Cult or Just Weird

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- "We use Halloween to scare the kids and bankers to scare the adults." - Anthony T. Hincks Chris and Kayla revisit a past guest to explore a new topic - and take a look at our own biases. Special thanks to returning friend of the show, Mike Rothschild! @rothschildmd on twitter, The Storm is Upon Us on Amazon Episode content warning: Antisemitism --- *Search Categories* Conspiracy Theory; Business; Anthropological; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* The Rothschild Family --- *Further Reading* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_antisemitism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/24162 https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/retropod/how-the-antisemitic-conspiracy-theories-about-the-rothschilds-began-1/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/03/19/the-rothschilds-a-pamphlet-by-satan-and-conspiracy-theories-tied-to-a-battle-200-years-ago/ https://www.salon.com/2022/04/14/do-jewish-bankers-control-the-weather-a-short-history-of-this-dumb-but-ugly-conspiracy-theory/ https://www.britannica.com/story/where-do-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theories-about-the-rothschild-family-come-from https://paulsalmons.associates/blog/conspiracy-theories https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/Rothschild https://www.jta.org/2022/05/23/culture/a-rothschild-who-debunks-conspiracy-theories-for-a-living-is-writing-the-book-about-jewish-space-lasers --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, ISeeSpidersWhereThereAreNone, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- We here at Cult or Just Weird like to call ourselves a family. Kayla & Chris deep dive into a recent article outlining the cult-like criteria present in an area of life where most of us toil away. --- *Search Categories* Business --- *Topic Spoiler* "Company or Cult?" article from The Economist --- *Further Reading* https://www.economist.com/business/2022/03/05/company-or-cult https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/15/technology/metamates-meta-facebook.html https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/tripping-through-ibms-astonishingly-insane-1937-corporate-songbook/ https://www-cdn.law.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/SSRN-id2994394.pdf --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, ISeeSpidersWhereThereAreNone, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- If your compassion does not include yourself, it is incomplete. -Jack Kornfield Chris & Kayla tap into their trust network- all the previous guests of the show- to help them build a toolbox of self care strategies. --- *Search Categories* Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Self care ideas from COJW guests --- *Further Reading* - Move your body! - Chores can be good! Brush your teeth! - Coping skills are ok, they help you cope! - Don't be too hard on yourself, it's ok to miss a day of something! - Do skin care! - Protect your own time first! - Sleep is good, not bad! - Meditate! Mindfulness rocks! - Shake your body! - Put an ice pack on your chest! - Talk therapy can really help! - Medication can really help (ask your doctor)! - Checking things off a checklist is fun! - Play a sport, hulk out with weights, or swim! - Watch a good tv show! Play a good video game! - Stretch while sitting down! - Attend to your need for social contact, whatever that may look like for you! - Everyone is different and unique and will have different self care strategies that they like! - Love yourself! - You are already awesome! https://headspace.org.au/headspace-centres/maitland/new-blog-post-3/ --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, ISeeSpidersWhereThereAreNone, Instantly Joy

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- "A simple cup of tea is far from a simple matter. -Mary Lou Heiss" You might want to put that cup of tea down while Kayla spills some of her own tea about a certain producer of such products. Warning: Eugenics :( --- *Search Categories* New Age; Business; Destructive; Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Celestial Seasonings Tea Company & Urantia --- *Further Reading* https://www.inverse.com/article/10731-cults-conspiracies-and-the-twisted-history-of-sleepytime-tea https://www.foodandwine.com/drinks/sleepytime-tea-and-little-known-religion-behind-it https://thoughtcatalog.com/christine-stockton/2021/01/the-insane-true-story-of-the-racist-eugenics-book-your-inspirational-teabag-tag-might-be-based-on/ http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/celestial-seasonings-inc-history/ https://www.urantia.org/trustees/mo-siegel https://www.urantia.org/ https://urantia-book.org/archive/readers/doc170.htm#III.C https://web.archive.org/web/20150518080730/https://urantia-book.org/archive/readers/doc170.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book#Criticism_of_its_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Sadler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_Seasonings https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/celebritytalentbios/Mo+Siegel/3777 http://symmetryofsoul.org/wiki/Symmetry_of_Soul_Hosts https://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/24310 --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, ISeeSpidersWhereThereAreNone

