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Ep 763,700 Days and Counting: Kerry Little on Ironman, Boston, and the Luke's Locker Legacy | The OGs

Welcome to The OGs: DFW's Running Pioneers - a series dedicated to the runners who built the DFW running community from nothing. These are the originals. The ones who ran when nobody cared, when the shoes were garbage, when there were no gels, barely any water, and definitely no fanfare. They did it because they loved it, and they created the foundation we're all standing on today.Kerry Little launches the series with an incredible journey: growing up as a swimmer in Illinois, moving to Texas in the early '80s, and discovering she could run - really run. Her first marathon? A 3:15 that would still turn heads today. Multiple Boston qualifiers, Ironman Hawaii, coaching with Luke's training programs, and a current streak of over 3,700 consecutive days of running. Now working at Luke's Locker Dallas (Mockingbird/75) for 17 years, Kerry connects the past to the present, sharing what it really took to be a runner when running was still finding its identity.

Dec 28, 202541 min

Ep 7529-Year-Old Steven Fahy Runs 2:23 Marathon Debut to Win Dallas Marathon 2025 & Join DFW's Rising Running Elite

New Blood: DFW's Young Guns Raising the BarThe bar just got raised in Dallas.Steven Fahy, a 29-year-old NCAA steeplechase champion and Brooks Running employee, just won the Dallas Marathon in his debut with a time of 2:23:28 - making him the fastest marathoner in DFW at this moment. But this isn't just a story about natural talent crushing a race. It's about rediscovering why you run in the first place.This episode kicks off New Blood, a special DFW Running Talk series spotlighting the next generation of elite runners who are redefining what's possible in North Texas. These aren't your average weekend warriors - they're 20-somethings running sub-2:25 marathons, breaking 3:05 on their debuts, and proving that the future of competitive running in DFW is already here.After an accomplished collegiate career at Stanford (2019 NCAA steeplechase champion, five-time All-American, two-time Pac-12 champion), Steven moved to Dallas in 2023 and spent two years running solo. It wasn't until summer 2024 that he connected with the Sloths and local running community, transforming his training and reigniting his competitive fire.Steven shares what it's like to win a marathon on the same routes you train daily, surrounded by the people who pushed you all season. He opens up about the mental shift from collegiate pressure to post-collegiate joy, why he's eyeing Eugene Marathon next, and what "bottle service for elites" really means.This is the new generation of DFW running - fast, humble, and here to stay.What You'll Learn:How a 2019 NCAA champion found his running community in DallasThe strategy behind winning your first marathon at 2:23Training alongside the Sloths, Train Pegasus, and DFW's best at Germany ParkWhy Steven almost thought Matt Campbell would beat him at the 1776 MileThe post-collegiate identity crisis every runner facesWhat's next: Eugene Marathon and the long-term marathon journeyPerfect for: Young competitive runners, post-collegiate athletes looking for direction, anyone curious about what elite-level marathon training looks like in DFW

Dec 22, 20251h 5m

Ep 74How a Non-High School Runner Built a 2:28 Marathon in Indianapolis: Brent Woodle's Path to Elite Masters

Brent Woodle didn't run competitively in high school or college—he was too busy playing World of Warcraft. But after moving to Dallas at 25 with no friends and a bucket list goal to run a marathon, he joined every running club he could find. Fast forward to today, and Brent is one of the fastest masters runners in DFW, with a 2:28 marathon PR.In this episode, recorded before the Dallas Marathon (where Brent would go on to run 2:39:05), we dive deep into what it takes to run at an elite level as a masters athlete. Fresh off running 2:28:26 at the Indianapolis Marathon, Brent shares his high-volume training philosophy—100-mile weeks, running twice a day six days per week, tempo-focused workouts over VO2 max intervals, and the importance of making running a daily habit. He opens up about the mental battles of goal-setting, recovering from burnout after Houston Marathon, and the sacrifices required—giving up alcohol during training cycles and prioritizing eight hours of sleep every night.Whether you're chasing your own PR or curious about what separates good runners from great ones, Brent's story offers candid insights into the discipline, routine, and mental approach needed to compete at the highest level while balancing a 16-year career as a software engineer and raising two young kids.Episode Highlights:How Brent went from casual runner to 2:28 marathoner without running in high school or collegeHis high-volume training approach: doubles six days per week, prioritizing frequency over intensityWhy running two 5-milers is better than one 10-miler for injury prevention and recoveryRace fueling strategy: consuming 900+ calories during marathons with Maurten gels and mixThe mental challenge of pacing and avoiding the trap of starting too fastPlans for Paris and Chicago marathons in 2026 at age 41The importance of running community and lifelong friendships built through the sport

Dec 17, 202548 min

Ep 73McKirdy Trained Coach Ruth Atkinson on Building Durable Runners

Ruth Atkinson is helping runners of all levels achieve their own breakthroughs as a coach with McKirdy Trained.In this episode, Ruth shares her unconventional path to running, starting with a spontaneous decision to go for a run instead of watching Grey's Anatomy one night in 2018. With a background in music education and drum corps, Ruth brings a unique perspective to coaching that emphasizes patience, curiosity, and building durable runners through strength training.We dive deep into her coaching philosophy, including why new marathoners shouldn't set time goals for their first race, the critical importance of fueling (hint: one gel isn't enough), and why single-leg strength training is essential for injury prevention. Ruth also shares practical advice for runners at every level and her powerful message about not counting yourself out, no matter your pace or experience.Whether you're a beginner contemplating your first 5K or an experienced runner chasing a PR, Ruth's insights will inspire you to stay curious and keep pushing your limits.Connect with Ruth: McKirdy TrainedSubscribe to DFW Running Talk on your favorite podcast platform and https://dfwrunningtalk.substack.com/ for more content!

Dec 10, 202547 min

Ep 72Running the World Marathon Challenge Twice with Dallas White Rock Marathon Board Member Paul Box

Paul Box is the embodiment of running as adventure. Starting his serious running journey at age 30 with a 3:29 marathon, Paul has become a 12-time Boston Marathon finisher, ultrarunning enthusiast, and two-time World Marathon Challenge finisher (7 marathons, 7 continents, 7 days).As a board member of the Dallas White Rock Marathon, Paul is helping elevate the race by bringing in approximately 150 NAIA Championship athletes and restarting the partnership with Sendai, Japan. He shares his passion for FKTs (Fastest Known Times), running from the Caribbean to the Pacific in Panama, organizing the Waxahatchee 50-miler for 500 runners, and why the 50-mile distance might be the perfect ultra.Whether you're chasing a BQ, curious about ultras, or dreaming of your next running adventure, Paul's philosophy is simple: go out and find your adventure in this beautiful world.

Dec 2, 202550 min

Ep 71Building Community Through Kindness: The Plano Running Club Story with Shirley Barbaro

In this inspiring episode, Chris sits down with Shirley Barbaro, founder of Plano Running Club, to hear one of the most remarkable late-bloomer running stories you'll ever encounter. Shirley didn't run a single mile until 2010, and what started as a reluctant journey at Russell Creek Park in the freezing dark turned into something extraordinary—she won her age group and Boston qualified in her very first marathon just a year later.But this episode isn't just about personal achievement. Shirley shares the heartwarming story of how she built Plano Running Club from 12 people in 2013 to over 5500 members today, all founded on the same kindness and community support that kept her going as a brand-new runner. From their signature early morning coffee runs to traveling across the country as mobile cheer squads, this club embodies what running community is all about.Whether you're a seasoned marathoner or someone who's never laced up running shoes, Shirley's story proves it's never too late to start—and that the best reason to build a running club might just be selfishness (you'll have to listen to understand!).

Nov 27, 202535 min

Ep 70Behind the Scenes: Dallas Marathon Leaders Marcus Grunewald & Jodi Jordan Reveal New McKinney Race + December Details

This is a special episode of DFW Running Talk! Host Chris Detzel sits down with Marcus Grunewald (Executive Managing Director) and Jodi Jordan (Operations Director) of the Dallas White Rock Marathon Organization for an announcement you don't want to miss.BREAKING NEWS Hosted by TUPPS Brewery: The Dallas Marathon organization is launching the McKinney Historic Half Marathon presented by BMW on March 28, 2026! Starting at McKinney City Hall and finishing at Tupps Brewery, this inaugural event will feature a half marathon, 5K, and Kids 100M Dash, with proceeds benefiting Scottish Rite for Children of Frisco. Expect around 4,000 runners and the same world-class organization that's made the Dallas Marathon a 54-year tradition.In this conversation, you'll also learn:Marcus's incredible running journey from college beer gut to 50-mile ultramarathons to weightlifting and back to runningJodi's transformation from college partier to half Ironman finisher and marathon operations expertBehind-the-scenes insights into organizing the 54th annual BMW Dallas Marathon (December 12-14, 2025)How the Dallas Marathon team has grown to 5 full-time employees and continues to enhance one of Texas's premier marathonsCourse details, community partnerships, and what makes the Dallas Marathon specialThe unique McKinney course featuring historic downtown, new neighborhoods, and park trailsWhether you're planning to run the BMW Dallas Marathon this December or considering the new McKinney Historic Half in March, this episode gives you the inside scoop from the people who make it all happen.McKinney Historic Half registration is now OPEN: Register here

Nov 12, 202546 min

Ep 69From Olympic Trials to Open Surgery: Cait Keen Harris on 7 Years to Diagnosis

In this powerful and candid conversation recorded just weeks before her wedding, Olympic Marathon Trials qualifier Cait Keen Harris opens up about a journey that goes far beyond the finish line. Fresh off major surgery for an 11-centimeter fibroid—a condition that took seven years and four doctors to diagnose—Cait shares her story of advocacy, resilience, and what it means to be sidelined from the sport you love.From her early days running cross country in high school (always the bridesmaid, never the bride at Texas state championships) to qualifying for the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials, Cait traces her evolution as a competitive runner. But this conversation goes deeper than PRs and race strategy. She discusses the physical and mental toll of undiagnosed health issues, the frustration of being dismissed by medical professionals, and how symptoms like extreme fatigue and low iron were too often chalked up to "just being a female runner."Three weeks post-surgery and juggling wedding preparations, Cait reflects on canceling the Berlin Marathon, navigating recovery without her running community, and learning to slow down for the first time in her life. She shares insights on the psychological effects of major surgery, the importance of finding doctors who listen, and why 2026 might be her year of rebirth—focusing on health, stress management, and running without the gas pedal to the floor.Whether you're dealing with your own health challenges, training for your next race, or simply love stories of perseverance, this episode offers hope, humor, and a reminder that sometimes the strongest thing you can do is rest.

Nov 6, 202556 min

Ep 68Beyond the Lakes: Dr. Cornetta Mosley on Finding Freedom in Running

In this inspiring episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Dr. Cornetta Mosley, Run Captain for Run It Up Dallas and professor of audiology at UT Dallas.Dr. Mosley takes us through her evolution as a runner—from her days as a sprinter and hurdler at Lake Highlands High School, to discovering the meditative power of distance running around the lakes at LSU, all the way to becoming a marathon runner and community leader in Dallas.But this conversation goes far beyond personal PRs. Netta opens up about the radical work Run It Up is doing to create space for Black and Brown runners in a sport that has historically lacked diversity. She shares the philosophy behind what she calls "the beautiful bait and switch"—attracting people with the energy and community, then watching them fall in love with running itself.In this episode, you'll hear about:How running became Netta's "most successful relationship" and mental escapeThe transition from competitive sprinting to finding freedom in distance runningWhy representation matters in running and on the podiumThe Run It Up Foundation's impact through health clinics, screenings, and literacy programsThe transformative "Get Off the Couch" program and its life-changing resultsHow community and leadership create sustainable change in people's livesWhether you're a seasoned runner or just getting started, this episode will remind you why running is about so much more than miles—it's about building community, creating opportunity, and transforming lives.Connect with Run It Up Dallas on Instagram and join a movement that's changing the face of running in DFW.

Oct 31, 202550 min

Ep 673:25 to 2:50 in Three Marathons: Madeleine Rouse's Breakthrough Season

In this refreshingly honest episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Madeleine Rouse, a runner whose story defies every typical running origin story you've ever heard.Forget soccer. Madeleine's athletic background includes figure skating (where she admits she wasn't very good), horseback riding, swimming, and playing third-string field hockey while "running aimlessly up and down the field" to look busy. She never touched a soccer ball growing up and was "painfully uncoordinated in every area of my life."Fast forward to adulthood, and Madeleine pulled off one of the most dramatic marathon progressions you'll hear: 3:25 to 3:19 to 2:50 in just three marathons. That's a 35-minute drop that she describes as her "magical season" - a breakthrough that seemed almost impossible.But this isn't just another "I got really fast" story. Madeleine opens up about what comes after the breakthrough - the pressure, the expectations, and the reality of trying to maintain elite performance after having twins. She candidly discusses feeling like she's been "running into a brick wall," the temptation to retire after achieving her PR, and the slow process of rediscovering her motivation.From choosing theater over track in middle school to training with "The Sloths" in Dallas, Madeleine's journey is equal parts inspiring and relatable. Whether you're chasing your first PR or struggling to recapture past glory, this conversation about resilience, self-compassion, and finding joy in running again will resonate deeply.Tune in for an authentic discussion about the highs, the lows, and everything in between.

Oct 25, 202557 min

Ep 663:04 and Counting: How Kendall Rose Became a Coach, CIM Ambassador, and Sub-3 Hopeful

In this episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Kendall Rose, a rising star in the Dallas running community who's quickly making her mark as both an elite marathoner and certified running coach.Kendall shares her inspiring journey from a burned-out college athlete who barely ran during her time at Texas A&M to a sub-3:05 marathoner with her sights set on breaking 3 hours at the 2025 California International Marathon (CIM). Along the way, she opens up about:Running Highlights:Her unconventional return to running through a golden doodle puppy and F45 classesA breakthrough first half marathon (1:35) that led to marathon trainingThe painful lessons from her first marathon at Irving (3:36)Earning her Boston Qualifier at Houston 2023 (3:22)The emotional experience of running Boston 2024Her stunning 18-minute PR at CIM 2024 (3:04:51) and the strategic race execution that made it possibleCoaching & Community:How she became RRCA certified and started coaching runners remotelyHer role as a CIM Ambassador and what that meansLeading the Not Your Average Run Club's half marathon training program with 34 runnersThe importance of building running community in Dallas and her connections with Pegasus, White Rock Running Co-op, and Frisco Running ClubRace Strategy Insights: Kendall provides fascinating insights into her strategic approach to racing, including how she studied the CIM course, executed a nearly perfect race plan, and made a bold mid-race decision at mile 13 to test her sub-3 hour potential. She discusses the art and science of coaching, the importance of trial and error in racing, and why sometimes you need to blow up at a 5K to learn how to pace properly.Whether you're chasing your first PR, looking for coaching insights, or trying to find your running community in Dallas, Kendall's story offers valuable lessons about smart training, strategic racing, and the power of showing up consistently—even when you're shy and don't know anyone yet.Connect with Kendall Rose: https://www.runstrongwithkendall.com/

Oct 16, 202556 min

Ep 65Dustin Darakhshan: From First-Time Marathoner to 2:34 - Lessons on Coaching, Comebacks, and Consistency

In this inspiring episode, Chris sits down with Dustin Darakhshan, a Richardson-based runner and coach whose transformation story is nothing short of remarkable. After a 20-year hiatus from competitive running, Dustin went from 235 pounds and unable to run a mile in February 2020 to running a 2:34 marathon at St. George just three years later.Dustin opens up about his early running career in high school, his journey through college and young adulthood where fitness took a back seat, and the pivotal moment after his son's birth that sparked his return to running. He shares the emotional connection to his late father, a Boston Marathon finisher, and how honoring his memory drove him to chase—and ultimately achieve—his own Boston qualifying time.Throughout the conversation, Dustin discusses:His dramatic weight loss of 50+ pounds in six monthsRunning three major marathons (Boston, Chicago, and New York) in 2022The power of running with faster people and the Dallas Sloths running groupHis transition into coaching beginners and first-time marathonersDealing with an inguinal hernia injury and his comeback journeyBalancing training with a full-time job and family lifeWhy he believes in focusing on the process over the numbersThis episode is perfect for anyone looking for motivation, whether you're just starting your running journey or chasing your next PR.

Oct 10, 202537 min

Ep 64153 Days, 153 Half Marathons: Pierce Showe's Treadmill World Record and Journey to Ultra Running Glory

Pierce Showe is 24 years old and has already broken a world record, completed three 200-mile races in 90 days, and become the youngest person to finish the ultra marathon triple crown. But his journey started with struggling through a 5K in high school.In this episode, Pierce shares the Navy SEAL mental strategy that kept him from quitting at mile 60 of his first 200-miler, the brutal moment on day 98 when a camera malfunction forced him to run a full marathon in one day, and why he believes consistency is harder than extreme distance.We dive into his progression from first half marathon to 240-mile races, his approach to coaching athletes twice his age, the role of faith in his running journey, and his unconventional training philosophy that doesn't require 100-mile weeks.Whether you're training for your first 5K or contemplating an ultra, Pierce's story proves that incremental progress and mental toughness can take you further than you ever imagined.Guest: Pierce Showe - Ultra Marathon Runner, World Record Holder, Running Coach

Oct 5, 202549 min

Ep 63Sister Act: Grace and Maddie's Running Journey from Cleveland to CIM

Meet Grace Chow and Maddie Stier—two sisters whose competitive fire has fueled a lifelong running journey that spans from childhood ice hockey rinks in Cleveland to military bases across the globe. Grace, a 7-year Marine Corps veteran and mother of a 1-year-old, embodies the "do what Grace wants to do" mentality that led her to run her first marathon at just 14 years old. Maddie, a Dallas-based mother of three and Sloths running group regular, represents the Type-A planner who thrives on structure and strategic training.What drives these sisters isn't just sibling rivalry—though Grace admits she originally started running the mile in track simply because Maddie did it first. It's their shared understanding that running is both a personal challenge and a way to maintain identity through life's major transitions. Grace has carried her running through multiple military relocations, deployments to Italy, a CrossFit phase, and new motherhood, always finding ways to adapt without losing the core drive that had her logging 16-mile runs as a teenager. Maddie channels her competitive nature into meticulous training, showing up to track workouts with faster runners and hanging on "for dear life" because she knows that discomfort leads to growth.Both sisters are currently training for December's California International Marathon—each balancing motherhood with serious training goals. Grace, working with her first-ever coach, hopes to break her 2:57 PR while managing early morning runs around her 1-year-old's schedule. Maddie targets a sub-2:50 breakthrough while coordinating training around three children. Their approach couldn't be more different: Grace thrives on flying by the seat of her pants while learning structure for the first time, while Maddie lives by routine and strategic planning.Whether it's Grace running cupless marathons in Hawaii while dealing with dehydration, or Maddie maximizing every minute of training time when leaving her husband with the kids, these sisters prove that the drive to run fast comes from embracing challenge, supporting each other across distances, and never losing sight of the competitive spark that started it all in middle school track. They demonstrate that motherhood doesn't diminish athletic ambition—it sharpens the focus and makes every training opportunity count.

Sep 28, 202558 min

Ep 62Theo Murdaugh's Run It Up Revolution: Making Running Accessible to Black Communities

In this powerful conversation, Chris Detzel sits down with Theo Murdaugh, founder of Run It Up Dallas, to explore how one man's vision transformed the running landscape for Black and brown communities in Dallas. Starting with just 30-40 runners in March 2023, Theo's movement exploded to 200-300 participants after a single viral video, forcing the group to navigate rapid growth while staying true to its mission.Theo shares his journey from corporate automotive executive to nonprofit leader, explaining how traditional run clubs often felt intimidating and exclusive to newcomers. Run It Up breaks that mold with DJ music, group stretches, pace groups for every level (including walkers), and a welcoming atmosphere that feels more like a family reunion than a serious training session.But this isn't just about running. As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, Run It Up tackles cardiovascular health disparities head-on, partnering with organizations like the Black Heart Association to provide free health screenings and education. With heart disease and hypertension disproportionately affecting Black communities, Theo's work extends far beyond fitness into life-saving health advocacy.The conversation covers the practical challenges of scaling from a solo operation to a 15-person team, the importance of creating inclusive spaces in predominantly white running culture, and Theo's ambitious plans to take Run It Up to HBCU campuses nationwide. Whether you're interested in community building, health equity, or just want to understand how to make fitness accessible to everyone, this episode offers valuable insights into creating meaningful change through movement.From beginner walkers to Boston Marathon qualifiers, Run It Up proves that running can be both serious training and joyful community celebration.

Sep 21, 202550 min

Ep 61Breaking Down to Break Through: How Julie Rembold Overcame 4 Years of Health Issues to Return to Elite Running

In this compelling episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Julie Rembold for an in-depth look at one of the most remarkable running journeys you'll ever hear. Julie's story begins at age 37 when she started marathon training with virtually no running background, quickly dropping from a 3:47 debut at Houston Marathon to a 2:51 Boston qualifier in just two years.But this isn't just a story about fast times. Julie's journey takes a dramatic turn when mysterious health issues began affecting her performance and quality of life. Despite running impressive marathon times, she experienced symptoms ranging from severe fatigue and heart rate irregularities to neurological issues that made her leg feel "disconnected" during runs. For four years, she battled through these challenges while doctors struggled to provide answers.What makes Julie's story truly extraordinary is how she took her health into her own hands. Using her engineering background and relentless research, she discovered that mineral imbalances—particularly copper and iron deficiency stemming from five pregnancies and breastfeeding—were at the root of her problems. Her recovery involved switching from synthetic supplements to natural nutrition sources, ultimately healing her body completely.Julie opens up about the challenges of balancing marathon training with raising five children, the support system that made her running possible, and how her husband's leukemia diagnosis affected her first marathon. She also discusses her transition into health coaching, helping others who face similar struggles.Now at 45, Julie has returned to form with recent marathons under 3 hours and ambitious goals ahead, including a 2:45 target at the Marathon Project in December. Her story is a testament to the power of listening to your body, advocating for your health, and never giving up on your goals.This episode offers valuable insights for runners dealing with unexplained performance issues, parents trying to balance training with family life, and anyone interested in the connection between nutrition and athletic performance.

Sep 17, 20251h 0m

Ep 60Hard-Easy Every Day: How Jim Dietz Maintains 1:20 Half Marathon Times in His 60s

Meet Jim Dietz, a 65-year-old retired TI engineer who's been defying age-group expectations with sub-1:20 half marathon times and consistent sub-18-minute 5Ks. In this conversation, Jim takes us back to the golden era of corporate running in the 1980s, when Texas Instruments funded a legendary distance running program that attracted All-Americans and near-Olympic-level talent.Jim's journey spans 45 years, from watching a New York City Marathon movie in college to becoming part of TI's powerhouse team that could take over entire races at Plano Pacers. He shares the untold story of corporate America's investment in employee wellness through competitive running, complete with national meets, sponsored travel, and workplace cultures that encouraged midday training sessions.After a 12-year hiatus where he gained 60 pounds, Jim returned to running at 55 and rebuilt himself into one of the most competitive masters runners in the Dallas area. His unconventional training philosophy—running hard every other day at sub-7-minute pace for 50-65 miles per week—flies in the face of traditional coaching wisdom but continues to produce remarkable results.Beyond the times and training, this episode explores the deep community connections that have sustained Dallas running for decades, from the consistency of Plano Pacers to the enduring friendships formed at White Rock Lake. Jim reflects on retirement, staying injury-free, and why he believes someone breaking the 2:30 marathon barrier locally could inspire a wave of similar achievements.Whether you're curious about running's corporate history, seeking motivation for masters competition, or wondering how to maintain speed well into your 60s, Jim's story offers both inspiration and practical insights from someone who's truly lived the sport.

Sep 11, 202546 min

Ep 59Four 100-Milers in Ten Weeks: Alison Miller's Ultimate Test

Join host Chris Detzel for an extraordinary conversation with Alison Miller, a 46-year-old physical therapist and endurance athlete attempting one of ultra running's most grueling challenges: the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning. This rare feat requires completing four iconic 100-mile races—Western States, Vermont 100, Leadville 100, and Wasatch 100—all within a single season, totaling 400 miles in just seven weeks.Alison's athletic journey began as a scholarship soccer player at Texas A&M, transitioned through 19 Ironman competitions (including five Kona World Championships), and evolved into ultra running where she's conquered races like UTMB, Badwater, and numerous 100-milers. But the Grand Slam represents her biggest challenge yet.In this candid interview, Alison shares the highs and lows of her quest. From her worst-ever performance at Western States—where she chased cutoffs for 29.5 hours and barely finished within the 30-hour limit—to her redemptive run at Vermont 100, and the leg-crushing reality of Leadville's elevation and cutoffs. She discusses the mental fortitude required when your body is depleted, the challenge of not training between races, and what it takes to "dig deep" when everything hurts.Beyond the physical feats, Alison opens up about the logistics of crew support, the financial commitment required, the importance of having a supportive spouse, and how she balances this pursuit with her career as a physical therapist. She also shares insights from her extensive Ironman background and what drives someone to continually seek bigger challenges.With Wasatch 100 and Kona still ahead at the time of recording, this episode captures an athlete mid-journey through an almost impossible challenge. Whether you're a trail runner, road runner, or simply fascinated by human endurance, Alison's story demonstrates what's possible when determination meets preparation.Featured Topics: Grand Slam of Ultrarunning, Western States 100, Vermont 100, Leadville 100, Wasatch 100, Ironman World Championship Kona, ultra running strategy, race nutrition, crew support, endurance psychology.

