Ecosystemic Futures

In this inspiring episode, we explore how ecosystem approaches and collaborative leadership reshape global industries with Amina Razvi, former CEO of the Sustainable Apparel Coalition and current Chief Partnerships Officer at Travalyst. Drawing on her unique background spanning architecture, sustainability, and industry transformation, Razvi reveals how effective coalitions can drive systemic change.Key themes:How unlikely partnerships between competitors created unprecedented industry collaborationThe evolution of the Higg Index into a global standard adopted by 24,000+ organizationsWhy systems thinking and cross-sector collaboration are essential for sustainable transformationThe critical role of data standardization and metrics in driving performance improvementLessons learned from apparel industry transformation that can accelerate progress in travel and tourismThis fascinating discussion challenges conventional thinking about leadership and offers powerful insights into how ecosystem approaches can address complex global challenges. Razvi makes a compelling case that "partnership is the new leadership" and shares practical frameworks for building coalitions that drive meaningful change.Guest:Amina Razvi, Former CEO of the Sustainable Apparel Coalition (now Cascale) Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai PartnersSeries Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research CenterDyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this comprehensive episode, we explore the multifaceted nature of modern leadership with Dr. Brenda Fellows, President and CEO of Fellows Corporate Consortium. She is a distinguished industrial, organizational, and clinical psychologist who partners with corporate boards and C-Suite executives across Fortune 20-500 companies. Drawing on over two decades of strategy and management consulting experience, Dr. Fellows reveals her groundbreaking framework combining eight distinct intelligences and four capitals that shape effective leadership.Key themes include:How cognitive, emotional, authentic, cultural, social, spiritual, humility, and leadership intelligence work togetherThe integration of human, resource, political, and community capital in organizational successUnderstanding different leadership styles and their impact under comfort versus stressWhy psychological awareness and behavioral science are critical "hard skills" for organizational transformationHow to bridge gaps between learning systems, knowledge systems, and policy shaping This fascinating discussion challenges conventional thinking about leadership capabilities, offering unprecedented insight into how organizations can develop more effective, holistic approaches to leadership in an increasingly complex world. As a faculty member at UC Berkeley's Haas School of Business and Harvard University Medical School, Dr. Fellows shares practical frameworks for assessing and improving leadership across all organizational levels.Guest:President & CEO, Principal Strategy & Management Consultant, Industrial/Organizational Psychologist at Fellows Corporate Consortium, LLCCo-Hosts: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai PartnersSeries Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research CenterDyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this thought-provoking episode, we explore the transformation of education in an era of rapid technological change and workplace evolution. Dr. Steven Johnson, founder and CEO of EDSENSE and former senior vice president of innovation at Harvard University, examines how emerging technologies, changing workforce demands, and new learning models are reshaping education's future.Key themes addressed:The convergence of AI, learning science, and personalized educationNew models for lifelong learning and skill developmentThe evolving relationship between education and employmentInnovative approaches to competency-based learning and credentialsTechnology's role in transforming traditional educational paradigmsThe future of hybrid learning environments and personalized education pathsThis dynamic discussion offers unprecedented insight into how educational institutions, employers, and learners can adapt to and thrive in an increasingly complex and rapidly changing landscape. Dr. Johnson makes a compelling case for reimagining education systems to better serve diverse learner needs while maintaining educational quality and accessibility.The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, presented by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works, a global firm that helps organizations and nations navigate ecosystemic transformation. As our world is increasingly digital and interconnected – ecosystemic models are reshaping society, industry, economy, and policy and reframing how we build for resilient futures. Ecosystemic Futures investigates this expansive and hyper-connected paradigm and explores frameworks to help us achieve more beneficial futures.Guest:Dr. Steven Johnson is the Founder and CEO of EDSENSE, LLC, Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai PartnersSeries Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research CenterDyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

This landmark episode convenes leading aerospace, energy, and advanced technologies experts to explore game-changing innovations that challenge our current understanding of what's possible. From quantum physics to advanced propulsion, we examine operational technologies displaying capabilities previously confined to science fiction - including craft demonstrating extraordinary energy capacity, trans-medium travel, and apparent space-time manipulation.Our distinguished panel delves into critical themes:Observed advanced aerospace capabilities that transcend current engineering limitations, including sustained flight without conventional propulsionBreakthrough possibilities in quantum communications, energy extraction from vacuum states, and space-time metric engineeringThe convergence of biology, physics, and advanced materials leading to transformative applications in medicine, computing, aerospace, energy, and human potentialHow reducing institutional barriers and stigma can accelerate technological innovation across sectorsThe economic and security imperatives driving investigation into these advanced technologiesThe critical role of interdisciplinary collaboration in unlocking new scientific frontiersThis extraordinary discussion offers unprecedented insights into the ways that emerging technologies and anomalous phenomena reshape our understanding of physics, engineering possibilities, and our future. Our experts make a compelling case for bold innovation and open scientific inquiry to maintain technological leadership and solve global challenges.Guests:Dr. Hal Puthoff is President & CEO at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin & EarthTech International, Inc.Ryan Graves is Co-founder and Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace (ASA), a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.Dr. Travis Taylor, a Scientist, Engineer, Author, Futurist, and Television Personality, is the Principal Research Scientist for Radiance Technologies.  Co-Hosts: Anna Brady-Estevez, Co-Chair US interagency Space Economy & Advanced Manufacturing Working GroupsLarry Forsley is the Chief Technology Officer of Global Energy Corporation Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai PartnersDyan Finkhousen, CEO of Shoshin Works; Ecosystemic Model Advisor for NASA and Space ForceSeries Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research CenterDyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Description In this insightful episode, we explore the transformative intersection of artificial intelligence, autonomous systems, and human decision-making in aerospace applications. Through the lens of national security and technological innovation, we examine the critical pathways and challenges in deploying AI capabilities responsibly. The discussion spans the complex ecosystem dependencies between human operators and autonomous systems, the importance of justified confidence in AI adoption, and the foundational role of ethical frameworks in shaping future technologies. Guest: Colonel Tucker "Cinco" Hamilton (USAF, Ret.), Former Experimental Fighter Test Pilot and Commander of the F-35 Integrated Test Force, CEO of STEM-ed; @cincohamilton Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners This conversation underscores the necessity of balanced human-machine collaboration, cross-sector partnerships, and comprehensive education in navigating the transition to AI-enabled autonomous systems. Col. Hamilton shares insights from his extensive military experience while highlighting the importance of ethical consideration in technological advancement - from battlefield applications to educational initiatives preparing the next generation of innovators.  Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode, Wendy Gonzalez, CEO of Sama, joins us to discuss the complexities and opportunities of AI implementation. Together, we explore the balance between business strategy, cost, and environmental impact in AI, along with the rising energy demands and potential of renewable solutions. Gonzalez highlights the importance of regulatory compliance to guard against cybersecurity risks and biases and advocates for public-private partnerships in fostering responsible AI. We close with a look at AI's potential for social impact, including job creation and opportunities for underserved communities, emphasizing the need for diversity and representation to ensure AI benefits everyone. Guest: Wendy Gonzalez, CEO of Sama Co-Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode, we are joined by guest Mischa Dohler, Vice President of Emerging Technologies at Ericsson, as we explore the revolutionary concept of the "Internet of Skills." Dohler explains how emerging technology seeks to democratize access to skills by enabling remote, real-time expertise transfer through digital platforms. One of the most promising applications is telesurgery, which could address critical healthcare challenges by combining reliable communication networks with medical robotics. He shares examples of telesurgery's potential, such as in stroke and heart attack treatments, while highlighting the FDA’s regulatory role in this space. Beyond healthcare, Dohler emphasizes how the Internet of Skills can transform education in various industries. He underscores the importance of creating standards to ensure interoperability and equitable access, making these advancements available to all, regardless of location. Guest: Mischa Dohler, Vice President of Emerging Technologies at Ericsson Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode, we dive into the cutting-edge world of AI simulations and their transformative impact on societal governance. Rob Auten, CEO and co-founder of Hexgram, shares insights from his experience developing AI-powered worlds for gaming and beyond. Joined by Marco Annunziata, the discussion explores how AI-driven simulations reshape how we understand complex systems, predict outcomes, and craft more dynamic interactions. From creating immersive, emotionally engaging gaming environments to exploring AI’s role in industrial settings and policy-making, this conversation reveals the power and potential of simulation technology across industries.  Guest: Rob Auten, Chief Executive Officer at Hexagram Co-Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts:  Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

 In this episode, we explore innovative solutions for climate resilience, emphasizing the role of AI, big data, and effective communication. Guest Sharron McPherson and co-hosts Dyan and Vik discuss the challenges of defining and measuring resilience, aligning stakeholder values, and implementing scalable solutions for small and medium-sized businesses. The conversation also highlights the importance of storytelling and digital media in improving the communication of resilience strategies. Guest: Sharron McPherson, Co-Founder & CEO at Climate Resilience Tech Company Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode of the Ecosystemic Futures Podcast we explore the integration of technology into the human experience with Dr. Ali Hossaini, Research Fellow at the Institut d'études avancées de Nantes at King's College in London . Dr. Ali and our hosts Dr. Vikram Shyam and Dyan Finkhousen explore the parallels between biological ecosystems and business ecosystems, emphasizing the need for multi-disciplinary approaches to tackle complex societal problems and achieve creative evolution. Guest: Dr. Ali Hossaini, Research Fellow, Institut d'études avancées de Nantes | King's College London, Principal Investigator, Health & Social Equity, Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast, we explore the transformative potential of advanced technologies in healthcare with Katie Meyer, Vice President of Public Affairs at Novocure. Katie discusses the crucial role of incentive systems and governance in driving healthcare innovation and highlights the challenges of navigating a highly regulated landscape. Join us as we explore the interplay between governance, incentives, and emerging technologies in creating a resilient and innovative healthcare ecosystem. Guest:  Katie Meyer, Vice President Public Affairs at Novocure Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

This episode of the Ecosystemic Futures Podcast explores the opportunities and challenges of deep tech innovation, with a focus on emerging technologies like quantum computing, fusion energy, and their implications for society, industry, and national security.  The conversation features insights from Laura Thomas, a former CIA case officer and current advisor to cutting-edge startups, and Co-Hosts Vikram Shyam and Dyan Finkhousen. They discuss the complexities of regulating rapidly evolving technologies, the need for better collaboration between the public and private sectors, and the importance of addressing sustainability and equity concerns alongside technological progress. Guest: Laura Thomas, Advisor for a quantum technology company, Infleqtion and fusion energy company, Fuse. Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Anna Brady-Estevez and our hosts discuss what it takes to stand up a new layer of infrastructure - extending our industries, economies, and possibilities into the vast expanse of the space economy. On track to triple in the next decade, the space economy offers an extraordinary environment for innovation, entrepreneurship and investment. Successful development of our next generation of infrastructure requires deeper understanding and orchestration across complementary ecosystems for investment, education, policy, technology and services development. Platforming the space ecosystem necessitates exceptionally bold vision and investment. Guest Anna Brady-Estevez brings the receipts, sharing a wealth of examples of companies making it happen - who are building use cases and capabilities to help lead the way in virtually every sector of our economy. Anna and our co-hosts discuss the pressing need for large-scale infrastructure investment and tools to make capital more accessible to democratize participation in the space economy and drive generational benefits for our society. Guest: Anna Brady-Estevez, Senior Investment Advisor and (Venture) Partner at the U.S. Small Business Administration Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts:  Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Join us for an inspiring glimpse into the making of NEOM - arguably the world's leading sustainable, cognitive city and a living lab platform to evaluate the application of advanced technologies to elevate the human experience. In this episode, co-hosts Vikram Shyam and Marco Annunziata connect with our guest, Mansoor Hanif to explore the intersection of technology innovation, and economics - and unpack the myth of smart city design. Three factors are contributing to this next generation of truly smart cities: cohesive connectivity; ecosystemic data architecture; and universal standards for interoperability. A strong command of the regulatory landscape supports the development of an AI orchestration layer and a framework of transparency, trust, and the high-fidelity 'data halo'. Mansoor shares his perpsective regarding the key considerations and risks related to ecosystemic design, societal development and the need for future technologies to prioritize sustainability and ethical considerations. Tune in for a brilliant discussion of the future of economic development around the world. Guest: Mansoor Hanif Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts:  Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In the latest episode of the Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, co-hosts Dyan and Marco engage with guest Dr. Julia Mossbridge in a compelling discussion on the interplay between love, artificial intelligence (AI), and time. The conversation explores the transformative potential of integrating unconditional love with AI to enhance professional and personal lives, as well as its impact on mental health and governance. Dr. Julia Mossbridge shares her insights on time perception, AI’s emotional intelligence, and the innovative concept of decentralized AI systems, emphasizing the importance of diversity in thought and experience. The episode highlights the necessity of empathy, trust, and universal love in designing resilient AI systems that can contribute societal outcomes. Guest: Dr. Julia Mossbridge Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts:  Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode, our panelists delve into the transformation of journalism and its influence on policymaking, emphasizing the vital role of information channels within local communities. They discuss the difficulties local journalists encounter when addressing national issues and the repercussions of dwindling local news. The conversation also examines the intersection of technology and policy, focusing in on immigration and reflecting on the necessity for detailed, on-the-ground reporting.  Guest: Maya Rao  Co-Hosts: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Dr. David Bray joins us with a brilliant exploration of the tension between openness and safeguards for policy professionals in an increasingly interconnected world. Dr. Bray and his colleagues discuss the inevitable shift from linear, structured systems to ecosystemic economies - and the criticality of futures literacy for policy professionals. Advanced technologies, democratized models, and the proliferation of collective intelligence are converging in ways that will challenge the very foundations of governance model design and implementation. In this episode we contemplate the very real possibility that we have reached the practical limitations of existing economic models and that something new is beginning to take shape to inform economic resilience and prosperity for our complex, dynamic, and interconnected world. Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this insightful episode, we delve into the pivotal role that heavy industries, such as steel and cement, play in the global economy and the formidable challenge of decarbonization they face. We explore the emissions produced by these manufacturing processes and the potential of hydrogen-based solutions - taking a comprehensive look at various strategies for transitioning to a low-carbon economy, the importance of energy efficiency, ecosystem interdependencies, and stable policy frameworks. This discussion underscores the necessity of trust, transparency, and inclusivity to navigate this critical transition. Guests: Aaron Maltais and Bjorn Nykvist

