
Doom Debates!
AI debates that must be resolved before the world ends
Liron Shapira
Show overview
Doom Debates! has been publishing since 2024, and across the 2 years since has built a catalogue of 167 episodes. That works out to roughly 230 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a several-times-a-week cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 50 min and 1h 55m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Technology show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 6 days ago, with 42 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Liron Shapira.
From the publisher
It's time to talk about the end of the world. With your host, Liron Shapira. lironshapira.substack.com
Latest Episodes
View all 167 episodesHe Leads a Top AI Research Program, But He’d Hit the PAUSE Button Today! Kevin Zhu, Algoverse Founder
Top Mathematicians Face Irrelevance, a 7-Year-Old's P(Doom) + The “Off Switch" Debate — Livestream May 29
Anthropic's New Hire Should WORRY You, AI is a Math Genius, Live Callers! — Livestream (May 22)
I Called Out a16z Partner (Martin Casado) for Downplaying AI Capabilities in 2024
Ben Goertzel Wants to Build AGI Even FASTER — AI Doom Debate
NEWS: Trump & Xi Want AI Guardrails, ChatGPT vs Claude, and Liron Caught Rationalizing!? DD Live (5/15)
Who Was Liron Shapira BEFORE Doom Debates? — Interview on Theo Jaffee's Podcast from December 2023
Dr. Mike Israetel Returns to Debate: Will AI Kill Everyone, Or Make Everything Awesome?
Eliezer Yudkowsky Post-Debate Reaction, Elon's New Frenemy & Liron's Bet on Spencer Pratt!? - Doom Debates Live (5/8/26)
Debate with @lumpenspace (AI Accelerationist) — Is it GOOD for AI to replace us?
NEW: Watch the Eliezer Yudkowsky vs. Secret AI Lab Director Debate on my other channel!
Who Paid $10,000 to Debate Yudkowsky? Plus AI Twitter & Investing Tips - Doom Debates Live (5/1/26)
Justin Helps (@Primer on YouTube) is Worried about AI Takeover
Live Q&A: Bernie Sanders Wakes Up to AI Doom, Dwarkesh's $20,000 Questions, Caller Debates the Alignment Problem!
Emad Mostaque Has A 50% P(Doom) & A Plan To Lower It
Did Eliezer Yudkowsky Really Call for VIOLENCE? — Debate with John Alioto
Are AI Doomers “Calling for Violence”? Debate with Steven Balik
Tristan Harris and Ted Tremper are WAKING UP Humanity to AI Extinction!

URGENT — Someone Is Funding YOU To Help Lower P(Doom) Right Now!
Did you know there’s something called the Survival and Flourishing Fund, and right now it’s giving away $20 to $40 million in grants. The application deadline is April 22nd. 😱I’m personally involved as a recommender in the 2026 round, and I’m here to make sure you don’t miss this. If you have a project that could help the world — particularly around AI existential risk — you should apply ASAP!What Is the Survival and Flourishing Fund?The Survival and Flourishing Fund (SFF) is a grantmaking program funded by Jaan Tallinn, one of the most prolific funders of charitable causes in the AI safety and effective altruism ecosystem.Jaan was a core team member on Kazaa, then a founding engineer at Skype, then got into crypto early and did well. He started an investment arm called Metaplanet and led the Series A for a couple companies you might have heard of: “DeepMind” and “Anthropic”. He’s one of the largest shareholders of Anthropic right now.There’s a delicious irony to this whole funding round. As we watch Anthropic take off and generate enormous value in AI capabilities, some of that wealth is flowing back through one of their earliest investors into charitable causes — including existential risk reduction. You could, in a very real sense, take some of Anthropic’s money and use it for good.What Gets Funded?It all comes down to Jaan’s philanthropic priorities.AI Extinction RiskThis is priority number one — reducing humanity’s risk of destroying itself with AI. As Jaan writes on his website: “I wish more people would wake up to this issue since literally everyone under the age of 60 is personally at risk.”He breaks AI extinction risk work into two categories:Restrictive efforts — things like certifications on large data centers, speed limits on training runs, liability laws, labeling requirements (disclosing whether you’re interacting with a human or a machine), veto committees for large-scale model deployments, and global off switches. There is so much technology and policy work to be done across all of these.Constructive efforts — approaches that accept AI may be coming regardless and try to make it go as well as possible. This includes collective intelligence enhancement, AI health tech, “protective moralities” that could help an uncontrollable AI treat us well (even as a last-ditch effort, it’s better than nothing), guaranteed