Debunking Economics - the podcast

The US dollar is creating real problems right now. Speculators are buying it up as US Treasuries (bonds) offer higher yields at lower prices than other forms of sovereign debt. US shares are also proving popular as talk of a US soft landing intensifies, suggesting they’ll be more scope for company growth in the US than just about anywhere else. All of that is adding to the strength in the US dollar, which is weakening the value of other currencies. That means other countries pay more for importing goods, adding to the inflation that central banks are trying to bring down. It’s a scenario that wasn’t foreseen by Friedman when he advocated for floating exchange rates. He believed floating exchange rates would balance out terms of trade, but clearly that’s not happening. So, Phil asks Steve this week, is there a case for some form of capital controls, or other restraints on the flow and value of currencies? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There’s a vain hope in investment circles, and amongst politicians, that we can still enjoy economic growth on the road to NetZero. There are those who believe that we can decouple our economic growth from our consumption of fossil fuels. In other words, we can continue to enjoy growth driven capitalism whilst avoiding the impacts of catastrophic climate change. Steve Keen is less convinced. He fits into the zero-growth camp, where the only way to reduce our impact on the planet is to stop increasing our consumption. So, what would that look like? For many people it might not be too different to life now, with vast segments of the population seeing their wages falling and living standards reduced. But the top echelons of society would feel the difference. Also, how do companies innovate if they lose the profit motive. And isn’t it all part of some global conspiracy for a new world order controlled by the elite, led by Bill Gates, who is merely a puppet for shape shifting reptilians working to destroy humanity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Are we earning too much? Many of us are now spending less than we earn on day-to-day consumption items We’re putting our excess income into our future earnings, through our pension funds, who use a chunk of that the money to buy non-productive assets, liking investing in shares on the secondary market, to no-benefit of the companies we invest in. Phil talks to Steve about why we have this imbalance between earnings and spending when, at an aggregate level, our income should equal our productive outputs. The difference is, of course, that we borrow a great deal, particularly to buy a house. It’s this reliance on borrowing which is increasing our consumption beyond the outputs we provide to the economy. And we borrow more than we can afford on the assumption that house prices will rise. So the question isn’t whether we should earn less, but whether we should borrow less. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If he managed to stay out of gaol and makes it to the White House, Donald Trump has proposed a flat 10% tariff on all goods coming into America. He’s called it the Ring Around the Collar of America – which has led some to suggest the policy is a nasty stain that will be difficult to get out. But as phil Dobbie discovers, Trump has one supporter in the shape of Steve Keen. Steve talks from Hungary, where he is currently on assignment, suggesting this form of protectionism will be good for America. But will it come at the expense of GATT (the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs). Could we be entering an era when all nations are imposing trade barriers and the prospect of free trade disappears. “I won’t be shedding any crocodile tears over that,” says Steve. Listen in to see why Steve is a Trump supporter on this particular issue. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Recently Steve was commissioned to write a report for Carbon Tracker, an independent think tank offering in-depth analysis of the impact of climate change and energy transition on the finance industry. Inside “Loading the DICE Against Pensions” he looks at the reasons why pension funds have vastly underestimated the impact of climate change on investments. He talks through the issues with Phil, who asks, even if we know how bad the situation is, how will it change where we put our money?You can download the full report here: https://carbontracker.org/reports/loading-the-dice-against-pensions/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There has been lots of speculation about BRICs countries working to develop a new trading currency, to enable trade without the reliance on the US dollar. There’s also talk that maybe this new currency will be backed by gold? Many suggest this will be a challenge to western fiat money. There’s a suggestion that such currencies will lose value against such a strong currency, backed by a physical commodity. This week Phil talks to Steve about this commodity obsession and why this idea wouldn’t work unless, of course, you aren’t interesting in growing the size of the economy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

