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Styrian Grand Prix review: James Allison unpicks why Red Bull had the edge on Mercedes
The Red Bull Ring lived up to its name as Red Bull’s Max Verstappen eased to victory over Lewis Hamilton in the Styrian Grand Prix. Tom and Natalie unpack how it all played out, and are joined by Mercedes’ Technical Director James Allison to discuss the Silver Arrows’ defeat and how they plan to respond at the same track next weekend. There’s also chat about Charles Leclerc’s driver of the day performance, Daniel Ricciardo’s homesickness, George Russell’s heartache and Fernando Alonso’s continued resurgence. Plus Tom and Natalie share some behind the scenes stories from Austria, including a potentially embarrassing moment for Lewis Hamilton!This episode is sponsored by:Sons - use code F1NATION25 to get £25 off your first order
French GP Review: Red Bull knock Merc off-balance
Merci beaucoup, Paul Ricard! Damon, TC and Pinks re-live a thrilling French Grand Prix and marvel at Red Bull’s winning strategy. Damon gives his take on Valtteri Bottas’ radio fury, Max Verstappen’s Turn 1 wobble and Mercedes’ chassis swap. The gang also discuss a great weekend for McLaren and try and get to the bottom of Ferrari’s tyre woes. With two races in Austria coming up, the team debate whether Red Bull or Mercedes are the favourites. Plus, why Pinks wants to swap lives with Yuki Tsunoda, DH compares himself to a Hollywood A-lister F1 and the trio answer your questions on dream Grand Prix locations and driver contracts in Ask Damon. If you’d like to put your question to The Champ, record a voice note and email it to [email protected]
French GP preview with Alain Prost
It’s triple header time! Yes, this weekend the French GP kicks off a run of three races in three successive weekends, and Damon and Tom can’t wait! They discuss who the Paul Ricard track is more likely to suit: Mercedes or Red Bull, Ferrari or McLaren, and share some memories of the circuit. Then four-time world champion - and six-time French GP winner - Alain Prost joins to discuss Alpine’s progress and what it was like to be Damon’s team mate in 1993. And finally, Ask Damon returns with a musical question and more!To ask Damon a question, send a voice note to [email protected]
Azerbaijan GP review: Perez profits from Max’s misfortune
Fresh from his plane back from Baku, Tom joins Damon and Natalie to look back on a thrilling Azerbaijan Grand Prix which saw Sergio Perez claim his first win for Red Bull after Max Verstappen’s spectacular exit. They pick apart all the drama of that accident, Hamilton’s error at the restart, Vettel’s brilliance for Aston Martin, Gasly’s elbows out duel with Leclerc and much more. Plus there’s another edition of Ask Damon, including questions on tech gizmos and reading material. To ask the champ a question, send a voicemail to [email protected] episode is sponsored by:Manscaped - get 20% off and free shipping with code F1NATION
Azerbaijan preview: Daniil Kvyat and Fred Vasseur look ahead to Baku (and boxing)
After an off-weekend, TC and Pinks can’t wait for another action packed Azerbaijan Grand Prix, as they look ahead to this year’s race in Baku. They’re also joined by Alpine reserve driver Daniil Kvyat to discuss what it takes to do well at the street track, as well as who he’d fight in the F1 paddock... And finally Alfa Romeo boss Fred Vasseur jumps on to chat about the team’s recent progress, Antonio Giovinazzi’s growing star, and whether he’d give an F1 drive to a 17-year-old...