Sep 7, 202536 min

Ep 58RISE RACING: Rob Goyen's Big Comeback to Texas Trail Racing

After three years away from race directing, legendary Texas trail running organizer Rob Goyen is officially back with the launch of Rise Racing Co. In this candid conversation with Chris Detzel on DFW Running Talk, Rob opens up about his journey from stepping away in 2022 to his current role as a contractor with Ultra Signup, and why the pull to return to race directing became impossible to ignore.Rob shares the personal struggles that led to his hiatus - from wanting to be present for his young daughter Ruby to dealing with "race director nightmares" that signaled his readiness to return. He discusses his transition from Ultra Signup employee to contractor, ensuring complete separation from company data and operations while maintaining his role helping race directors succeed on the platform.The conversation dives deep into Rise Racing's inaugural event: the Tex Miss Trail Race at Bucher State Park on December 13th, 2025. Featuring distances from 7 miles to 107K, this Christmas-themed trail party promises to showcase Rob's signature style - big, bold, fun events with serious buckles and a 20-hour cutoff for the ultra distance.Rob also reveals his broader vision for Rise Racing: 6-8 races annually across Texas, including returns to beloved locations like Surfside Beach and San Antonio. He emphasizes community building over pure competition, discussing plans for ambassador teams, elite support, and collaborative races with other directors. His partnership with longtime colleague Amanda and focus on welcoming the growing "lifestyle trail running" demographic signal an evolution in his approach.This episode captures both the business strategy and personal passion behind one of Texas trail running's most influential figures as he prepares to re-enter the sport that shaped his identity. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to trail running, Rob's insights into community building, race organization, and the explosive growth of running clubs offer valuable perspective on where the sport is headed.

Sep 1, 202555 min

Ep 57Mark Olateju the Picture Guy: How One Runner's Camera Became White Rock Lake's Memory Keeper

In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Mark Olateju (affectionately known as "Mark O" to those who struggle with his last name), the beloved photographer who has been documenting the Dallas running community for over two decades. Mark's journey from a reluctant 8K participant lured by free breakfast to a sub-3:09 marathoner is as unexpected as it is inspiring.Discover how a principal's promise of homemade breakfast sparked a running career that would span 640+ races. Mark opens up about his transformation from a "5K expert" who raced every weekend to a dedicated distance runner training at 3 AM with partners like Shaheen Satar. His story takes fascinating turns through trail running and 50-milers, all while maintaining his philosophy that "ignorance is bliss" when it comes to racing.But Mark's true legacy lies behind the lens. Known throughout White Rock Lake and beyond as "the picture guy," he's captured thousands of moments - from triumphant PRs to those less-flattering mid-race grimaces that runners initially complained about but now treasure as authentic memories. His slow-motion videos helped runners analyze their form, though not everyone appreciated seeing their "jiggly parts" highlighted.The conversation takes a poignant turn as Mark discusses his recent transition from competitive running following a complete knee replacement, his current focus on weightlifting and low-impact training, and his continued dedication to preserving running memories through photography. He shares the mysterious "Twilight Zone" race where runners inexplicably walked through one section of the course, memorable encounters with future Boston qualifiers, and watching his 13-year-old student casually drop a 1:27 half marathon.This episode captures the heart of running community - the bonds formed at 4 AM training runs, the evolution from beginner to mentor, and how one person's passion for capturing moments has become an invaluable gift to an entire running community.

Aug 29, 202542 min

Ep 56Why We Never Run Alone: The White Rock Running Co-op Experience

What happens when strangers become family through the simple act of putting one foot in front of the other? In this heartwarming episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with the leadership team of White Rock Running Co-op (WRRC) to explore how a free running club in Dallas has transformed lives and built an incredible community.Meet Chet, who moved to Dallas knowing no one and found his people through Wednesday night runs; Craig, who discovered that showing up consistently led to lifelong friendships and invitations to concerts; Vivian, who learned that running with others isn't just more fun—it's safer; and Andy, a late-in-life runner who went from struggling to run 100 yards to completing his six World Marathon Majors, all thanks to the support and knowledge sharing within WRRC.While we couldn't have everyone on this episode, the team also includes Nick Polito, a long-standing member who's been with the club since its infancy, and Josh Odegard, who hosts the popular Wednesday night social runs and is known for his incredible ability to connect people and build community within the group.From track workouts on Tuesdays to the famous "Hills Pay the Bills" Wednesday sessions, Saturday long runs with post-run tacos, and Sunday recovery loops around White Rock Lake, discover how this 6,000-member community accommodates everyone from casual 5K runners to Boston qualifiers and ultra-marathoners.You'll hear inspiring stories about:How the club helped Andy qualify for Boston and complete his World Marathon MajorsThe safety and camaraderie that keeps runners coming back week after weekWhy "suffering together" on the track beats suffering aloneHow showing up consistently leads to unexpected friendships and travel companionsThe welcoming culture that makes newcomers feel at home from day oneWhether you're a seasoned marathoner or someone who's never run a mile, this episode showcases the magic that happens when running becomes about more than just personal fitness—it becomes about community, friendship, and achieving dreams you never thought possible.

Aug 19, 202543 min

Ep 55From 232 Pounds to 2:46 Marathon: Greg Rankin's Incredible Transformation

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Greg Rankin, a cornerstone of the Dallas-Fort Worth running community whose journey proves it's never too late for a comeback. From earning a pink fourth-place ribbon in his first high school track meet to running a 2:46 marathon, Greg's story is one of resilience, reinvention, and the power of community.In this episode, Greg shares his three distinct "running careers" - from a college scholarship runner who walked away from the sport, to a Young Country radio team member getting back into racing, to becoming one of DFW's most respected marathon coaches. You'll hear about his dramatic transformation from 232 pounds and struggling to tie his shoes to qualifying for Boston, his harrowing experience at the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, and how he's helped dozens of runners achieve their goals.Greg opens up about the role running played during his divorce, his decade-long Boston Marathon streak, and his transition from corporate IT to coaching elite marathoners. He also discusses the evolution of the DFW running scene, where sub-3-hour marathons have become increasingly common and the community continues to push each other to new heights.Whether you're a beginner looking for inspiration or an experienced runner seeking insights from a seasoned coach, Greg's story offers valuable lessons about persistence, smart training, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right community.Topics covered:Early running career and college scholarshipThree major comebacks to the sportBoston Marathon bombing experienceCoaching philosophy and approachThe evolution of DFW's running communityTraining for sub-3-hour marathonsBalancing family and running goalsRecorded live in Dallas, Texas

Aug 11, 202529 min

Ep 54Chris & Anne Barnwell: Creating Texas Trail Community

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Chris and Anne Barnwell, the husband-and-wife team behind Blaze Trails Running, one of Texas's most beloved trail racing organizations.Discover how Chris transformed from a 245-pound tech worker to an ultra-runner whose first 100-miler was the legendary Western States, and how Anne found healing and purpose through running during her own life transitions. Their love story began at a running club, evolved over cake concerts and trail miles, and ultimately led them to create a trail running empire spanning 12 races across Texas.From taking over struggling races like Grasslands and Rockledge Rumble to building new challenges like the grueling Dana Peak course, the Barnwells share the behind-the-scenes reality of race directing—from permit struggles and weather cancellations to the incredible volunteer community that makes it all possible.Learn about their philosophy of making trail running accessible to everyone, from 5K newcomers to seasoned 100-mile veterans, and why they believe trail running creates a unique community where elite athletes and back-of-the-pack runners share the same trails and support each other's journeys.Whether you're a seasoned ultra-runner or someone curious about getting into trail running, this episode offers insights into the passion, dedication, and community spirit that drives the Texas trail running scene.Featured Races: Grasslands Trail Run, Rockledge Rumble, Dana Peak Challenge, Possum Kingdom Trail Run, and more.

Aug 5, 202545 min

Ep 5331 Marathons and Counting: Farrell Hedrick's Journey from Beginner to Coach

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Richardson native Farrell Hedrick, whose remarkable running journey embodies the power of transformation and perseverance. What started as a simple goal to lose 50 pounds after college has evolved into an incredible story of athletic achievement and career reinvention.Farrell shares his progression from struggling to run half a mile in uptown Dallas to becoming a 2:47 marathoner with 31 marathons under his belt. Along the way, he opens up about the mental challenges of his first Dallas Marathon, the breakthrough race at Woodlands Marathon that changed everything, and how accidentally coaching a friend led him to discover his true passion.In this episode, you'll discover:How Farrell went from finance and investment banking to becoming an RRCA-certified running coachHis recent career pivot to Training Program Director at Fleet Feet DallasThe exciting new performance-focused training program he's launching across the DFW metroplexTraining and nutrition insights from someone who's made every mistake and learned from itThe untapped potential he sees in Dallas's running communityWhether you're a beginner runner, seasoned marathoner, or someone contemplating a major life change, Farrell's story proves that with consistency and courage, extraordinary transformations are possible. Plus, hear about the innovative weekly track nights and community-building initiatives coming to North Texas that aim to elevate the entire Dallas running scene.

Jul 28, 202546 min

Ep 52Phillip Paris Leaves Colin Hamilton Hanging: The 4AM Houston Marathon Text

What do you get when you mix a guy who got hit by a car at 14, another who abandoned his marathon buddy via 4AM text, and enough curry paste to feed a small army? This episode of DFW Running Talk.Join Chris as he sits down with Colin Hamilton and Philip Paris, two runners whose friendship was forged through shared miles, questionable life choices, and an inexplicable love of Indian food. Colin's journey starts with getting literally run over by his brother's girlfriend (yes, really) and somehow leads to a brief but legendary ice cream empire that had people offering him business deals while he just wanted to make frozen treats for fellow runners.Philip's story is slightly less dramatic but equally relatable – from soccer player to cycling enthusiast to the guy who did Couch to 5K, immediately detrained, then somehow convinced himself a 4-mile Turkey Trot was achievable. Spoiler alert: it was.The conversation takes some serious turns as Colin opens up about mental health, panic attacks, and learning when to say no to opportunities that look good on Instagram but feel terrible in real life. Meanwhile, Philip navigates the beautiful chaos of new parenthood while trying to maintain his sub-3 marathon dreams and wondering if he'll ever sleep through the night again.From terrible marathon training advice (running every workout at race pace, anyone?) to the wind-battered disaster that was Houston 2025, these two prove that running journeys are rarely linear – and that's exactly what makes them worth sharing.Topics covered: Injury recovery, marathon training disasters, mental health in running, entrepreneurship burnout, parenting while training, finding your running community, and why your watch doesn't actually tell you how fast to run.Perfect for runners who've ever questioned their life choices at mile 20.

Jul 22, 202552 min

Ep 51Matthew Barron: From 3:25 Plateau to 2:38 Marathon Through Consistency and Community

Join host Chris Detzel as he sits down with Matt Barron, whose incredible marathon journey spans over a decade of ups, downs, and breakthrough moments. Matt shares his transformation from struggling with 3:25 marathons to running a stunning 2:38 at Houston Marathon.In this episode, you'll discover:How Matt went from "couch to Dallas Marathon" training cycles for 7 yearsThe game-changing moment when he joined the Dallas running communityWhy consistency matters more than speed in marathon trainingHow running 90 miles per week led to a 21-minute PRThe mental shift that took him from Boston qualifier to sub-2:40 runnerPractical training tips for breaking through marathon plateausMatt's story proves that marathon success isn't just about talent—it's about patience, consistency, and finding your running tribe. Whether you're chasing your first Boston qualifier or looking to break through a time plateau, this conversation offers honest insights into what it really takes to achieve your marathon goals.Perfect for: Marathon runners, Boston Marathon hopefuls, running community enthusiasts, and anyone looking for motivation to stay consistent with their training.Guest: Matt Barron - Sub-2:40 marathoner, Boston qualifier, and active member of the Dallas/Fort Worth running community.

Jul 14, 202537 min

Ep 5016 Consecutive Boston Marathons: Amanda Hicks on Sub-3:01 Training & Racing

Marathon training at 7,000 feet elevation: Amanda Hicks shares how she's run 16 consecutive Boston Marathons with a 3:01 PR while living in Flagstaff, Arizona. From Dallas Morning News reporter to elite altitude runner, discover her 70-mile weekly training routine, White Rock Lake heat training origins, nutrition strategies for long runs, and race tactics that helped her nearly break the 3-hour barrier. Plus: Sydney Marathon plans, ultramarathon insights, and advice for qualifying for Boston. Perfect for runners seeking elite marathon training tips and Boston qualification strategies.

Jul 7, 202545 min

Ep 49Rebecca Roush: From College Injuries to 2:57 Marathon - Smart Training After Motherhood

Dallas runner Rebecca Roush shares her journey from college injuries to running a 2:57 marathon as a new mom. Discover her low-mileage training approach, cross-training secrets, and how she overcame multiple stress fractures and ACL surgery to achieve consistent marathon PRs. Rebecca reveals why high-mileage training didn't work for her body, how she found her sweet spot at 50 miles per week, and the game-changing role of strength training and cycling. Plus, hear about her dramatic Boston Marathon experience, training with Dallas running groups like Train Pegasus and Completely Sloth, and managing postpartum running with baby George. Essential listening for injury-prone runners, working moms balancing training, and anyone seeking sustainable marathon success

Jul 1, 202540 min

Ep 48Athletic Trainer Turned Marathon Mom: Amy Lyles on Bone Density, Peloton & PRs

From devastating stress fractures to a 3:14 marathon PR - athletic trainer and mom Amy Lyles shares her incredible running comeback story with host Chris Detzel. After being sidelined for a full year with pubic bone injuries following her first pregnancy, Amy rebuilt from zero with just 5-minute run/walk intervals.In this episode, Chris and Amy discuss how she:Overcame multiple stress fractures and bone density issuesUsed Peloton training to stay fit during injury recoveryWorked with coach Neely Gracie to achieve a 7-minute marathon PR at HoustonBalanced motherhood with Boston Marathon qualifying goalsFound community through Ray's Track Club and DFW runnersKey topics: Marathon training for moms, stress fracture recovery, postpartum running challenges, athletic trainer insights, Peloton cross-training, bone density issues in female athletes, Ray's Track Club, Houston Marathon, Boston qualifying times.Perfect for runners dealing with injury setbacks, new moms returning to running, or anyone seeking inspiration for their comeback journey. Amy's story proves that with patience, proper coaching, and determination, you can come back stronger than ever.Guest: Amy Lyles, Athletic Trainer at Plano West High SchoolHost: Chris Detzel Part of DFW Running Talk - featuring Dallas-Fort Worth running community stories.

Jun 26, 202559 min

Ep 47Matt Campbell's Race Day Formula: Control, Flow, and Commitment

In this compelling follow-up episode, Matt Campbell returns to share his evolved approach to racing and the mindset shifts that have transformed his competitive strategy. From his dominant performance at the Velvet Hammer 5K to his ambitious sub-2:30 marathon goals, Matt breaks down how he's learned to race the competition rather than chase times.Matt opens up about his tactical approach to the Velvet Hammer 5K, where he brought his Completely Sloth teammates and executed a perfectly planned race strategy—breaking the 5K into kilometers with specific mantras for each segment. He reveals how letting go of time fixation and focusing on execution has actually made him faster and more confident on race day.Beyond racing tactics, Matt dives deep into the challenge of balancing elite-level training with family life and a demanding career. He discusses his "three pillars" philosophy—family, work, and running—and how he's learned to periodize his life while keeping family as the top priority. From skipping Boston Marathon to be present for his family to the reality of 5 AM training sessions, Matt shares honest insights about making sacrifices and finding sustainable balance.The conversation also covers the often-overlooked importance of strength training for runners, injury prevention through experience, and the mental game that separates good runners from great ones. Matt candidly discusses his upcoming California International Marathon goal, his transition into speed season, and his growing role as both a coach and community builder in the DFW running scene.Whether you're chasing PRs or simply trying to fit running into a busy life, Matt's perspective on racing smart, training purposefully, and maintaining balance offers valuable lessons for runners at every level.Topics Covered:Race strategy and execution over time goalsBalancing elite training with family and careerThe importance of strength training for runnersBuilding and leading running communitiesMental approaches to competition and goal-settingUpcoming race plans and sub-2:30 marathon goals

Jun 21, 202545 min

Ep 46Michael Mazzara: CEO of Rogue Expeditions on Running Travel

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Michael Mazzara, CEO of Rogue Expeditions, who's revolutionizing how runners think about their sport. After signing up for 20 marathons and only finishing 3 due to constant injuries, Michael discovered there's more to running than chasing PRs and collecting race medals.From his early days attempting untrained half marathons in Brooklyn to building a successful running travel company in Austin, Michael shares his journey of falling out of love with racing and into love with adventure. He explains why he believes the running community has become too focused on competition and how Rogue Expeditions offers an alternative—immersive cultural travel experiences for runners who want to explore the world's most beautiful trails without the pressure of race day.In this episode, you'll discover:Why most running opportunities feel "too one-dimensional"The difference between running a city during a race vs. truly experiencing itHow running travel compares to cycling tours and yoga retreatsWhat it's like to run through Morocco's Atlas Mountains, Iceland's glaciers, and Italy's DolomitesWhy the "stop racing, start exploring" philosophy resonates with so many runnersHow Rogue Expeditions creates adventures for all fitness levels with expert guidesWhether you're burned out on racing, curious about destination running, or simply love hearing about epic adventures, this conversation will challenge how you think about your running journey. Michael's passion for creating meaningful experiences over competitive achievements offers a refreshing perspective on what it means to be a runner.

Jun 17, 202541 min

Ep 45First Marathon, Sub-3:10 Finish: How Ski Bum Kevin Hebert Shocked Everyone (Including Himself)

What happens when a former ski bum who used to hide in pickup trucks to avoid running decides to chase a Boston qualifier in his very first marathon? You get one of the most inspiring transformation stories we've ever featured on DFW Running Talk.Host Chris Detzel interviews Kevin Hebert, a 46-year-old who went from running just twice a week with Dallas Running Club to breaking 3:10 in his marathon debut. In this captivating conversation, Kevin shares his incredible journey from someone who "would never run a marathon" to crossing the finish line at California International Marathon in a stunning 3:08:58.In this episode, you'll discover:How Kevin transformed from a casual half-marathoner to a sub-3:10 machine in just one training cycleThe mindset shift that changed everything (hint: it involved quitting coffee and alcohol)Why he hired a coach for his first marathon and how it paid offThe exact training approach that took him from 35 miles per week to 70 miles at peakHis emotional finish line moment and immediate plans for marathon #2The power of running with experienced groups like White Rock Running Co-opWhether you're a weekend warrior wondering what's possible or a seasoned runner looking for motivation, Kevin's story proves that with the right focus, coaching, and community, extraordinary breakthroughs can happen faster than you think.This isn't just another running story – it's proof that sometimes the biggest transformations come from the most unexpected places.

