Pistons, pouring in 31 points and finishing 5/5 from deep.Surrounding Booby and LeBron was Larry Hughes, Big Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Anderson Varajao, Drew Gooden and Eric Snow. Cleveland finished with 50 wins, 2 seed in the East and the #4 defense in the league. Booby counters the opinion that East was weak, explains why Tony Parker was his "welcome to the NBA" matchup, talks through why the Cavs couldn't get back to The Finals, and more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

K-Mart joins the show to dive deep into a historic 2002 Nets season. New Jersey lands Jason Kidd for Stephon Marbury in July of 2001, a move that proved to be one of the best trades of the decade. With Kidd at the helm, the Nets finished as the #1 seed in the East and also boasted the league's best defense. Outside of Kidd and K-Mart, the Nets rotation featured Kerry Kittles, Keith Van Horn and a rookie Richard Jefferson.Heading into the season, New Jersey was dubbed as a fringe playoff team. Squads like Milwaukee (Ray Allen + Glenn Robinson), Philly (defending EC Champs w/ Allen Iverson) and Orlando (T-Mac and Grant Hill) were all pinned as safer bets as New Jersey. Ultimately, the Nets' stout defense and run n' gun offense led them to the top of the Eastern Conference. In the postseason, they beat #8 seed Indiana in a five-game Round 1, handled Charlotte in Round 2, and defeated Boston in the ECF to advance to the franchise's first NBA Finals. In the Finals, they were mopped by the Lakers in four games, a common occurrence for early 2000's playoff teams.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Point God Kenny Anderson joins the show to talk about the 1993 Nets, his second year in the league and the only true look we got at an Anderson/Petrovic/Coleman Big 3. The Nets won 43 games but Anderson broke his wrist in late February from a hard John Starks foul. This was Drazen Petrovic's last season in the league; he tragically passed away in the summer of 1993. His last season was his best – he put up 22 PPG and a shot a ridiculous 45% clip from deep. Anderson dubbed Derrick Coleman as "the best player he's ever played with." DC averaged 21/11/4 and was one of the most versatile bigs in the league. Chuck Daly joins the picture in New Jersey this year fresh off Gold at the 1992 Olympics with the Dream Team. The Nets fell to the Mark Price Cavs 3-2 in Round 1 of the playoffs.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mad Max joins the show to relive the 1994 Rockets championship season. The Rockets began the a blistering season 15-0 (NBA record at the time) and ended up 58-24 as the #2 seed in the West. They went through Portland, Phoenix, Utah and finally New York to bring Houston their first major league sports title ever. The biggest storyline going into the '93/94 season was Michael Jordan's retirement from the league, announced just weeks before the season was set to tip. To some, Jordan's absence diminishes the Rockets titles, but according to Maxwell, Chicago would have been light work for the Rockets. Max discusses the league without his great friend MJ, Hakeem's greatness, toughest 2-guard matchups, and much more. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Starbury Marbury joins the show to dive deep into his last season in Minnesota. When we talk about 90s and 2000s What Ifs, the scenario of Marbury and KG sticking together into the 2000’s has to be discussed. At 20 and 21 years old, Marbury and KG led Minnesota to 45 wins and barely lose in the first round to a 61-win Sonics squad.In his second season, Marbury became the youngest player ever to average 17 PPG and 8 APG in a season, breaking Magic Johnson's record. After this season, Steph requests a trade and land in New Jersey. Over the next decade, neither KG or Marbury saw a ton of success, leaving fans questioning why the promising duo split. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Shane Battier jumps on Forgotten Seasons to relive a memorable year in H-Town. This 2009 Rockets squad won 53 games and finished as a 5 seed in a loaded Western Conference. Their playoffs starting 5 was Aaron Brooks, Battier, Ron Artest, Luis Scola and Yao Ming. T-Mac's season is cut short in February due to microfracture knee surgery.In the postseason, Houston rallied past Brandon Roy and Portland in Round 1 to set up an epic 7-game WCSF vs the Lakers. Battier was the primary matchup vs Bean, which, as he explains, comes with both mental and physical tests.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

NYC legend and 11-year pro Rafer "Skip 2 My Lou" Alston joins Forgotten Seasons to talk 2003/04 Heat. This was a defining year in Alston's career, playing big minutes for the first time and setting him up for a coveted long-term contract. D Wade enters the scene as a rookie and shows his greatness early, leading the team in playoff ppg (18.0). Rafer and D Wade were surrounded by Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Udonis Haslem and coached by Stan Van Gundy. They won 42 games, finished as the #4 seed in the East and lost to a 61 win Pacers squad in round 2.Catch Rafer in NYC POINT GODS, streaming July 29 on SHOWTIME.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

JR Smith joins Matt and Stak to unveil the next and final set of players to the ShoBasketball NEXT 75. Outside of unveiling the list, the trio talk Cavs vs Warriors Finals, the 2010's three point revolution, toughest matchups and much more.We're naming 75 hoopers that didn't make the NBA 75 list but deserve the same respect as those who did. Check out the previous episodes with Tracy McGrady (2000s), Penny Hardaway (1990s) and John Salley (1980's).Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

T-Mac joins Jamal Crawford and Stephen Jackson to unveil the next set of players, all from the 2000's, to the ShoBasketball NEXT 75. The trio also break down their biggest memories from the decade, analyze how the game was played in their era, share untold stories of offseason training stories and much more.We're naming 75 hoopers that didn't make the NBA 75 list but deserve the same respect as those who did. Check out last week with Penny Hardaway on the 1990's and stay tuned for a special guest next week when we unveil the players from the 2010's.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In a special episode of WHAT'S BURNIN, Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson are joined by the legend Penny Hardaway to unveil the next set of players on their Next 75 list, all from the 90s, and break down some of the best-unheralded players including Grant Hill, Tim Hardaway and more. We're naming 75 hoopers that didn't make the NBA 75 list but deserve the same respect as those who did. Stay tuned over the next two weeks when we’ll be announcing the Next 75 players for the 2000’s and the 2010’s with special guests!Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The legend, Agent Zero, joins Forgotten Seasons to relive his breakout 2004/05 season in DC. The high powered trio of Arenas, Larry Hughes and Antawn Jamison each averaged over 19 PPG and led the Wizards to their first playoff series victory in over 20 years. This was the only season from 1982 to 2013 that Washington advanced past the first round. Gil gives us 90 minutes of untold stories, insights into his teammates and peers, X's and O's and much more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andre Miller, one of the great floor generals of the 2000's, joins Forgotten Seasons to talk 2010 Blazers. This was Dre's first season in Portland and he joined a team that was coming off a breakout 54-win season led by the budding Brandon Roy. Unfortunately, the main storylines from this season were devastating injuries to both Roy and Greg Oden. Oden would star in the first 21 games but a knee injury ended his season. Roy got 65 games deep (including an All-Star selection) but a knee injury effectively ended his season as well. Andre did his thing, playing all 82 games and helping Portland win 50 games. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball). This episode is presented by Draftkings Sportsbook. Use promo code "FORGOTTENSEASONS" and sign up today. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The late 90's and early 2000's were an interesting time in Seattle. Just a few years removed from the 1996 Finals run, the Sonics underwent abrupt and significant changes. The 1999/2000 team was centered around Gary Payton – who had the best year of his career averaging 24ppg, 9apg, and 7rpg – and the supporting cast featured Vin Baker, Horace Grant, Rashard Lewis and this episode's guest, Jelani McCoy. Jelani recalls his best GP stories, his big bro Vin Baker, battling Utah in the playoffs, discusses what led to the eventual death of the Sonics and much more.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more.If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/ /NJ/NY/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2x All-Star and true forgotten hooper Jerry Stackhouse joins Dylan Dreyfuss to relive the 2002 Pistons season. Stack was coming off back-to-back ASG appearances and was surrounded by A DPOY Ben wallace, 6MOTY Corliss Williamson, Cliff Robinson, and rookie head coach Rick Carslile. Stack led the team in points and assists and Detroit won 50 games and nabbed the 2 seed in the East. Stack also sheds light on the first portion of his career, most notably his time spent with Allen Iverson in Philly and Grant Hill in Detroit.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more.If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/ /NJ/NY/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Terrence Ross joins the show to talk about the rise of the Toronto Raptors and relive the 2016 season, a high point for the franchise. Terrence recalls the vibe in Toronto when he was drafted there in 2012. The Raps had missed the playoffs five straight years and hadn't won a playoff series since Vince Carter's 2001 squad. T Ross discusses the budding relationship and play of Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry, Drake's impact on franchise, playoff battles against Paul George's Pacers, D-Wade's Heat and the eventual champion Cavs.Sign up for Draftkings Sportsbook and use promo code FORGOTTENSEASONS If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OR/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