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Information is abundant. Your attention is priceless. Chris & Kayla kick off S4 of Cult or Just Weird by finding a pretty darn good helper, who has some advice all of us stand to benefit from. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* Interview w/ Mike Caulfield of UW's Center for an Informed Public --- *Further Reading* https://www.cip.uw.edu/ https://hapgood.us/2019/06/19/sift-the-four-moves/ https://hapgood.us/2021/06/12/participatory-propaganda-tropes-and-trope-field-fit-part-one/ https://projectinfolit.org/pubs/provocation-series/essays/information-literacy-for-mortals.html https://www.cip.uw.edu/2022/03/02/misinfoday-2022-workshops/ https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/io https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty/joan-donovan --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, ISeeSpidersWhereThereAreNone

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Chris & Kayla interview Stephanie McNeal, Senior Buzzfeed culture reporter, and author of the article on LuLaRoe: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits Rise & Fall of LuLaRoe Discovery+ documentary featuring Ms McNeal: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16125656/ *** This episode was originally published to Cult or Just Weird patrons (https://www.patreon.com/cultorjustweird) on 12/21/2021.

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Every step is on the path. (Lao Tzu) Chris & Kayla reflect on their journey producing three seasons of Cult or Just Weird, and discuss what lies in store for the future. Happy Holidays & may your 2022 bring peace and happiness. --- *Search Categories* Common Interest/Fandom --- *Topic Spoiler* CoJW's journey & learnings --- *Further Reading* www.cultorjustweird.com --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- The tree of spiritual munificence must be refreshed from time to time. Chris gets to learn all about the Amish from someone whose story has been featured on a previous episode. (thanks to Lizzie Hershberger, co-author of Behind Blue Curtains, for her time & insights!) --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* Amish (current day) & interview with Lizzie Hershberger --- *Further Reading* https://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/experts/topics/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Ammann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Brethren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menno_Simons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_people https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anabaptists https://ideaexchange.uakron.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1030&context=amishstudies https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-Baptist-and-an-Anabaptist https://www.discoverlancaster.com/amish/history-beliefs/ https://amishamerica.com/where-do-the-amish-live/ https://www.amishfurniturefactory.com/amishblog/are-there-amish-settlements-outside-the-united-states/ https://scholarlyoa.com/why-dont-amish-use-technology/ https://www.amishvalleyproducts.com/why-do-amish-reject-modern-technology --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- "If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water." -Loren Eiseley Chris revisits a previous topic but widens the scope by deep diving into the (sometimes violent) religious shards of context. --- *Search Categories* New Religious Movement; Anthropological --- *Topic Spoiler* Amish (Anabaptist origins) --- *Further Reading* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Ammann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Brethren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menno_Simons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_poverty_and_wealth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_initiation_rites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_purification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_rebellion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Matthys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Leiden https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anabaptists https://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/appendix-b-classification-of-protestant-denominations/ https://ideaexchange.uakron.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1030&context=amishstudies https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-Baptist-and-an-Anabaptist https://oxfordre.com/religion/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199340378.001.0001/acrefore-9780199340378-e-416?mediaType=Article https://cornishbirdblog.com/fenton-bebilbell-cornwalls-well-of-the-little-people/ https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-48-prophets-of-doom/ --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Every November comes with a kaleidoscope of changing leaves, the aroma of pumpkin spice, and doesn't come with other things. Kayla goes hard on a nutty topic and comes up with some deep insights and penetrating analysis. --- *Search Categories* Internet Culture; Common Interest/Fandom; Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* No Nut November (and NoFap) --- *Further Reading* https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/no-nut-november https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bicboi6969696969 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=No%20Nut%20November https://twitter.com/I_H8THOTS/status/925876275457257472 https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/7akgk7/can_any_man_survive_no_nut_november/ https://twitter.com/BillRatchet/status/926308036976758784 https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7au6n2/what_is_with_no_nut_november/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Nut_November https://www.reddit.com/r/nonutnovember/ http://nonutnovember.org/ https://archive.md/aGLoU#selection-903.0-902.17 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNtS6gTvBHBu5X03MraNi7pIbw51zmB-x9acM8yAoIg/edit https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/no-fap-september-no-fap-months https://link.springer.com/article/10.1631%2Fjzus.2003.0236 https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1125277 https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=127266003 https://www.thedailybeast.com/does-masturbating-make-you-a-sex-addict-what-about-porn-what-about-bondage-even-the-experts-cant-agree https://manofmany.com/lifestyle/sex-dating/science-behind-no-nut-november https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8275519 https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-019-01623-8.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoFap https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2018/11/no-nut-november-insidious-internet-challenge-encouraging-men-not https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/coomer-meme-no-nut-november-nofap-908676/ https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a29689038/no-nut-november/ https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/masturbation-giving-effects-life-changes-reddit-nofap-men-say-it-gave-them-superpowers-a7345466.html --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, banana

