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FIRE BTC Podcast Episode 2: Bitcoin vs. Real Estate with Chris DrzyzgaRecorded: March 20, 2026Episode SummaryChris Drzyzga has spent 15 years brokering commercial real estate deals in Southern California — over 275 transactions and $300M+ in total consideration. He’s also a convicted Bitcoiner who sold off most of his real estate portfolio to stack sats.In this episode, Trey and Chris dig into how bitcoin is dethroning real estate as the world’s default store of value, why 62% of U.S. commercial property is functionally obsolete, and Chris’s four-pillar framework for integrating bitcoin into real estate operations. They also get personal — covering Chris’s journey from flipping repossessed motorcycles in high school to running his life on a bitcoin standard, and how he’s teaching his kids to save the good money and spend the bad money.Topics Covered* Chris’s origin story: flipping repoed motocross bikes into a seven-figure business as a teenager* Using those proceeds to buy a four-unit multifamily property and launch a 100% commission brokerage career* Why commercial real estate cycles are broken — year 13+ and still no clearing* The extend-and-pretend problem: lenders keeping zombie assets alive* Bitcoin as the apex store of value, displacing real estate’s monetary premium* Secular trends reshaping CRE: AI, demographics, obsolete building stock* Chris’s four-pillar framework for bitcoin-native real estate:* Capital strategy— Treasury management (cash / spot BTC / STRC), bitcoin-integrated financing, capital raising* Energy optimization— Bitcoin mining integrated into building mechanical systems (HVAC, water heaters)* Technology integration— Accepting bitcoin payments, signaling forward-thinking operations* Tenant improvements— Modular buildouts to preserve capital and reduce downtime* The liquidity premium of bitcoin vs. the illiquidity trap of real estate* STRC as a medium-term savings tool (4–12 month bucket)* Running your life on a bitcoin standard — budgeting in sats* Teaching the next generation: “save the good money, spend the bad money”* Why human-to-human skills will be at a premium in the AI era* The power of just doing things — putting one foot in front of the otherChapters00:00 — Introduction & How Trey Met Chris01:02 — Chris’s CRE Career & Origin Story02:23 — The Motocross Bike Business05:31 — Just Do Things: Taking Action Creates Opportunity08:52 — From Broker to Landlord: Building a Real Estate Portfolio11:39 — The Broken Money Revelation & Finding Bitcoin12:39 — Where Is Real Estate Headed?15:02 — The Extended CRE Cycle & Extend-and-Pretend17:50 — Secular Trends: AI, Bitcoin, and Obsolete Buildings29:06 — The Four-Pillar Framework for Bitcoin-Native Real Estate36:55 — Chris’s Personal Finance Journey: Divesting RE for Bitcoin42:13 — Managing Volatility: Short, Medium, and Long-Term Buckets45:48 — STRC & the Carry Trade46:01 — Teaching Kids About Money on a Bitcoin Standard49:52 — Preparing the Next Generation for an AI World54:57 — Closing Thoughts: Consistency, Living Below Your Means & Where to Find ChrisGuest Links* X/Twitter: @ChrisDrz* Website: chrisdrzyzga.com* Linktree: linktr.ee/chrisdrz* Podcast: The Real Estate Standard* Voit Real Estate Services: voitco.comConnect with FIRE BTC* Newsletter: firebtc.io* Compass Calculator: calc.firebtc.io* X/Twitter: @ts_hodlRelated FIRE BTC Content* Why I Bought STRC With Borrowed Money — Issue #68, the STRC carry trade referenced in this episode This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.firebtc.io/subscribe

FIRE BTC Podcast Episode 1: Joe Burnett on Bitcoin, Career, and Building WealthGuest: Joe Burnett, Head of Bitcoin Strategy at Strive Asset ManagementHost: Trey SellersRecording Date: January 23, 2026Episode Duration: 56 minutesWelcome to the inaugural episode of the FIRE BTC Podcast. This conversation with Joe Burnett explores what it actually looks like to build a life around bitcoin — from discovering it in college to navigating a career transition at the 2021 peak, surviving the bear market, and thinking through the real-world questions that come with trying to build wealth on a bitcoin standard.We cover Joe's journey from his first exposure to bitcoin at around $1,000 in 2017, through stacking sats on a limited