QE was big news before the pandemic. Then, as governments issued bailouts to keep us at home, central banks went into overdrive, buying up the mushrooming bond issuance from government. In some ways, it was a sort of People’s QE, because the money was finding its way directly into people’s bank accounts. So, how does that compare to the QE before we all got ill? And is the pandemic-style QE at all responsible for the rise in inflation we’ve experienced since? Phil asks Steve if there are lessons to be learned about People’s QE and inflation. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Phil and Steve return to the well-worn path of talking about house prices. Why? Because, despite the downturn during the pandemic, followed by sharp rises in interest rates by central banks around the world, house prices are again edging up. Clearly, nothing can stop the march higher, even though an increasing proportion of the population simply can’t afford to enter the property market. So, we know who the losers are. Ut who is winning? And what can government policy do to build a more affordable stock of housing? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The UK is recovering slower than just about anyone from the pandemic. The UK’s GDP is flat compared to where it was four years ago, whereas most countries have recovered from the pandemic, and then some. Inflation rose faster than most comparable economies and is taking longer to come down. So why is the UK struggling so much. This week Phil asks Steve the obvious question, has Brexit got something to do with it? And what role does a growing trade deficit play in the tardiness of Britain’s recovery? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

One of the biggest problems Britain faces is that so much of the wealth is concentrated in the southeast. And it only seems to be getting worse. The country has shifted from a Prime Minister who promised to level-up the economy, to a fiscal conservative who wants to cut government spending and reduce real wages, meaning there is less spending power outside London. Phil asks Steve if there is an easy solution to the economic destruction London is rendering on the rest of the UK? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The UK Chancellor and the Bank of England Governor have called for increases in productivity as a way of helping to brig down inflation. So, not only should workers expect wages to fall in real terms, people should also be doing more per hour worked. Are they dreaming? This week, Steve Keen says you can’t increase output without increasing investment in technology and machinery, something the Chancellor is less keen to do. So long as the UK is investment starved, you’ll never see a rise in productivity.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We last had a financial crisis in 2008 (ignoring the pandemic years), and if we’re not in another crisis now, we’re well on the way to it, with mortgages rising, taxes increasing and the price of everything continuing to rise. Your spending power is being hit in three directions. But, isn’t that what central banks want? So we spend less and inflation comes down, theoretically. Yet the banks, who might not be to blame this time, are now feeling the hurt. In fact, they stand to gain from rising interest rates because they can raise their borrowing costs. This week Phil asks Steve, will the banks always win, come what may? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The UK economy is ready for a major downturn. In part it’s down to supply chain difficulties, thanks to COVID, the war, the great resignation, sickness and, let’s not forget, Brexit. Originally central banks recognised this and said the inflation was transitory and we just needed to ride it out. Since then, they’ve gone back to their conventional thinking that inflation can only be fought with interest rates. The higher the better it seems. But Prof Steve Keen tells Phil Dobbie that it is the worst response possible, causing unnecessary suffering and cutting back on the kind of investment that could fix the supply chain difficulties. So why are they doing what they are doing? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If we ignore the flagrant human rights abuses, there’s a lot to admire about China. There economy has grown at an incredibly rate whilst the West has been stagnating. So, what’s their secret? Phil quotes Mervyn King, former BoE governor, who spoke to a Chinese central banker and asked that very question. Hear what he said, and what Steve Keen thinks is behind China’s growth, in this week’s podcast.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Older Brits will be familiar with Bruce Forsythe’s Generation. Today everyone is playing the Generation Game, but the young are the one’s losing out. They are steeped in debt and faced with the prospect of progressively unaffordable housing. Many of the over 60s meanwhile, have accrued healthy amounts of assets. As Phil Dobbie discusses with Steve Keen much of this we4alth will be passed on, but not everyone will benefit. So intergenerational wealth is adding to the rich-poor gap.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We know we don’t pay a fair price for energy. Energy companies are making a mint because they extract the energy without worrying about most of the externalities – like the impact they are having on the ecology of our planet. But what if they did pay a fair price? Could the economy survive? Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen if we can fix our problems with the pricing mechanism if there was a way to accurately cost energy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There is about £2.5 - 3 trillion of assets in UK private pension schemes. Through the tax system we are heavily incentivised to put money into our pension plans. So, what’s wrong with that? That money is supposedly used to invest in businesses, so it helps the economy grow. If only. This week Steve Keen talks to Phil Dobbie about the orle pensions have had in the financialisaton of the economy. He believes a better state funded system would be a healthier approach, but don’t count on it happening anytime soon. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Part of the problem with the global economy is that nobody has a plan, except perhaps the Chinese Communist Party. Elsewhere politicians lurch from one crisis to another, and any long-term planning is simply about how they can win the next election, and that often means kowtowing to the powerful, who well might be funding their election campaign. This week Steve talks through the work of Positive Money, who do have a plan about how to transform the economy, ignoring vested interests, throwing away trickle-down theory and building an economy dominated by a banking sector reliant on rising house prices. So they have a plan, but what do we do with it? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Central banks seem to be in a rush to offer digital currencies, but why? Conspiracy theories point to China, and visions of private bank accounts monitored by the state to counter the hidden transactions of cryptocurrencies. But the proposition for crypto is very different. Central banks aren’t offering a new investment opportunity, they are talking about a transactional currency. But how does that differ to our sovereign currencies for which most money is stored in a digital form. The case for consumers is far from compelling, but Phil and Steve hit upon what could be the real motivation. You have to wait to the end of the podcast to get there. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

New Keynesian economists have accepted that their HANK model, which models the behaviour of one representative agent, doesn’t explain the outcomes on different income groups. As we know, the latest rate rises are having a more profound impact on income variation. Steve says their models don’t work because they don’t realise the distribution of income. The answer , according to the new Keynsians, is to assume a HANK model, which allows for heterogeneity, with different consumer groups behaving in different way, dependent on their income and wealth. Is this a step forward, or a band aid on a flawed concept? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Reaching net zero – is it doable, or is it just a pipe dream? In podcasts recently Steve Keen has expressed thoughts that we are already too late to avoid catastrophic climate change. But this week, Harald Desing, a scientist at Empa, the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology, gives a more positive spin on the outlook. He reckons, if we focused on the task, accepted there would have to be an increased usage in fossil fuels in the short term, we should be able to get to net zero in 5 to 10 years. Of course, anyone who has watched “Don’t Look Up” knows that scientists might have the answer, but it’s the politicians and media commentators who will stop it happening. And the economists, let’s not forget them. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nobody wins when rates rise. Central banks might argue that everybody wins, because they are using these rises as the blunt instrument to knock down inflation. But the wealthy lose out because asset prices take a hammering, and the working poor become of the unworking even-poorer as the economic slowdown leads to rising unemployment. But it’s clear those on lower incomes suffer the most. This week Phil asks Steve if there’s a way for central banks to reduce the inequality as they seek to tame inflation? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There is nothing or contentious that immigration, it seems. In the UK there’s a swathe of the population that don’t like foreigners very much, unless they are serving than fish and chips in Torremolinos. Others will deny being xenophobic but argue that Britain is full and there’s no room for anybody else. A more rationale argument might be that too much immigration happening too quickly can have societal and economic impacts – but what is too much and too quickly? This week Phil Dobbie and Steve Keen wade into the immigration debate. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Not so long ago the world was worried about deflation, supposedly driven by low-cost imports from China, but also a stagnating economy driven by high levels of private debt. Now central banks are trying their hardest to bring down inflation, fearing without their expertise it will spiral out of control. So, will it? What caused it? And can we live with it? This week Phil and Steve look at the pros and cons of inflation and discuss whether it is here to stay. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Silicon Valley Bank collapsed last month because there was a run on the bank and they didn’t have the assets to cover their customers deposits. They were trading insolvent, in other words, even though they had switched the money deposited into US Treasuries, supposedly the safest investment on earth. But they bought before the price of Treasuries came crashing down, as bond yields went up. This week Phil asks Steve if bonds now behave just like shares, and how much of the recent volatility is the result of QE by central banks? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After the Great Depression a bunch of economists got together to hatch a plan to stop future runs on banks. The plan called for banks to only accept demand deposits “subject to a 100% reserve requirement in in lawful money and/or deposits with the Reserve Banks”. Some read that as an end to fractional reserve banking but, as Steve Keen explains this week, fractional reserve banking doesn’t really exist because banks don’t lend out deposits. And whilst some good came out of the Chicago Plan, he reckons restricting a banks ability to create money would be bad news for the economy. And wouldn’t stop a bank run – as evidenced by the recent collapse of SVB in the US.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If the west decouples itself from China and other autocratic regimes, just as we have done, to an extent with Russia, what does that mean for international trade? What does it mean for international investment if we exclude money from countries that are growing faster than we are? This week’s discussion follows a question from Pola, a listener, who asked, “Any chance you could talk about foreign debts and how this works? Also what impacts are likely to occur as BRICS etc move to payments in their own currencies instead of US dollars”. Or, perhaps, more poignantly, what would be the impact of a BRICs wide trading currency to challenge the dollar.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The collapse of Silicon Valley Bank last week can be put down to two things – first a management team that clearly ignored the falling value of the assets they held, and second the fact that the Fed was doing its best to make those assets fall even more\. The end result is hardly a surprise when you look at the numbers. In fact Frances Coppola predicted as much after the collapse of Silvergate Capital. This week Phil and Steve look at what went wrong and ask whether it could happen to other banks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

At the end of this week’s mega-long episode of the Debunking Economics Podcast Steve Keen admits he longer sees Australian house prices as the most important issue on the planet. But it, along with private schools, continues to occupy dinner party conversations in many Australian households. So, with prices now falling, will they spiral down further as the RBA continues to lift interest rates. Or will they, as often seems to happen will they slow for a while than pick back up as inflation slows? This week Phil and Steve examine the growing wealth divide in Australia, driven by those who bought property early enough, and those who missed out and can’t get on the ladder.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week on Debunking Economics Phil and Steve are joined by Richard McGahey, author of a new book “Unequal Cities: Overcoming anti-urban bias to reduce inequality in the United States”. One of the problems the US faces is that cities, by and large, are self-funded, with little in the way of federal or state support, beyond minimal welfare programmes. And cities compete with each other to survive. As Steve points out, being self-sufficient within an organism is not how organisms function properly. But that’s how the American economy is structured. And Richard suggests that the US is losing out, because properly funded cities are the most productive aspects of an economy, provided the ills of city living, such as pollution, congestion and social inequality, are funded and managed. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

They are pushing up interest rates thew world over because monetary theory dictates that this is the way to bring down inflation. But not so long ago those same banks were arguing that inflation was only transitory and there was no need to lift rates. So, what changed? And why isn’t it working. Inflation is coming down very slowly and the wage pressures they seek to ease, by making people lose their jobs, isn’t working. The labour market is as tight as ever. This week Phil asks Steve what central banks are playing at, and, if they fail, will governments and the public start to lose faith in them and the policies these unelected representatives foist on us? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The UK is gripped by strikes right now, but they are not the only ones. All over the world public and private sector workers are taking action as their salaries fail to keep up with inflation. Central banks are urging caution, fearing a wage spiral could push prices higher. This week Phil Dobbie and Steve Keen discuss the theory behind wage setting – a principle that someone sees chief executives earning a ridiculous multiple of the take-home pay of their workers. So, how are wages arrived at? One theory suggests it is the contribution they make to the profitability of a company, but Steve says its more to do with entrenched hierarchy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Over the weekend Liz Truss was singing her own praises, with a front-page article in the UK’s Sunday Telegraph. She is known, of course, for being the UK’s shortest-term Prime Minister after her plans for tax cuts (mainly for the wealthy) sent finance markets into a spin. In particular, bond prices collapsed and saw pension funds running low on collateral, forcing the Bank of England to step in. But was she wrong? Former Chancellor George Osborne said she made the mistake of cutting taxes without cutting spending. Does that make her the poster child of MMT supporters? She’d be horrified at the description, no doubt. This week Phil and Steve talk about what was good (if anything) and bad about Liz Truss’ economic plan.487660a055c71bc8d6cc950a3efd059b83f2adb0 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For most of us liquidity is an easy concept to understand. Have we got enough cash to pay our bills? For small businesses it is a simple case of managing your cashflow and ensuring your cash on hand exceeds your current liabilities. For banks it’s a mix of ensuring you have the capital to meet demands from depositors, as well as the reserves to meet interbank transfers. To ensure we have liquidity we ensure there is a buffer, to keep us out of trouble. But does that buffer keep us using money productively. Even though Paul Krugman is Steve Keen’s Professor Moriarty, can his babysitting voucher analogy help us to understand the impact of low levels of liquidity on a functioning economy where productivity capacity isn’t being fully utilised. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It would be a bold prediction to say that capitalism is on the way out. Nor should it be. It has provided growth and innovation for the global economy, but has it become too laissez faire? Phil asks Steve whether we need to return to the mixed-economy many of us grew up with – when governments controlled large essential sectors, such as transport and utilities, and imposed tighter regulations on those sectors open to private sector involvement. Are we seeing how unfettered capitalism creates more problems, even before we consider the impact it is having on the consumption of the planet’s resources?   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Conventional economics is built around the idea of opportunity cost. If there is a limited resource a decision has to be made about how best to use it. How is that principle applied when you look at Modern Monetary Theory, when governments can create money without limits until you have reached a point of full employment. There is no need to look at one choice over another. Perhaps you can do both? So, what determines how money is spent? Are those spending decisions left in the hands of politicians? Steve Keen says, to start with, the theory of opportunity cost should be ditched because it only applies at a personal level. He explains why that is, but agrees with Phil that politics is the big stumbling block when it comes to the practical application of MMT.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After a disastrous couple of years, can things get any worse in 2023? Steve Keen and Phil Dobbie look ahead and actually find some positive take-outs from the precarious situation we find ourselves in. Inflation will fall, that’s taken as read. Politics will shift to the left, that’s already happening. But our future is still left in the hands of politicians who have no idea how to steer us to a more positive future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Most people think economics can be summarised in just two words – supply and demand. Where they cross that determines price and as they move the price moves. But what if the supply curve is wrong, or meaningless. One of the first economists to question that was Piero Sraffa, an Italian economist who had grave misgivings about the law of diminishing returns. Steve Keen talks through Sraffa’s life and theories on this week’s Debunking Economics podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, another economist that has influenced Steve Keen’s thinking; the Austrian born economist Joseph Schumpeter. His economic thinking veers a long way from the traditional Austrian school. As Steve explains this week, Schumpeter argued that if an economy was always moving to or from a point of equilibrium, then it follows that the profit of companies will always be zero. Only through innovation will those businesses get ahead, with means money invested in older technologies will no longer be rewarded. This was Schumpeter’s argument for Creative Destruction, an idea so basic you wonder why nobody had made the observation before him. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bill Phillips, rightly or wrongly, has a lot to answer for, because his work is drawn on by central banks when trying to determine the likely rate of inflation. But are they misinterpreting his theories? This week Steve Keen explains why there’s more to the Phillips curve than most people understand. There’s also a lot behind the man, from life on a farm in New Zealand, to engineering a radio in secret in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp. Listen in to hear the story of the man behind the infamous Phillips curve. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We continue our series looking at economists who influenced Steve Keens thinking. This week it’s American economists Richard Goodwin, who Steve says is the chief proponent of non-linear thinking in economics. He wrote Theories of Surplus Value, which was about business cycles happening without any exogenous shocks, from overaccumulation and overproduction His biggest weakness was that he didn’t accept the role of banks in money creation, as he highlighted in a letter to Steve in the 1990s. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Irving Fisher was an American economist whose book The Purchasing Power of Money looked at the relationship between money supply and price levels. In fact, to many he is seen as the father of monetarism, but on this week’s podcast Steve Keen explains how Fisher’s struggles with debt led him to develop his thinking on debt deflation as the cause of major economic downturns. He’s the first of a series of economists who have influenced Steve’s thinking, that we’ll be looking at over the next five weeks or so. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How widespread is the idea that one person's debt is another person's credit and therefore has no impact on the economy. What are the implications of this thinking and what changes when the realisation that the banking sector is also involved and so is is the relative velocity of money in different hands. If we accepted that debt and credit don't always can cancel each other out how would that change the approach of governments and the monetary policy of Central Banks?  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

