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EP 88: Securing the Infrastructure AI Just Made Vulnerable

Jun 9, 202634 min

EP 87: Backup, Control Gaps, and the Real Cost of Agentic AI Actions

May 27, 202629 min

EP 86: The Trusted Channel: AT Command Exploits and Cellular IoT Security

May 12, 202632 min

EP 85: From Colonial Pipeline to Agentic AI: What OT Security Actually Requires

Apr 28, 202636 min

EP 84: Airports as Critical Infrastructure: OT Security and Operational Disruption

Apr 15, 202637 min

Ep 84EP 83: Cybersecurity and Risk in a Decentralized Energy Grid

The surge in renewables and decentralized power is reshaping grids—and exposing them to new operational and cyber risks. In this episode, Rafael Narezzi, Co-Founder & CEO of Centrii, explains how rising connectivity widens the attack surface, leaving energy infrastructure increasingly vulnerable.

Mar 31, 202624 min

Ep 83EP 82: Kerberos in OT: RC4 Downgrade Attacks

Kerberos, a decades-old authentication protocol, creates hidden risks in OT environments. Dor Segal, security researcher team lead at Silverfort, discusses delegation abuse, cipher downgrade attacks, and person-in-the-middle threats—highlighting why legacy encryption, patching challenges, and operational constraints make identity security critical in industrial networks.

Mar 4, 202626 min

Ep 82EP 81: Root of Trust: Why Security Now Starts in Silicon

Rising software complexity in safety-critical industries is forcing cybersecurity requirements on systems previously not thought about before. David Sequino, CEO of OmniTrust (formerly ISS), talks about the need to secure digital certificates on life critical systems like cars and planes and the challenges in doing so.

Feb 17, 202634 min

Ep 81EP 80: The Dangers of White Label Devices

Many devices on modern networks aren’t what their labels claim. This episode, Rob King, Director of Applied Security Research at runZero, explores white-labeled surveillance and IoT hardware, why some vendors are banned by governments, and how hidden risks can spread across enterprises. Discovery, device fingerprinting, and protocol analysis reveal what’s really connected—and why knowing your true inventory is now essential for security, compliance, and trust.

Feb 3, 202638 min

Ep 80EP 79: Ignore OT Security At Your Own Peril

The growing importance of OT security, highlighting overlooked risks in critical infrastructure, legacy systems, and supply chains. Through real-world examples, Eric Durr, Chief Product Officer at Tenable, shows why OT security differs from IT, emphasizing visibility, resilience, and risk prioritization to protect safety, operations, and business continuity.

Jan 22, 202638 min

Ep 79EP 78: In Defense of Autonomous Vehicles

At Black Hat USA 2025, Dan Berte, IoT Director at Bitdefender, discusses the successes and failures of ride-sharing autonomous vehicles in San Francisco, and how these lessons might help design better IoT integrations of cities and AVs in the future.

Jan 7, 202623 min

Ep 78EP 77: Building a Cyber Physical System Device Library

Do you really know what’s on your network? A lot of OT devices are white labeled, meaning they have a brand name but under the hood they’re made by someone else. Sean Tufts, Field CTO for Claroty, explains how his team is using AI to sift through all the available data and build a cyber physical library that starts to add specificity to remediation operations, and improve cyber physical security overall

Dec 9, 202527 min

Ep 77EP 76: Why Security Certs for New Medical Devices Might Just Work

Diversity in healthcare devices complicates segmentation, security controls, and zero-trust approaches. New certifications aim to help. Bob Lyle, CRO of Medcrypt, identifies how layered defenses, rigorous cybersecurity requirements for new devices, continuous monitoring, and dark-web credential surveillance can reduce risk.

Nov 26, 202536 min

Ep 76EP 75: IoT-based Living Off The Land Attacks and Air-Gapping Solar Systems

At Black Hat USA 2025, Dan Berte, IoT Director at Bitdefender, revisits his talk last year about hacking solar panels in light of the blackout in Spain and Portugal. While the Iberian Peninsula blackout wasn’t an attack, it shows how sensitive these systems are when mixing old and new technologies, and how living off the land attacks might someday take advantage of that.

Nov 11, 202524 min

Ep 75EP 74: Turning Surveillance Cameras on their Axis

At Black Hat USA 2025, Noam Moshe from Claroty’s Team 82 revealed several vulnerabilities in Axis Communications’ IP camera systems, including a deserialization flaw that could let attackers run remote code. The team worked with Axis to patch the issues. Moshe says that this case highlights the broader security risks still common in the billions of common IoT devices in the world today.

Oct 28, 202528 min

Ep 74EP 73: BADBOX 2.0: Blurring the line between bots and human for cybercrime

Ad fraud driven by both humans and AI agents require new signals beyond traditional bot-vs-human checks. Gavin Reid and Lindsay Kaye from HUMAN Security discuss how monetization includes ad and click fraud (peach pit), selling residential proxy access, and operating botnets for hire and preventing harm requires dismantling criminal infrastructure and collaboration across industry, since many infected devices cannot be practically cleansed by end users.

Oct 14, 202537 min

Ep 73EP 72: Does a CISSP Certification Make Sense For OT?

Certification exams increasingly reflect the IT OT convergence, acknowledging that many protections apply across both domains requiring holistic security approaches rather than siloed solutions. John France, CISO at ISC2, explains that as threats grow more complex, certifications, continuous learning, and diverse skills are essential to building a resilient global workforce.

Sep 30, 202527 min

Ep 72EP 71: Meeting Cybersecurity Requirements That Don’t Yet Exist

The EU’s new Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) sets higher security requirements but leaves many technical details undecided. This puts pressure on vendors of connected or software-based products to either redesign, retrofit, or withdraw from the market. According to Roland Marx, Senior Product Manager at Swissbit, the CRA’s three-year rollout is meant to give companies time to adapt while regulators finalize the specifics.

Sep 16, 202547 min

Ep 71EP 70: Securing Medical Devices You Might Not Have Thought to Secure

Healthcare organizations are prone to the same weaknesses that any other office or manufacturing site may have. Sonu Shankar, Chief Product Officer at Phosphorus Cybersecurity, explains how the devices you might not suspect might be the ones to bring down your organization if they’re not secured. That includes the printer used to print patient wristbands.

Sep 2, 202533 min

Ep 70EP 69: Adding Crypto Agility to OT Systems

Quantum computers could break today’s encryption, leaving many OT systems—which often lack encryption entirely—at even greater risk. Dave Krauthamer, Field CTO at QuSecure, warns that nation-state attackers may target critical infrastructure like power, water, and food supplies first, making it urgent to adopt quantum-resistant cryptography across both IT and OT systems.

Aug 19, 202539 min

Ep 69EP 68: Hacking Cruise Ships and Data Centers

This is a story where one maritime company found multiple vendors maintaining unrestricted VPN access to systems across a cruise vessel, exposing safety-critical functions to potential compromise. Bill Moore, CEO of Xona Systems, returns to Error Code to talk about how that company and others, such as data center operators, are recognizing their latent multiple-vendor OT exposure and learning how to address it today.

Aug 5, 202533 min

Ep 68EP 67: Collateral Damage

Operational technology (OT) systems are no longer limited to nation-states; criminal groups and hacktivists now actively target these systems, often driven by financial or ideological motives. Kurt Gaudette, Vice President of Intelligence and Services at Dragos, explains why these systems might not even be the primary targets.

Jul 22, 202523 min

Ep 67EP 66: Secure only the OT code that actually runs

Many organizations spend valuable security resources fixing vulnerabilities in code that never actually runs—an inefficient and often unnecessary effort. Jeff Williams, CTO and founder at Contrast Security, says that 62% of open source libraries included in software are never even loaded into memory, let alone executed. This means only 38% of libraries are typically active and worth prioritizing.

