Decoder with Nilay Patel
A business show about big ideas — and other problems.
The Verge · Vox Media Podcast Network
Show overview
Decoder with Nilay Patel has been publishing since 2015, and across the 11 years since has built a catalogue of 940 episodes, alongside 2 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 890 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a several-times-a-week cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 49 min and 1h 6m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed yesterday, with 42 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2019, with 144 episodes published. Published by Vox Media Podcast Network.
From the publisher
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
Latest Episodes
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How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the AI era
Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing
Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold BuzzFeed
How companies weaponize the terms of service against you
Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them
Rewind: How AI is fueling an existential crisis in education
Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI
How to win — or lose — Decoder
That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks
THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION
Canva's CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" relationship with the truth
Can Puck’s CEO reinvent the news business for the influencer age?
The AI industry's existential race for profits
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?
Today, we’re talking about the landmark social media addiction trials that just resulted in two major verdicts against Big Tech — one in California against Meta and Google, and another in New Mexico against just Meta. These are complicated cases with some huge repercussions for both how these platforms work and the very nature of speech in America. So we’ve brought on two heavy hitters: my friend Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and co-host of Hard Fork, as well as Verge senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, who’s been covering these trials since the beginning. Links: Meta & YouTube found negligent in social media addiction trial | The Verge Meta misled users about its products’ safety, jury decides | The Verge Meta’s legal defeat: a victory for kids, or a loss for everyone | The Verge Can you have child safety and Section 230, too? | Platformer The terrible cost of infinite scroll | The New York Times I watched grieving parents stare down Zuckerberg in court | The Verge Section 230 turns 30 as it faces its biggest tests yet | The Verge Congress considers blowing up internet law | The Verge Sen. Rob Wyden: “Why the internet still needs Section 230” | The Verge How America turned against the First Amendment | The Verge Subscribe to The Verge to access the ad-free version of Decoder! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Okta's CEO is betting big on AI agent identity
My guest today is Okta CEO Todd McKinnon. Okta is a platform that big companies use to manage security and identity across all the many apps and platforms their employees use. Most of us run into it as login management at work. SaaS companies like Okta are under a lot of pressure in the age of AI, which Todd even said on an earnings call he's "paranoid" about. But you'll also hear Todd say that for Okta specifically, there's also a world of opportunity as the very concept of a digital "identity" has to expand into things that aren't really people. Links: CEO ‘paranoid’ as vibe coders stir SaaSpocalypse fears | The Register $300B evaporated. The SaaSpocalypse has begun | Forbes How AI assistants are moving the security goalposts | Krebs on Security What everyone’s missing about AI and development | CRN Agents run amok: Identity lessons from Moltbook’s experiment | Okta Breakup of IBM is Antitrust goal (1972) | New York Times Subscribe to The Verge to access the ad-free version of Decoder! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices