Diggin' In The Digits

Before he was Congo Natty, he was Rebel MC and it is genuinely tough to decide which alter ego of dual threat Michael West is the most influential. As a Hip-Hop Pod, we cover Rebel MC and the three album run under that name, mixing Hip-Hop, House, Dance & Pop with samples from every Jamaican music genre to date.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:51)Ben:Benny The Butcher x 38 Spesh - Stabbed & Shot 2Yeat - Lyfestyleian - Goodbye HorsesDJ Rude One - Upper SpaceCharlie:Protoje - The Jamaican SituationBINA. - Chaos Is Her NameAlfa Mist & Amika Quartet - Recurring (Live At King's Place)Ashley Henry - Who We AreHomeboy Sandman - Turns Out I Can Tell A Few of These After AllRoy Hargrove - Grande-TerreTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (10:07) Rebel Music - (21:41)Black Meaning Good - (30:29) Word, Sound and Power - (37:51)Lighter Note - (50:04) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

When UK Hip-Hop zigged, Demon Boyz zagged. Whilst they managed to get two albums out before their split, boy did they make effort to do it differently and incidentally became a key connection between Hip-Hop and Jungle. TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:54)Ben:Rome Streetz - Hatton Garden HoldupXV & Mike Summers - Blog Era Is Dead Iglooghost - Tidal Memory ExoCharlie:Layfullstop - RUGGED (Part 2)Nilla Allin - NILLAWOODCHERISE - ButterDeema - C4LL MY PHONEÄyanna - About Ä BoyMatt Wilde - It's A DelightHak Baker - Nostalgia Death Act 2Curren$y & DJ.Fresh - The EncoreBigXthaPlug - TAKE CAREDua Saleh - I SHOULD CALL THEM Amaria - Free Fallin'Avery*Sunshine - So Glad to Know YouBnnyhunna - ECHOES OF PRAYER7xvethegenius - Death of DeuceSans Soucis - Circumnavigating GeorgiaSamRecks - BALANCEShocka - Vulnerability is the New CoolXV & Mike Summers - Blog Era Is Dead Topic Intro/Ben's Research House - (23:30)Recognition - (30:17)Original Guidance (The Second Chapter) - (44:42)Lighter Note - (58:43) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

In our 2nd UKBHM retrospective for the '24 crop, we get into the group Hardnoise, (Now known as Son Of Noise) who - along with temporary label mates Hijack - brought an antagonistic edge to UK Hip-Hop.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:47)Ben:Tee Grizzley - Post TraumaticThe Voidz - Like All Before YouJamie xx - In WavesCharlie:Mark Kavuma - The DandyLynda Dawn - 11th HourSuni MF - yellow goldAdrian Younge & Ali Shaheed Muhammad - Jazz Is Dead 021Master Peace - How To Make A(nuva) Master PeaceAwon & High John - Odyssey DiscoSeun Kuti & Egypt 80 - Heavier Yet (Lays The Crownless Head) Thee Sacred Souls - Got a Story To TellLeon Bridges - LeonKofi Stone - A Man After God's Own Heart Filah Lah Lah - ON AIRTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (18:37)The Mighty Son of Noise - (25:57)Access Denied: Bullshit and Politics Pt 1 - (32:55)Lighter Note - (44:47) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

For a bonus episode, an interview for you to step to! Charlie talks to UK DJ/Production duo The Allergies, talking their beginnings, how they gained/cultivated their taste; their new album "Freak The Speaker" and their Top 5. If you haven't spun a WG interview, here's a good gateway for you!Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Hold Please" & "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We begin our 2024 edition of our UK Black History Month series with one of UK Hip-Hop's earliest success stories in MC Duke who was the guy in the late 80s, culminating in two albums of varying quality and the American vocal inflections that was plaguing the early years of UK Hip-Hop.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:47)Ben:Tara Lily - Speak In The DarkCharlie:Vacatixn - GEMINI FLOWKamaiyah - Before We Party9th Wonder & Give Em Soul - ONE FORTY SEVENA-F-R-O - AFRODEEZEAK 2The Hoodies - NOBODY BIGGER THAN WEMysie - CONTROLLAMonaleo - Throwing BowsAmahla - Enough: The CollectionTara Lily - Speak In The DarkBilal - Adjust BrightnessNines - Quit While You're AheadTSHA - Sad GirlEzra Collective - Dance, No One's WatchingTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (18:55)Organised Rhyme - (28:47)Return of the Dread-i - (38:35)Lighter Note - (51:42)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The duo of Method Man & Redman seemed like an unofficial duo. They did a lot together in the late 90s/early 00s including "How High", two TV shows that got prematurely cancelled and of course the two "Blackout!" albums. But even with all that, it seemed like their partnership was more an "in the moment between friends" thing than genuinely building a musical legacy as a duo.Catch Up:Ep.128 - RedmanEp.149 - Method Man: The Book Of Wu - Chapter 4TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:24)Ben:MC Lyte - 1 of 1Future - MIXTAPE PLUTOCharlie:Jourden - Straight, No ChaseLady Blackbird - Slang SpiritualsAdanna Duru - stuck in a record dealParis Nights - Full Package: Act 2Jeryh Luz - LuzThe Alchemist - The Genuine ArticulateXenia Manasseh - LOVE/HATE Pt. 2Jaz Karis - SAFE FLIGHTSarina - What U Didn't KnowBlu & Exile - Love (the) Ominous WorldMC Lyte - 1 of 1Alemeda - FK ITNubya Garcia - Odyssey Topic Intro/Ben's Research House - (28:53)Blackout! - (37:39) Blackout! 2 - (46:52) Lighter Note - (1:00:41) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The trio of Naughty By Nature walked the tightrope better than anybody... Mainstream appeal but still Hip-Hop to the core; everybody and their grandmother has swayed to "Hip-Hop Hooray" and Naughty By Nature had the recipe for a few albums. But the tightrope walk didn't last forever.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:57)Ben:Paris Hilton - Infinite IconCharlie:Ian Kelly - A Summer Pack With LoveAmethyst - DaydreamingLARA' - LuvologyTerrace Martin - Nintindo SoulTalib Kweli & J. Rawls - The Confidence Of KnowingRAYE - Live at Montreux Jazz FestivalIndependent Leaders - (14:21)Naughty by Nature - (22:16)19 Naughty III - (31:42)Poverty's Paradise - (40:13)Nineteen Naughty Nine: Nature's Fury - (47:15)IIcons - (54:22)Anthem Inc. - (1:01:45)Lighter Note - (1:10:14) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