Monaco review: Charles’ pain is Max’s gain
Ok, so there wasn’t much overtaking, but Monaco still served up some great talking points - and Damon, Natalie and Tom are back to discuss them all! From Charles Leclerc’s qualifying crash to Mercedes’ off colour day and Max’s perfect weekend, they dig into it all. Plus there’s chat on Sainz’s progression, Norris’s continued excellence and whether Sebastian Vettel has finally found his mojo. And if that wasn’t enough, Damon answers another listener question, this time on the harsh realities of swearing in the cockpit. If you want to ask Damon a question, send a voice note to [email protected]
Monaco preview: Lewis, Max or someone else? Sir Jackie Stewart looks ahead to F1’s most famous race
It’s Monaco race week! TC and Damon are very excited this week as they preview the classic street race - especially when Monaco master Sir Jackie Stewart joins to discuss how to win in the Principality, and who might triumph this year. The Scot also hangs around for the latest instalment of Ask Damon, as the ‘96 champ fields your questions once more - and reveals why he turned down the chance to drive for Jackie’s team!If you want to ask Damon a question, send a voice message to [email protected]
Spanish GP review: Verstappen wins the start, Hamilton wins the race
On this week’s show Damon returns to look back on an intense Spanish Grand Prix with Tom and Natalie. They discuss Hamilton’s 100th pole - and his response to Damon’s hyperbolic tweet about him! - plus the Briton’s strategic victory over Verstappen in the race. They also discuss that spicy start, Mercedes team orders, and TC shares some interesting behind-the-scenes observations on the title protagonists.Then there’s chat on Leclerc, Ricciardo and Gasly, plus reaction to the surprising thing that Tsunoda says is best about being an F1 driver. And finally, Damon answers YOUR questions in the latest edition of Ask Damon.To ask the Champ a question, however silly, send a voice note to [email protected]
Portuguese GP review: Hamilton takes charge – but will Verstappen hit back in Spain?
On this week’s episode of The Nation, TC and Pinks look back on the Portuguese Grand Prix and Hamilton vs Verstappen Round 3. Joining them (from an airport in the Algarve) to discuss how Hamilton bounced back from an early mistake to take victory is F1.com Senior Writer Lawrence Barretto, who also gives his views on Ferrari’s form and Raikkonen’s error. Then French journalist Julien Billiotte, for the country’s best selling motorsport magazine Auto Hebdo, joins to discuss Alpine’s upsurge in form and why everyone in France loves Pierre Gasly…
Portugal Preview: Gerhard Berger and Damon Hill share their Portuguese GP memories
After a weekend without F1, TC and Damon look ahead to the Portuguese GP with special guest, F1 race winner and notorious prankster Gerhard Berger. Together they share some of their most memorable moments and hilarious anecdotes from the race - including several massive shunts, a famous overtake and Ayrton Senna’s maiden win. Then they look ahead to this year’s race and the next instalment of Hamilton versus Verstappen, before another instalment of Ask Damon, this week with a theme of racing driver arguments.To ask your question to The Champ, send a voice note to [email protected]
Imola Review: The Hamilton vs Verstappen rivalry takes another twist
Well, what a race that was! After a terrific Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, Damon, Natalie and Tom discuss all the important issues - including the latest shift in the Verstappen vs Hamilton rivalry, and why we saw SO many driver errors. There’s also chat on Lando Norris, Ferrari, Yuki Tsunoda, and of course that massive shunt between George Russell and Valtteri Bottas. And it wouldn’t be an episode of F1 Nation without another round of Ask Damon! To ask the Champ a question, however silly, send a voice note to [email protected]
Imola Preview + The return of the Ferrari vs McLaren rivalry
On this week’s show TC and Pinks discuss whether this season will see a return of the classic Ferrari-McLaren rivalry, in the company of Felipe Massa’s former Ferrari engineer Rob Smedley. Then Italian correspondent Davide Valsecchi joins to help preview the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix at Imola, with the trio giving their podium predictions and more!Don't forget, if you want to ask Damon a question, send a voice note to [email protected]
Who wins a Mercedes vs Red Bull season-long battle?
On this week’s pod, with Natalie on hols, Damon and TC take a closer look at the Mercedes vs Red Bull rivalry, and how it compares to Williams’ legendary battles with Benetton in the mid-90s. Then Pedro De La Rosa joins the boys to give his view on Alonso, Sainz and all things Spanish in F1, not to mention share some fantastic anecdotes. And finally we have another edition of Ask Damon, where the Champ answers YOUR questions...Want to ask Damon a question? Send a voicenote to [email protected]
Bahrain GP review: Was this one of Lewis Hamilton’s best-ever victories?
After a breathless F1 season opener in Bahrain, Damon, Natalie and Tom pick apart the big talking points - including Max Verstappen surrendering the lead back to Lewis Hamilton, and just where the victory ranks in Hamilton’s best races. There’s also chat on Norris, Ricciardo and Sainz, some more Yuki Tsunoda love, plus the second instalment of Ask Damon. Oh, and keep an ear out for a cameo from Sky pit lane reporter Ted Kravitz too...If you want to ask Damon a question, send a voice note to [email protected]
F1 Season Preview: Is this finally Max Verstappen’s year?
