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#5: Garrett McCurrach - Underground Hyperlogistics Delivery Drones
Season 1 · Episode 5

#5: Garrett McCurrach - Underground Hyperlogistics Delivery Drones

First Principles with Christian Keil · Christian Keil

March 27, 20241h 16m

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Show Notes

Episode 5: Garrett wants to deliver any good in under ten minutes, for under a quarter, using drones that burrow underground.


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(00:00) - Intro

(00:50) - What Pipedream is Building

(02:17) - Garrett's Background and Learning to Build Businesses

(04:02) - How Pipedream Moves Things Efficiently in Cities

(07:07) - Why Pneumatic Tubes are Not the Solution

(10:08) - How Pipedream's System Works with Robots, Rails, and Totes

(13:20) - Designing the Track to Handle Curves and Turns

(17:27) - Pipedream's Initial Focus on Instant Pickup and Curbside Delivery

(20:12) - The Vision for Edge Warehouses and Hyperlogistics

(23:05) - The Key Challenges in Scaling Autonomous Logistics

(28:37) - Why Last Mile Delivery Speed is More About Deployment Than Robot Speed

(31:10) - The Hardest Problems Pipedream is Solving

(37:14) - How Pipedream Decided on Underground Delivery Infrastructure

(41:37) - Leveraging Existing Utility Installation and Regulation Practices

(44:49) - Believing in the Vision Despite Skepticism

(47:53) - The Huge Potential of Last Mile Logistics Innovation

(50:51) - Garrett's Journey to Find a Meaningful 10-Year Opportunity

(54:49) - Realizing Underground Infrastructure was More Feasible Than Expected

(57:22) - Taking the Unconventional Path Despite Discouragement

(01:00:00) - The Engineering Appeal and Potential Impact of Last Mile Logistics

(01:04:02) - Borrowing from Proven Utility Distribution Models like Water and Sewage

(01:07:07) - The Perfect Timing and Conditions for Logistics Disruption

(01:11:35) - Cities' Incentives to Support Underground Utility Infrastructure

(01:14:27) - Conclusion


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