Drum History

In the roaring 20's, drummers would have beautiful hand painted artwork on their bass drum heads that would be illuminated by a lightbulb on the inside of the drum. This lightbulb looked great but also served a very necessary function, as well..keeping the calfskin heads from going out of tune when the temperature changes! Jim Messina is an icon in the vintage drum community and is the host and owner of Vintage Drums Talk. He is a long time collector and has expertise in many different areas, but in this case he shares his passion and knowledge about the painted bass drum heads with us. Jim's Vintage Drums Talk website: www.vintagedrumstalk.com Here is a link to Jim's video about these heads that we discuss in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYNSnyoXqRs I highly recommend checking out his youtube page to see his coverage of the Chicago Vintage and Custom Drum Show, along with many other great videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq8_L90Sr8ER6nDDsCxoucQ - Follow us on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give us a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Paul Francis, a 30 year employee of Zildjian, takes us back to 1618 when Avedis I discovered the alloy that changed music for ever. We go on a deep dive into every detail of Zildjians amazing history, including the struggles with trademarks, jealous cousins trying to steal the formula, and all of the amazing innovations that have been made along the way. We learn the whole family timeline and the contributions each family member brought to the company, and even learn about one uncles assassination attempt on a Sultan! Paul Francis is the Director of Cymbal Innovations for Zildjian and has climbed the ranks from sweeping floors and hanging Christmas decorations to now developing and creating the cymbals that we all know and love . You can hear the passion in his voice every time he talks about Zildjian and is an absolute expert on the topic with many first hand experiences with the older generations of Zildjians. Find him on Instagram at @cymbalcraftsman Visit Zildjians website for all kinds of great information: www.zildjian.com Thanks for listening! - Follow Drum History on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give us a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Nick takes us back to a time when trap drummers were king and could be found in every theater around the country. He shares his vast collection of sound effect Instruments with us and plays examples of some of his favorite pieces. He also tells us the full history of trap drummers and describes what it would have been like to be a working drummer in the early 1900's. Life was very different back then for musicians but drummers were never short of work thanks to the overwhelming need for theaters to keep the audience entertained by supplementing silent movies with sound effects. We learn all about where they would work, what instruments they would use, how they got around to the gigs, and the manufacturers who created these fascinating instruments. Here is some great information directly from Nicks website: "Few drummers these days recall the life of an early 20th century drummer, and the many circumstances they were faced with that would often require creativity, and an extensive branching out of their instrument collection. Basic additions to the trap kit were ratchets for off-beats, and triangles for soft strains and theatre work. When jobs at motion picture houses were widely in demand, sound effect instruments added realism to the silent screen. These basics of these would often include a songbird whistle, cuckoo whistle, clog mallets (for dancing scenes), and a duck call that could produce farm animal sounds. Larger cinemas would separate the drummer from the effects, having a full table of “contraptions” (or "traps") for thunderstorm sounds, vehicle sounds, and animal sounds. Every time the screen showed a locomotive, a rooster, a gunshot, a doorbell, a dog barking, a streetcar, or even a growling bear, the traps drummer would be prepared! When the silent film era ended in 1927, the need for the more bizarre effects diminished. Jazz songs with amusing themes about train travel would have the drummer picking up the train whistle once in a while; and, a “billy goat stomp” would start with humorous bleat, but the need to pack your case with car horns and horse hooves was certainly gone. Sound effect instruments had a brief second calling in radio, but as many of the radio studios would build their own effects, the need for the portable traps that a drummer could buy from his local drum shop slowly faded away." Check out Nicks website here: http://www.vintagepercussionsoundeffects.com Find his awesome page on Instagram at @weeklytrapdrummer - Follow us on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give us a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Herbie is a 32 year veteran of the Remo Company and shares the full history of the company with us, including the controversial debate between Evans and Remo and who was first to invent the synthetic drumhead. Remo is one of the most famous names in drums and it all stems back to one man, Remo Belli. Herbie was good friends with Remo and worked closely with throughout his career and shares many stories that come straight from Remo himself. We discuss the origins of synthetic heads and the trials and tribulations that faced that process, the introduction of C.S. Dot heads, Sparkletone heads, Remo Drumsets, RotoToms, World Percussion and a whole lot more. Herbie May has been there for the invention of many of these innovations and gives us a rare behind the scenes look at everything Remo! Check out the History page on the Remo website that we discuss here: https://remo.com/company/history/ - Follow us on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give us a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Learn the full history of Country Western drumming from its early jazz origins, to the "behind the curtain" days at the Grand Ole Opry, all the way up to the arena drummers of today. Before drummers became an integral part of Country music, they had to fight for the right to be on stage...and it didn't happen overnight. Matty Meyer is a Nashville drummer who has a deep knowledge and appreciation for the Roots of Country Music drumming. He is a working drummer who can always be found playing around Nashville and on the road with a number of great artists. Keep up with Matty by visiting his website: http://www.mattymeyer.com or finding him on Instagram at @Mattymeyerdrummer - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Founded by George Way, Camco is one of the most iconic brands in Drum History and it only existed for 17 years... Without Camco, we wouldn't have the iconic round lugs that were later made famous by DW and the classic 5000 pedal that we all know and love. Joe Luoma takes us