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S33 Ep 7From Debut Novel to Animated Series: Mike Booth’s Journey with Hawk

In this Sci-Fi Talk episode, host Tony Tellado sits down with filmmaker and writer Mike Booth to discuss his debut novel, Hawk, and the exciting news of it being adapted into an animated series. Mike shares his own writing advice, encouraging aspiring authors to embrace the process of writing a "bad" first draft. As they delve into the world of Hawk, Mike reveals his unexpected journey from filmmaker to successful author and the joy of creating characters that are nothing like himself. They also discuss the diverse group of characters in Hawk and the opportunities for both adventure and comic relief that they bring to the story. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Dec 26, 202425 min

S4 Ep 3The Universe Of Dune Episode 3

Concluding episode has more Brian Herbert, Scott Brick, and courtesy of Warner Bros Pictures are Zendaya, Chang Chen, David Bautista, Rebecca Ferguson, and Oscar Issac. Includes audio clips from the Dune audio book courtesy of MacMillan Audio. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A Free One Year Trial Period

Dec 25, 202431 min

S4 Ep 2The Universe Of Dune Part 2

This has more with Brian Herbert, Scott Brick, Kevin J, Anderson an courtesy of Warner Bros are Javier Bardem, David Datsmalchian, and Sharon Duncan Brewster with audio clips from the Dune audio book from MacMillan Audio. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A Free One Year Trial Period

Dec 25, 202433 min

S44 Ep 1Dune Lists And News

Using the books, there is speculation from the internet on what happens next in Dune and Dune Prophecy. There's the origin of the voice, the various Jihads, The efx and sandworms of Dune, and more on the Bene Gesserit. There are some possible spoilers based on those books, so beware. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For a locked in low price and a one year free trial.

Dec 25, 202416 min

S15 Ep 21Trek Tuesday Dr. Marc Okrand

Complete interview with the inventor of the Klingon language shares his Star Trek memories and his continued work on Star Trek Discovery. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A Free One year Trial

Dec 24, 202432 min

S43 Ep 23Dune Revisited Part Two

Two conversations with Dune co-author Kevin J Anderson on working on the last two books of Frank Herbert's original Dune story. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a one year free trial

Dec 23, 202455 min

S44 Ep 3The Walking Dead Sessions Episode 5

This episode recorded before season six has Steven Yeun, Gale Ann Hurd, and Danai Guirra from SDCC. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly price.

Dec 20, 202411 min

S44 Ep 4Sci-Fi Weekly: Superman Expectations, New Wheel of Time Actors, The Boys' Final Chapter

This is Sci-Fi Talk Weekly for December 19, 2024, Episode 116. Happy Holidays! In this episode, we're taking a tour around the Internet to bring you the latest news and updates in the world of genre entertainment. I cover the rising buzz around James Gunn's new Superman movie, casting updates for Wheel of Time, insights into the upcoming season of The Boys, and the latest directors for Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse. Plus, we've got news about Wicked Part Two, a review of The Lion King prequel, and exciting additions to the National Film Registry. We'll also highlight the biggest games of 2025, look at top sci-fi books of the year, and discuss the best time travel films and Superman villains. There's lots to unpack, so stay tuned! Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Dec 19, 202416 min

S44 Ep 2Bill Oberst Jr

Besides being a talented actor who made his mark in Horror, Bill is a podcaster and has a one man show on sci-fi legend Ray Bradbury Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a low monthly price and a year free trial

Dec 18, 202427 min

S13 Ep 3Trek Tuesday Lower Decks Podcast

I chat with the podcast host GL McDornan on Star Trek Discovery and his podcast. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a One Year Free Trial

Dec 17, 20245 min

S43 Ep 22Dune Revisited Part One

Part One of Two Part conversation on the best of Dune Authors featuring Brian Herbert as our guide in this universe.From 2011

Dec 16, 20241h 3m

S43 Ep 20Byte Wakanda Composers

Composers Ludwig Goransson and Brian Tyler talk about scoring for this Marvel nation. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Dec 15, 20244 min

S43 Ep 19Byte Craig Miller On Gary Kurtz

The Star Wars Memories author talks about working with Gary Kurtz who produced the first two Star Wars films. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a one year free trial

Dec 14, 20244 min

S1 Ep 1James Denton

The Desperate Housewives Star takes on the Man Of Steel in All Star Superman. We chat about both series plus he brings up one of his most interesting genre roles.Special Thanks To Gary Mierneau. From 2011 Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus at https://scifitalkplus.supercast.com/

Dec 13, 202421 min

S43 Ep 24Sci-Fi Talk Weekly Episode 115 Has Wheel Of Time, Star Wars And Warhammer 4000 news

This week's news has an Expanse actor added to Wheel Of Time, Musafa earnes praise, Warhammer 4000 is a go, The Mandalorian And Grogu adds to the cast, Superman has pick-up shots, Is Cillian Murphy's Jim a Zombie in 28 Years Later ? , Outlander wedding, Harry Potter shooting in summer. List includes the best Man From U.N.C.L.E. episodes. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a free One Year Trial.