It's time for another edition of Contemporary Cool! For this one, we get into the Griselda project that arguably put them on the map in Benny The Butcher's "Tana Talk 3" & the absurdly stacked "D.I.T.C. - The Remix Project".TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:52)Ben:LL Cool J - THE FORCERansom x Conway - Chaos Is My Ladder 2Sleazyworld Go - More Than a ShooterCharlie:Slowly Rolling Camera - Silver Shadow Marquis Hill - Composers Collective: Beyond The JukeboxWill Kobus - the marble n' the sculptorLL Cool J - THE FORCELaila! - GAP YEAR!Nala Sinephro - EndlessnessThe Doppelgangaz - G Pack, Vol. 5Demae - Deliver MeTana Talk 3 - (16:02)'D.I.T.C. - The Remix Project' - (34:41)Lighter Note - (53:21) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

For the solo career of Guru, it is one that is - compared to Gang Starr - everything but consistent; mix it in with debates about how his relationship with Solar was in truth and you have a bit of a sad end to the life & career of one of the most distinctive voices in Hip-Hop.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:40)Ben:Big Sean - Better Me Than YouJuicy J - Ravenite Social ClubDoechii - Alligator Bites Never HealMozzy - Brash DummiesOcean Wisdom - Fight ClubCharlie:Audrey Powne - From the FireJuicy J - Ravenite Social ClubStephon Alexander - Spontaneous FruitJoya Mooi - Open HeartsLESiA - Affirmations To RealityK.A.A.N. & DJ Hoppa - In Due TimeK.A.A.N. & DJ Hoppa - Delusions Of GrandeurTank and The Bangas - The Heart, The Mind, The SoulDoechii - Alligator Bites Never HealCurren$y & DJ.Fresh - The Tonite Show The Sequel Big Sean - Better Me Than You Ocean Wisdom - Fight ClubTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (23:17)Guru's Jazzmatazz, Vol. 1 - (32:31)Guru's Jazzmatazz, Vol. 2: The New Reality - (43:35)Guru's Jazzmatazz, Vol. 3: Streetsoul - (52:29)Baldhead Slick & da Click - (58:19)Version 7.0: The Street Scriptures - (1:02:21)Guru's Jazzmatazz, Vol. 4: The Hip Hop Jazz Messenger: Back to the Future - (1:05:23)Guru 8.0: Lost and Found - (1:07:51)Lighter Note - (1:19:48)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The phrase "One of the Best Yet" has never been so apt. Maybe THE quintessential Golden Age Hip-Hop duo, Gang Starr started off with multiple iterations but once it was just the twosome of DJ Premier & Guru, it was over and it all culminated in projects from the late 80s to the late 2010s with the 90s work providing a shining example of what Hip-Hop was in the Golden Era.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:23)Ben:Planet Asia - Trust the Chain IIEminem - The Death of Slim ShadyCharlie:Hamzaa - 25!Rachel Chinouriri - Live From KOKOJWords - Beauty In EverythingMad Skillz - The Seven Number OnesThee Heart Tones - Forever & EverTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (9:48)No More Mr. Nice Guy - (18:15)Step in the Arena - (27:12)Daily Operation - (36:15)Hard to Earn - (44:47)Moment of Truth - (51:56)The Ownerz - (1:01:41)One of the Best Yet - (1:08:18)Lighter Note - (1:19:29)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Brooklynite Jeru The Damaja is a rapper that practiced what he preached. Whilst dropping two iconic "All Killer, No Filler" albums of the 90s, he watched Hip-Hop go commercial and made a point to not get swayed. Instead, he continued as an independent voice and cultivate a dedicated fanbase that love him to this day.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:56)Ben:Denzel Curry - King of the Mischievous South Vol. 238 Spesh - Mother & GunCharlie:Awon & Phoniks - Golden Era 2OneDa - Formula OneDa (Drops October 4th)Enough Cereals - ImpulseDiamond D - THE DIAM PIECE 3: INITIUM 38 Spesh - Mother & GunKalisway - A Kid From TorontoThe Allergies - Freak The Speaker (Drops September 27th)Essosa - Essie's WorldTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (12:41)The Sun Rises in the East - (18:18)Wrath of the Math - (25:32)Heroz4Hire - (34:39)Divine Design - (42:54)Still Rising - (48:17)Lighter Note - (57:20) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Twista is a fascinating case study. With his first four albums that drastically aim in different directions - only to settle on riding the wave of the 00s Hip-Hop sound - (for better or worse) it creates a frustrating picture of one of the most talented deliverer of words that instead made a full-throated push for the mainstream.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:54)Ben:MAVI - shadowboxBenny the Butcher - Summertime ButchBIGBABYGUCCI - Baby 5Charlie:Phonte - Pacific Time 2Ambré - i do this sh*t in my sleepChelsea Reject & T'nah - RogueWais P & Khrysis - HoecaineKaylan Arnold - If You Say SoRae Khalil - CRYBABYLogic - Ultra 85Milton Nascimento & Esperanza Spalding - Milton + esperanzaTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (11:53)Runnin' Off at da Mouth - (19:55)Resurrection - (27:04)Adrenaline Rush - (34:42)Kamikaze - (39:13)The Day After - (51:34)Adrenaline Rush 2007 - (58:28)Category F5 - (1:00:32)The Perfect Storm - (1:02:44)Dark Horse - (1:04:05)Crook County - (1:05:38)Summer 96 - (1:06:39)Lighter Note - (1:13:52)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Chino XL passed away at the age of 50 last week. So we pushed back the others to celebrate the career and artistry of one of the most respected names in the New York underground.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:48)Ben:JPEGMAFIA - I LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR YOUQ Da Fool - King GeorgeCharlie:Elsy Wameyo - Saint SinnerBadbadnotgood - Mid SpiralSamm Henshaw - For Someone Somewhere Who Isn't UsMoses Sumney - SophcoreCecily - Awakening Pt. IICaoilfhionn Rose - ConstellationsEssa & Pitch 92 - ResonanceCruza - CruzifedMeshell Ndegeocello - No More Water: The Gospel of James BaldwinTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (13:01)Here to Save You All - (20:31)I Told You So - (33:17)Poison Pen - (40:15)Ricanstruction: The Black Rosary - (47:18)Lighter Note - (1:06:23) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The story of Ja Rule is one that can only be described as a contextual nightmare. Whilst we can boil it down to "He had hits then 50 took his soul" and call it a day, there's so much under that surface that deserves a look, including music that perfectly exemplifies how fucking weird the 00s were.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:07)Ben:Mustard - Faith of a Mustard SeedRakim - G.O.Ds NETWORK - REB7RTHIce Spice - Y2k!Vic Spencer - The Apes That Was Left BehindDJ Muggs x Raz Fresco - The Eternal NowFlee Lord - Raised in the SandC Stunna x DJ Drama - Still StuntinCharlie:Splurgeboys - LOW MAINTENANCEMoses Ideka - Working OrderBrandee Younger - Serenity: A Collection Of Mindful MeditationsJayahadadream & Zoutr - Redemption SongsRakim - G.O.Ds NETWORK - REB7RTHDaniel Casimir - BalanceVic Spencer - The Apes That Was Left BehindTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (14:12)Venni Vetti Vecci - (22:27)Rule 3:36 - (32:15)Pain Is Love - (44:07)The Last Temptation - (57:00)Blood in My Eye - (1:02:54)R.U.L.E. - (1:09:55)Pain Is Love 2 - (1:17:25)Lighter Note - (1:28:28)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

King Tee's legacy is an underrated one. A West Coast darling, respected by his peers that put on a fair share of artists; you'd think his music would be more known? Especially when it's great for the most part! So was it a case of his peers just making better music or something deeper?TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:56)Ben:L'Orange - The ManipulationCharlie:Amindi - LuvrChenayder - Maybe In Another Life (EP)Lakecia Benjamin - Phoenix Reimagined (Live)Tha Dogg Pound - W.A.W.G. (We All We Got)Dizzy Wright - Emotional Discipline (EP) BLK ODYSSEY - 1-800 FANTASY L'Orange - The ManipulationJerome Thomas & Pitch 92 - Submerge Denzel Curry - King Of The Mischievous South Vol. 2Lava La Rue - STARFACETopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (16:54)Act a Fool - (22:32)At Your Own Risk - (30:20)Tha Triflin' Album - (39:04)IV Life - (45:28)Thy Kingdom Come - (51:18)Lighter Note - (1:12:03)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We head to the West Coast to cover the story of Tha Alkaholiks, a fun, don't-take-too-serious group that produced some of the most underrated gems of the 90s and managed to drop albums well into the 00s.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:18)Ben:Rema - HEISJuicy J x Xavier Wulf - Memphis ZooBlu x Evidence - Los AngelesZacari - BlissJay Worthy x Dam Funk - Magic HourIsaiah Falls - Drugs n LullabiesDemrick x DJ Hoppa - Stoney Point 4Common x Pete Rock - The Auditorium Vol. 1Charlie:Tank and The Bangas - The HeartHak Baker - Nostalgia Death Act 1Nayla Savannah - Savy WorldAntsLive - Real LifeJ.Rawls - Bump The FloorAction Bronson - JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACHLAVA THE DOCTORBashy - Being Poor is Expensive Berwyn - WHO AM Iedbl - 2010 MixtapeBlu & Evidence - Los AngelesCommon & Pete Rock - The Auditorium Vol. 1Topic Intro/Ben's Research House - (25:10)21 & Over - (33:49)Coast II Coast - (44:38)Likwidation - (49:34)X.O. Experience - (54:55)Firewater - (1:02:30)Lighter Note - (1:08:24) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Albeit a bit late, we take stock of 2024 in Hip-Hop so far, trying not to talk about the whale in the room for as long as we possibly can and instead talk about literally anything else.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:29)Ben:42 Dugg - 4eva Us Neva ThemThe Streets - Fabric PresentsCharlie:Gary Clark Jr. - JPEG RAWTyler Daley - Son of ZeusStefflon Don - Island 54Headie One - The Last OneNappyHigh & Maggie Kiing - EnigmaticAdia - Stubborn NatureSAULT - ACTS OF FAITH 0.0Ben's Album monologue - (18:46)Other topics - (49:38)Lighter Note - (1:24:24)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We kick back with another edition of Hip-Hop Neighbours, getting into the album that sent Jamiroquai into the stratosphere and a 90s UK Big Beat album from The Wiseguys, using both albums as foundations for a bigger conversations for music that's rooted in Black origin.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:35)Ben:Lupe Fiasco - SamuraiBoldy James x Conductor Williams - Across the TracksLil Yachty x James Blake - Bad CameoCharlie:PRICE & Kota The Friend - SANCTIONED VOL. 1OTG - No ScriptLupe Fiasco - Samurai Channel Tres - Head RushMarsha Ambrosious - CASABLANCOMegan Thee Stallion - MEGANTravelling Without Moving - (20:18)The Antidote - (46:44) Lighter Note - (1:11:07) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The story of 2 Live Crew is one of response. Response to reactionary pearl-clutching over their work which dared to talk out *checks notes* eating ass, among other things. This lead 2 Live Crew to lean all the way into being the flagbearers of the Miami Bass subgenre whilst getting everybody to free up their sexual inhibitions.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:54)Ben:da beatminerz - Stifled CreativityCharlie:John Glacier - Duppy GunCJ Fly - baitedCJ Fly & NasteeLuvzYou - thePhaRaOh'S return 2: NUBIA SuperJazz Club - MONOCHROME RADIOMaeta - Endless NightKaelin Ellis - You Are Here, StartLebra Jolie - What Was Said?Sango - North Vol. 2Homeboy Sandman - Rich IIDon Glori - Don't Forget to Have FunTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (10:44)The 2 Live Crew Is What We Are - (21:54)Move Somethin' - (29:51)As Nasty as They Wanna Be - (39:55)Banned in the U.S.A. - (51:43)Sports Weekend: As Nasty as They Wanna Be, Pt. 2 - (1:00:12)Back at Your Ass for the Nine-4 - (1:05:44)Lighter Note - (1:21:24)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Charlie's Photography, mentioned during the WMR.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We finish our five-part miniseries on the Little Brother universe with Part 2 of our 9th Wonder retrospective, looking at a Blog Era Mixtape, a solo album bursting with features, another - albeit odd choice of - Remix album and a Supergroup EP. Capping off a beginner's guide to one of the best "Death, Taxes & (Artist Name) dropping" careers in recent memory.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:12)Ben:Moby - Always Centered at Night$uicideboy$ - New World DepressionNormani - DOPAMINELUCKI - GeminiJason Martin - ChupacabraNxWorries - Why Lawd?u-ziq - GrushCharlie:Khrysis & Silent Snipers - Perfect TimeVanilla Is Black - U.Aint.Never.Lied!PJ Morton - Cape Town To CairoFana Hues - MothNormani - DOPAMINEZara McFarlane - Sweet Whispers: Celebrating Sarah VaughanNxWorries - Why Lawd? Kooley High & Tuamie - All InfiniteLalah Hathaway - VANTABLACKTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (19:24)Back To The Feature - (23:32)The Wonder Years - (35:53)Black American Gangster - (54:42)Dinner Party - (1:04:13)Lighter Note - (1:26:45)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

