
Property Boom, or Doom and Gloom? Understand property bubbles and crashes so you can stop being freaked out by the media
Finance & Fury Podcast · Finance & Fury
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Show Notes
This week's Say 'What' Wednesday is from my friend Adam. We were talking on the weekend about Harry Dent's recent visit
- He predicts a property crash - There is ALWAYS another financial crash coming!
- He claims that Australian property is set for a 50% crash - Or correction?
- Interestingly, Dent made similar prediction in 2011, 2012, and 2014 as did The Economistand Demographia.
History: Lets go back in time
- 2014 - Dent came to Australia warning the China bubble would bursts in mid-2014 and Sydney house prices could collapse by up to 55%.
- What happened? Houses and units went up over 80% since then
- 2012- Dent was quoted in Forbes as saying: "The greatest housing bubble in developed-country cities starts with Brisbane, Australia …".
- What happened? Prices went up average 23%
End of the world
- Just like those that predicted the end of the world – Mayan calendars – just read the tea leaves wrong.
- But Harry has doubled down in his conviction his timing was premature
- Forecast is correct because he has no doubt that we are in a bubble.
Wait... bubbles are different to a guaranteed crash!
- I agree we are a bit of a bubble – when compared to the rest of the world
- Bubbles "can" crash isn't the same as bubbles "will" crash
- There's two options; either the price growth can crash, or the price growth can slow to a snail's pace, or have slow and steady declines (a small correction)
Reasons
- Look at the areas with 'bubbles'
- Sydney, Auckland, Vancouver, NYC – High immigration + low supply
- What are the signs of a Bubbles?
- Sydney price-to-income ratios are the second highest in the world—above London and New York—but hey, Sydney is a great place to live.
- High incomes, employment, and family members of those moving here
- Supply is constrained by zoning laws, two national parks, a mountain range, and an ocean. Yet demand continues to grow, so prices tend to rise.
Where Dent is confused – Australia is different to the US
1 - Our regulators are prepared (too much so?)
- APRA introduced several measures aimed at reducing risks in the mortgage market – investors and interest-only lending have been key targets.
- The number of investors in interest-only loans fell sharply as a result, and experts see a major recovery as unlikely in the near term. This is a long-term strategy.
- UBS economists argue the move "suggests a more rapid tightening of lending standards than our base case outlook", with the regulator preparing the marketfor more permanent measures
2 - Our economy is strong enough
- Our banking system is sound, mortgage arrears rates are low at about 0.5-0.6 per cent across the country
- Household budgets are in good shape as we've been paying down our debts
- Inflation is contained and interest rates are low and likely to remain so for a while.
3 - Real estate is different in Australia
- Because people don't just dump real estate. It gets very illiquid and hard to sell fast.
- The banks in Australia will come after you – Can't just leave the keys and walk away like in the US.
- That in conjunction with the incentives of the US Gov to lend to those that couldn't afford (thanks to guarantees) caused bad behaviour (Mortgage Backed Securities)
- Like any addict – don't incentivise them to indulge their behaviour
Devil's advocate - To make our property markets crash we need one or more of the following four things.
- A major depression(not just a recession). Nobody, other than Dent, is suggesting this will occur;
- Massive unemploymentand people not able to keep paying their mortgages — unlikely;
- Exceedingly high interest ratesso that home owners won't be able to keep up their mortgage payments. Again, this isn't on the horizon; and
- An excessive oversupply of propertiesand no one wanting to buy them. Other than in a few spots this is not occurring in Australia.
What the future holds
- Demographics
- how many of us there are
- how we live, where we want to live and what we can afford to live in
- property will always be in demand – people need somewhere to live
- interest rates, consumer confidence and government meddling.
- Prices (Source: SQM Research) – 2018 forecasts (down a lot from 2017)
- Perth 1-4%
- Sydney -4% to 0%
- Melbourne -3% to +1%
- Brisbane 0% to 3%
- Hobart 8% to 13%
- Canberra – 1% to 4%
Maybe at some point he will be right, but what are the real risks to our economy?
- Government spending money – printing and not getting out of debt
- Fiat currency will lead to the devaluation of our money – inflation but thankfully, while being bad, aren't as bad as the US.
- Higher taxes – leading to unemployment
- Or if the Gov takes over housing – that would be a guaranteed crash
- Free market for housing allows choices – Government system wouldn't.