safe AI through human-legible quantitative safety guidelines, and hardware-level controls like automatic shutdown and reporting conditions.Some of these constructive efforts look a lot like restrictive efforts, just resigned to AI already arriving — running behind the train instead of standing in front of it holding a stop sign. But the philosophy is simple: throw everything at the problem. Let a thousand flowers bloom.The Tracks: Freedom and FairnessBeyond the main track (where I’m a recommender, alongside five others), SFF runs two specialized tracks:The Freedom Track asks: how can we avoid concentrations of authority and support uses of AI that strengthen freedom for humans and humanity? This includes protecting meaningful freedom of speech, ensuring the continuation of individual liberties like privacy and private property, and maintaining sovereignty for self-governing territories. (If you’ve heard Vitalik Buterin’s episode on Doom Debates about d/acc, this will resonate.)The Fairness Track starts from the premise that AI is a force multiplier for those who wish to control others. It asks: how can we support the use of AI to empower the disempowered? This means empowering the global majority with regard to AI technology, resisting monopolistic practices in AI development, diffusing conflicts and abuses of power, and fostering inclusivity in AI governance.Each of these tracks has three dedicated recommenders evaluating applications. If you’ve ever thought, “Why is everyone focused on the technology of preventing AI from killing us? What about the scenario where we’re all still alive but dealing with massive unfairness?” — well, SFF has an entire track with $3 million-plus in funding just for that.Theme RoundsSFF also runs theme rounds in climate change, animal welfare, and human self-enhancement. Jaan has thought of everything — spreading his bets like a good investor across different possible futures and different mechanisms of impact.How the Process WorksYou submit an application. That’s it. It’s not a super hard application — you detail what you’re doing, how much money you need, and what you’ll spend it on.Once submitted, there’s a two-phase process:Phase 1: Speculation Grants. About 40 speculators — including names like Eliezer Yudkowsky, Nate Soares, Andrew Critch, David Kruger, Oliver Habryka, Roman Yampolskiy, Tsvi Benson-Tilsen, and Zvi Mowshowitz — evaluate applications and may issue smaller initial grants. An individual speculator’s budget is on the order of $250,000, so these grants are smaller but fast: you could hear back as early as May 6th.Phase 2: The S-Process. A d

I Challenged DON’T LOOK UP’s Screenwriter to Look Up At AGI
David Sirota helped create “Don’t Look Up” sometimes feels like we’re living inside his movie. Does he share my belief that the looming planetary threat is rogue AI?Sirota is an award-winning investigative journalist, bestselling author, and former speechwriter for Bernie Sanders. He was nominated for an Oscar for co-writing the story of Don’t Look Up.Find our more about David’s work at The Lever: https://www.levernews.com/Timestamps00:00:00 — Cold Open00:01:20 — Introducing David Sirota00:04:34 — Why David Fights Against Power and the Concentration of Power00:13:46 — From NAFTA to AI: The Warnings We Ignored00:22:05 — How Big Will the AI “Jobpocalypse” Be?00:25:28 — Superintelligence & the Parallel to Don’t Look Up00:28:37 — What’s Your P(Doom)™?00:31:44 — The Speed of the AI Threat00:36:26 — Society Is Losing a Collective Capacity to Focus00:38:34 — Is Climate Change David’s Biggest Existential Concern?00:45:01 — David Reacts to Bernie Sanders’ Data Center Moratorium Proposal00:49:11 — Can We Build The “Off Button”?00:52:08 — “Don’t Look Up” x AGI Mashup00:54:35 — Why There’s Still Hope00:58:14 — Living in “Don’t Look Up”00:59:46 — Wrap-Up: Where to Follow Major AI NewsLinksWatch Don't Look Up — https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81252357 The Lever, investigative news outlet — https://www.levernews.com/David Sirota on X — https://x.com/davidsirotaDavid Sirota, Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_SirotaMaster Plan podcast — https://the.levernews.com/master-plan/David Sirota, “Hostile Takeover” on Amazon — https://www.amazon.com/Hostile-Takeover-Corruption-Conquered-Government/dp/0307237354The Three-Body Problem (novel), Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem_(novel)WarGames (1983 film), Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGamesAdam McKay, Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_McKayWatch Don’t Look Up — https://www.netflix.com/title/81252357AI 2027 scenario — https://ai-2027.com/Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe