Fear, Courage, and Hot Water Heaters Part 1
In this first part of a two-part conversation, Jamie and Matt Staub explore how fear and discomfort shape our growth as leaders and human beings. From lawnmower repairs to hot water heaters, from learning Spanish to leading in healthcare, they share personal stories of stepping outside their comfort zones. This episode dives into the difference between curiosity and defensiveness, why learning often feels uncomfortable, and how fear of failure or disappointment can hold us back.
Experiencing Healthcare Podcast · Matt Staub, Jamie Preston
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Show Notes
Episode Notes
- Jamie’s Mexico trip, Spanish lessons, and the joy of learning new things.
- The two types of people: those who want to learn more vs. those who defend what they already know.
- How discomfort fuels growth and why it’s often the best teacher.
- Matt’s story of replacing his hot water heater — and the lessons about courage, failure, and support.
- The role of fear of failure and fear of disappointment in leadership.
- Why every courageous act carries risk — and how to weigh it wisely.
- The importance of having a “cheering section” in your life, from spouses to mentors.