With Little Brother now explored, we can now get into the work of the distant 3rd member: Producer 9th Wonder who has spent a couple decades now letting his music do the talking, with many of collaborators in tow. In the first of two parts, we do something a little different and pick out two projects each that exemplify 9th and his legacy.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:29)Ben:Yelawolf - War StoryOpen Mike Eagle - Sir RockabyeKAYTRANADA - TIMELESSVince Staples - Dark TimesCharlie:KAYTRANADA - TIMELESSSHY FX & Mr. Williamz - Rudeboy Design SoundtapePip Millett - Tell Jimmy I'm FineCeline Love - Colouring InTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (12:30) God's Stepson - (23:54)Black Is Back - (35:06)Murray's Revenge - (48:08)Cloud 9: The 3 Day High - (1:01:54)Lighter Note - (1:12:39)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We continue our LB miniseries with an exploration into the solo work of Rapper Big Pooh who - unlike Phonte - has dropped a lot of solo work in the past 20 years.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:20)Ben:Dave East x Mike & Keys - APT 6EBig Hit x Hit-Boy & Alchemist - Black & WhitesCrimeapple x Big Ghost LTD - BazukoCharlie:Wretch 32 - Moments of SilenceIan Kelly - ARTOddisee - And Yet StillJONES - KaleidoscopeBaby Rose & BADBADNOTGOOD - Slow BurnThe Deli & Soupmakesitbetter - For Your Ears Not Your Bellynamesbliss - Lived ExperiencePotatohead People - Eat Your Heart Out Nascent - DON'T GROW UP TOO SOONBugzy Malone - The Great British DreamWolfgang Valbrun - Flawed by DesignTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (17:18)Sleepers - (23:05)The Delightful Bars - (26:44)Fat Boy Fresh Vol. 1: For Members Only - (29:43)Dirty Pretty Things - (32:33)"Fat Boy Fresh Vol. 3: Happy Birthday, Thomas" & "Fat Boy Fresh Vol. 3.5" - (34:54)Everything 4 Sale - (40:46)RPM - (43:20)To Dream In Color - (45:02)Lighter Note - (52:39)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

