
Dream of Italy
Kathy McCabe/Dream of Italy · Dream of Italy
Show overview
Dream of Italy has been publishing since 2019, and across the 7 years since has built a catalogue of 28 episodes. That works out to roughly 20 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a roughly quarterly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 31 min and 45 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Society & Culture show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 weeks ago, with 9 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2026, with 9 episodes published.
From the publisher
If you dream of Italy, host Kathy McCabe and her fascinating guests are here to make your Italian travel dreams come true whether you're seeking life transformation life with a move to Italy or simply want to make your Italian vacation as authentic as possible. McCabe is the host of the PBS TV travel series Dream of Italy and founded the award-winning travel publication Dream of Italy in 2002. Our episodes - mostly recorded on the road in Italy - cover everything from picking the best cooking schools and villa rentals to gaining Italian citizenship and starting a new chapter in Italy...
Latest Episodes
View all 28 episodesEpisode #27: Why Americans Are Moving to Milan with Arlene Gibbs
Episode #26: Renovating A House in Italy, Sicily One Euro Houses and More
Episode #25: The Real Move to Italy Talk Beyond TikTok Trends and One Euro Houses
Episode #24: The Best Places to Move in Italy
Episode #23: Italy's One Euro Houses in Mussomeli Sicily
Episode #22: How Astrocartography Can Help You Move with Helena Woods
Episode #21: The Truth About Italian Taxes with Attorney Nick Metta
Episode #20: Move to Abruzzo Italy with Your Kids with Joe Reagan
Ep 19Episode #19: Italy Tourism Boom with ENIT President Alessandra Priante
Italian National Tourism Board, to talk about how travel in Italy is evolving and what it means for visitors today. Drawing on her global perspective and deep knowledge of Italian tourism, Alessandra shares how travel habits have changed in recent years, why Italy continues to inspire repeat visits and how travelers can experience the country in more meaningful and memorable ways beyond the classic itineraries. From the growing popularity of off-season travel to the desire for deeper cultural experiences, Kathy and Alessandra explore how travelers are moving beyond classic itineraries and seeking authentic connections with Italy's regions, food and local communities. They also discuss how major events like the 2026 Winter Olympics in Milan Cortina will bring global attention to new parts of the country. Kathy and Alessandra discuss: Why Calabria is emerging as an exciting destination with beaches, mountains, villages and affordable prices How Umbria is becoming known as a refined, boutique luxury destination Why Abruzzo, with L'Aquila as Italy's 2026 Capital of Culture, is gaining attention How the Marche offers diverse landscapes, culture and fewer crowds How shorter, more frequent trips are replacing traditional long vacations Why travelers are planning trips around experiences, events and food traditions If you're planning a trip to Italy, you won't want to miss this episode! Show notes: http://www.dreamofitaly.com/19
S1 Ep 18Episode #18: 90 Years of the Parmigiano Reggiano Consortium with Nicola Bertinelli
Kathy McCabe, host of Dream of Italy, visits with Nicola Bertinelli, President of the Parmigiano Reggiano Consortium to talk about the King of Cheeses and the 90th anniversary of the consortium of producers of this amazing "Made in Italy" product. Bertinelli leads Kathy in a tasting of various ages, talks about the importance of the American market for this cheese and share stories of Parmigiano Reggiano including ones about 3-Michelin Star Chef Massimo Bottura. Show notes: http://www.dreamofitaly.com/18
S1 Ep 17Episode #17: Experience Authentic Italy in 2025 with Angelo Cartotenuto of LivTours
Kathy McCabe, host of Dream of Italy, welcomes Angelo Carotenuto, founder of LivTours (formerly LivItaly). They discuss how tourism in Italy has evolved, with Carotenuto emphasizing the importance of booking experiences well in advance, particularly for major attractions like the Vatican Museums and St. Peter's Basilica. Kathy and Angelo explore his unique tour offerings, from Vespa sidecar rides in Rome to early morning Vatican visits and after-hours access to St. Mark's Basilica in Venice. Carotenuto shares his philosophy on creating meaningful travel experiences, drawing from his background as a tour guide with acting experience. He emphasizes that travel to Italy is deeply emotional and transformative, with tourists often arriving with dreams and expectations shaped by media, history, and cultural influences. Kathy and Angelo also spend time covering practical advice for visiting Rome during the 2025 Jubilee Year and highlights the importance of exploring lesser-known neighborhoods like Prati for authentic dining experiences. Kathy and Angelo discuss: How optimal booking window for Italian tours is now 4-6 weeks in advance, with many travelers planning even further ahead. The unique experiences LivTours offers like like women-focused historical tours, artisan workshops in Florence, and traditional rowing lessons in Venice. Why 2025 Jubilee Year in Rome will bring increased visitors but shouldn't significantly disrupt regular tourism activities. How early morning and after-hours tours provide exceptional opportunities to experience major attractions without crowds. Why the Prati neighborhood in Rome offers authentic dining experiences away from tourist crowds, including restaurants like Sorpasso and Cacio e Pepe. Why quality of tour guides is crucial to the travel experience, with the best guides combining historical knowledge with storytelling abilities. How to save 10% on LivTours tours and experiences with code: DREAMOFITALY10
S1 Ep 16Episode #16: Italian Culinary Adventures in Modena with Rhonda Vilardo
Join host Kathy McCabe and Rhonda Vilardo of Italian Culinary Adventures as they discuss one of their very favorite cities in Italy- Modena in the region of Emilia Romagna. Modena lives and breathes food, especially balsamic vinegar and parmigiano reggiano. Kathy recently filmed two episodes of season 3 of the TV series Dream of Italy in Modena and Rhonda and Kathy discuss Michelin-star chef Massimo Bottura and his wife Lara Gilmore and their culinary and philanthropic empire in this charming city. Rhonda explains how she takes guests through the many layers of Modena exploring food, wine and culture, meeting food producers and learning hands on the special culinary traditions of this corner of Italy. If you are dreaming of visiting Modena, you don't want to miss this episode of the Dream of Italy Podcast!
Ep 15Episode #15: Bring Italy to Your Doorstep with Olivia Becker
Pistachio cream tastes like that breakfast you enjoyed in Milan. A drizzle of balsamic vinegar catapults you back to a memorable lunch in Modena. A bite of pasta transports you back to a perfect dinner in Umbria. Olivia Becker of Dalla Fonte knows the important role food plays in our memories. She talks to host Kathy McCabe about how Dalla Fonte brings customers Italian food directly from small businesses and local suppliers in tiny towns in Italy, truly living up to its name which means "from the source." Olivia, who has Italian-American ancestry, connects with many female-led business owners and entrepreneurs keeping traditional food alive while keeping an eye on innovation. Jordan almonds ("confetti") were a staple in Olivia's Abruzzese family and are synonymous with parties and celebrations still today for many Italians. She includes confetti from the Pelino factory in Sulmona, Abruzzo, in operation for over 300 years, as part of a special box created as an interactive experience for Season 3 of the TV series Dream of Italy. Olivia's curated boxes bring the best of Italy, authentic Italy, to your doorstep. Save 20% in Dalla Fonte's store with code: DREAMOFITALY
Ep 14Episode #14: Buying Short Term Rentals in Italy with Brad Allan of BradsWorld
YouTube star, dog-lover and all-around great guy, Brad Allan, originally from Texas, lives his dream of Italy in Montepulciano with his wife Olivia. Host Kathy McCabe enjoys a great chat with Brad and his new life in Italy! His thoroughly educational channel gives tips on how to move to Italy and how purchase property either for your personal use or to turn into short-term rentals as Brad has. Brad has a booming business renting out elegant apartments to travelers to Tuscany. He's also loving the Tuscan lifestyle as are his dogs! If you dream of moving to Italy with a smart way to finance it, this episode is for you.
Ep 13Episode #13: Fractional Ownership in Florence with Italy Perfect
Don't we all dream of owning a home in Italy? What if you could be part owner of a stunning apartment in Florence with little of the usual hassles of buying a house in Italy? Your Italian dream might be closer than you think... Host Kathy McCabe welcomes Lisa Byrne of Italy Perfect who has been renting villas and apartments in Italy for years and is now offering fractional ownership (four weeks per year) of a stunning apartment in dreamy Florence: They discuss: How fractional ownership works and why you are truly a deeded owner Why Florence is the perfect location for a fractional ownership in Italy What the price is for Italy Perfect's Maestro fractional ownership What the advantages and disadvantages of fractional owneership are Why purchasing a fractional ownership can have less risk than buying a house in Italy How you can rent out the Maestro apartment when you are not there And much more... For more details, visit www.italyperfect.com Enter to win a 4-night stay in Florence: www.dreamofitaly.com/winflorence Show notes: https://dreamofitaly.com/2023/01/11/podcast-episode-13-fractional-ownership-in-florence-with-italy-perfect/
Episode #12: Overcoming Challenges in Claiming Your Italian Citizenship
In our previous episode (#11), we discussed how many who have Italian ancestry can claim Italian citizenship, jure sanguinis, by right of blood. In this episode, we dig deeper as sometimes this process isn't as straightforward as it first might seem. Host Kathy McCabe welcomes Bianca Ottone of My Italian Family. They discuss: + Why more and more Americans are pursuing dual citizenship + Why naturalization records are the most important + How Bianca and her company helped Kathy explore her heritage in Campania + How to navigate around the "1948 rule" which might seemingly deny your claim to citizenship - and how Kathy is doing it+ How adoption affects the ability to claim citizenship + How to navigate around name discrepancies, whether they were made on purpose or by mistake + How to find the Italian town(s) your ancestors are from, even if you are not sure of all of their details Show notes: https://dreamofitaly.com/2021/05/04/podcast-episode-12-overcoming-challenges-in-claiming-your-italian-citizenship-with-my-italian-family/
Episode #11: How to Use Your Italian Ancestry to Claim Citizenship
Italy bestows Italian citizenship jure sanguinis, by right of blood. So that means many Americans who have Italian blood can be dual citizens and hold citizenship in the U.S. and Italy, allowing them to live in Italy full-time and access many benefits - and even pass it on to their children. Host Kathy McCabe welcomes Melanie Holtz of ItalyAncestry.com to discuss genealogy and how tracing your ancestry can lead to Italian citizenship and an EU passport. They discuss: + How Melanie's own ancestors were "on the run" - and that's sometimes a common story - when they emigrated to the U.S. + How Italian records can tell you so much of the story of your ancestors + Why so many Italian records are available in Salt Lake City, of all places + What are the advantages of claiming Italian citizenship+ Why the wait at some U.S. consulates is up to eight years! to process citizenship paperwork, but there's a very fast way to get your citizenship granted - on the ground in Italy + What the cost is to go through the citizenship process and ways to save money Show notes: https://dreamofitaly.com/2021/05/04/podcast-episode-11-how-to-use-your-italian-ancestry-to-claim-italian-citizenship-with-italyancestry-com/
Episode #10: Grow An Italian Garden With Seeds From Italy
When you're not in Italy, what better way to live like an Italian but to grow a garden at home? Fresh fruits and vegetables are essential the Mediterranean diet and gardening is a wonderful way to be tied to the land, no matter where you are. Host Kathy McCabe welcomes Lynn Byczynski and Will Nagengast of Seeds From Italy. They share the importance of heirloom seeds to the Italian culture and how to get gardening at home. They also discuss: + Why seeds are so important to Italians and Italian-Americans + How they came to run a business importing seeds specifically from Italy + Why basil seeds produced in Bergamo are called Italiano Classico+ What is a Cucuzza? + When is the best time to start a garden in the United States + Which Italian flowers are easiest to grow + And much more... Visit www.growitalian.com and use code: dreamgarden to save 10% Show notes: https://dreamofitaly.com/2021/04/12/podcast-episode-10-grow-an-italian-garden-with-seeds-from-italy/
Episode #9: Your Crowdsourced Italian Travel Dreams
When the pandemic started this spring, I put out a call to our listeners to send in audio segments for a special crowdsourced episode on the places, people and experiences we are dreaming of during this difficult time. I asked listeners to start off with, "When I dream of Italy, I dream of..." and the answers I received are as diverse and beautiful as il bel paese itself! From a story of smiles and soul medicine found in Sicily to a funny tale of being locked in an Italian restaurant bathroom, this episode will enchant and surprise you until the day we can return to Italy! Show notes: https://dreamofitaly.com/2020/12/17/podcast-episode-9-your-crowdsourced-italian-travel-dreams/
Episode #8: Share Your Dream of Italy During This Difficult Time
I believe in Italy. I'm betting on Italy. Italy has saved me again and again. It has been my constant. And I believe in dreams and their ability to become reality. As Italy begins to slowly open up and the future still remains uncertain, all we can hold onto these days are our dreams…so let's write about and talk about our Italian dreams! I know Dream of Italy viewers, readers and listeners have had some of the most incredible experiences in Italy. We've published 170 issues of our award-winning travel publication but YOU know about so many hidden gems that I (or the fabulous contributors to our publication) don't know about and what better time to share them!? For years, I have dreamed of putting together a crowdsourced issue of Dream of Italy and now that we also have the Dream of Italy Podcast, for those who don't like to write but can talk (haha), we're compiling a crowdsourced podcast episode as well. I need your help. There's no better time to share our love for Italy and get lost in a little project that has us digging deep into great memories. Please submit a 350-word articles, series of photos, recipe or podcast soundbite up to 40 seconds long on the theme of When I Dream of Italy, I Dream of… to potentially be included in our issue or episode. The deadline is May 20, 2020. For more details, visit www.dreamofialy.com/sharemydream