Fear, Courage, and Hot Water Heaters Part 2
In Part Two, Jamie and Matt continue their conversation on fear and courage — this time exploring regret, risk, and the power of support systems. From Jamie’s story of standing frozen at a trapeze in El Salvador to Matt’s reflections on leadership fears, they examine how fear can both protect and paralyze us. They discuss why “do not fear” is one of the most repeated themes across human history, how to build the courage muscle, and what leaders can do to step into discomfort rather than avoid it.
Experiencing Healthcare Podcast · Matt Staub, Jamie Preston
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Show Notes
Episode Notes
- Jamie’s story of regret: the trapeze he didn’t swing on in El Salvador.
- How regret often comes not from what we did, but what we avoided.
- Fear’s purpose: when it protects us and when it holds us back.
- Biblical and historical reminders that “do not fear” is a universal human need.
- The role of encouragement from spouses, friends, and colleagues in building courage.
- How fear of failure causes inaction — and why inaction is often worse than failure.
- Practical steps for leaders to cultivate courage and embrace discomfort.