On the first episode 2021, Tom Clarkson and new team mates Damon Hill and Natalie Pinkham preview the upcoming F1 season – with plenty of laughs along the way. Dutch broadcaster Jack Plooij joins to discuss Max Verstappen’s chances of dethroning Lewis Hamilton, the gang discuss Valtteri Bottas’s cheeky appearance in Drive to Survive, plus Damon faces his first fan question in the brand-new ‘Ask Damon’ segment.If you want to ask Damon a question, send a voice note to [email protected]
F1 Nation returns on March 23 - and with an all-new line-up!
F1 Nation, your weekly dose of light-hearted F1 chat and fun, returns for a new season on March 23. And this year there’s a new presenting crew! Tom Clarkson returns with two new co-hosts – 1996 F1 world champion Damon Hill and Sky Sports F1 presenter Natalie Pinkham. Be sure to hit the follow button so you don’t miss an episode!
Ross Brawn on a unique F1 year and the 2020 season reviewed in full
In the closing episode of 2020 TC and Alex welcome Ross Brawn to hear his thoughts on a year like no other (07:54) then Rosanna Tennant returns to review the season and set one last challenge. (28:25)Finally as Alex bids farewell to F1 Nation we hear both the highlights and the occasions when things didn't go to plan when making the podcast. (59:43)
Why Sergio Perez must stay on the F1 grid, Andrew Shovlin on Mercedes pitstop meltdown and David Tremayne on the 2020 season
On the newly renamed 'Perez Nation' Tom Clarkson and Alex Jacques relive an incredible F1 week.They debate if Mercedes might consider George Russell replacing Valtteri Bottas for 2021 (3:53) and hear why victory slipped away with Andrew Shovlin (12:12). Then there's a review of Sergio Perez's stunning last to first win, plus whether it will keep him on the grid for 2021 (20:57), finally hall of fame F1 journalist David Tremayne reflects on the strangest of F1 seasons (31:45).
'All our worst case scenarios at once' Dr Ian Roberts and Alan Van Der Merwe on facing Grosjean's horror crash plus James Key on McLaren's third place chances
TC and Alex are joined by Dr Ian Roberts and Alan Van Der Merwe to hear about making sense of an accident scene with every second counting, practicing for worst-case scenarios, how unseen footage detailed Romain Grosjean's escape after the 53g impact and why they’re not surprised Romain wants to return to racing (6:53). Then hear from McLaren technical director James Key as the team juggle three years worth of car projects at once. (21:49)
Lewis Hamilton: the early F1 years as revealed by McLaren's Mark Temple
TC and Alex finally present F1 Nation from the same place and discuss how Renault will cope swapping Daniel Ricciardo with Fernando Alonso (2:01), why the change in safety car will feel strange (5:48) and how will F1 cope with a knight on the grid in 2021 (7:18).Plus TC sits down with McLaren's Principal Car Performance Engineer, Mark Temple (10:27) to reveal the unseen pressures of Lewis Hamilton's early F1 years including: adjusting to fame, coping with Jenson Button, learning to 'drive slowly to go faster', ultimately deciding to leave the team he grew up with and whether Fernando Alonso was faster.
Behind the scenes of Lewis Hamilton's title triumph and George Russell reflects on his rollercoaster month
TC and Alex go behind the scenes of a historic triumph for Lewis Hamilton and consider the sports people he now sits alongside after his 7th title victory. (10:39)Then George Russell talks 5k times, advice from Hamilton after Imola, and the painful reality of the Turkish Grand Prix behind the wheel (20:09). Finally TC recalls a trip to the gym with F1 boss Chase Carey (33:11) and explains why you want your tarmac from Shropshire if you're resurfacing a race track. (16:03)
Felipe Massa on taming Turkey, why Hamilton won't retire and the driver market saga continues
TC and Alex discuss the driver market (00.16) including another trademarked Yuki Tsunoda update before three time Turkish Grand Prix winner Felipe Massa talks about his surprise at Lewis Hamilton's domination, Stefano Domenicali's strengths as a manager and whether he'd rather return to Istanbul or Interlagos. (07:19) Finally TC recounts his many nightmares at the circuit, turn 8 excitement and the 2010 drama is revisited (25:03).