Jun 12, 202550 min

Ep 44The Luke's Locker Legend: 30 Years of Fitting Shoes and Why Duncan Cragg Stopped Racing to Find His True Running Purpose

In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Duncan Cragg, the legendary store manager at Luke's Locker and a cornerstone of the Dallas-Fort Worth running community for over three decades.Duncan's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Growing up in apartheid-era South Africa, he discovered his passion for distance running in elementary school when he couldn't make the track team as a sprinter. This setback became the catalyst for an incredible journey that would take him from the high altitude training grounds of South Africa to SMU's track team as a steeplechase specialist.What makes this episode special:An inspiring immigration story: How running became Duncan's pathway from South Africa to America, including his recruitment to SMU during the final year of apartheidBreaking barriers through sport: Duncan's powerful account of training with athletes across racial lines before it was legal, and how this integrated group elevated everyone's performance to world-class levelsFrom competitor to community builder: Why Duncan stepped away from racing marathons to focus on the "mindful journey" of running and helping others discover their own relationship with the sport30 years at Luke's Locker: Behind-the-scenes insights into the specialty running industry, shoe technology evolution, and how the Dallas running boom has transformed over the decadesRevolutionary family running program: Duncan's innovative approach to bringing parents and kids together through his unique group at White Rock Lake's Norbuck ParkKey topics explored:The philosophy of distance running vs. sprint mentalityHow modern shoe technology (carbon plates, super shoes) is changing the sport - for better and worseThe explosion of Dallas running culture and diverse running communitiesCreating inclusive spaces where families can exercise togetherThe difference between performance-driven and journey-focused runningDuncan's perspective on running transcends times and technology. He advocates for "parkour-style" natural movement, mindful running without structured intervals, and staying connected to the pure joy of the sport. His family running group has become a safe haven for kids intimidated by traditional track teams and a bridge for parents wanting to share the running experience with their children.Whether you're a seasoned runner curious about the evolution of the sport, a parent looking to get active with your kids, or someone interested in how running can build community across cultural and generational divides, this episode offers profound insights and inspiration.Perfect for listeners who enjoy:Stories of athletic achievement and personal growthImmigration and cultural integration narrativesCommunity building and youth developmentRunning industry insights and shoe technology discussionsPhilosophy of sport and mindful movementDon't miss Duncan's take on why he's never run past a half marathon, his thoughts on the "Labrador with a tennis ball" mentality of race-focused runners, and how a chance meeting in a South African running store led to a 30-year career helping Dallas runners find their perfect fit.

Jun 8, 202537 min

Ep 43From 4:28 to 2:52: Traci Duty's 20-Year Marathon Journey

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Traci Duty, whose 23-year running journey proves that breakthrough performances can happen at any age. From her first cotton-clad marathon disaster in college (4:28) to becoming a sub-3:00 marathoner at 45 (2:52), Traci's story is a masterclass in persistence, community, and smart training.In this episode, Traci shares:Her early days as a high school sprinter who "hated" cross countryThe friends who kept convincing her to run "just one more marathon"How joining the Dallas Running Club transformed her training approachThe power of running with faster groups (hello, Sloths!) and believing in bigger goalsHer breakthrough season: four consecutive PR half marathons leading to her first sub-3:00 marathonTraining insights including strength work, nutrition, and race strategy "chunking"The reality of running injuries and her current battle with osteoarthritis in both kneesWhat makes Traci's story particularly compelling is her late-career speed development. At an age when many runners are slowing down, she was running personal bests and keeping pace with athletes 10+ years younger. Her journey highlights the importance of community, proper training, and never giving up on your potential.Whether you're chasing your first marathon PR or wondering if your fastest days are behind you, Traci's story will remind you that with the right mindset, training partners, and approach, breakthrough performances are possible at any stage of your running journey.Key Takeaways: The power of training groups, importance of strength training and nutrition, race strategy tips, and maintaining a positive mindset through injury setbacks.

Jun 1, 202557 min

Ep 42Ray Nicholas: Building Running Community in North Dallas

Join Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Ray Nicholas, the founder of RTC (Ray's Track Club) and one of DFW's most influential runners. Ray shares his incredible three-chapter running journey - from high school cross country star running 15:32 for 5K in California, through a 15-year hiatus filled with basketball, weightlifting, and other sports, to his remarkable return to running that culminated in a stunning 2:48 marathon PR.Discover how Ray went from a casual 3:42 first marathon to breaking the 3-hour barrier and eventually running 2:48 at Houston Marathon - a massive 15-minute personal record achieved through what he calls his best training block ever. Ray reveals the secrets behind that breakthrough performance, including training alongside elite DFW athletes like Melanie Lawson, Jennifer Pope, and Brent Woodle.Learn about the founding of RTC (Ray's Track Club), born from a simple need for quality training partners in North Dallas. What started as Ray organizing workouts for a small group has grown into a 60-member community that's helping elevate the entire DFW running scene. Ray discusses how surrounding yourself with faster runners pushes everyone to new levels - a philosophy that's helped create the incredible depth of sub-3:00 marathoners in Dallas-Fort Worth.The conversation also covers Ray's Boston Marathon experiences, his thoughts on modern shoe technology's impact on performance and recovery, and his upcoming goal of chasing a 2:43 marathon. Plus, hear about his awkward first meeting with Chris at the airport before Boston 2019, complete with lacrosse ball rolling on the terminal floor.Whether you're chasing your first Boston qualifier or dreaming of going sub-3, Ray's story proves that with the right training partners, dedication, and community support, remarkable breakthroughs are possible at any stage of your running journey.Key Topics: Marathon training, Boston Marathon, running community, DFW running scene, personal records, training groups, sub-3 hour marathons, shoe technology, Houston Marathon

May 26, 202549 min

Ep 41When Runners Get Hurt: Travis Dowd on Tibial Stress Reactions and Cross-Training

In this compelling follow-up episode, Chris Detzel welcomes back Travis Dowd, the talented runner who made headlines by winning his very first marathon at the Dallas Marathon. But this time, Travis shares a different side of the running experience - dealing with injury and the long road back to racing.Fresh off his breakthrough marathon victory, Travis found himself sidelined with a tibial stress reaction after pushing his recovery too hard too soon. In this honest and insightful conversation, he opens up about the mental and physical challenges of being injured, the mistakes he made during his comeback attempt, and the valuable lessons he's learning about listening to his body.Travis discusses his creative approach to maintaining fitness through cross-training (following the "10 minutes of biking equals 1 mile of running" rule), the difficult decision to pull out of Grandma's Marathon, and how he's setting his sights on Houston 2026 with Olympic Trial aspirations. As a medical student balancing intense academics with elite running goals, Travis offers a unique perspective on how his studies actually help prevent overtraining and provide mental balance.From the realities of post-marathon recovery to finding the right balance between competition and health, this episode provides valuable insights for runners of all levels. Whether you're dealing with your own injury setback or simply curious about what it takes to compete at the highest levels while pursuing a demanding career, Travis's story offers both practical advice and inspiration.Plus, hear about the incredible Dallas-Fort Worth running community and why this region continues to attract and develop world-class talent.Check out the first episode here Med Student to Marathon Victor: Travis Dowd's Journey to 2024 Dallas Marathon Glory

May 23, 202531 min

Ep 40Elite Marathon Strategies: How Four Top DFW Runners Approached Boston and London 2025 under 2:38

This engaging episode of DFW Running Talk features host Chris Detzel interviewing four exceptional marathon runners who recently competed in the Boston and London Marathons. The conversation provides a fascinating glimpse into the world of elite marathon running from local DFW athletes.Aaron Pearson discusses his Boston Marathon PR of 2:37:13, sharing insights about his race strategy and nutrition miscalculations that impacted his performance. Rena Elmer, a 42-year-old mother of seven, reveals her impressive Boston Marathon journey where she finished 43rd overall after entering ranked 50th. Mimi Smith details her Boston experience, where she ran 2:34:04 and placed 26th overall, achieving a PR on the challenging course. Jennifer Pope rounds out the group with her London Marathon accomplishment, running a 2:36:11 PR in what she described as the "rowdiest" marathon atmosphere she's experienced.The runners engage in thoughtful discussion about several key marathon topics, including:Race preparation strategies and how they manage travel, rest, and expo experiences before major marathonsThe balance between racing competitively versus pursuing specific time goalsNutrition strategies and lessons learned during marathon performancesThe experience of running with or without pacers during elite marathon competitionsTheir future racing plans, including potential Olympic Trials aspirationsThe episode offers valuable insights for runners of all levels while showcasing the impressive achievements of these local elite athletes. As Chris notes in his closing comments, the podcast celebrates both the athletic accomplishments and the dedication these runners bring to their craft.

May 16, 202552 min

Ep 39Beyond the Unicorn: DFW's Fastest Female Marathoners Take on Boston

In this inspiring episode, host Chris Detzel brings together five remarkable women runners from the Dallas-Fort Worth area who recently completed the 2025 Boston Marathon. Julie Rembold (2:56), Liz Northern (sub-3:00), Rebecca Roush (3:11), Maddie Stier (2:55), and Jill Wolf (2:54) share their personal journeys to Boston and experiences on the iconic course.The conversation covers their diverse training approaches—from high-mileage weeks (Jill's 100-mile peak) to quality-focused training (Liz's focus with young children)—and explores how these dedicated runners balance serious marathon training with family life. Rebecca candidly discusses her postpartum comeback with just 34 days of training, while Julie shares how the right nutrition strategy transformed her race experience.The women recount memorable moments: Liz high-fiving spectators with a permanent smile, Maddie losing her phone at mile three (and amazingly getting it back!), Julie navigating water stations, and Rebecca balancing breastfeeding with marathon logistics. They also share practical Boston-specific advice about everything from booking hotels early to managing the deceptive course profile.Whether you're a Boston qualifier yourself, aspiring to get there, or simply enjoy hearing authentic stories from passionate runners, this episode captures the electric atmosphere, supportive community, and magical experience that makes the Boston Marathon truly special.Website: https://dfwrunningtalk.com/ Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0TrXg8x... Subscribe to the Substack Newsletter: https://dfwrunningtalk.substack.com/ Instagram: / dfwrunningtalk

May 9, 20251h 8m

Ep 38Marathon Dad: How Jonathan Brower Finds Speed Between 3:50 AM Runs and Bedtime Stories

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Jonathan Brower, a structural engineer and accomplished runner who's known for casually passing other racers while pushing a stroller. The conversation begins with Chris recounting how Jonathan once passed him during a 5K at White Rock while pushing his baby in a stroller and discussing the Stars game.Jonathan shares his unique running journey, which began not as a passion but as training for tennis. After getting burned out on tennis during grad school in 2012, he discovered running as a standalone activity and quickly found success, running his first marathon in Chicago with an impressive 3:06 despite minimal structured training.The conversation traces Jonathan's growth as a runner: joining Dallas Running Club, running New York Marathon, and eventually achieving a breakthrough 2:58 in Portland after following a more structured training approach. His running adventures include a rainy Boston Marathon experience where he laughed at the absurdity of the terrible conditions, and a triumphant return to New York in 2023 where he PR'd with a 2:57 despite balancing training with raising two young children.Jonathan discusses his data-driven coaching philosophy and how becoming a parent transformed his approach to training - emphasizing consistency over perfection and the importance of "getting comfortable being uncomfortable." The episode concludes with Jonathan's involvement in the Form Follows Fitness 5K, which perfectly combines his love of architecture and running, and his role in encouraging colleagues to participate in the event.

May 5, 202547 min

Ep 37Breaking Barriers: Jill Wolf's Journey from 3:44 to Sub-2:50 Marathons

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Jill Wolf, an accomplished marathon runner who shares her remarkable journey from high school cross country to becoming the 2023 Dallas Marathon champion. Jill candidly discusses her evolution as a runner - from early talent in high school to completely giving up running in college, before rediscovering her passion as an adult. Listeners will hear about her progression from a 1:56 half marathon to breaking the elite sub-2:50 marathon barrier, with all the triumphs and setbacks along the way. Jill offers valuable insights on marathon strategy, nutrition lessons learned the hard way, and the importance of smart racing over blindly chasing pace goals.Her story of winning the Dallas Marathon on her home course provides an inspiring conclusion to a conversation filled with practical wisdom for runners of all levels. Subscribe: NewsletterYouTube Apple Podcast Spotify Instagram

May 1, 20251h 10m

Ep 36From Struggling to Soaring: Ariana Allen's 4:40 to Sub-3 Marathon Revolution

Join host Chris Detzel as he interviews Ariana Allen, a dedicated nurse who transformed from a casual runner into an elite sub-3 hour marathoner. This inspiring conversation tracks Ariana's remarkable journey from her first marathon finish of 4:40 to breaking the coveted 3-hour barrier with a 2:59 flat. Discover how structured coaching, science-based nutrition, and unwavering determination helped Ariana unlock her potential while balancing a demanding healthcare career. From running through the COVID-19 pandemic as a frontline worker to competing in world majors like Boston, Chicago, and Berlin, Ariana shares the practical lessons, training adjustments, and mindset shifts that fueled her extraordinary progression. This episode offers valuable insights for runners of all levels looking to shatter their own limits.

Apr 27, 20251h 0m

Ep 35Chasing the Dream: How Garrett Mayeaux is Building His Professional Triathlon Career

In this episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Garrett Mayeaux, an elite triathlete pursuing a professional career. Garrett shares his journey from amateur to pro, discussing how he balances his chiropractic practice with training, racing, and coaching. He opens up about the financial challenges of professional triathlon, including expensive equipment, race fees, and travel costs, while explaining how he's pieced together income from part-time work, coaching, and sponsorships. Garrett also details his racing schedule, performance goals, and how a conversation with triathlon legend Greg Bennett convinced him to pursue the sport professionally despite having an established career. Throughout the conversation, Garrett provides fascinating insights into the world of professional triathlon training, the competitive landscape, and his connection to the vibrant DFW running community.

Apr 24, 202544 min

Ep 342:51 Marathon and 2 Kids: Melanie Lassen's Speedy Motherhood Adventure

In this captivating episode, we sit down with elite runner Melanie Lassen who shares her remarkable journey of balancing competitive marathon running with motherhood. From her impressive 2:51 Boston Marathon finish to navigating middle-of-the-night feedings with her non-sleeping 9-month-old, Melanie opens up about the realities of pursuing athletic excellence while raising two young children. She takes us through her 20-year running career, from college competition to winning multiple marathons, including her dramatic last-chance Boston qualifier that involved a canceled race, a rental car, and pumping in a race director's truck. Melanie candidly discusses running through pregnancy, postpartum comebacks, and how motherhood has shifted her perspective on training and performance. Whether she's fitting in runs after daycare drop-off or dreaming of breaking 2:50, her story demonstrates that elite performance and parenthood can coexist—even when sleep doesn't. This episode offers inspiration for competitive mother-runners and practical insights on maintaining high-level fitness during life's most demanding seasons.

Apr 16, 202549 min

Ep 3320 Marathons, 3 Kids, and Boston Dreams: The Maddie Stier Story

In this inspiring episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Maddie Stier, a remarkable marathon runner who balances elite performance with motherhood. From qualifying for Boston at her very first marathon to navigating pregnancy with twins, Maddie shares her extraordinary journey of running 20 marathons while raising three children under two.Discover how Maddie transitioned from casual runner to 2:50 marathoner after joining Dallas's running community, the importance of training partners who pushed her limits, and her creative strategies for fitting in high-mileage weeks around early morning family life. Maddie offers candid insights about maintaining her running passion through pregnancy, postpartum recovery, and the logistical challenges of elite training as a busy mom.Whether you're a parent looking to maintain fitness, a competitive runner seeking inspiration, or simply love stories of perseverance, Maddie's journey from accidental Boston qualifier to motherhood marathon champion will motivate runners of all levels. Don't miss her preparation strategies for Boston 2025 and her "Summer of Strength" plans beyond!

Apr 11, 202543 min

Ep 32Marathon Mindset with Lea Ivy: Lessons from Twelve Bostons and Beyond

In this special episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews his wife and running extraordinaire, Lea Ivy. With no formal running background, Lea transformed herself from a recreational college jogger into a Boston Marathon qualifying machine, completing the prestigious race for 11 consecutive years with a 12th on the horizon. Subscribe to our Substack newsletter Lea shares her remarkable evolution from running her first half marathon on a whim to achieving a 3:14 marathon PR at age 45. Listen as she reveals the methodical approach that's kept her injury-free for over a decade, her philosophy of training by effort rather than pace, and how working with sports nutrition experts revolutionized her performance.This conversation goes beyond race accomplishments to explore the mental resilience required for ultra-marathons, the challenges of recent injuries, and how their shared adventures—including traversing the Swiss Alps—have strengthened their bond as a couple. Whether you're a seasoned marathoner or just beginning your running journey, Lea's emphasis on consistency over talent offers invaluable wisdom for runners at every level.Join us for an intimate look at what it takes to sustain excellence in running and in life, told through the journey of one of Dallas's most inspiring yet humble marathon mavens.

Apr 6, 202544 min

Ep 31Michael Jackson's Last Day Was Andy's First: A Six Star Marathon Journey

In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Andy Wheatcroft, an inspiring 'mature runner' who completed all six World Marathon Majors. Andy's extraordinary transformation began 14 years ago in the UK when, 50 pounds overweight with a goatee that failed to hide his double chin, he could barely run 100 feet without vomiting. Motivated by his father's sudden death from a heart attack at 60 and his son's classmate battling brain cancer, Andy embarked on a journey that would change his life forever.The interview captures the moment Andy became a 'real runner' – coincidentally the same day Michael Jackson died, when local teenagers shouted the news as he completed his first non-stop 2.1-mile run. From this humble beginning, Andy methodically tackled increasingly challenging distances, raising significant funds for charities along the way, including $20,000 for his first London Marathon.Listeners will hear detailed accounts of each major marathon – from the emotional significance of Boston, which took him exactly 10 years to qualify for, to his spectacular fall and recovery during Tokyo. Andy shares his evolution as a runner, from struggling with basic training principles to eventually incorporating 70-mile weeks and structured long runs with strategic negative loading.The conversation explores Andy's engineering mindset and how it applies to marathon strategy, including his unconventional A-B-C goal approach where his fastest goal was actually 'Plan C' – a mental trick that helped him achieve his Boston Qualifying time. He also reveals the emotional moments that defined his races, like placing a silk lily at the Boston bombing memorial and bursting into tears at the sight of Boylston Street.Throughout the episode, Andy emphasizes that while the medals and accomplishments are rewarding, the true value lies in the running community – particularly Dallas's vibrant running scene and the incredible friendships formed along the way. From track workouts at 6 AM to margaritas after long runs, Andy's story demonstrates how running transcends physical fitness to become a lifestyle built around connection, challenge, and giving back through pacing opportunities.Now semi-retired and contemplating new challenges like the emerging marathon majors in Sydney and Cape Town, Andy Wheatcroft's journey exemplifies how running can completely transform a life, one mile at a time.

Apr 1, 202547 min

Ep 30Zero to Boston in 8 Months: The Insane Running Journey of Dr. Matt Campbell

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Dr. Matt Campbell, a pediatric oncologist who transformed from an out-of-shape medical fellow to a sub-2:31 marathoner and running coach. Matt shares his remarkable journey from struggling to run two miles to qualifying for Boston Marathon in his second race ever.The conversation explores how Matt found his running community with the "Sloths" - a semi-formal running collective in Dallas that balances serious training with a fun, supportive atmosphere. Matt candidly discusses his marathon experiences, including a humbling Boston debut, his coaching philosophy, and his current goal of breaking the 2:30 barrier.What makes this episode particularly compelling is Matt's authentic perspective on running as something that should "restore energy" to your life, his insights on the mental game of marathon racing, and his vision for elevating Dallas's running scene by creating a community where runners inspire each other to reach new heights. Both recreational runners and serious marathoners will find valuable takeaways from Matt's thoughtful approach to training, racing, and building running communities.

Mar 26, 202533 min

Ep 29From Spain to Dallas: Carlos Para's International Running Adventures

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Carlos Para, a dentist from Spain who has built an impressive running career after moving to Dallas. Carlos shares his journey from playing field hockey in Spain to becoming a competitive marathoner who has completed seven marathons in a single year, with a personal best of 2:37 at the St. George Marathon.Carlos discusses how he discovered his passion for running during the COVID-19 pandemic, his remarkably fast progression from novice to Boston qualifier in his first marathon (finishing in 2:55), and his strategic approach to training. The conversation covers Carlos's experiences with both road marathons and ultratrail races, including his participation in prestigious UTMB events as he pursues qualification for Western States.Throughout the episode, Carlos offers insights about balancing professional life with serious running, training in Dallas's challenging climate, unique training camps he creates in mountainous regions, and how he combines his love of travel with running adventures across the globe. A fascinating look at the journey of a dedicated runner who has found ways to pursue excellence despite the limitations of training in a flat terrain city.

Mar 22, 202539 min

Ep 28The Sub-2:40 Club: DFW's Fastest Marathoners Talk Boston & London

Boston & London Marathon Prep with DFW's Elite RunnersJoin host Chris Detzel for an insightful roundtable with six elite DFW-area runners as they prepare for the prestigious Boston and London Marathons. This episode features Brent Woodall, Matt Barron, Aaron Pearson, Eric Bretl, Jennifer Pope, and Mimi Smith - collectively known as "The Sloths" - who share their impressive qualifying times, ambitious race goals, and detailed training strategies.Listen as these accomplished athletes discuss their personalized training approaches, with weekly mileage ranging from 75-110 miles, and their perspectives on strength training, nutrition, and race-day fueling. The group dives into Boston Marathon course specifics, including the infamous Heartbreak Hill, and offers practical advice for handling everything from mid-race hydration to the unique challenges of Boston's late-morning start time.Whether you're aiming for a Boston Qualifier or simply curious about high-performance marathon training, this episode provides valuable insights from runners targeting impressive sub-2:40 finish times while balancing careers, families, and everyday life. Don't miss their candid reflections on community support, finding sustainable training approaches, and their post-marathon plans.

Mar 16, 202548 min

Ep 27Building a Running Community: Alfonzo Gonzalez and the Train Pegasus Journey

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Alfonzo Gonzalez, the founder and coach of Train Pegasus, one of the Dallas-Fort Worth area's most respected running groups.Alfonzo's Running JourneyAlfonzo shares his humble beginnings in running, starting in 2009 when a coworker invited him to join a Luke's Locker social run. Despite struggling to complete the six-mile route, Alfonso persisted and gradually built his endurance. With a background in boxing, football, and tennis, Alfonso had some athletic foundation but found the transition to distance running challenging.His first marathon (Dallas Marathon in 2009/2010) finished just under four hours, and Alfonzo candidly recalls sitting against a wall afterward, convinced it would be his last. However, encouragement from friends led him to continue, eventually transforming into an accomplished marathoner with a personal best of 2:42:40 at CIM (California International Marathon).The Birth of Train PegasusTrain Pegasus originated in 2019 when Alfonzo, who was already coaching individual runners, recognized the need for a group where his athletes could train together. What began as a small collection of runners has grown into a vibrant community that meets multiple times per week.Alfonzo deliberately named the group "Train Pegasus" rather than using his own name because he wanted it to feel like a community rather than just his personal coaching business. The group has expanded through word-of-mouth and referrals, with no formal marketing required.Coaching PhilosophyAlfonzo coaches approximately 75 active runners (and has coached over 200 total), from local Dallas runners to athletes in Canada and Mexico. His coaching philosophy centers on the "80/20 rule" - 80% easy running and 20% hard efforts. He emphasizes recovery and isn't afraid to run at slower paces (10:30-12:00 minute miles) during recovery days.He works with runners of all levels, from those targeting one-mile improvements to ultramarathoners, and has even coached high school runners looking to break five minutes in the mile. Alfonzo takes pride in tailoring his approach to each athlete's needs and isn't afraid to refer runners to other coaches when he isn't the right fit.Community BuildingWhat stands out most about Alfonso's approach is his commitment to inclusivity. While Train Pegasus initially gained a reputation for fast runners, Alfonzo has deliberately created multiple weekly runs at various paces:Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday runs are more social and relaxed (9:30-10:30 pace)Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday workouts are for "clocking in" (more serious training)Alfonzo personally ensures that newcomers feel welcome, often sacrificing his own workout to run with someone new to make sure they don't get lost. The group has grown from 4-10 people on social run days to 30+ participants, with workout days sometimes drawing 30-40 runners or more when multiple running clubs join together.Balancing Life and RunningThroughout the conversation, Alfonzo discusses how he balances his full-time career at AT&T (where he's worked for 20+ years as an account manager) with his coaching responsibilities, which he describes as "a full-time job as well." He mentions that someday he might consider coaching full-time to provide more one-on-one training sessions.Marathon AccomplishmentsAlfonzo has completed 33 marathons, including New York as part of his journey toward completing all six World Marathon Majors (with Berlin scheduled next and hopes for London and Tokyo in the future). He typically focuses on one serious marathon effort per year, with his consistent performance ranging from 2:43 to 2:45.He also frequently serves as a pacer for both races and his own athletes, including an upcoming 3-hour pacing duty at California International Marathon (Cowtown), which he has paced for the past 4-5 years.Advice for CoachesNear the end of the interview, Alfonzo shares wisdom for aspiring running coaches, emphasizing that success doesn't happen overnight. He advises new coaches not to take it personally when runners move to different coaches, comparing it to business relationships that naturally evolve over time.Throughout the conversation, Alfonzo's passion for the running community shines through, as does his genuine desire to help runners of all abilities improve and enjoy the sport for the long term.

Mar 12, 202529 min