His answer to Great depression was that we should spend our way out. But now we have rampant inflation because people are spending too much. What would Keynes do now if he was presented with the challenge of trying to prevent the world from going into a global recession whilst also getting inflation under control? Steve and Phil look at the ideas of Keynes and ask would any of them help us in the situation we now find ourselves in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

During the last big financial crisis there was a lot of talk about the work of Hyman Minsky. Even Janet Yellen, at the time the chair of the San Francisco Fed, said there were a lot of lessons in his work for central bankers. What did she mean? Or, as Steve Keen asks, has she actually read any of his work? This week Phil asks Steve what was the thinking behind Minsky’s Financial Instability Hypothesis. And what was a Minsky moment, and why are we so far from one right now? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In a recent podcast Steve Keen claimed that the law of thermodynamics dictates that we can no longer extend economic growth whilst looking for efficiencies in our use of energy. This week Phil questions Steve more on this. After all, so much of the growth we have seen over the last 100 years has come from the way we harness energy and use it to better effect. Can’t we just keep doing that? And could we use economics to fix the problems it has created, by more accurtaelyt pricing the real cost of energy and pollution? Even if we could – and Steve says we are already consuming too much of the earth’s resources - the International Energy Agency reckons if we are to reach net zero by 2050, then energy efficiency needs to improve by 4% per year. We’re a long way from achieving that, so is it time for a reality check? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Last week on the Debunking Economics podcast Phil and Steve talked about the likely imposition of Austerity 2.0 around the world, in particular in the UK. Steve said there’s really no need for it. This week he explains more about how cuts in the government deficit starves the private sector of cash, which will guarantee a recession, or worse. Listen in for an easy-to-follow explanation of how a government deficit increases money in circulation and how reducing that deficit shrinks the money supply. They talk about Wynne Godley’s explanation of sectoral balances, and how the interplay between government spending and private sector money is how the economy works now. The complicating factor, is foreign spending. What happens when government money finds itself overseas? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With big-spending Boris gone, Britain’s new Prime Minister will almost certainly promote austerity 2.0, under the guise of fiscal conservatism. He won’t be alone in that, with governments the world over trying to reduce the deficit they incurred during the pandemic. But is austerity the way to help the economy back onto its feet? And do governments need to balance their books?In August the UK government spent £10 billion than its income. Listen in to find out why you should be thinking of that as new money added to the UK’s £2.2 trillion economy, rather than an expense that has to be repaid. Slower spending by governments and fiscal tightening by central banks will shrink the money supply at a time when people are already struggling through lower real wages, higher inflation and cuts to public services. Are governments ready to hasten the downward spiral? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Before her plans were ripped up, the UK’s newest Prime Minister was promising growth, growth, growth in an economy that has avoided it for a long time. And she was going to do it through that tried and tested method of trickle-down economics! Cut taxes for the rich and watch the economy grow. Sadly, we’ll never know whether it worked or not because the plans have been ditched and its back to higher taxes and less government spending. More austerity and low growth. But, Phil asks Steve, isn’t low growth what we need? If we want to save the planet surely we have to abandon the idea that each year we consume that little bit more? But how do you do that when entrepreneurs need the growth imperative to come up with those innovative ideas that improve our lives. Without the incentive for companies to grow wouldn’t we end up with a Soviet-style centrally planned economy, producing lots of stuff that nobody wants. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We all know money has a value, but if you are borrowing it, it also has a cost. But aside from buying houses and a few other big items, we generally are more concerned with the value of the money we earn rather than the cost of the money we borrow. Today we look at the relationship between the cost and value of money, and ask whether the instability in interest rates is hindering our ability to plan for our future. What would happen if interest rates were fixed? And what about the rising cost of money, when governments need to spend more money to support us when times are tough – like now, for example? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.