After exploring the music & story of Little Brother, it's time to get into the breakaway works. We begin with Phonte who spends the 2010s sporadically dropping works with a style not too distant from LB and with familiar names in tow.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:52)Ben:Juicy J - Mental Trillness 2Charlie:Halima - EXUVince Staples - Dark TimesShenseea - Never Gets Late HereOpek - The CallConfucius MC & Pitch 92 - Stop SignsLoyle Carner - hugo: reimagined (live from the Royal Albert Hall)Topic Intro/Ben's Research House - (13:56) Charity Starts At Home - (24:18)No News Is Good News - (33:31) Lighter Note - (48:01)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We head to North Carolina where a trio blooms out of a larger collective to become one of the biggest "if you know, you know" acts of the 00s: Little Brother with Phonte, Big Pooh and for a time, 9th Wonder.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:52)Ben:Rapsody - Please Don't CryMach-Hommy - #RICHHAXXHAITIANA Boogie - Better off AloneRio Da Yung OG - Rio Circa 2020Cities Aviv - Bernadette LeakShooterGang Kony - OPPS CAN'T HAVE FUNThom Yorke - ConfidenzeCharlie:Nigel Hall & DJ Harrison - The Burning Bush: A Journey Through the Music of Earth, Wind & FireMumu Fresh - The HealingKamaiyah - Figuring Out My EmotionsRapsody - Please Don't CryHit-Boy & Jay 305 - DON'T WAIT UNTIL I DIEVinocio - HorizonteBlu - abcTerrace Martin - Grounded Topic Intro/Ben's Research House - (15:37)The Listening - (24:56)The Minstrel Show - (33:13)Getback - (43:15)Leftback - (51:35)May the Lord Watch - (57:51)Lighter Note - (1:06:07) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Ras Kass presents a discography that is vast, two iconic albums in the 90s, then a litany of mixtapes in the 00s and then continuing his consistent output in the 10s with a return to studio albums. So with such a gap between his 2nd & 3rd solo albums, does his story provide context?TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:42)Ben:Conway the Machine - Slant Face KillerGhostface Killah - Set the ToneGunna - One of WunCharlie:Jorja Smith - falling or flying out (Reimagined)Jasmine Myra - RisingNubiyan Twist - Find Your FlameA-F-R-O - The Drawing BoardBigXthaPlug, Ro$ama & Yung Hood - MEET THE 6IXERSYaya Bey - Ten Fold Bryony Jarman-Pinto - Below DawnJordan Rakei - The LoopTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (16:00)Soul On Ice - (23:30)Rasassination - (30:16)Barmaggedon - (41:07)Intellectual Property - (46:53)Soul On Ice 2 - (54:12) Lighter Note - (1:06:51) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We return for Part 2 of our retrospective of Ice-T, where we left him off the back of his legendary four album run and the "Cop Killer" controversy; where would Ice take his art as he leaned more and more into other forms of media?TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:53)Ben:LeeV - Shadow DemonBoldy James - Trapper's AlleyPartynextdoor - 4Ahmad Anonimis - Mnt. Snug4Batz - u made me a st4rBen Beal x Wun Two - gazeboRome Streetz - Buck 50Spice 1 - Platinum OG 2Charlie:amir. - Three Of SwordsCassie Kinoshi's seed. W/ NikNak & London Contemporary Orchestra - gratitudeSlum Village - F.U.N.Liv.e - PAST FUTUR.eRachel Chinouriri - What A Devastating Turn of EventsTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (10:04)Home Invasion - (15:30)Ice-T VI: Return of the Real - (22:39)The Seventh Deadly Sin - (30:15)Gangsta Rap - (35:09)Lighter Note - (46:04) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

In conjunction with "What's Good?", this is a special DITD episode where Charlie heads to West London to talk with Garage pioneer and co-founder of Heartless Crew: MC Bushkin.In anticipation of his film "The Story So Far" premiering @ Genesis Cinema the same day this episode drops, Bushkin talks his beginnings, notable moments in his Heartless Crew years but more broadly, get into the connections between Garage, Grime and beyond; also tracing the absurd rate of evolution Black British Music had in the 90s/00s, with Bushkin right there through all of it. if you recently spun Narduwar's interview with Skepta, this'll be a great opportunity for you to go deeper into the history that made the likes of Skepta and his contemporaries.Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

For this Hip-Hop Neighbours - linked to our Ice-T exploration - we cover the self-titled album Body Count and we also get into the first album from the UK based collective SAULT: "5".TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:57)Ben:Backwood Sweetie - Burn OneBerner - The Farmer's MarketGangrene - Heads I Win, Tails You LoseHus KingPin - In a State of NirvanaBaby Rose x BADBADNOTGOOD - Slow BurnTaylor Swift - Tortured Poets DeptartmentCharlie:Oscar #Worldpeace - Mum, Pray for Your SonSwank & King Draft - Vice CityBlue Lab Beats - Blue EclipseBody Count - (9:29) 5 - (31:42) Lighter Note - (44:17) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We stay in the West Coast AND the late 80s/early 90s to do a two-parter on one of the most authentic voices to ever represent Hip-Hop: Ice-T.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:55)Ben:NappyHigh - BurgundyFuture x Metro Boomin - We Still Don't Trust YouCharlie:DRAGG - Mixed FeelingsNappyHigh - BurgundyNia Archives - Silence Is LoudTerri Walker & Zed Bias - My Love Story (Zed Bias Remixes)Summers Sons - Still Nothing StillShabaka - Perceive Its Beauty, Acknowledge Its GraceTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (13:05)Rhyme Pays - (26:00)Power - (35:20)The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech...Just Watch What You Say - (45:15)O.G. Original Gangster - (54:47)Lighter Note - (1:08:45)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

This week, we celebrate DITD's 5th birthday with a pop quiz from Ben, thoughts on the Pod in general and yes, we talk about the Cole response to Kendrick.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:46)Ben:J.Cole - Might Delete LaterGloRilla - Ehhthang EhhthangChris Patrick - The CalmDoja Cat - Scarlet 2 ClaudeCharlie:Dizzy Wright - Harsh RealityKhruangbin - A LA SALAKeen - Feel Good. Do Better.Louis Culture - I Can't Wait To See U AgainAmy Gadiaga - All Black EverythingReuben Vincent - General AdmissionSAMSON - UNDERSTAND.Marv Won - I'm Fine, Thanks For AskingIYAMAH - In Two WorldsJosé James - 1978Bryson Tiller - Bryson TillerNectar Woode - Nothing To LoseAkua Naru - All About Love: New VisionsLighter Note: (1:21:00)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