Dec 12, 20249 min

Time Capsule Heroes And Villians Special

Interviews with Azie Tesfal of Supergirl. from Smallville Justin Hartley, Erica Durrance and Cassidy Yates, Mark Hamil, Stephen Amell, Marc Guggenheim. George Newburn, Pauley Perrette, and Clancy Brown. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a free one year trial

Dec 11, 202420 min

S43 Ep 17Trek Tuesday Barry J Kelly

He wears many hats on Star Trek Lower Decks as we chat about giant green hands, repairing rifts, guest stars, and omnipotent beings on Trek. Subcribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Dec 10, 202411 min

S19 Ep 8Byte Brad Dourif On Lord Of The Rings The Two Towers

Actor talks playing Grima Wormtongue in The Two Towers. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A One Year Free Trial

Dec 8, 20247 min

S26 Ep 18Byte Jess Bush And Babs Olusanmokun

The two Star Trek Trek Strange New Worlds actors reflect on the actors who originated their roles in Majel Barrett and Booker Bradshaw. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A One Year Free Trial

Dec 7, 20241 min

S43 Ep 18Sci-Fi Talk Weekly Has Reviews, Lists And News

Returning with news on Nosferatu, and reviews on Skeleton Crew and Creature Commandos. There are lists on lightsabers, Dr Who audio re-release, best military sci-Fi games, cancelled shows we may miss. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Dec 5, 202414 min

Database Forrest J Ackerman

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New series that highlights some of my vintage podcasts. This one deals with the founder of Famous Monsters Of Filmland. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Dec 4, 20245 min

S43 Ep 16Star Trek Lower Decks: Gillian Vingman Talks Foul-Mouthed Dr. Tiana

Today, we dive deep into the animated world of Star Trek: Lower Decks as we chat with the talented Gillian Vingman, who voices the foul-mouthed and fiercely unique Dr. T'Ana. Explore the rich history of the cat-like Caitions in Star Trek lore, the intricate layers behind Dr. T'Ana's personality, and the dynamic relationships she shares with other characters like Tendi and Shaxs. Get ready for some hilarious behind-the-scenes stories, fascinating character insights, and of course, plenty of colorful language. All this and more on today's Trek Tuesday! Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus to hear an uncensured version and more

Dec 3, 202413 min

S43 Ep 15Kolchak and the Classic Monsters: How a Kickstarter Campaign Brought Back a Horror Icon

Today, we dive deep into the dark and thrilling world of Kolchak: The Night Stalker, a beloved 1970s telemovie that intrigued horror fans with its gripping storyline and the unforgettable character, journalist Carl Kolchak. Fast forward to today, and the legacy continues thanks to a passionate fan base and a successful Kickstarter campaign for Kolchak: The Night Stalker comics. James Aquilone, who has an extensive background in journalism and comics, shares his journey of acquiring the literary rights to Kolchak and bringing this iconic character back to life in a series of graphic novels. We delve into the creative process, exploring how classic monsters like Frankenstein and Dracula are being reimagined in the gritty 1970s Chicago setting, and hear about the talented writers and artists contributing to this revival, including notable names like Steve Niles and David Dastmalchian. Whether you’re a long-time fan of the original show or a newcomer intrigued by the blend of horror and investigative journalism, this episode promises to uncover the fascinating elements that make Kolchak’s new adventures as compelling as ever. Tune in and explore how these fresh stories and stunning artwork honor the spirit of Carl Kolchak while introducing him to a whole new generation of fans. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For Black Friday Savings

Dec 2, 202426 min

S11 Ep 26Creativity EFX Digital Doubles

Since Terminator 2, doubles have been used in genre films. This episode looks at use on Wanda Vision, See, For All Mankind, The Man In The High Castle and Lissey's Story. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Nov 27, 202416 min

S43 Ep 14Trek Stars Unite for PanCan: Battling Pancreatic Cancer with Hope and Determination

In this special episode titled "Trek Stars for PanCan" we take you on an inspiring journey dedicated to raising awareness about pancreatic cancer. Today, our host Tony Tellado sits down with a stellar lineup of guests, including Jonathan Frakes, Kitty Swink, Juan Carlos Coto, and John Billingsly, to discuss their personal experiences and valiant efforts in supporting the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network (Pancan). Jonathan Frakes emphasizes the life-saving importance of second opinions and early detection, while Kitty Swink shares her survivor story and her passionate advocacy work with Pancan. The group also highlights the incredible impact of Pancan from funding research and clinical trials to providing vital patient support. There's also info on Venus Prime from Jonathan Frakes, Juan Carlos Coto remembers his late brother Manny Coto, and John Billingsly talks about his role on Matlock Visit pancan.org

Nov 26, 202435 min

S43 Ep 13Exploring Humanity Through Sci-Fi: Generational Ships, AI Companions, and Myths in Generation Crossing

On Sci-Fi Talk, I'm spotlighting a groundbreaking audio drama, "Generation Crossing." This piece, inspired by Adrian Tchaikovsky's "Elder Race" and Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds," takes you on an 800-year space journey through a series of evocative monologues, with the ship's AI as the only constant character. Our guests today are the creative minds behind "Generation Crossing"—writer Mark Salinger and composer Dan Powell. We'll discuss their journey from their college days at Syracuse University to forming Dead Signals, a creative partnership that has yielded unique audio experiences like "Archive 81." Mark and Dan will share insights into their creative process, balancing narrative and music, and the thematic exploration of human society on a multigenerational spaceship. Tune in as we delve into how "Generation Crossing" invites listeners to think about culture, mythology, and the constraints of our environments, all while enjoying Dan's rich, original electronic music. Whether you’re a dedicated sci-fi fan or new to the genre, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. So, grab your headphones and prepare to be transported. Let's get started! Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial

Nov 25, 202428 min

S18 Ep 11Byte Tom Kean

He is the voice of Yoda in Star Wars The Clone Wars plus some other characters he told me about at San Diego Comic Con. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A One Year Free Trial

Nov 23, 202416 min

S43 Ep 9Cosmic Conversations Episode 2

Starting with red carpet interviews on the series Genius with Oscar winner Geoffrey Rush, then production designer Bo Welch, make-up designer Barry Berman, and look at UFO's with Tom Jennings. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a year free trial

Nov 22, 202414 min

S15 Ep 23Trek Tuesday Michael Dorn

We covered a wide range of topics including Agent Revelation, Star Trek, The Worf series, and the western he's writing. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus at https://scifitalkplus.supercast.com/

Nov 20, 202432 min

S43 Ep 10Master Of Dark Shadows

Dan Curtis, as a writer, producer and director influenced and created memorable television. From Kolchak to Dark Shadows, his stamp on genre TV is timeless. There is a documentary,Master Of Dark Shadows which celebrates his career. I spoke to two of the stars of Dark Shadows in Kathryn Leigh Scott and Lara Parker.

Nov 18, 202421 min

S43 Ep 6Humanity’s Last Stand: Truth and Survival in Silo Season Two

My guests include Harriet Walter and Claire Perkins, who discuss the intricate relationship between their characters, Martha Walker and Carla McLean. We'll also hear from Shane McRae and Remmie Miller, whose characters, Knox and Shirley, navigate the engineering challenges within the silo. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A Special Edition

Nov 15, 202413 min

S31 Ep 6Building the World of Silo: An Inside Look at Set Design with Gavin Bocquet

In this episode of the Sci-Fi Talk, host Tony Tellado chats with special guest Gavin Bocquet, the production designer for the hit series "Silo." Gavin shares insights into the design and creation of the show's unique sets, as well as his experiences in the industry.Gavin also shares the challenges they faced when building sets for the apartments in "Silo." With limited space and budget, they cleverly repurposed existing sets and utilized modular designs to differentiate each apartment.The episode also explores the process of designing the Silo location in the series. Inspired by Soviet-era apartments and concrete technology, the set was meticulously crafted to convey a distinct atmosphere. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever rice

Nov 14, 202430 min

S31 Ep 7The Silo as a Character: Balancing Design and Digital World in the VFX Process

Welcome back to the Sci-Fi Talk Podcast! In today's episode, we have a special guest, Daniel Rauchwerger, joining our host, Tony Tellado, to delve into the fascinating world of visual effects and the creation of the Silo in the VFX Daniel takes us behind the scenes of mapping the intricate Silo, emphasizing the importance of creating an extensive and realistic structure. From utilizing light, distant neon signs, and aerial antennas to establishing a sense of location, to the challenges faced with large screens and wide image ratios, Daniel uncovers the intricate tricks and techniques employed to bring the Silo to life. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever rice

Nov 13, 202429 min

S43 Ep 8SF Audio To Listen To

For your enjoyment. So put on your buds and listen to, Thora Burch on Overleaper, Travis Beacham on the vampires of Impact Winter, Jenny Curtis and Chris Porter's journey to the sun in Solar and Felicia Day's horror comedy, Third Eye. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Nov 11, 202416 min

S21 Ep 21Byte Craig Miller On Carrie Fisher

The Star Wars Memories author looks back on one of my favorite princesses. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus at https://scifitalkplus.supercast.com/

Nov 10, 20242 min

S41 Ep 7The Ethics of Technology and Family Loyalty in Michael C. Bland’s Sci-Fi Trilogy

Today, I have the pleasure of conversing with Michael C. Bland, author behind the gripping book series starting with The Price of Safety. Imagine a world where a father, entangled in the web of a surveillance society he helped create, must protect his daughter after she commits a heinous crime. In this episode, Michael shares his inspiration for this chilling dystopian scenario, discusses the evolution of his trilogy, and reflects on the complex moral dilemmas his characters face. We'll also touch on the impact of technology on our lives and the thematic depth that Michael weaves into his narratives. Whether you're a fan of audiobooks, ebooks, or the tactile joy of a book, Michael's work is sure to captivate you. Stay tuned as we explore this fascinating intersection of technology, surveillance, and human connection on Sci-Fi Talk. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Nov 8, 202426 min

S32 Ep 11”The Musical Soundscapes of Silo: A Conversation with Composer Atli Örvarsson”

In this episode of the Sci-Fi Talk Podcast, host Tony Tellado interviews composer Atli Örvarsson, who worked on the scoring for the series Silo. Atli talks about creating the main theme for the show, incorporating different elements like piano, choir, and orchestra. He also discusses the challenges of scoring intense scenes and finding the right balance between music and sound effects. Atli shares his approach to composing for quieter moments and the importance of being sparse and minimalistic. He mentions the use of manipulated sounds to create a unique and futuristic atmosphere. The conversation also touches on Atli's creative process and his tendency to step out of his comfort zone when composing. Overall, it offers insights into the world of TV scoring and the artistic choices made in creating the musical landscape for Silo. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever rice

Nov 7, 202418 min

S43 Ep 5Trek Tuesday Bringing Humor to Vulcans: Gabrielle Ruiz Discusses Lower Decks Role

My special guest: the multi-talented Gabrielle Ruiz. From her roots as a dancer and singer to her blossoming voice acting career, Gabrielle is here to talk about her portrayal of the Vulcan character T'Lyn on Star Trek: Lower Decks. Join us as we explore her journey, her meticulous approach to voicing a Vulcan, and the experience of being part of such an iconic franchise. Plus, hear about fan reactions and the joy of seeing her character come to cosplay life at conventions. Stay tuned for an engaging conversation on this Trek Tuesday episode of Sci-Fi Talk Podcast! Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A Year Free Trial Period

Nov 5, 202412 min

S43 Ep 4Prolific director David Winning His Adventures in Filmmaking

This director has has made 47 features, worked on 29 series, and over 160 TV credits. We chat about his days working on Van Helsing, Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda, Earth Final Conflict plus his latest projects. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus

Nov 4, 202432 min

S33 Ep 3. From The Crown to Foundation: How Jane Petrie Found Inspiration in Historical and Sci-Fi Worlds

In this episode Sci-Fi Talk , host Tony Tellado interviews Jane Petrie, the costume designer for the television series "Foundation." Jane shares how her experience working on "The Crown" prepared her for the scale and speed of production in "Foundation." She talks about the evolving role of costume designers in the mobile and location-based film industry. Tony and Jane discuss the unique challenge of joining an established series and the need to create fresh identities for each season, given the 150-year time jump in "Foundation." They also delve into the design process for the Cleons' costumes and the use of armor in the show. Jane explains how she incorporates different materials and techniques, including leather, 3D modeling, and millinery, to create a futuristic yet functional look. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Nov 1, 202424 min

S9 Ep 8Shakespeare Unleashed

A chat with editor James Aquilone about this new horror anthology on Kickstarter that will be available hard cover and as a comic featuring illustrations by J.K. Woodward Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Oct 31, 202424 min

S32 Ep 5David Fernandes’ Creepy Halloween Bits Of Horror

A conversation with creator of a short horror series about people encounterng the unknown. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus Free Trial For One Year