Why you should never ignore Daniel Ricciardo and Jody Egginton on how AlphaTauri keep giant killing
TC and Alex debate if Mercedes owe Nico Rosberg for their seven consecutive constructor titles (5:32), find out what Daniel Ricciardo said to F1 journalists after being ignored in the post race press conference (13:22) and Alpha Tauri technical director Jody Egginton explains balancing the demands of next years car with huge rule changes for 2022, how racing cultures differ from country to country and the raw emotion of that Monza win (20:23).
Christian Horner on Alex Albon's future, Romain Grosjean picks his greatest F1 hits and the driver market analysed
TC and Alex consider if Lewis Hamilton's win total can ever be caught with the upcoming rule changes (1:53), then there's a dive into the mailbag to debate the dramatic driver market (4:31), Christian Horner explains how Alex Albon can save his seat (5:26) and finally Romain Grosjean picks his greatest races as he nears the end of his F1 career (22:17).
Debating the best-looking F1 car ever, the greatest racing books and the plight of the driver steward revealed
Dario Franchitti starts a debate about the best-looking F1 car ever (6:02), a mailbag question accidentally creates an F1 book club (13:40) and Emanuele Pirro drops by to talk about the harshness of being a elite driver compared to other sports, the energy required to break records, and the conflict of being an F1 steward (19:20).
Understanding Hamilton's progression at Mercedes, why the Nordschleife wants an F1 return and how Ferrari are guiding their next Schumacher
TC and Alex speak to Mercedes trackside performance director Andrew Shovlin (9:06), who describes Lewis Hamilton's personal improvements to reach the win record, and why Red Bull are once again closing the gap as the season progresses. Then veteran German journalist Michel Schmitt (17:49) compares the driving talents of Hamilton and Michael Schumacher, explains how Mick Schumacher is already getting more mainstream press attention than Sebastian Vettel, and why the Nurburgring is dreaming of F1 returning to the Nordschleife.Finally, Ferrari sporting director Laurent Meckies explains why the prancing horse is awash with young talent knocking on the door to F1 (32:25).
Unpacking Honda's shock withdrawal and the F1 Nation guide to the Nurburgring
TC and Alex are joined by F1.com senior writer, Lawrence Barretto to assess Honda’s shock withdrawal. They debate whether the manufacturer has repeated their 2008 mistake (10:32), how will Verstappen respond (12:09), if Red Bull can build their own engine (15:06), why a return to Renault cannot be ruled out (17:37), the knock on effect for the driver line up (18:41), how the entire Milton Keynes outfit will require changes (19:34) and whether this ends Yuki Tsudoda’s F1 chances? (22:52)Then after seven years away, F1 Nation guides you through the challenge of the Nurburgring (27:55).
Toto Wolff on his friendship with new F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and the Schumacher racing legacy.
TC and Alex welcome Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff (18:00) to hear why he thinks Ferrari would have blocked him from taking the F1 CEO role, why Stefano Domenicali is perfect for the job, what factors are delaying him re-signing with Mercedes and what Hamilton taking the win record would mean for the Schumacher legacy.PLUS the boys unpack the Russian GP, including ballads with Bottas (7:53), mind games at Renault (11:04), the battle for 3rd in the constructors (14:35) and why Hamilton's reaction to Russia explains a lot about elite sports person mentality (4:12).
Why Alex Albon celebrated his first podium with a candlelit dinner for one and how Kimi Raikkonen's brutal honesty left Abu Dhabi stunned
Alex Albon joins TC to talk overtaking around the outside, forgetting Eminem lyrics 14:35, celebrating his first podium with a dinner for one 19:49, and the 'unwritten rule' of ignoring your friends on track 21:52. Plus memories of F1's only Grand Prix at Le Mans 6:07, your mailbag questions answered 9:07, and the night Kimi Raikkonen's honesty left TC back peddling at Yas Marina 31:24.
