
Season 1 · Episode 368
A zero growth economy – how bad would it get?
If we assume we can’t enjoy economic growth without consuming more energy, then the only way forward is a zero-growth economy. Phil asks Steve Keen, what that would look like?
Debunking Economics - the podcast · Steve Keen & Phil Dobbie
September 13, 202342m 16s
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Show Notes
There’s a vain hope in investment circles, and amongst politicians, that we can still enjoy economic growth on the road to NetZero. There are those who believe that we can decouple our economic growth from our consumption of fossil fuels. In other words, we can continue to enjoy growth driven capitalism whilst avoiding the impacts of catastrophic climate change. Steve Keen is less convinced. He fits into the zero-growth camp, where the only way to reduce our impact on the planet is to stop increasing our consumption. So, what would that look like? For many people it might not be too different to life now, with vast segments of the population seeing their wages falling and living standards reduced. But the top echelons of society would feel the difference. Also, how do companies innovate if they lose the profit motive. And isn’t it all part of some global conspiracy for a new world order controlled by the elite, led by Bill Gates, who is merely a puppet for shape shifting reptilians working to destroy humanity?
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