through the history of this extremely sought after drum brand from the beginnings as the Geo. H. Way drum company, through the 4 seasons of the company, and the end when Tama and DW purchased all of the assets of the company. Joe is not only a devoted Camco collector, he is also the creator of the iconic "Hot Rod" multi-sticks. He tells us about how they came about and exploded with the unplugged craze that happened in the early 90's. You can meet Joe every year at the Chicago Drum Show and see his collection of Camco's in person! Joe also highly recommends the Delaware, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Hollywood, and St. Louis Drum Shows as well as the Vintage Camco Drums Facebook page. - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Dr. Clark wrote her dissertation on the origins of the jazz ride pattern and shares the full amazing history with us! She teaches us about the pioneers who brought the famous pattern to the forefront of jazz music and the variations that made it evolve over time. Colleen does an amazing job of explaining where things began in 1917 and ended up in 1941 with what we know as the jazz pattern today, but also fills us in on many great stories about our drumming heroes along the way including Tony Sbarbaro, Papa Jo Jones, Zooty Singleton and many more. She is truly a wealth of information and has a passion for drumming that is contagious! Keep up with Colleen by visiting her website at www.colleenclarkmusic.com - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Starting in 1849 as a maker of drumheads in Ireland, Rogers Drums has had a long life that is full of innovations such as the Dyna-Sonic snare, Swiv-O-Matic hardware, and countless iconic drum sets. Jeff and Po take us through the various eras of Rogers history in great detail, and we also learn about the recent resurgence of the iconic brand. Po Shy covers the first half of Rogers Drums that includes the origins in Dublin, followed by time in New York/New Jersey, and through the iconic Ohio days of production. Then, Jeff Burke teaches us about the Fullerton, California era when CBS purchased Rogers and the many owners and that followed. -Keep up with Jeff and Po by finding them on Facebook at the various Rogers Facebook groups -Rogers Drums USA facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1665871023670039/ -Covington Drummers Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/445087259289998/ - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Drumming since he was 18 months old, Buddy Rich turned into one of the worlds most beloved drummers thanks to his incredible speed and tenacity on the kit. His story is full of tragedies and triumphs that shaped him into the one of a kind person that he became. His incredible passion and unwavering dedication to being a drummer took him to the top of the drumming world, but ultimately lead to his demise. Shawn Martin is a drumming historian who specializes in Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa. He shares his vast knowledge of Buddy's life with us in a very detailed description that begins with Buddy's start as "Traps The Drum Wonder" at 18 months old, all the way through his remarkable career and death in 1987. Keep up with Shawn by visiting his website: www.drummerman.net - (This is his Gene website, but you can find all of his content for Buddy through the site) Find him on Instagram at @thecrippleddrummer and youtube at Drumuitar - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Daniel Glass explains the very beginnings of Rhythm and Blues drumming and the impact it had on all genres of music that we know today! Join us as we explore the tumultuous journey that African American musicians had to endure to be able to perform and innovate the music that they loved. Daniel is an expert in the world of Drum History and has an extensive background that features live performances with the Bryan Setzer Orchestra and the Royal Crown Revue, plus he is an author, clinician and touring drummer. Keep up with Daniel by visiting: www.danielglass.com Here is a quick link to get to his great youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/user/DanielGlassDrums/ - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Yamaha has been involved in musical instruments since 1887, but didn't began making drums until 1967. Since then, they have made a huge impact on evolution of drums and drumming technology. Jim Haler, 16 year employee of Yamaha Corporation, gives a full run through of the full history of the company with tons of great stories and information along the way. Learn about the origins of all of the classic models like Recording Customs, and how all of the many divisions of Yamaha work together to create cutting edge gear. www.yamaha.com - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Did you know Mozart was the first person to use Hot Rods in his music? Matt takes us from the beginning of drum sticks in the 7th century up to when they got the sizes and shapes that we know today (5A, 5B, 7A..etc). We cover many of the pivotal moments since the beginning of recorded history and use Matts great book as a reference. Check it out here: https://www.amazon.com/Drum-History-Matt-Dean/dp/0810881705 Matt Dean is the man behind www.totaldrummer.com - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Did Papa Jo Jones invent the Hi-Hat with the help of a plumber? Find out in this episode! Jaz takes us from the beginnings of drumming in Africa through the advent of the modern drum set as we know it today. The amount of different cultures drumming styles that blended together leading up to "double drumming" goes much deeper than I ever thought. Dr. Jaz Sawyer is a drummer and educator based out of Los Angelas. He has a long history in the music industry and has an enormous knowledge about drumming. Check him out at www.jazsawyer.com - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Keller has quietly made drum shells for many of the worlds greatest drum brands - learn about how the company got its start in 1946! I talk with Justin Owen, Special Accounts Manager at Keller Products, about how this company has been at the center of the drum universe for over 70 years and managed to remain out of the limelight. - you can visit Keller’s drum shell website here: https://www.kellershells.com - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Evans or Remo - Who was first? Learn about the dramatic history of these two companies along with the origin of drumheads from the very beginning. Ben is a former employee of Evans and gives us the entire history of the drumhead, leading up to the controversial invention of the synthetic head. Find out which of these iconic brands was the first to create the drumheads we know today! - Ben O'Brien Smith is a co-creator and host of www.soundslikeadrum.com - Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast - Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