ESPN's Justin Tinsley joins the show to relive Vince Carter and Allen Iverson's heavyweight battle in the 2001 East Semis, a matchup that many feel was the greatest non-Finals playoffs series ever. Exchanging blows were a 5th year MVP in Allen Iverson and Carter, a 3rd year, record-setting scoring machine and highlight factory. Both players faced immense pressure and criticism from the media at this time, Iverson for his unbuttoned off the court lifestyle and Carter for his history of dismal performances in big moments. Tinsley and host Dylan Dreyfuss discuss the state of the NBA in 2000/01, Vince Carter's graduation trip, Iverson's complicated relationship with the NBA and much more. Thanks for tapping in!Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ray Felton joins the show this week to relive the magical 2013 Knickstape season. Ray manned the point and surrounding him were Carmelo Anthony, JR Smith, Jason Kidd, Tyson Chandler and some other great hoopers. The Knicks won 54 games this season, had the #3 offense in the league and finished as the two-seed in the East behind Miami. Ray talks about the value of true veteran leadership, a locked-in Melo, the genius of Jason Kidd and more. Drop a rating and review if you like what you're hearing.Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The great JJ Redick comes through to Forgotten Seasons this week to relive the legendary 2009 Magic season. The nucleus of this team was 23-year-old DPOY Dwight Howard, and surrounding the big fella was Rashard Lewis, Hedo Turkoglu, JJ, and Rafer Alston. This group was ahead of their time; they were the second team ever to hit 10 or more threes a game. Much of that came from Stan Van Gundy's analytics-first philosophy. JJ tells stories about each of his teammates, proclaims that the 2009 Finals was the highlight of his career, relives each of Eastern Conference playoff series against Philly, Boston, LeBron's Cavs, and a lot more. Rate and review the podcast and follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball). Thanks for tapping in this week y'all! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

NBA Twitter legend Josiah Johnson and former NBA hooper and Showtime Basketball producer Jelani McCoy join Dylan Dreyfuss to dive deep into the 2004 Lakers season. This was the last year of the Kobe/Shaq era in LA, and it was also the year where their feud really exploded in the public. Karl Malone and Gary Payton come over in free agency, and when at full strength, this Lakers group was elite. They won 56 games, finished as the #2 seed in the West, defeated the defending champion Spurs in the playoffs, but got embarrassed by the Pistons in The Finals. On today's episode, we discuss Shaq and Kobe's relationship, the "mind tricks" of Phil Jackson, the Lakers v. Pistons Finals, and a lot more.Drop a rating and a review if you're liking the show. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgotteneasonsnba) and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) for more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Lob City Clippers were a highlight factory but one of the more disappointing groups in NBA history. Despite all of their talent, the team never made it past the second round of the playoffs and was on the wrong side of some brutal collapses. In this episode, the team's starting small forward, Matt Barnes, joins Dylan Dreyfuss to relive the 2015 Clips season. This was year two of the Doc Rivers era and year four of the CP3/Blake/Deandre Big 3, and there were no more excuses left; it was championship or bust. Matt details the on-court chemistry issues that plagued the group, explains what went wrong in the infamous Houston series, reminisces on the good times (there were a lot!) that the group had together, and much more. Thanks for listening. Rate and review the podcast if you're enjoying it. Follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) on Instagram and Showtime Basketball (@shobasketball) on all platforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Captain Jack joins Dylan Dreyfuss to dive deep on the 2003 CHAMPION Spurs. This squad featured an MVP Tim Duncan, rookie Manu Ginobili, David Robinson in his final year, Tony Parker, and more. This was Stak's third and breakout season in the NBA. He played a critical role as the starting 2-guard and scoring spark plug. Stak brings us back to 2002/03, when he was just a few years removed from hooping overseas in China, France, Venezuela, and the Dominican Republic. We discuss his big brother, Tim Duncan, the dazzling Manu Ginobili, defeating the once-invincible Kobe and Shaq, Stephon Marbury and more.If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe and rate to the podcast and follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and SHOWTIME Basketball (@shobasketball). Thanks for supporting! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Jamal Crawford joins Dylan Dreyfuss to dive deep on the 2010 Atlanta Hawks. This was Crawford's 10th season in the league but his first as a true sixth man, a critical identity change that propelled a second phase of his career in which he became arguably the most decorated sixth man in NBA history. In this episode, Crawford brings us back to the season that "changed everything" for him and provides insight on his Hawks teammates, his toughest matchups, playoff battles against Brandon Jennings and Dwight Howard, the eagerly awaited return of his hometown Seattle Sonics, and much more. If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe and rate to the podcast and follow Forgotten Seasons (@forgottenseasonsnba) and SHOWTIME Basketball (@shobasketball). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 2008 the Bulls selected the hometown point guard, Derrick Rose, and the course of their franchise changed. In the 1st year of the D Rose era, the Bulls won 41 games and took the Celtics to 7 games in their playoff series. In this FS episode, Creator Dylan Dreyfuss is joined by Ben Gordon, the starting shooting guard and one of the best scorers of the late 2000's. The two talk rookie D Rose, breakdown the Celtics series game by game, and discuss why Ben didn't return to Chicago after this season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.