Davide Valsecchi on Ferrari's 'horrible' season, where Leclerc can still improve, and why he's impressed with the new Schumacher in town
TC and Alex reflect on the season so far with a mid-season report on every F1 team and driver (14:57).Then Davide Valsecchi drops in to review Ferrari's campaign, (20:26) unpicks whats putting Giovinazzi under pressure (28:32), why he's so impressed with Mick Schumacher (30:31) and which driver on the grid is back to his very best (24:07).
How Pierre Gasly’s junior years explain his resilience, Alain Prost on the true Williams family legacy and what Mercedes will change on the pit wall for Mugello
On the newly renamed 'Gasly Nation' we delve into the Frenchman’s past to highlight when his F1 chances hung by a thread and what pulled him through (10:47) then Andrew Shovlin explains why Mercedes made the race defining error and what they'll change for this weekend (21:50), finally paddock legend Ane Bradshaw (23:56) and four time champion Alain Prost (28:07) reveal the truth about the Williams F1 era.
Jody Scheckter on dealing with a Ferrari crisis and Andreas Seidl on what Bayern Munich taught him about F1 team management
TC and Alex discuss Ferrari's collapse after their worst result in 40 years (1:43). They're joined by 1979 champion Jody Scheckter (12:50) to hear how things were even worse in 1980 before McLaren team principal Andreas Seidl drops by to explain his management philosophy and how it's been informed by Bayern Munich (18:54).
Mark Blundell on the end of an era for Williams, how to win in America and who reminds him of Senna on the current grid
This week Tom and Alex are joined by Mark Blundell to hear how to win in America (10:30), why Williams were so good in their heyday (14:10) and which driver reminds him of Senna (20:44). Plus why F1 could return to Indianapolis (3:32) and how Takuma Sato (6:32) owes a lot to the designer of the 2002 Jordan.
Christian Horner on Alex Albon the thinker and Max Verstappen the leader
TC and Alex welcome Red Bull team principal Christian Horner (08:38) to hear why he backs 'deep thinker' Alex Albon (15:14), why an experienced team mate would offer nothing extra to Max Verstappen (13:59), and why his team won’t give up on the title.
Nico Hulkenberg on 'wanting a second date' with Racing Point and whether his future lies with Alfa Romeo
TC and Alex are joined by Nico Hulkenberg (14:02) to hear what he made of his welcome from other drivers, why he’d love another ‘date’ with Racing Point and those links to Alfa Romeo for 2021. Plus Ferrari repeat old mistakes with Charles Leclerc (08:13), why Sebastian Vettel is so on edge with his future sorted (11:05) and Andrew Shovlin on why Merecdes are relishing the challenge to fix their tyre issues before Sunday (30:10)
Esteban Ocon on life in a caravan, getting advice from Lewis Hamilton and why Silverstone is definitely not his home Grand Prix
TC and Alex welcome Renault F1 driver Esteban Ocon to hear what lessons he learned from Lewis Hamilton, why he was thinking about tyres before Sunday's race and why he's more Bane than Hannibal Lecter.
Eddie Jordan on why he wouldn't sign Sebastian Vettel for Racing Point
TC and Alex are joined by former F1 team boss Eddie Jordan to discuss which drivers he'd like to manage, why he'd favour a young gun over signing Vettel and his memory of breaking into Silverstone to watch the Grand Prix.
Claire Williams on George Russell's champion potential, why Silverstone won't be the same and how the adrenaline returned to Williams
TC and Alex welcome Claire Williams, to discuss the team's painful years, her memories of Williams old champions and why the British Grand Prix will feel incomplete without thousands of fans. Then F1TV's Rosanna Tennant, Will Buxton and Lawrence Barretto reflect on the strangeness of the last three races.
Damon Hill on why Vettel shouldn't retire
Tom and Alex are joined by 1996 World Champion, Damon Hill to hear how Sebastian Vettel's driver market problems mirror his own experience, why Fernando Alonso's behaviour will be different during his last F1 chance and why Valtteri Bottas will have to resort to mind games to beat Lewis Hamilton to the title.
Gerhard Berger on how to fix Ferrari
Tom and Alex speak to ten time Grand Prix winner, Gerhard Berger who outlines the changes he'd make at Ferrari; then we hear from Mercedes' Andrew Shovin about his team's reliability concerns and Andreas Seidl details Lando Norris' constant improvement at McLaren.