A large collection of Gene Krupa's gear has been in a storage unit since 1973 and has recently been discovered! If that wasn't enough...It was all purchased by the legendary Charlie Watts! Our friend Brooks Tegler was the man who authenticated this collection and shares the story with us. Are the myths true about Gene playing a Dynasonic? You'll have to listen to find out! Brooks takes us through the whole story of how this amazing collection was found and what was included, and how it ended up with a Rolling Stone. You can find the full report that Brooks created for this collection at his blog: www.krupasequipmenthistory.blog Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Mark takes us on a journey through the amazing history of what was once known as The Slingerland Banjo Company. Slingerland grew into one of the most well known names in drumming history and had a major role in the evolution of the drum set! Follow along with the conversation by visiting Mark's website: www.coopersvintagedrums.com Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Mike was one of the earliest pioneers of teaching drums online - He shares the history and evolution of this game-changing technology with great stories along the way! Mikes Lessons vs. Drumeo? Find out what makes these two giant platforms different and how they feel about each other. Mike is the co-host of the Modern Drummer podcast and the head honcho at www.mikeslessons.com, find him on social media as @mikeslessons Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

"That Great Gretsch Sound" has been around since 1883, join me as I talk with John Sheridan about the full history of this iconic company! John is an expert on Gretsch and co-wrote "The Gretsch Book" with Rob Cook. John takes us through the 136 year history with amazing facts and stories and also some information that you won't hear anywhere else! Here is the timeline on the Gretsch websites I used to follow along with John: http://www.gretschdrums.com/history The Gretsch Book is available for purchase at most retailers, here it is on Rebeats: http://rebeats.com/books.html Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

It all started with a Cockatoo named Snowball on YouTube dancing to the Backstreet Boys... That is what got Dr. Ed Large interested in studying the rhythmic abilities of animals including birds, primates, and even a sea lion! This episode dives deep into the history of how Rhythm works in both humans and animals and what he has discovered over the course of his research. Read about many great things Ed has researched at: https://musicdynamicslab.uconn.edu/home/dr-edward-large/ Also, check out his awesome lighting company https://www.synchronyleds.com/ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Angela Sells takes us through the history of female percussionists dating from thousands of years ago up to modern times. She has a PhD, is a writer for Tom Tom Magazine, a professor of Womens Studies and also plays in a Seatle based rock band! Female drummers have had to work very hard throughout time to be able to do what they love. Give this a listen and then go check out some of the great female drummers we talk about! check out Angelas writing in Tom Tom Magazine online at: www.tomtommag.com find Angela on social media at: msangelamegan Angelas website is: www.drummergirldays.com Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Bill Ludwig runs us through the fascinating history of Ludwig Drums! Grandson of the Ludwig founder, William F. Ludwig, his family has had a long and winding history with the Ludwig drum company - founding it in 1909 with a subsequent sale of the company in the early 80's. They have gone through many ups and downs in that time, from losing the rights to the family name, to Ringo changing the world on The Ed Sullivan Show. Ludwig has always been an integral part of drumming since the drum set has existed. Bill, aka B3, is "starting over" with his new drum company, WFLIII Drums! They are a beautiful homage to a classic style of drums with all the modern touches we have today. Check them out online at: http://www.wfliiidrums.com/ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

We explore the entire life of the legendary Gene Krupa! I speak with Brooks Tegler about Genes beginnings in the early 1920's through his false conviction in 1943, all the way up to his death in 1973. In addition to being being such a revolutionary musician, Gene was a true gentleman and had a very rich and interesting life. Gene is responsible for many innovations in drumming that took the drum set from the "trap drums" of the early 1900's to what we now consider the modern drum set. Brooks Tegler is an expert on the subject of Krupa and his equipment and I'm honored that he took the time to share his knowledge with me! As quoted from Brooks, Some of these innovations include: * Deserves huge credit for making drummers (as he put it) "high priced guys." Brought drums to the forefront and more highly respected. *First (and Only) musician to be featured on the cover of instrument catalogs for 30 years straight *Fully tunable tom toms (top AND bottom) and other equipment innovations like cymbal stands and tom mount systems. *First to use two tom tom sizes that were not even cataloged (14 X 14 and 20 x 20). *Thinner cymbals but also larger (diameter) ones as well. *Set the 'standard' for drum set, set-up and drum sizes/depths (for close to 40 years and, in a way, even to this day!) *What has become the "standard" of front bass drum head art (shield/vertical stripes). Credit must also go to Bill Mather. *First to insist on a black musician being a regular member of the band, not just 'featured'. * Created what Gershwin called his "Freeze-Beat". (and a gazillion other drumming/musical innovations...) *Use of snare rim shots and a deep sense of dynamics. You can check out Brooks website here: https://gkthehistoryofgenekrupaandhisequipment.wordpress.com As mentioned in this episode, here is Bobby Scotts piece that reflects on Gene, titled "The World Is Not Enough" https://jazzprofiles.blogspot.com/2018/01/gene-krupa-world-is-not-enough-by-bobby.html?fbclid=IwAR3Z-RaDuBvdi6NJtqkxJCcsvokmSoiJJiRUS3aFIEktEup2jSQXGJXPOkU I hope you enjoy this episode, find me on social media @drumhistory_podcast to see daily videos and pictures featuring the best drummers in the world. Give me a review and rating if you like what you hear! -Bart

Rob Cook, founder of the Chicago Drum Show and Author of "The Leedy Way", gives us the complete history of the Leedy Drum Company. The amazing story begins with U.G. Leedy producing snare stands in his apartment in Indianapolis and evolves into becoming the largest manufacturer of drums in the world. Rob also teaches us about George Ways involvement in the rise and fall of Leedy. Rob is the author of many great books (The Slingerland Book, The Ludwig Book, The Rogers Book..etc) and will soon be releasing "The Leedy Way" via Hal Leanord Publishing. I highly recommend reading anything that he writes, they are the most complete histories of all the major drum companies. You can purchase all of his books through his website, www.rebeats.com Follow me on Facebook and Instagram for daily drumming videos and posts that correspond with the episodes! @drumhistory_podcast Please give me a rating and a review if you like the show. I love getting feedback from everyone and hearing how you like the show, get in touch and let me know what you want to learn about next!

Do you know what the Speed King Squeak is? Think John Bonham... In 1937, the Speed King changed the world of drumming by being the most innovative pedal of the time. 81 years later, Vincent of Polyphonic Drums is keeping the legacy alive by restoring Speed King's and making them play like new. He shares the whole story of the pedal with us in this episode - from the journey through world war 2 through the 60's and 70's with Bonham and Ringo to its decline in the 2000's, and finally the current revitalization. Check out what Vincent is up to with Polyphonic Drums at his website, or find him on Social Media www.polyphonicdrums.com I hope you enjoy this episode, if you like the show please rate the show and give me a review! Find me on facebook and Instagram and get in touch! @drumhistory_podcast

Jim has a deep family history that revolves around Slingerland drums dating back to when Slingerland was a guitar company. His great uncles and father were long time employees of the company running the woodshop, and Jim worked there in his high school years during the night shifts. Did you know "The Ludwig Boys" used to go through the dumpsters at Slingerland to try and figure out what they were working on? Jim shares a number of great stories that only someone on the inside of the company would know! Nowadays, Jim is the founder of Chicago Drum - a company that prides itself on building drums in the vintage Slingerland style, but with all the modern innovations. Check out the amazing kits they build at Chicago Drum at www.chicagodrum.com We touch on the company history a little bit in this episode, but I'll be doing a full history of Slingerland in the coming episodes so stay tuned for that! (P.S. This was the first interview I did for the podcast back in April 2018, so some of the dates we talk about in this episode for various drum shows have already passed but you can catch them next year) Find me on instagram at @drumhistory_podcast for great historical drum videos that I post daily. Subscribe, rate, and leave a review if you like the show, thanks for listening! -Bart

"Stencil drums" were Japanese copies of major drum manufacturers like Slingerland and Rogers that were created in the 50's to the 80's. They feature some of the most unique finishes that you can find and have become a unique category of affordable collectors drums. They have a somewhat mysterious history, but fortunately Marc Patch has written a book documenting the history of MIJ (Made In Japan) drums and took the time to talk with me. To check out and purchase any of Marcs Books, check out his website http://www.marcpatch.com Thanks for listening to Drum History, Please subscribe and give me a review. Let me know topics that you want to hear about and find me on all the social media platforms!

For a moment in time, it was ILLEGAL to use more than 10% of metal per drum for drum making in America! The result is a fascinating collection of beautiful drums that feature wooden lugs, hoops, pedals, and hardware...most famously Slingerlands "Rolling Bomber." Find out the reasoning behind this quirk in our nation's Drum History, as we discuss this and much more with war-era drums expert, Joe Mekler, a.k.a. "Joey Boom" of the Delaware Drum Show! Joey Boom's website: www.joeyboom.com The Delaware Drum Show: www.delawaredrum.com Another great resource, Coopers Vintage Drums: www.coopersvintagedrums.com/war%20effort.htm Find me online @drumhistory_podcast and please rate and write a review!

What was it like to be a Trap Drummer in the silent movie era as talking pictures take over - making the job obsolete? Listen as Kelli and I discuss this topic - and how a great percussion genre became extinct. Trap Drummers were percussionists who performed alongside silent films and performances before the advent of "Talkies" (talking pictures). Using a wide array of instruments and devices (contraptions), Trap Drummers aimed to make audiences believe these sounds were one with the film or performance. To dive into the world of Trap Drumming, we listen to real samples performed by legendary William F. Ludwig III. In 1927, Talkies took over popular culture and overshadowed America's once-beloved silent films. This left thousands of talented Trap Drummers jobless, with nothing but a forgotten craft to call their own. So what was it really like to be a Trap Drummer in the silent movie era as talking pictures take over? Hear about this and much more on this episode! Check out everything Kelli is up to on her website: www.kelliraetubbs.com Please Subscribe, Share, and write a review if you like the show! Check me out on social media at @drumhistory