
Danny and Em
Jonathan Stewart & Danny Hatcher
Show overview
Danny and Em has been publishing since 2020, and across the 4 years since has built a catalogue of 153 episodes, alongside 2 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 170 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence, with the show now in its 4th season.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 53 min and 1h 17m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The catalogue appears to be on hiatus or wound down — the most recent episode landed 1.8 years ago, with no new episodes in over a year. The busiest year was 2022, with 47 episodes published. Published by Jonathan Stewart & Danny Hatcher.
From the publisher
Previously known as "Notion Nerds". A weekly podcast exploring light hearted conversation around Personal Knowledge Management + Productivity through an Ecological dynamics approach. Hosted by Amelia Stewart: https://simplicity-specialist.com and Danny Hatcher: https://dannyhatcher.com/
Latest Episodes
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S4 Ep 28Managing Energy
EWe spoke about energy management in this session, as well as exploring the definitions of projects and tasks.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 27Be more specific
EWe have another discussion about labels, and how actually what if Labels are useful? Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 26Throwing out the rulebook
EWe dive into Danny's experience with the coaching industry, and his experience with the coaching training, and the ecological approach (because do we ever talk about anything else :p)Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 25The difficulty of everyday behaviour
EIn this episode we explore building a sustainable online presence and business by focusing on authenticity and their unique experiences vs trying to do it other ways with funnels and all the traditional ways of approaching things. Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 24When are social labels useful?
EIn this episode we explore social labels, ADHD, Autism and their relationship.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 23Student Becoming The Master?
EWe discuss a little bit about course creation, and using an Ecological Approach to course design, as well as a conversation around sharing your experience as an educator.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 22Marketing The Ecological Approach
EWe discuss marketing the ecological approach, which is what we're both attempting to do! How do we balance between marketing, and sticking with the Ecological Approach.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 21Feeling instructions that make more sense...
EWe discuss about "feeling instructions" vs being told how to do it.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 20Ali Abdaal made some interesting points...
EWe speak about Ali's conversation around building a business.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 19Ecological Linguistics
EWe discuss the language of the Ecological Approach.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website Watch the Podcast

S4 Ep 18Ecological Games
EWe talk about Ecological Games.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 17Andrew Huberman is a good example
EWe discuss Andrew Huberman and his approaches.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 16WTF is Ecological Psychology
EWE take a step back and talk about WTF is Ecological Psychology. This episode is inspired by our joint article with the same title.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 15BASB Conference
EIn this episode we talk a little bit about BASB, and our experience with Conferences and the struggles when you gain expertise in a topic.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: WebsiteWatch the Podcast

S4 Ep 14Ecological Conferences
EWe have an interesting chat about Conferences, and how we could create n Ecological Conference, where instead of it being focused on teaching, it's about the in between bits, where people are exploring problems in a practical (ecological) sense.Danny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast Timestamps00:00 Exploring Ecological Conferences: The Search for a Go-To Event01:27 The Challenge of High-Level Conversations in Ecological Psychology02:45 Bridging the Gap: Ecological Approaches in Sports and Business06:16 The Critical State: Understanding Learning Through Ecological Dynamics10:50 Expanding the Ecological Approach: From Sports to Business and Beyond14:29 The Power of Perception: Exploring Intuition and Sensory Experience18:48 Language and Communication: From Sign Language to Conference Dialogues22:36 Exploring the Meta of Coaching23:04 Redefining Education: The Conference Concept23:51 Conference or Workshop? Crafting the Ideal Learning Environment24:49 The Essence of Effective Coaching and Learning26:11 Innovative Practice Design in Business and Sports27:34 The Power of Problem-Solving and Practice Design34:40 Shifting the Focus: From High Ticket to High Impact39:48 The Ecological Approach to Learning and Coaching43:56 Rethinking Conferences and Cohort-Based Courses

S4 Ep 13Confusing Neuroscience
EIn this episode we talk a little bit about the relationship of Neuroscience and ADHD, Autism and other forms of Neurodiversity. We talk about the assumptions of the "Default Mode Network" and how it's just confusing. Instead of exploring the Ecological Approach which is focused on direct perception. We also chat about my experience with trying to market the ecological approach in business (which like most things) are primarily Information Processing based.00:50 Diving into the Neuroscience of ADHD and Neurodiversity01:56 Exploring Brain Networks and Their Implications05:18 Challenging the Conventional Understanding of Brain Function09:17 The Ecological Psychology Perspective on Attention and Action15:38 Navigating the Complexities of Focus and Distraction20:16 Marketing and Business Through an Ecological Lens25:17 Reflecting on Personal Growth and Client Work26:17 Exploring Performance Improvement and Skill Development27:23 The Intricacies of Skill Development28:00 Understanding Expertise and Performance Metrics29:30 Navigating Personal Marketing and Expertise32:57 The Challenge of Marketing to Neurodiverse Audiences40:00 Refining Coaching Practices and Marketing Strategies46:51 Philosophy and Practice Design in Coaching52:22 Concluding Thoughts on Coaching and Personal Growth

S4 Ep 12Ranting About Mini Essays
EWe delve into the frustrations with oversimplified advice in business and personal growth. We chat about the limitations of step-by-step guides and talk a LOT about ecological design and continuous thinking. We also touch on the value of communication, coordination, and constraints in parenting and learning.TIMESTAMPS00:00 Kicking Off with Raw Reactions01:33 Diving into the Debate: Mini Essays and Learning Tools02:52 Exploring the Feynman Technique and Learning Journeys03:54 The Challenge of Publishing and the Essence of Mini Essays07:59 Over-Engineering and Simplifying Writing Processes21:42 The Intricacies of Focus and Productivity Advice30:39 Navigating Mental Health and Ecological Dynamics33:09 The Reality of Distractions and Time Management40:04 The Power of Calendar Blocking41:18 Organising vs. Being Organised: A Creator's Dilemma41:55 Calendar Insights: Planning and Flexibility43:16 The Role of Insider Information in Organisation46:32 Ecological Design: Beyond Traditional Organisation53:37 The Continuous Journey of Learning and Acting59:35 Ecological Parenting: Designing Environments for Learning01:10:43 Applying Ecological Design in Various Domains01:19:57 Reflecting on Content Creation and Ecological Validity

S4 Ep 11What it means to be smart
EWe dive into what it means to be "smart" we chat about some common misconceptions that intelligent or smart characters are meant to undermine others or showcase their superiority! We also talk about the bible and the assumptions surrounding "reading00:00 Opening Banter and Setting the Stage00:19 Diving into D&D Character Intelligence01:00 Exploring Intelligence Beyond Stereotypes04:03 The Misconception of Smartness in Media04:34 Debunking the Smart Equals Money Myth05:46 Role-Playing Intelligence in D&D07:42 Expertise vs. Intelligence in Character Play08:41 The Constraints of Intelligence in D&D11:58 Cognitive Approaches to Intelligence and Skill20:12 The Misinterpretation of Reading and Writing Skills31:30 Affordances and Opportunities for Behavior35:54 The Importance of Direct Communication Over Reading36:43 Understanding Multi-Causality in Sports Science37:04 Exploring the Complexities of Communication and Time39:03 The Misconception of Doing Less for More Focus40:10 Embracing Variability and Avoiding Burnout40:54 The Power of Embracing Neurodiversity and Doing More41:29 Challenging the Hustle Culture and Redefining Productivity45:00 The Ecological Approach to Learning and Productivity01:04:27 Concluding Thoughts on Embracing Variability

S4 Ep 10Do Well Read People Exist?
EIn this chat, we discuss David Perell's recent tweet sharing is idea of the Bible as the ultimate source of education, touching on their personal experiences and views on religion. We also express frustration with adding complexity around "idea emergence", mentioned by Nick Milo noting that these often hinder natural idea emergence. We dive into how goal-directed behaviours can lead to learning and challenge traditional methodologies in education that prioritise exam passing over practical life skills. The conversation concludes with the acceptance of inevitable complexities in processes and how best to navigate them.Timestamp00:00 Introduction to the Ideaverse and the Bible00:28 Personal Experiences with Religion and the Bible00:59 Questioning the Value of Reading the Bible for Education02:04 Exploring the Influence of Religion in Different Societies03:22 The Bible and Modern Topics: A Mismatch?03:53 The Role of Trust and Philosophy in Understanding the Bible05:36 The Importance of Diverse Perspectives in Learning07:43 The Power of Action-Oriented Behaviour08:06 The Art of Non-Linear Thinking and Writing09:10 The Role of Organisation in Productivity14:55 The Importance of Context in Reading Proficiency22:44 The Role of Motivation in Learning25:28 The Power of Stats and Community Feedback27:07 The Impact of Education on Real Life Skills31:25 The Role of Failure in Learning36:42 The Concept of Idea Emergence38:30 Navigating Complexity and Consequences39:51 The Influence of Marketing on Complexity47:15 Closing ThoughtsReferences:David Perell's Tweet: https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/1762806503722127670Idea Emergence Tweet: https://twitter.com/nickmilo/status/1556989944744366080

S4 Ep 9Co-ordinating with Others
EIn this episode we speak about "affordances", and Danny poses the question... can we see affordances in the environment of others?TIMESTAMPS0:00 Introduction1:40 Affordances of others22:40 Notion app future35:00 Cognitive load57:10 Parenting with affordancesDanny Hatcher: Website | YouTubeJonathan Stewart: Website | PodcastWatch the Podcast