income in college, to eventually leaving a traditional finance career to work full-time in the bitcoin industry. Along the way, we dig into practical topics that don't get enough attention: how to think about spending when your savings are in bitcoin, why borrowing against your stack might not make sense even when it's available, how to navigate bitcoin ownership in relationships and marriage, and whether the goal should ever really be to stop working entirely.This isn't a conversation about macro narratives or price predictions. It's about the personal finance side of bitcoin — the decisions, trade-offs, and mindset shifts that come with trying to align your financial life with a fundamentally different form of money.About Joe BurnettJoe Burnett is the Head of Bitcoin Strategy at Strive Asset Management, where he focuses on corporate bitcoin treasury strategy and institutional adoption. He discovered bitcoin in 2017 during college and has been working full-time in the bitcoin industry since 2021. His career path includes roles at EY, Blockware Solutions, Unchained, and Similar Scientific (acquired by Strive). Joe is known for his long-form research and educational content on bitcoin's role in corporate finance and personal wealth building.Follow Joe:• X: @IIICapital (https://x.com/IIICapital)• YouTube: @JoeBurnett27 (https://www.youtube.com/@JoeBurnett27)Timestamps00:00 Introduction to FireBTC Podcast02:25 Joe Burnett's Bitcoin Journey06:18 College Years and Early Investments12:27 Transitioning to a Bitcoin Career18:21 Evolving Perspectives on Bitcoin and Spending24:33 The Future of Bitcoin and Personal Finance29:04 Navigating Bitcoin Ownership and Tax Implications31:11 The Risks of Borrowing Against Bitcoin33:01 Balancing Bitcoin and Personal Relationships39:43 Career Aspirations in the Bitcoin Space43:16 Financial Independence and Joint Financial Planning51:01 Lessons Learned and Advice for Friends55:23 Subscribe to FIRE BTCKey Topics Discussed• First hearing about bitcoin in 2017 when it was trading around $1,000• Building a commodity price tracking Android app in middle school (2011-2012) and early exposure to markets• Growing up with a value investing mindset before discovering bitcoin• Stacking bitcoin in college on a limited income while managing traditional expenses• The decision to quit a stable job at EY to join Blockware Solutions at the 2021 market peak• Surviving the 2022 bear market with income directly tied to bitcoin and mining operations• Natural spending habits and not needing to actively budget or restrict lifestyle• The concept of declining "BTC yield" as your stack grows and what that means for stacking intensity• The GBTC confession: why keeping bitcoin in a Coinbase account despite knowing better• Perspective on borrowing against bitcoin and the real risk of forced liquidation• Getting married and approaching joint financial planning with a partner• His fiancée independently choosing to buy bitcoin without prompting• Career aspirations in bitcoin corporate finance and treasury strategy• Why full retirement might not be the goal — even with significant bitcoin wealth• The importance of having purpose and meaningful work beyond just accumulating wealthNotable QuotesOn discovering bitcoin:"The market is kind of saying, hey, something is here. And I was like, well, I need to find out what this is."On spending and lifestyle:"I live like how I really would want to live without too much excess. I'm not living below my means in a way that's painful."On allocation strategy:"It's unnecessary to be all in on Bitcoin from a personal perspective. Like, you don't need to be all in to have life-changing wealth from Bitcoin."On borrowing against bitcoin:"I don't want to be a forced seller at $30,000 Bitcoin. That's the worst outcome for me."On career and purpose:"If I had a hundred million dollars worth of Bitcoin, which would be incredible, I honestly might still be doing exactly what I'm doing right now."Resources & LinksPeople & Companies:• Strive Asset Management• Nakamoto Institute• True North (Jeff Walton's podcast)Connect with the show:• Subscribe to FIRE BTC newsletter: https://firebtc.substack.com• Follow Trey on X: @ts_hodl (https://x.com/ts_hodl)Subscribe to FIRE BTCIf you're

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