Oct 31, 202423 min

S31 Ep 20The Journey of Cosmic Misfits: A Hilarious Third Eye with Felicia Day

In this episode of the Sci-Fi Talk Podcast, host Tony Tellado interviews guest Felicia Day, the creator and star of a new audio series. Felicia discusses how the idea for the show came to her and the long journey it took to bring it to life. .Felicia also talks about the amazing cast of the show, which includes London Hughes, Sean Aston, Neil Gaiman, and Christopher Judge, She explains how most of the cast are her friends, and how she specifically wrote certain roles with them in mind. Felicia praises the talent and contributions of each actor, including the improvisation skills of Alan Tudyk. Tony and Felicia also delve into the comedy aspect of the show and how it incorporates humor while still maintaining a strong storyline and emotional depth. They discuss how the character of Laurel, played by Felicia, reflects real-life experiences of failure and navigating expectations. Felicia opens up about her own personal failures and the impact they had on her. Overall, this episode provides insight into the creation process of the audio series and highlights the talented cast and comedic elements of the show. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of Felicia Day's inspiration and the emotions behind the characters. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Oct 31, 202421 min

S32 Ep 24Paranormal Pursuits Of Haunted Places

This episodes looks at the investigations of Parnormal events with investigators Ryan Buell, Ghost Adventures, The Dead Files, Josh Gates, Jack Osbourne and Katrini Weidman and Who Is Jack The Ripper ? Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Oct 31, 202426 min

S32 Ep 23Vampires, Werewolves, And Zombies Creatures Of The Night

A look at those creatures of the night featuring Joss Whedon on Buffy, James Marsters, Kathryn Leigh Scott Lara Parker both Of Dark Shadows, Kelly Overton Of Van Helsing and more treats. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus with a one year free trial and a low monthly forever price

Oct 31, 202434 min

S23 Ep 4Tiki Horror With Brian Yuzna

He is adapting Tales Of Blood Island featuring Zombies, Vodoo and Tiki, too Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A Low Forever Monthly Price less than a cup of coffee

Oct 31, 202436 min

S31 Ep 22Puritanical Horror In The Last Thing That Mary Saw

Director Edoardo Vitaletti told me about his past film about two women falling in love in a strict religious community with a murder that implicates one of them. Subscribe to Sci-Fi Talk Plus Free For A Lifetime Year Trial

Oct 31, 202420 min

S43 Ep 3Exploring Beyond : UFO'S And The Unknown with Mark Monroe and Paul Crowder

Today on Sci-Fi Talk, we tackle the enigma of UFOs and the intriguing questions that surround them. Tony Tellado, is joined by filmmakers Mark Monroe and Paul Crowder, the minds behind the new MGM Plus documentary series, "Beyond UFOs And The Unknown." They discuss the significant shift in how UFO sightings and encounters are now explored more openly and scientifically, thanks to groundbreaking admissions from the U.S. government and credible testimonies from officials and researchers. This documentary digs deep, highlighting interviews with notable figures like Whitley Strieber and Jacques Vallee, and it steers clear of sensationalism to offer genuine insights into the unexplained. Join us as we uncover the layers of this fascinating subject and what it means for the future of UFO research. Tune in and keep your mind open—there's a lot more to this phenomenon than meets the eye.

Oct 30, 202419 min

S15 Ep 7Trek Tuesday Dan Curry

Dan Curry has worked on every Trek series from Next Generation to Enterprise. At the time there was an auction of over 40 of his items. We chat about that and the challenges each of those series efx posed. Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus for a One Year Free Trial and a low forever price of 1.99 a month

Oct 29, 202420 min

S43 Ep 1Crafting Levels: Conversations on Love, Humanity, and Virtual Realities

Welcome to another exciting episode of "Sci-Fi Talk Podcast". Today, we're diving into the complexities of reality, both virtual and real, as we discuss the intriguing new film, "Levels". This film explores the intersection of a virtual world and our tangible existence, all wrapped around a compelling love story akin to a modern-day "Romeo and Juliet". Joining me are some incredible guests: Kara Gee, known for her role in "The Expanse" as Ash, Peter Mooney, who guest starred in "Winonna Earp" and plays Joe, and special effects maestro turned director Adam Stern, who has worked on "Falling Skies" and "Childhood's End". They share their insights on the film's themes of humanity, the essence of existence, and the challenges of portraying complex emotional connections in a high-tech narrative. Stay tuned as we explore the depth of their performances, the intricacies of the film’s world-building, and discuss what it means to truly be human in an age where technology blurs the lines of our reality. "Levels" hits theaters and streaming platforms on November 1st. If you’re a fan of thought-provoking sci-fi that takes you to another realm, this episode is for you. Let’s dive in! Subscribe To Sci-Fi Talk Plus For A One Year Free Trial

Oct 28, 202419 min