In today's episode, we delve into the future of food production, exploring the cutting-edge innovations transforming agriculture, technology, and consumer behavior. Join us and our guests Kasia Gora, Co-Founder and CTO of SCiFi Foods, and Joshua March, Co-Founder and CEO of SCiFi Foods, as we navigate the ethical and environmental implications of cultivated meat, a solution that aims to address global food sustainability challenges. Guests: Kasia, Gora, Co-Founder and CTO of SCiFi Foods, Joshua March, Co-Founder and CEO of SCiFi Foods Co-Hosts:  Vikram Shyam, PhD, Futurist, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners  Series Hosts:  Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In this episode, we delve into the crucial role of energy storage and access in emerging markets, with guest Connie Stacey, CEO and Founder of Grengine Inc. Connie discusses her innovative approach to addressing energy poverty by making renewable energy more accessible through advanced battery storage systems. Over a billion people lack basic energy access despite improvements, leading to severe health consequences. We explore the potential of DC-based systems for efficient energy infrastructure in emerging markets and the importance of secure battery technology, ensuring the safety and reliability of renewable energy solutions. We also discuss the challenges of transitioning to renewable energy, the rapid growth of energy access in developing economies, and the pressing need for industry standardization and innovative solutions. Tune in to understand how inclusive growth and a focus on well-orchestrated ecosystems can power progress for a sustainable energy future. Guest: Connie Stacey - Grengine Inc. Co-Hosts:Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research CenterMarco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts:Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In today's episode of the Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, we are thrilled to have Captain Alexandra Hagerty, Fleet Superintendent for The Pasha Group, join us. Captain Hagerty's impressive career includes roles as Master of the Hospital Ship Africa Mercy and the USNS Shughart. Beyond her professional accomplishments, she is a respected writer and panelist on international maritime affairs, a Fellow of the Nautical Institute UK, and the Founder of the charity ‘Captains Without Borders.’ We delve into the dynamic maritime industry, tackling issues like recruitment and retention in a mature industry sector. Captain Hagerty offers insights from her own vantage point and journey, and we explore the unique considerations that must factor into successful maritime ecosystem futures - global reach, distinctive lifestyles, and the critical importance of crew retention within the industry. We also explore autonomous shipping and electrification, hydrogen fuelling, the "upcycling" of vessels, and the economic and environmental advantages of these emerging technologies. Join us as we navigate the challenges and potential futures that offer great promise in reshaping the maritime landscape. Guest: Captain Alexandra Hagerty, Fleet Superintendent for The Pasha Group Co-Hosts: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Vikram Shyam, PhD, Futurist, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

In today’s episode, we explore the ecosystemic patterns across industry, society, and policy as Dyan Finkhousen and Marco Annunziata reflect on the intersection of diverse perspectives that have emerged from Seasons 1-4 of the Ecosystemic Futures Podcast.  Dyan and Marco delve into an insightful discussion about the interplay between advanced and general purpose technologies, trust, and governance - unpacking the opportunities and obstacles posed by technological advancements. They chase this back to the evolving work and organizational adaptation landscape, with implications for innovation, resilience, and lifelong learning. Tune in for an enlightening exploration of the dynamic forces shaping our world today and setting the stage for our future. Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners 

In this episode, we explore the pivotal role of ecosystemic models across industries, underscoring the importance of inclusive design for resilient futures. Our guest, Krista Pawley, a luminary in impact-driven initiatives, articulates the importance of transparency, community engagement, and contextual awareness in shaping decisions. Through her insights, we navigate the power of collaboration and diverse perspectives in forging impactful solutions. Pawley talks about the importance of trust in the digital realm and in human interactions - and articulates a clear pathway of the practical steps organizations, leaders, and youth can take in order to achieve a culture of trust. In this episode we also unpack the importance of inclusivity, pushing quickly past the vanity metrics to the meaningful value drivers of an inclusive approach to systems design. Guest: Krista Pawley, Founder of Imperative Impact, co-founder of Wavemakers, co-chair of EXCITE & one of the co-founders of SingularityU Canada Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, PhD, Futurist, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Embark on a journey through the complexities of our global plastic crisis with Impact Entrepreneur, Mimi Wu. She reveals a stark truth: recycling alone is not the solution. We delve into the intricate web of environmental, social, and economic factors driving this issue, and discuss the urgent actions needed to tackle the plastic problem at its core. Guest: Mimi Wu, Founder & CEO of Global Green Solutions and Co-founder & CEO of Myanmar Recycles Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

This hard-hitting episode exposes the alarming crisis of healthcare-acquired infections in U.S. facilities - and the ecosystemic factors compounding the threat. Our guest, Sarah Beatty of Culturewell, pulls no punches in critiquing the reactive "firefighting" status quo within the healthcare system... a passionately well-intended system, yet increasingly missing the life-saving answers readily available in the meta-data. Beatty shares startling data and argues that the missing link is facility-specific environmental monitoring to precisely identify hygiene gaps and deploy cleaning resources—and data-driven solutions. Join this vital discussion shaping the pathway from a reactive to proactive, data-driven model for infection prevention - one resilient to the intensifying challenges across interconnected environments straining healthcare systems. Beatty makes a powerful case for waging and winning this winnable war. Guest: Sarah Beatty, Founder & CEO, Culturewell Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Dive into the power of regenerative agriculture to revitalize our food ecosystems. This episode explores the ways regenerative farming methods can enhance soil health and unlock more nutrient-dense foods - nourishing people and planet. Guest Tina Owens, a leader at the intersection of agriculture, tech and wellness, illuminates the pivotal role emerging technologies play in optimizing and scaling regenerative practices. We discuss the ways AI, molecular mapping, and lifecycle assessments are reshaping food production into ecosystem-reviving force. Don't miss this compelling vision for an ecosystemic future of sustainable nourishment. Guest: Tina Owens, Managing Director @ Nutrient Density Alliance, Strategic Advisor @ Regenerative Food Systems Investment, Non-Profit Board Member of Non-GMO Project and Mad Agriculture & Farmer Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works  

The US Government’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is actively working to establish the framework for a commercial economy on the moon - convening an ecosystemic collaboration to make it happen by 2035. DARPA's program manager for this project, called Luna10, Michael Nayak, call sign Orbit, joins the podcast to discuss the approach of leveraging what we know from Earth economies and commercial industries in order to create a unified, self-sustaining lunar economy. To activate the ecosystem for the lunar economy - Orbit and team are convening 12 commerical entities and a host of value chain enablers to build the framework. Join us for more fascinating discussions regarding the ways that ecosystems are shaping new economic engines. Guest: Michael Nayak, call sign Orbit, Program Manager for DARPA program Luna10 and Logic Co-Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

The intergenerational transmission of values, norms, and aspirations has always shaped expectations for transcendent belonging. What does it mean to live a good life, to be successful? The integrated ecosystem that supports human flourishing encompasses all aspects of society, industry, and policy. With generative AI anticipated to impact society more than any other technological advancement in recent decades - we now face the first generation, specifically Gen Alpha, that will age entirely with the benefits and opportunities of this advanced technology. In this episode, Mica Le John - entrepreneur, educator, and writer - joins us to tug at the core threads that bind all people regardless of demographic and explore ways that intergenerational collaboration with advanced technologies can lead to solutions for wicked problems and a more resilient future for humanity. Guest: Mica Le John, Entrepreneur, Educator & Writer Co-Hosts: Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

We're often unaware of security vulnerabilities until there's a breach. In today's rush to leverage AI, organizations often overestimate security and underestimate risk, while teams expose unique AI threats to otherwise reasonably safe businesses.   Organizations are also changing the way they use AI - shifting from owning it to renting it. This delivers faster results but less control over important data and access, introducing risks that organizations may not yet fully recognize. Protect AI leaders join us to explain the differences between "safe," "secure," and "governed" in AI and how to safely create an AI-empowered future.   Guests:  Daryan "D" Dehghanpisheh, Co-Founder, Protect AI Marcello Salvati, Senior Engineer & Researcher, Protect AI   Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works    Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Civilization came together when people agreed on a shared "code" about building communities and cities. Today, some believe there is a need for a new layer of accountable, transparent, and contestable code - to support our digitally-enabled society. Join us for a conversation with Ben Cerveny, President and Founder of the Foundation for Public Code, an organization helping public institutions develop and maintain public code in a tech-empowered society. While it may seem that tech giants have the edge on developing systems at scale - the public sector can assume a leading role in the development of public code, and inform beneficial future pathways for society. Barcelona, Estonia, Taiwan, and Ukraine have all created public code-based efforts - in this episode we delve into these innovative efforts that are paving the way with ecosystemic methodologies, protocols, and community engagement programs. Guest: Ben Cerveny, President & Chairman of the Board for Foundation for Public Code Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

How do you solve the problem of trust? Confidence is a prerequisite for large-scale adoption. With the deluge of speculation about Generative AI, organizations everywhere are establishing regulations and certifications to solve for fidelity, trust, and assurance. We're also seeing substantial debate regarding the viability of such efforts at this stage in the adoption of AI-empowered capabilities. Guest Emre Kazim is the co-Founder and co-CEO of Holistic AI, a hot startup empowering organizations to adopt and scale AI with confidence - which at its core, is solving the problem of trust. Emre shares an overview of the current ecosystems within and across the AI landscape - policy, industry, and society... federal, state, and local levels of activity. The path to AI governance is heating up and challenges us to answer the difficult questions - who will be the ultimate arbiter of trust and what are those entities' self-interests; what trade-offs are made and tolerated within AI-enabled systems of trust; what gaps exist between AI-powered capabilities, regulations, and policy... As you might suspect, the proximity of policy-making to the development of the capabilities they govern is key. Controlling the harm depends upon understanding the specific use case, the context of use, and the underlying layers of operability and interoperability - enabling a more precise assessment of the corresponding risk. Steady experimentation in practical, tangible use cases are the path forward enabling the real shift possible with AI. At the core - trust comes from confidence, and confidence comes from using these systems over time. Good governance will come from the same ecosystem that innovated these capabilities. Guest: Emre Kazim, Co-Founder & Co-CEO, Holistic AI Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA G. Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Join our co-hosts and guest Jan Bunge, Director at Squint/Opera, who has built global partnerships and leveraged advanced technologies to support large city planning projects. This episode delves into the benefits of leveraging virtual experience twins to help establish alignment and trust within diverse stakeholder networks. We explore the unique ways that AI can help simplify complexity and accelerate outcomes - while affording the flexibility needed for evolving priorities. This insightful discussion cuts through the hype of advanced technologies to offer practical examples, use cases, and suggestions to help avoid some of the traps that ensnare adopters of these powerful tools. Guest: Jan Bunge, Director, Squint/Opera Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

We have to remember AI does not think like humans and it's risky to attribute too much understanding and knowledge to AI solutions - especially when used in healthcare scenarios. Guest technologist and entrepreneur Steve Schwartz provides an overview of the evolution of AI for a non-technical audience - sharing insights from a healthcare perspective on AI's capability, bias concerns, and how to use AI within a layered approach for truly powerful partnerships between people and technology. Guest: Steve Schwartz, Startup Founder and CTO, Owner at Alfa Jango Co-Hosts: G. Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Shownotes: Link to Steve Schwartz' AI for Non-technical Investors presentation https://youtu.be/FngMleT_A_U

Technology and AI are changing the calculus on which categories of work are assigned to human versus digital agents. Co-hosts James Villarrubia and Dyan Finkhousen connect with Richard Susskind, President of the Society for Computers and Law to discuss his perspective on the history of AI and how it's informing potential futures for all professions. Guest: Richard Susskind, President, Society for Computers and Law Co-Hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Media outlets love to amplify AI hype with fear, yet humanity also has much to gain from thoughtful, intentional application of AI. What will it take for industry, society, and governments to shift to human-centric AI? In this episode we connect with technologist Phil D. Hall who started working with the first iterations of AI in the early '80s, and today focuses on highly contextualized healthcare AI systems. Guest: Phil D. Hall, CTO CareEnabler from SeraCares Co-Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Mark Stephen Meadows, Science Fiction Writer / Researcher for CAS, NASA

AIming for Economic Antifragility With economic resilience elusive - what role, if any, can regulation play in unlocking innovation? What is the ecosystemic impact of regulation? Join our co-hosts as they explore the role of AI in our economy with Professor Luke Froeb, former Chief Economist at the US Department of Justice and at the Federal Trade Commission. This episode packs heady and hard-hitting perspectives on a full spectrum of economic implications - the need for regulation in the AI ecosystem; surprising correlations between Generative AI and the Search Engine market; funding and development of AI models; the future of intellectual property rights within the context of large language models and generative AI; and the hype and potential promise of the current inflection point with Generative AI. Guest: Luke Froeb, Professor at Vanderbilt University’s Owen Graduate School of Management Co-Hosts: G. Edward Powell, PhD, CEO, TensorX, Inc James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA

Transformational or transitional? Will AI elevate humanity, or exploit? This season of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast investigates the potential, practicalities, and perils of AI applications in society, industry, and policy. Join co-hosts Dyan Finkhousen, Mark Stephen Meadows, Ed Powell, and James Villarrubia as they frame a pragmatic exploration of the history of AI, and the potential futures it may unlock.