Jul 8, 202523 min

Ep 66EP 65: Hacking Critical Infrastructure Through Supply Chains

Critical Infrastructure software lacks the strict liability standards found in industries like automotive manufacturing, leading to minimal accountability for insecure products when they get exploited. Alex Santos, CEO of Fortress Information Security, explains how they’re typically hired by buyers of ICS equipment—such as utilities—to assess and mitigate supply chain risks, including working with OEMs to improve security.

Jun 24, 202530 min

Ep 65EP 64: Volt Typhoon

While cybersecurity threats targeting critical infrastructure, particularly focusing on the vulnerabilities of operational technology (OT) and industrial control systems (ICS).mostly originate on the business or IT side, there’s increasing concern about attacks crossing into OT, which could result in catastrophic consequences, especially in centralized systems like utilities. Michael Welch, managing director from MorganFranklin Cyber, discusses how Volt Typhoon and other attacks are living off the land, and lying in wait.

Jun 10, 202543 min

Ep 64EP 63: Chief Hacking Officer

This is a story about a Chief Hacking Officer who draws on his expertise in physical and virtual security assessments—along with some intuitive AI-driven coding—to safeguard Operational Technology. Colin Murphy of Frenos and Mitnick Security talks about how some of his early assessment work with Kevin Mitnick is helping him with OT security today.

May 27, 202527 min

Ep 63EP 62: Defending the Unknown in OT Security

ROI is always a tricky subject in cybersecurity. If you’re paying millions of dollars in securing your OT networks, you’d want to be able to show that it was worth it. Andrew Hural of UnderDefense talks about the need for continuous vigilance, risk management, and proactive defense, acknowledging both the human and technological elements in cybersecurity and how just because something didn’t happen doesn’t mean that it didn’t.

May 13, 202531 min

Ep 62EP 61: Applying Zero Trust to OT systems

Zero Trust is a security model based on default-deny policies and fine-grained access control governed by identity, authentication, and contextual signals. For RSAC 2025, John Kindervag, Chief Evangelist of Illumio and the creator of Zero Trust, talks about introducing a "protect surface" into legacy OT systems —isolating critical data, applications, assets, or services into secure zones for targeted Zero Trust implementation.

Apr 30, 202536 min

Ep 61EP 60: Hacking Solar Power Inverters

Solar power systems are rapidly becoming essential elements of power grids throughout the world, especially in the US and EU. However, cybersecurity for these systems is often an afterthought, creating a growing risk to grid stability and availability. Daniel de Santos, Head of Research at Forescout, talks about his recent research into vulnerabilities associated with solar panel investors, how they might affect the power grid or the end-user, and what we can do about it.

Apr 15, 202539 min

Ep 60EP 59: Automotive Hacking In Your Own Garage

Gone are the days when you could repair your own car. Even ICE cars have more electronics than ever before. Alexander Pick is an independent hardware hacker specializing in automotive systems. He says if you start off small, like looking at ECUs, there’s a lot of great research yet to be done by both hobbyists and professionals alike.

Apr 1, 202536 min

Ep 59EP 58: Hacking Office Supplies

It’s becoming easier for criminals to use counterfeit or altered chips in common office products, such as printer toner cartridges, with the aim of espionage or simple financial gain. Tony Moor, Senior Director Of Silicon Lab Services For IOActive, explains how the hacking embedded silicon within common objects in our day to day lives is becoming more common, and what the consequences of this lack of security might mean.

Mar 18, 202545 min

Ep 58EP 57: Strengthening Embedded Device Security with Cloud-Based SCADA

Embedded devices need basic security measures like multi-factor authentication and unique credentials to reduce vulnerabilities and protect against cyber threats. Mauritz Botha, co-founder and CTO of XiO Inc., explains that cloud-based SCADA can update old systems and provide the visibility that’s currently missing.

Mar 5, 202533 min

Ep 57EP 56: Hacking OT and ICS in the Era of Cloud and Automation

As industrial enterprises lurch toward digital transformation and Industry 4.0, a new report looks at the security OT systems and finds it wanting. Grant Geyer, the Chief Strategy Officer for Claroty, talks about the findings from over one million devices in the field today, and what industries must do now to secure them.