Why Pierre Gasly is ignoring the driver market, how Antonio Giovinazzi intends to handle the pressure and Zak Brown on McLaren’s transitional years
In the last show of pre-season, Tom and Alex welcome Zak Brown to hear why McLaren will require two years before they can return to the front; Antonio Giovinazzi talks about keeping the next generation at bay, and Pierre Gasly tells Rosanna Tennant why he’s ignoring the 2021 driver market and focusing on Austria.
Daniel Ricciardo on why Ocon and Norris are key to his future success and Davide Valsecchi explains why F1 drivers should fear Mugello.
Tom and Alex speak to Daniel Ricciardo who re-lives his 'foreign' feeling driving again, then Davide Valsecchi details why he's hopeful for a mega Italian summer of F1 but fears for Ferrari’s season, and finally TC turns quizmaster in Rosanna Tennant's latest challenge.
Mark Webber on Vettel's future, why Otmar Szafnauer is bullish about Racing Point's chances and what next for esports?
Tom and Alex are joined by Mark Webber to hear why he believes neither Vettel nor Alonso will be on the grid in 2021. Then Racing Point team principal, Otmar Szafnauer talks about the most competitive car his team have produced in a decade, and finally Rossana Tennant re-lives F1’s esport journey with Tom Deacon and Matt Gallagher.
Lando Norris on getting up to speed, James Allison challenges F1's new rules, and how the calendar could help Verstappen
TC and Alex hear why Lando Norris has tested an F3 car in preparation for the season ahead, Mercedes' James Allison explains which of the new rules he would rewrite, and Lawrence Barretto from F1.com outlines why he believes the new calendar favours a new champion. Finally, Rosanna Tennant faces her toughest challenge yet.
Mika Hakkinen on that Spa overtake, Rob Smedley on F1’s future rules and Sergio Perez on his sim racing debut
On this week’s show TC and Alex check in with double world champ Mika Hakkinen, who talks is through his famous Spa 2000 overtake on Michael Schumacher, and gives his views on the driver market. Then F1 consultant Rob Smedley hops on the line to talk about Sainz’s move to Ferrari - and why F1 needs Sebastian Vettel. And as usual Rosanna Tennant faces up to another challenge, this time whilst interviewing Racing Point’s Sergio Perez...
David Coulthard on what it takes to win in Monaco, Niki Lauda remembered, and trying to make Johnny Herbert sing!
On this week’s fun-filled show the boys are joined by David Coulthard who shares his views on everything from winning in Monaco to Sebastian Vettel’s future and his esports debut. Then Rosanna Tennant is back to face her latest challenge: trying to make Johnny Herbert sing. And finally, legendary F1 journalist Maurice Hamilton hops on the line to remember the late Niki Lauda, whom he’s just written a book about.
Unpicking the driver market madness, catching up with ‘Netflix star’ Guenther Steiner and more!
After a mad few days in the driver market, TC and Alex are joined by F1.com’s Lawrence Barretto to unpick Ferrari’s signing of Carlos Sainz in place of Sebastian Vettel, and Daniel Ricciardo’s move to McLaren. Then Haas Team Principal Guenther Steiner joins the boys to discuss, amongst other things, his starring role in Netflix’s F1: Drive to Survive. And where would F1 Nation be without Rosanna Tennant, who faces up to her next challenge with Esteban Gutierrez...
Sir Jackie Stewart on Senna, Alain Prost on his famous nickname, and David Tremayne on F1’s most influential person
On a bumper all-star 70th anniversary episode, TC and Alex are joined by three-time world champ Sir Jackie Stewart to chat about F1’s evolution - and his famous exchange with Senna. Then hall-of-fame journalist David Tremayne hops on the line to discuss F1’s most influential person, before Rosanna Tennant catches up with four-time world champion Alain Prost for a special challenge...
Ross Brawn on the 2020 calendar, Will Buxton on building the perfect F1 track and George Russell provides a lockdown update!
F1 Nation bursts off the line with an all-start cast and plenty of F1 chat, including an exclusive update from Ross Brawn on the 2020 F1 calendar and the possibility of double headers. Then journalist and presenter Will Buxton joins TC and Alex for a chat about the best corners in F1, before Williams’ George Russell hops on the line to update us on what an F1 driver does under lockdown…
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