After exploring The Conscious Daughters last week, it seemed fitting to explore the career of their biggest advocate and one of the most controversial voices in 90s Hip-Hop: Paris.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:01)Ben:Beyoncé - COWBOY CARTERBfb Da Packman - Forget Me NotRico Nasty - HARCORE DR3AMZRoc Marciano - MarciologyCharliePaolo Baldini DubFiles - In The ShellSuper Helpful Kwame - Greetings From TatooineReggie Becton - Sadboy, Vol. 2Jordy - SNMFifidiny - Better ManKatori Walker - Mezzanine Sainte - Still LocalBuddy - Don't Forget To BreatheIn These Trees & Tartie - The QuiverBlu & Shafiq Husayn - Out Of The BlueBeyoncé - COWBOY CARTERTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (22:30)The Devil Made Me Do It - (30:43)Sleeping with the Enemy - (42:53)Guerrilla Funk - (57:44)Unleashed - (1:06:23)Sonic Jihad - (1:14:39)Acid Reflex - (1:21:18)Pistol Politics - (1:24:31)Safe Space Invader - (1:27:16)Lighter Note - (1:31:56) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

To finish our Women's History Month celebrations, we stay in the West Coast to talk about a duo that oozed chemistry and confidence, only to be washed out by the industry changing direction. We talk The Conscious Daughters.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:48)Ben:Future x Metro Boomin - WE DON'T TRUST YOUSiR - HEAVYElbow - Audio VertigoJoyner Lucas - Not Now I'm BusyCharlie:Summers Sons - EpiletricKing Isis - shedMyCompiledThoughts - Soul Brother Chapter 1SiR - HEAVYJrose - Pieces of My Crumbled ThoughtsBackwood Sweetie - Burn OneTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (13:58) Ears To The Streets - (20:15) Gamers - (28:39) Lighter Note - (46:12) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We continue our WHM celebrations with a trip to the West Coast, but not Oakland or Los Angeles. For the first time, we head to Sacramento for the story of Marvaless and the litany of Sac Town representers that come with her through her discography.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:56)Ben:yeat - 2093Kembe x Hippie Sabotage - Sleep ParalysisTierra Whack - WORLD WIDE WHACKFour Tet - ThreeKenny Mason - 9Yung Lean x Bladee - PsykosNejma - Animal Barz24kGoldn - Growing painsCharlie:An Alien Called Harmony - An Alien Called HarmonyTerrace Martin - Two Drink MinimumNejma Nefertiti, Double A.B. & Dub Sonata - Animal BarzRaedio - Black & Unlimited Flo Milli - Fine Ho, StayTierra Whack - WORLD WIDE WHACKCHUCK STRANGERS - A Forsaken Lover's PleaTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (20:16) Ghetto Blues - (25:19)Wiccked - (32:20)Fearless - (39:25)Ghetto Blues 2001 - (44:06)Ready Made - (52:12)Lighter Note - (1:02:11)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Continuing our WHM celebrations during the month of March, we get into another artist with one solo album, no longer with us after her passing in 2022: Hurricane GTIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup: (1:17)Ben:MIKE - PinballScHoolboy Q - Blue LipsCookin Soul x Raz Fresco - Bakin' SoulKaiser Chiefs - Easy Eighth AlbumMGMT - Loss of LifeKYLE - Smyle AgainSkyzoo & The Other Guys - Mind of a Saint (Deluxe)Jean Dawson - BoohooCharlie:speedrun - Love's Latest NewsBXKS - One TimeZada - WATER IN THE DESERTJynx716 & Che Noir - ANDYDayme Arocena - AlkemiLiam Bailey - Zero Grace Erick The Architect - I've Never Been Here BeforeScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPSGhetts - On Purpose, With PurposeMaster Peace - How To Make A Master PeaceAyanna Witter-Johnson - Colour WarJ.PERIOD - J.PERIOD Presents... Story To Tell (Chapter Two)Bishop Nehru - Kult Life Chapter 1: From Pain To PaintingsTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (19:43) All Woman - (24:31)Lighter Note - (53:37) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Happy March one & all! You know what that means... Women's History Month on DITD is back and to kick off this year's set, we begin with the one & done Sister Souljah who took the political climate of her time to produce one of the most honest & politically scathing records in Hip-Hop history.No timestamps for this episode as we don't have a WMR or a substantial Lighter Note, reason being that we recorded this on the same day as the previous episode.Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

LIVE FROM LONDON, we get into one special work from a true "If you know, you know" group: Cymande. We also get the low down on Ben's 1st week in London.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:39)Charlie:Jordan Mackampa - WELCOME HOME, KID!dreamcastmoe - MOLLY'S SONThe Silhouettes Project - The Silhouettes Project, Vol. 2Joel Ross - nubluesKelela - RAVE:N, The RemixesJohn Glacier - Like A RibbonBishop Nehru - 4 The NONERS LaRussell & Hit-Boy - RENT DUECymande - (7:28)Ben's Lighter Note - (41:50)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

We finish our Public Enemy three-parter with their most recent output with more friction from the inside and the outside but somehow, Public Enemy still continue to drop and tour the world; never dead, never deterred.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:00)Ben:Yeat - 2093Conway x Big Ghost - Speshal Machinery the Chronic Edition2nd Generation Wu x Dom Archey - This May Sting!Charlie:Fatima - Love On Acid (EP)Ol' Burger Beats - 74: Out of TimeShae Universe - Love's LetterTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (6:18)How You Sell Soul to a Soulless People Who Sold Their Soul??? - (9:56)Most of My Heroes Still Don't Appear on No Stamp & The Evil Empire of Everything - (17:09)Man Plans God Laughs - (25:30)Nothing Is Quick in the Desert - (30:04)Loud Is Not Enough - (34:14)What You Gonna Do When the Grid Goes Down? - (38:54)Lighter Note - (49:45) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