Feb 18, 202542 min

Ep 56EP 55: Building Secure Storage for Autonomous Vehicles

I recently rode in a Waymo, Google’s self-driving taxi service, and it was fantastic. What if we took that vehicle off the safe roads of California and put it in a warzone like Ukraine? If it was captured, could the enemy get its data or its algorithms? Brent Hansen, Chief Growth Officer at Cigent, talks about the data risks associated with autonomous vehicles and remote servers, and how data security is essential in these in the field locations.

Feb 4, 202528 min

Ep 55EP 54: From Cyber Chaos to Control: Lessons from a Kansas Water District

Imagine your best worst day during a cyber attack. Can you switch to manual systems in case of a failure? Has your team practiced for that? Dave Gunter, OT Cybersecurity Director at Armexa, discusses how a water and waste water utility in Kansas responded correctly to a cyberattack in 2024 by falling back to manual and issuing clear, and concise press releases to assure the public that their water was safe to drink.

Jan 21, 202534 min

Ep 54EP 53: Securing Smart OT Systems Already In The Field

This is the story of how the security of OT devices in the field can be modernized virtual isolation in the cloud, adding both authentication and encryption into the mix. Bill Moore, founder and CEO of Xona, explains how you can virtualize the OT network and interact with it, adding 2FA and encryption to legacy systems already in the field.

Jan 7, 202531 min

Ep 53EP 52: Hacking Cellular-Enabled IoT Devices

This is the story of the secret life of cellular chips and why we need to mitigate against the unintended access they provide. Deral Heiland, Principal Security Research for IoT at Rapid 7, describes a research project he presented at the IoT Village at DEF CON 32 where they compiled AT command manuals from various vendors, discovering unexpected functionalities, such as internal web services.

Dec 18, 202437 min

Ep 52EP 51: Hacking High-Performance Race Cars

When we think of IoT, we first think of our smart light bulbs, our smart TVs, our smart baby monitors. However, we don't typically associate IoT with high-performance race cars, and yet they collect terabytes of data each race. Austin Allen, Director of Solutions Architecture at Airlock Digital, discusses the growing presence of smart devices and the responsibility of securing them—should it be the developers who write the code, or the individuals who implement it?

Dec 4, 202443 min

Ep 51EP 50: Keeping The Lights On In Ukraine

What would happen if your GPS signal were jammed? It would impact more than just navigation – you'd also lose access to financial data and power. Joe Marshall, Senior IoT Strategist and Threat Researcher at Cisco Talos, discusses an innovative solution to maintain the country's power grid operations in the event of GPS jamming, whether it's a precautionary measure or an act of war.

Nov 19, 202444 min

Ep 50EP 49: Hacking Android-Based ICS Devices

Cybercriminal tactics against ICS include direct threats against individuals for MFA credentials, sometimes escalating to physical violence if they won’t share. Jim Coyle, US Public Sector CTO for Lookout, warns about the increasing use of Android in critical Industrial Control Systems (ICS), such as HVAC systems, and how stealing MFA tokens from mobile devices could affect critical services like healthcare, finance, and water supply, depending on the goals of the attackers.

Nov 5, 202439 min

Ep 49EP 48: The New Insider Threat: Hacking Corporate Office Devices

If smart buildings are vulnerable to hacking, what about smart offices? Even devices like printers and lighting systems could give an attacker a way in. John Terrill, CSO at Phosphorus, recalls a moment while working at a hedge fund when he found himself in a room filled with priceless art. He realized that the security cameras safeguarding these artworks were operating on outdated software, potentially containing known vulnerabilities.

Oct 22, 202440 min

Ep 48EP 47: Hacking Smart Buildings

If you are in IT, you are probably not thinking about the risks associated with the Otis Elevator or the Coke machine. Maybe you should. Chester Wisnieski, the director and global field CTO at Sophos, points out that IoT devices, big and small, create an outsized threat to any organization. And that’s why IoT vendors need to secure these devices, even if they only “phone home” for more Coke. If they’re on your network, they need to be secured.

