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“Should we aim for flourishing over mere survival? The Better Futures series.” by William_MacAskill, Forethought

“Should we aim for flourishing over mere survival? The Better Futures series.” by William_MacAskill, Forethought

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August 6, 20259m 16s

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<p> Today, Forethought and I are releasing an essay series called Better Futures, here.[1] It's been something like eight years in the making, so I’m pretty happy it's finally out! It asks: when looking to the future, should we focus on surviving, or on flourishing?</p><p> In practice at least, future-oriented altruists tend to focus on ensuring we survive (or are not permanently disempowered by some valueless AIs). But maybe we should focus on future flourishing, instead. </p><p> Why? </p><p> Well, even if we survive, we probably just get a future that's a small fraction as good as it could have been. We could, instead, try to help guide society to be on track to a truly wonderful future. </p><p> That is, I think there's more at stake when it comes to flourishing than when it comes to survival. So maybe that should be our main focus.</p><p> The whole essay series [...]</p> <p>---</p> <p><b>First published:</b><br/> August 4th, 2025 </p> <p><b>Source:</b><br/> <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/should-we-aim-for-flourishing-over-mere-survival-the-better?utm_source=TYPE_III_AUDIO&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_content=Source+URL+in+episode+description&utm_campaign=ai_narration" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/should-we-aim-for-flourishing-over-mere-survival-the-better</a> </p> <p>---</p> <p>Narrated by <a href="https://type3.audio/?utm_source=TYPE_III_AUDIO&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_content=Narrated+by+TYPE+III+AUDIO&utm_term=ea_forum&utm_campaign=ai_narration" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TYPE III AUDIO</a>.</p> <p>---</p><div style="max-width: 100%";><p><strong>Images from the article:</strong></p><a href="https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/l2i0izqlpkbqbrzlwlms" target="_blank"><img src="https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/l2i0izqlpkbqbrzlwlms" alt="Graph showing value scale with markers for existential catastrophe and near-best future." style="max-width: 100%;" /></a><hr style="margin-top: 24px; margin-bottom: 24px;" /><a href="https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/kp0eqwvsphvgladwzgbn" target="_blank"><img src="https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/kp0eqwvsphvgladwzgbn" alt="Graph showing relationship between surviving and flourishing, with value loss indicators." style="max-width: 100%;" /></a><hr style="margin-top: 24px; margin-bottom: 24px;" /><a href="https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/argkr89avkb5inhjtigl" target="_blank"><img src="https://res.cloudinary.com/cea/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/mzT2ZQGNce8AywAx3/argkr89avkb5inhjtigl" alt="Circular diagram showing potential survival and extinction paths from 2025, branching into technology categories." style="max-width: 100%;" /></a><p><em>Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try <a href="https://pocketcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Pocket Casts</a>, or another podcast app.</em></p></div>