This episode of the Ecosystemic Futures podcast delivers the capstone on what have been an extraordinary first two seasons. These two brilliant seasons explored the undeniable fact that ‘The Future is Ecosystemic and Interconnected’... Establishing a new way - an ecosystemic way - of understanding our dynamic world and how to thrive within it. These first 45 conversations delivered a bounty of universal truths and strategic surprises: from the role of trust and ethics in society; bio-inspired models; ‘Strategic Surprise’ and systemic thinking to help shirk conventional norms; and the critical importance of designing for systemic resilience. An exceptionally diverse, prismatic collection of perspectives devoted to defining new horizons for humanity, industry, and policy... each conversation reinforcing that the world is increasingly interconnected and ecosystemic - and that we have a unique, generational opportunity to optimize performance and elevate the human experience... through intentional, ecosystemic design. The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast is provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - connecting with the world’s brilliant minds with wicked opportunities to help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world.

Concluding this series on space, this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast focuses on the industrial and societal pathways for the space economy. The conversation explores the new, much more expansive, frame for what's possible as we consider the operationalization of space. In this new frontier - geographic borders no longer offer clear boundaries for frameworks like economic system governance and security infrastucture. The development of in situ resource utilization and other foundational capabilities will begin to pave the way for the accessibility, affordability and sustainability of this next horizon for humanity. Guest: Isaac Arthur, Futurist and host of the popular youtube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’ Co-hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures With an emphasis on space exploration and the future, our guest Isaac Arthur joins our hosts in this fascinating discussion, exploring objectives that may help to prepare us for new outcomes for humanity. Thinking beyond the scope of our planet, the conversation explores innovative practices and the advancement of technologies, encouraging learning and opening our minds up to the realm of possibility.

As we race to space, are we orchestrating with a new paradigm for what's possible - with a mindset for abundance or scarcity? With a bias for collaboration, competition, or conflict? The space economy offers a unique, generational opportunity to design an incredible array of exploration and development for the betterment of society and industry. The choices we make here will define the next chapter for the future of humanity. In this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, we connect again with Isaac Arthur, President, National Space Society, futurist and host of the popular YouTube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’, to continue our conversation about the rapidly evolving frontiers in space. With a fascinating perspective on innovation and planning, this episode will challenge your thinking about our place in the universe, and the futures it may unlock. Join us for another great discussion from the Ecosystemic Futures community. The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast is provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - connecting with the world’s brilliant minds with wicked opportunities to help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Guest: Isaac Arthur, President of the National Space Society, futurist and host of the popular YouTube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’ Co-hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center and NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

The world's brightest minds have been unlocking the mystery and magnificence of space for decades - and with new technologies now being developed at warp speed, space is now taking on a larger and more practical role in the future of industry, society, policy - and for humanity. Humanity has always looked to the skies for inspiration, adventure, and opportunity. Knowing what we do of what the universe has to offer, and knowing that we’ve only begun to understand the vast complexities of space - we look to the experts to help us understand what wicked problems space might help resolve. Isaac Arthur, host of the popular youtube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’, sits down with our hosts in this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast to discuss life beyond our planet and the potential role that space exploration could play in safeguarding our future. Guest: Isaac Arthur, President, National Space Society, futurist and host of the popular youtube channel ‘Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur’ Co-hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

To conclude this series on the future of work, this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast explores exciting options to design workforce ecosystems for resilient futures - enabling organizations and teams to maintain pace with rapidly advancing technologies, markets, and models. Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader at Deloitte joins us to discuss the practical decisions and actions that organizations can enact today to improve work, worker and workforce outcomes and experiences. Steve and our hosts discuss the profound opportunities that are possible in the convergence of technological advancement, human-centered ecosystemic design, and thoughtful change management. Guest: Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader, Deloitte Co-hosts: David Wagner, PhD, Computer Research Engineer, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Our first episode in this series on the future of work outlined challenges as we move to a more digitally-enabled human experience. Organizations and teams are grappling with new technologies, business models, dynamic market landscapes, reskilling requirements, and mindset shifts. In this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast we connect with Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader at Deloitte to continue the fascinating discussion about the shifting landscape in work and workforce design - and in this episode we explore potential future state scenarios for work, worker and workforce design. Guest: Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader, Deloitte Co-hosts: David Wagner, PhD, Computer Research Engineer, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

The landscape for work, the workforce, and for workers - has been evolving for a very long time. The degree to which markets are interconnected and interdependent however, has never been greater. Emerging technologies unlock both promise and challenge for organizations and their teams. On this episode of Ecosystemic Futures, our hosts sit down with Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader at Deloitte to discuss this dynamic landscape, the challenges faced by leaders responsible for work and workforce design - and the importance of the skills-based strategies for workforce ecosystems. In this episode, Steve shares his perspective regarding the constraints within the current frameworks for work that could prevent us from leveraging the full promise of the Future of Work. Guest: Steve Hatfield, Global Future of Work Leader, Deloitte Co-hosts: David Wagner, PhD, Computer Research Engineer, Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Have your AI talk to my AI. In a world where generative AI is transforming the way things get done - the first step is to simply begin learning about and experimenting with the capabilities in order to build up your own muscle memory. To conclude this series on generative AI, our hosts connect with Pascal Finette, co-founder of Be Radical, to explore the practical actions we all can take to thrive within a world with increasingly pervasive generative AI. The conversation explores the practical adjustments to mindsets and methodologies that enable us to take advantage of these new capabilities in a responsible manner, to achieve great outcomes. Guest: Pascal Finette, Cofounder at Be Radical Co-hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Can you spell 'mayonnaise'? Apparently AI cannot. Now, how much do you trust AI to operate your car with your children inside? To help get the next lander to the moon? We know AI can hallucinate. But can it dream? It can retrieve. But can it innovate beyond the boundaries of recombination and human imagination? In this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, our hosts connect with Pascal Finette, Founder of Be Radical, to continue the conversation about generative AI - what it can and can’t do. With the speed at which these technologies are being applied within the complex systems around us, are we accelerating beneficial outcomes, or amplifying risk? Understanding the inherent limitations and practical capabilities of these technologies is essential to more effectively safeguard our ecosystemic futures. Join us as we delve into the unimpossible futures generative AI can unlock, and how we discern better pathways with these smart agents at our side. Guest: Pascal Finette, Cofounder at Be Radical Co-hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Generative AI is everywhere, and societies worldwide are grappling with what it is, what it's becoming, and what that means for humanity. In this episode of Ecosystemic Futures, our hosts connect with Pascal Finette, Co-founder of Be Radical, to discuss this shift, and the many options to leverage emerging technological capabilities like generative AI, large language models and more as our 'trusted co-pilots' in work and life. Can we trust them though? With disruptive technologies like generative AI reaching a pivotal moment where they now touch the lives, workstreams and social feeds of many who may not yet understand the implications of that interface - the potential for unintended or harmful outcomes can accelerate dramatically. On the side of positive outcomes - research and learning functions that may have taken hours or days in the past, pouring over vast amounts of structured and unstructured data - can now be synthesized by technology in minutes, enabling the human co-pilots to spend more time with strategic and creative work. Accelerating innovation and solution pathways. The difference? Ecosystemic resilience. Designing for resilience, adaptability, and beneficial outcomes within and across complex, interconnected systems in society, industry, and policy. And maintaining a position of constant sensing, sensemaking, discernment, and thoughtful action in these complex, dynamic environments. Join us for another great discussion from the Ecosystemic Futures community. Guest: Pascal Finette, Cofounder at Be Radical Co-hosts: James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

To conclude this series on artificial intelligence and organizational design, this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast focuses on pathways to resilience with effective ecosystemic design. Brian Evergreen, C-suite advisor and author of the new book Autonomous Transformation: Creating a More Human Future in the Era of Artificial Intelligence, engages with our hosts to explore the natural tension between managing within the context of accelerated change, and a thoughtful approach to designing for ecosystemic resilience. Guest: Brian Evergreen, Senior Fellow, C-Suite Advisor, Author of Autonomous Transformation Co-hosts: Ed Powell, CEO, TensorX James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Our first episode in this series on artificial intelligence and the role it can play in transforming organizational structure explored the pitfalls of embracing technology while ignoring fundamental flaws in organizational design. In this episode of The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, our hosts connect with Brian Evergreen, C-suite advisor and author to continue the conversation. In this episode our hosts and guest explore AI futures, and the implications of innovation failure in the context of rapid technology adoption including how to measure success, evaluate opportunity cost and drive transformation instead of reformation. Guest: Brian Evergreen, Senior Fellow, C-Suite Advisor, Author of Autonomous Transformation Co-hosts: Ed Powell, CEO, TensorX James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures

Artificial Intelligence and other advanced technologies present profound opportunities for transforming organizational structure, strategy, and design. While it’s tempting to focus on the positive outcomes of this integration, on today’s episode of Ecosystemic Futures, our hosts sit down Brian Evergreen, a C-Suite Advisor and author of the new book Autonomous Transformation: Creating a More Human Future in the Era of Artificial Intelligence, to discuss the broader implications. Guest: Brian Evergreen, Senior Fellow, C-Suite Advisor, Author of Autonomous Transformation Co-hosts: Ed Powell, CEO, TensorX James Villarrubia, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Digital Strategist for CAS, NASA Series Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works and Ecosystemic Futures