In our 2nd part of the Public Enemy retrospective, we see how PE should have imploded and become one of the many groups in the 90s to break up; but not only did they not break up, they kept dropping (to mixed results) and predicting the future of the music industry still to come to fruition.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:09)Ben:Little Simz - Drop 7Fivio Foreign - Pain & Love 2Dizzee Rascal - Don't Take It PersonalBlu & Roy Royal - Royal BluCharlie:Little Simz - Drop 7Adanna Duru - NAPPY HOUR IIBlu & Roy Royal - Royal BluTerrace Martin - Her ThoughtsDJ Harrison - Shades of YesterdayDizzee Rascal - Don't Take It PersonalAwon & Parental - SublimeBrittany Howard - What NowTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (12:17)Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black - (20:27)Muse Sick-n-Hour Mess Age - (31:20)He Got Game - (33:24)There's a Poison Goin' On - (50:46)Revolverlution - (1:01:51)New Whirl Odor - (1:08:48)Lighter Note - (1:22:58) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

In part one of three, we get into the beginnings of Public Enemy and their first three albums, two of which considered to be consensus classics and some of the most authentically Hip-Hop albums ever made.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:39)Ben:Skelbeats - What goes on in the DarkLee "Scratch" Perry - King PerryIcewear Vezzo - Live from the 6Hit-Boy x Alchemist - THEODORE & ANDREThe Musalini x 38 Spesh - In God We TrustChe Noir - The Color Chocolate, Vol. 1Kevin Gates - The CeremonyLyrical Lemonade - All is YellowBenny the Butcher - Everybody Can't GoMarco Polo x Masta Ace - Richmond HillGroundwork - The G Tape: Volume 3Future Islands - People Who Aren't There AnymoreCharlie:Che Noir - The Color Chocolate, Vol. 1Highlyy - +243MiLES. - Life Thru New LensKota The Friend - Lyrics To GO, Vol. 5Vic Spencer & Original Super Legend - Be Double Clip TightMasta Ace & Marco Polo - Richmond HillTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (13:44)Yo! Bum Rush the Show - (29:01)It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - (37:17)Fear of a Black Planet - (49:37)Lighter Note - (1:05:22)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

TW: Lyrics/talk referencing Sexual Assault.After last episode's foray into the solo career of Kool G Rap, we now look into the work that he did before with DJ Polo: Three albums of ground-breaking work for KGR and his peers.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:31)Ben:Zaddytc - A LOTFredo Bang - Yes, I'm SadElcamino - Here You GoEldorado Red - 48 Hours in San FranciscoHus KingPin x 9th Wonder - The SupergoatCharlie:Da Flyy Hooligan & Wun Two - Nocturnal Hooli Vol. 1Deshawn Visionz - Thank God For The HomiesHus Kingpin & 9th Wonder - The SupergoatArrested Development - Bullets In The ChamberKid Cudi - INSANOUMI - talking to the windNot The Singer - Knew I CouldKeyon Harrold - ForeverlandTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (8:09)Road to the Riches - (15:27)Wanted: Dead or Alive - (24:27)Live and Let Die - (38:29)Lighter Note - (48:29) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Kool G Rap: The ultimate "If you know KGR, you know ball". Whilst KGR never got the commercial success, his legacy as a lyrical pioneer is rooted deeply in your favourites and your favourites' favourite.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:07)Ben:Kid Cudi - INSANOC-Scripture - Penalty of LeadershipTeezo Touchdown - How Do You Sleep At Night DeluxeUnknown T - Blood DiamondDJ Booker x NLE Choppa - The Chosen OnesD-Block Europe - Rolling Stone21 Savage - american dreamBruiser Wolf - My Story Got StoriesCharlie Say She She - SilverTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (9:52)4,5,6 - (22:24)Roots of Evil - (32:13)The Giancana Story - (43:20)Half a Klip - (56:27)Riches, Royalty, Respect - (1:00:12)Return of the Don - (1:02:23)Last of a Dying Breed - (1:05:22)Lighter Note - (1:10:25)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The King Asiatic Nobody's Equal. Brooklynite Big Daddy Kane came through the 80s as one of the best freestylers in the Five Boroughs and once he got with Cold Chillin' and the Juice Crew, Kane would prove that he is one of the most complete rappers of all time.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:56)Ben:Westside Gunn, Conway, Alchemist - Hall & Nash 2The Game x Big Hit - Paisley DreamsUfo361 - SONYCharlie: (All released in '23)Butcher Brown - Solar MusicBloody Civilian - Anger ManagementThe Ironsides - Changing LightMMYYKK - The Midst of ThingsTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (8:37)Long Live the Kane - (18:56)It's a Big Daddy Thing - (29:10)Taste of Chocolate - (39:43)Prince of Darkness - (49:24)Looks Like a Job For... - (58:23)Daddy's Home - (1:06:52)Veteranz' Day - (1:16:14)Lighter Note - (1:31:25)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Happy New Year one and all! We hope that your year is full of progression, growth and 52 episodes of DITD! But before we go forward, we look back one more time to 2023, talking about our Top 2 albums of 2023.Ben's No.2 - (3:25)Charlie's No. 2 - (26:20)Ben's No. 1 - (39:08)Charlie's No. 1 - (1:00:11) Lighter Note - (1:11:27)Charlie's Top 10 Albums of 2023 Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Happy holidays one & all! To celebrate, we keep it simple and review the Metacritic Hip-Hop album scores for the year of 2023.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:47)Ben:Conway x Wun Two - PalermoWizkid - S2Layzie Bone - Hypnotic RhythmsCharlie:Ruinz Ason - Airplane Mode (Deluxe)Morena Santi - Santi SoundsList Review - (4:55)Last minute recommendations of the year - (1:15:47)Lighter Note - (1:23:38)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The first two albums by J-Live are some of the most consistent works in Hip-Hop history. What's even more impressive is that they're both over 70 minutes. But what about the rest of his work as he walked through the desert that was the 00s Hip-Hop scene.Weekly Music Roundup - (0:57)Ben:Bas - We Only Talk About...Curren$y x Trauma Tone - Highway 600ASAP Twelvvy - Kids Gotta Eat Da DeluxeBigWalkDog - PlayoffGucci Mane x B.G. - Choppers & BricksPeter Gabriel - i/oKylie Minogue - TensionCharlie:Big K.R.I.T. - Regardless It's Still TimelessCoast Contra - The Old WayTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (7:43)The Best Part - (21:06)All of the Above - (30:47)The Hear After - (38:25)Then What Happened? - (44:48)S.P.T.A. (Said Person of That Ability) - (51:56)Around the Sun / His Own Self / How Much Is Water? - (56:11)Lighter Note - (1:00:52) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

