Episode 91: Check the police blotter in Mountain View

<p><a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gazeronly/29522593123/in/photolist-dDqXxG-qyNTQM-c81ocL-4AD3DQ-c81p1U-c81kUj-ddZgH5-c81hoA-9vL5A3-c81pPb-c81niC-c81iLo-c81eUo-c81jAC-c81k5G-c7VYkJ-c81hZb-7r2rLZ-c81gzC-c7Xqej-c7YPYm-5LvzMm-c7W3kL-c81mBJ-c7URmS-onn6k2-qKWh2M-KHFSG3-LxqMw9-LwVGRA-rFQ8ST-c7USzm-cPHDLw-c81fBE-89thdX-5W2nsd-5W2iJd-5V5oni-LYP1og-Hg5zB9-LbSbLs" title="i&#x27;m good with the blue, scott richard"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5816/29522593123_f0ab6cd864_z.jpg" width="640" height="619" alt="i&#x27;m good with the blue, scott richard"></a></p> <p>Chris and Ed do an extremely rare daytime recording of the show on the American Memorial Day holiday. But why is a Canadian not working on an American Holiday? You&rsquo;ll have to tune in to find out why along with some thoughts on mentoring and why the current crop of browser-centric testing tools are completely shit.</p> <p>Thanks to Ben Ramsey for his poetry choice and Chance Garcia for allowing us to bring another health issue to people&rsquo;s attention.</p> <h2>Do these things!</h2> <ul> <li>Support us via our <a href="https://patreon.com/devhell">Patreon</a></li> <li>Buy stickers at <a href="http://devhell.info/shop">devhell.info/shop</a></li> <li>Follow us on <strong>Twitter</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/dev_hell">here</a></li> <li><strong>Rate us</strong> on iTunes <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/dev-hell/id489840699">here</a></li> </ul> <h2>Listen</h2> <iframe frameborder='0' height='36px' scrolling='no' seamless src='https://simplecast.com/e/70784?style=dark' width='100%'></iframe> <p><a href="http://audio.simplecast.com/70784.mp3" rel="enclosure">Download now (MP3)</a></p> <h1>Links and Notes</h1> <ul> <li>Please support Ed&rsquo;s efforts to make <a href="https://osmihelp.org">OSMI</a> his main gig!</li> <li>Both Chris and Ed will be at <a href="https://cakefest.org">CakeFest 2017</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.seleniumhq.org/projects/webdriver/">WebDriver</a> is an API in heavy use at Mozilla (and elsewhere) for doing browser automation work</li> <li>Ed talked about a testing tool called <a href="http://fakeapp.com">Fake</a> from his webOS development days that promoted a very different testing paradigm</li> <li>Chris has done browser automation in PHP using <a href="http://docs.behat.org/en/latest/">Behat</a>, <a href="http://mink.behat.org/en/latest/">Mink</a> and a lot of swearing</li> <li>Most current browser-centric UI testing tools are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine">Rube Goldberg machines</a></li> <li>Great blog post from the ClojureScript community showing off <a href="https://github.com/omcljs/om/wiki/Applying-Property-Based-Testing-to-User-Interfaces">property-based testing and immutibility</a></li> <li>Also some great work being done in PHPUnit with <a href="https://github.com/madewithlove/phpunit-snapshots">snapshot testing</a></li> </ul>