Oct 8, 202441 min

Ep 47EP 46: Hacking Israeli-made Water Treatment Devices In Pennsylvania

Political hacktivism once mainly focused on website defacement. Now it has shifted to targeting physical devices, affecting critical infrastructure such as water treatment plants. At Black Hat USA 2024, Noam Moshe from Claroty highlighted how the HMIs in PLC devices from Israeli manufacturers may be susceptible to political attacks by nation-state actors using unknown vulnerabilities in the PComm protocol.

Sep 24, 202433 min

Ep 46EP 45: Laser Fault Injections on a Shoestring Budget

What if you could build your own embedded security tools, glitching devices for a fraction of the cost that you might expect. Like having a $150,000 laser setup for less than $500. A talk at Black Hat USA 2024 says you can. Sam Beaumont (Panth13r), Director of Transportation, mobility and cyber physical systems at NetSPI, and Larry Trowell (patch), Director of hardware embedded systems at NetSPI, along with a team of others, say that you can. Their talk, Laser Beams & Light Streams: Letting Hackers Go Pew Pew, Building Affordable Light-Based Hardware Security Tooling, should be a wake up call for all IoT and OT device vendors who should defend our IoT and OT devices, even against the unlikely attacks. Because soon enough, those attacks will become likely.

Sep 10, 202432 min

Ep 45EP 44: Performing Security Assessments on ICS systems

Too few vulnerabilities in industrial control systems (ICS) are assigned CVEs because of client non-disclosure agreements. This results in repeatedly discovering the same vulnerabilities for different clients, especially in critical infrastructure. Don C. Weber from IOActive shares his experiences as an ICS security professional and suggests improvements, including following the SANS best practices for ICS security..

Aug 27, 202434 min

Ep 44EP 43: Hacking Large-Scale Off-Grid Solar Systems and Other Consumer IoT Devices

At DEF CON 32, in the ICS village, researchers disclosed vulnerabilities in home and commercial solar panel systems that could potentially disrupt the grid. Dan Berte, Director of IoT security for Bitdefender, discusses his more than a decade in IoT, how the vendor maturity often isn’t there for our smart TVs or even for our solar panels, so reporting vulnerabilities sometimes goes nowhere. That doesn’t stop defenders like Dan, who, along with his team, work hard to change and to educate the industry.

Aug 13, 202450 min

Ep 43EP 42: OT-CERT

The resources available at small utilities are scarce, and that’s a big problem because small water, gas, and electric facilities are increasingly under attack. Dawn Capelli of Dragos is the Director of OT-CERT, an independent organization that provides free resources to educate and even protect small and medium sized utilities from attack.

Jul 30, 202434 min

Ep 42EP 41: Firmware SBOMs, Zero Trust, And IoT Truth Bombs

For the last twenty years we’ve invested in software security without parallel development in firmware security. Why is that? Tom Pace, co-founder and CEO of NetRise, returns to Error Code to discuss the need for firmware software bills of materials, and why Zero Trust is a great idea yet so poorly implemented. As in Episode 30, Tom is a straight shooter, imparting necessary truth bombs about our industry. Fortunately he’s optimistic about our future.

Jul 16, 202441 min

Ep 41EP 40: Hacking IoT Surveillance Cameras For Espionage Operations

That camera above your head might not seem like a good foreign target, yet in the Ukraine there’s evidence of Russian-backed hackers passively counting the number of foreign aid workers at the local train stations. Andrew Hural of UnderDefense talks about the need to secure everything around a person, everything around an organization, and everything around a nation because every one can be a target.

Jul 2, 202428 min

Ep 40EP 39: Hacking Water Systems and the OT Skills Gap

A critical skills gap in Operational Technology security could have a real effect on your water supply and other areas of the critical infrastructures. Christopher Walcutt from DirectDefense explains how the IT OT convergence, and the lack of understanding of what OT systems are, might be contributing to the spate of water systems attacks in 2024.

Jun 18, 202440 min