With the genocide/ethnic cleansing of Gaza/Palestinians ongoing, we have a conversation that we previously had in the heat of the protests in 2020 (You can listen here) and felt that we needed to have again: What is the place of our favourite entertainers/celebrities when it comes to issues as large as the ones happening in 2023? The answer ironically involves all of us.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:56)Ben:Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday 2Charlie:Ayanna - In A Perfect WorldYoni Mayraz - Dybbuk Tse!Blu & Nottz - Afrika The Conversation: (07:36)Lighter Note: (1:06:17) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

Large Professor is an interesting solo case in Hip-Hop history; an artist with a solid solo discography but his legacy is instead tied into being of service to a litany of legends. Where do you place someone like that in the annals of Hip-Hop history?(Check our Main Source episode for more LargePro)TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (1:00)BenConway x Conductor - Conductor MachineSexyy Red - Hood Hottest Princess DeluxeDave East x Cruch Calhoun - 30 for 30CharlieBigXthaPlug - The BiggestZino Vinci - Filthy & DisgustingAmaria - All For YouDestiny Briona - Girls From AtlantaAZ - Truth Be ToldElzhi & Oh No - Heavy VibratoTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (8:37)The LP - (19:34)1st Class - (26:26)Main Source - (32:14)Professor @ Large - (37:17)Re: Living - (40:19)Lighter Note - (48:40)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

It's time to take a trip into the future - to the year 3030 - through the sonic landscape painted by a trio that combine to make Deltron 3030: Del The Funky Homosapien, Dan The Automator & DJ Kid Koala.Weekly Music Roundup - (0:58)Charlie:FloFilz & Bokoya - Soft EncounterGianni Brezzo & Bokoya - MinariBackwood Sweetie & K!NG jvmes - SyzygyLayfullstop - RUGGEDKarl Benjamin - There In 5 Astrocolor - Moonlighting - AstroJazz Vol. 1Tapioca - Samba em KigaliNicholson. - September SkyJose James - On & OnThe Circling Sun - SpiritsBen:Kamaiyah - Another Summer NightBuck 65 x Doseone & Jel - North American AdonisBoobie Lootavelli - FUMBLE!Busta Rhymes - BLOCKBUSTABlaQ Chidori x Barto100 - At Ya NeckBig Moochie Grape - East Haiti Baby: IncarceratedTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (10:10)Deltron 3030 - (15:33)Event 2 - (32:14)Lighter Note - (45:23)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

For the 11th Contemporary Cool, we get into Bey & Jay's "EVERYTHING IS LOVE" & Hempress Sativa's debut album "Unconquerebels.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (2:20) (Ben = Bold / Charlie = Italics)J57 - If I Should Wake Before I DieAndré 3000 - New Blue SunDrake - Scary Hours 3Protoje & Zion I Kings - In Search Of ZionSkipp - Summer Of Love: An Audio Experience Of A Hip-Hop SortBlack Pumas - Chronicles of a DiamondEgo Ella May - FIELDNOTES PT IIIBJ The Chicago Kid - GravyK.A.A.N & MIKE SUMMERS - The Nightly NewsJourney Montana - StargirlH31R (JWords & maassai) - HeadSpacedouniah - A Lot, Not Too MuchSummer-Pearl - outmysystem Danny Brown - QuarantaSamory I - StrengthSirens Of Lesbos - PeaceTerrace Martin & Gallant - sneekTerrace Martin & Calvin Keys - The Near North SideEmeli Sandé - How Were We To KnowThandi Ntuli & Carlos Niño - Rainbow RevisitedEVERYTHING IS LOVE - (21:32)Unconquerebels - (45:18) "Lighter" Note - (1:00:47) Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence

The legacy of Nujabes is one of how music should feel. That essence of when you listen to it, it instantly feeds your soul; whilst dubbing Nujabes as "The Godfather of Lo-Fi" is fine, he should be recognised as something, higher. A person that linked Hip-Hop and Jazz as good as anyone, providing the perfect example of why knowing the roots always produces better work.TIMESTAMPS:Weekly Music Roundup - (0:58) (Ben = Bold / Charlie = Italics)Tee Grizzley - Tee's Coney Island (Deluxe)Aesop Rock - Integrated Tech SolutionsWiki x Tony Seltzer - 14K FigaroLord Apex - The Good FightLarry June x Cardo - The Night ShiftCoops - Home GrownJoel Culpepper - Happiness Is Only A Few Miles Away Mega - Honour and GloryA-F-R-O, Ikom & Camee - Ain't Nothin!Chase & Status - Too Ruff, Vol. 1Kokoroko - Could We Be More RemixesDevon Gilfillian - Love You AnywayKhalia - Stay TrueTopic Intro/Ben's Research House - (13:51)Metaphorical Music - (27:07)Modal Soul - (37:50)Spiritual State - (58:56)Lighter Note - (1:10:38)Thanks for listening. Below are the Social accounts for all parties involved.Music - "Pizza And Video Games" by Bonus Points (Thanks to Chillhop Music for the right to use)HHBTN (Twitter & IG) - @HipHopNumbers5E (Twitter & IG) - @The5thElementUKChillHop (Twitter) - @ChillhopdotcomBonus Points (Twitter) - @BonusPoints92Other Podcasts Under The 5EPN:"What's Good?" W/ Charlie TaylorIn Search of SauceBlack Women Watch...5EPN RadioThe Beauty Of Independence