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[Linkpost] “Of Marx and Moloch: How My Attempt to Convince Effective Altruists to Become Socialists Backfired Completely” by LennoxJohnson
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August 14, 20252m 51s
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This is a link post.<p> This is a personal essay about my failed attempt to convince effective altruists to become socialists. I started as a convinced socialist who thought EA ignored the 'root causes' of poverty by focusing on charity instead of structural change. After studying sociology and economics to build a rigorous case for socialism, the project completely backfired as I realized my political beliefs were largely psychological coping mechanisms.</p><p> Here are the key points:</p><ul> <li> Understanding the "root cause" of a problem doesn't necessarily lead to better solutions - Even if capitalism causes poverty, understanding "dynamics of capitalism" won't necessarily help you solve it</li><li> Abstract sociological theories are mostly obscurantist bullshit - Academic sociology suffers from either unrealistic mathematical models or vague, unfalsifiable claims that don't help you understand or change the world</li><li> The world is better understood as misaligned incentives rather than coordinated oppression - Most social [...]</li></ul> <p>---</p>
<p><b>First published:</b><br/>
August 10th, 2025 </p>
<p><b>Source:</b><br/>
<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AcPw55oF3reBiW4FX/of-marx-and-moloch-how-my-attempt-to-convince-effective?utm_source=TYPE_III_AUDIO&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_content=Source+URL+in+episode+description&utm_campaign=ai_narration" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AcPw55oF3reBiW4FX/of-marx-and-moloch-how-my-attempt-to-convince-effective</a> </p>
<p><strong>Linkpost URL:</strong><br><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/out?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhonestsignals.substack.com%2Fp%2Fof-marx-and-moloch-or-my-misguided" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://honestsignals.substack.com/p/of-marx-and-moloch-or-my-misguided</a></p>
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