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- We must cultivate our garden. Chris gets to talk to a scientist of mammoth significance, clarifying and context-ifying a topic from 4 episodes ago. Special thanks to Nikita Zimov, Director of Pleistocene Park, for his time & insights for this episode! Twitter: https://twitter.com/PleistocenePark --- *Search Categories* Science; Anthropological --- *Topic Spoiler* Interview with Nikita Zimov, Director of Pleistocene Park --- *Further Reading* https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/519000/the-russian-scientists-bringing-back-the-ice-age/ https://pleistocenepark.ru/ https://www.patreon.com/PleistocenePark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_rewilding --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, banana

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- It can poison your soul. Chris and Kayla talk with one of their favorite conspiracy theory/spirituality/cultic studies writer & podcaster - and dive deep into bodily fascism, the yoga community, and what conspiritualists get right. Special thanks to Matthew Remski for his time & (incredibly clarifying) insights for this episode! Twitter: https://twitter.com/matthewremski --- *Search Categories* New Age; Science/Pseudoscience; Internet culture; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory; Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Interview with Matt Remski of the Conspirituality Podcast --- *Further Reading* https://matthewremski.medium.com/what-conspiritualists-and-anti-vaxxers-get-right-3d11551982b7 https://conspirituality.net/ http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/ --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, banana

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- "Separate text from context and all that remains is a con." - Stewart Stafford Kayla takes a break from watching TikToks to give us a bunch of context and info about a pretty weird trend she's noticed on TikTok. --- *Search Categories* New Age; Science/Pseudoscience; Internet culture; Destructive; Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* The Gravoboi Codes --- *Further Reading* https://www.insider.com/tiktok-manifesting-cheat-codes-grabovoi-numbers-trend-dark-past-russia-2021-6 https://www.vocativ.com/world/russia/grigory-grabovoi/index.html https://sports.yahoo.com/tiktok-users-sharing-cheat-codes-160415289.html https://www.manifestandflow.com/blogs/well-lived-lifestyle-blog/how-to-use-grabovoi-numbers https://www.dailydot.com/debug/tiktok-cheat-codes-grabovoy-numbers/ https://www.inputmag.com/features/dr-inna-kanevsky-psychology-professor-fact-checking-tiktok https://studybreaks.com/tvfilm/manifestation-tiktok/ https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/manifesting-tik-tok https://eagleeye.news/17406/feature/manifestation-trends-on-tiktok/ https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/technology/science/the-legend-of-atlantis-has-a-dark-terrible-history/news-story/f1271c561661a8937faafed6e4f6f452 https://bigthink.com/the-present/why-the-nazis-were-obsessed-with-finding-the-lost-city-of-atlantis/ https://www.inputmag.com/features/dr-inna-kanevsky-psychology-professor-fact-checking-tiktok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYL0K8btGcw https://sobesednik.ru/obshchestvo/20200129-grigorij-grabovoj-zayavil-ob-otkrytii-im-sposoba-borby-s-koronavirusom https://pr.grigori-grabovoi.world/index.php/about-grigori-grabovoi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Grabovoi https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/333798-russian-sect-leaders-cheat-codes https://www.tiktok.com/@anilasita/video/6942584355810217221?is_from_webapp=v1&q=grabovoi&t=1633209309131 https://www.tiktok.com/@candicenikeia/video/6936258770649484550?is_from_webapp=v1&q=grabovoi&t=1633209309131 https://www.tiktok.com/@fallonkerri/video/6939274427813219590?is_from_webapp=v1&q=grabovoi&t=1633209309131 https://www.tiktok.com/@girlsgotguts/video/6937314716570094853 --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, Anna Krasner

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again. Chris & Kayla seek an expert to help deliver an update on one of last season's very timely topics. Special thanks to guest Travis View (@travis_view on Twitter) from the QAnonAnonymous podcast for his time and insights for this episode! --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* QAnon, pt 6: update a year later --- *Further Reading* All of our research this episode involved chatting with Mr View, co-host of QAnonAnonymous: www.qanonanonymous.com https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/qanon-anonymous/id1428209307 --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres, Alyssa Ottum >> Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, Anna Krasner

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Small steppes can have Mammoth effects. Chris takes us on a journey to the far reaches of the Earth to find some unintuitive science and some unlikely helpers in the fight to save civilization from our changing climate. Special thanks to guest Caelen from Atlas Pro (https://www.youtube.com/c/AtlasPro1/community) for his time and insights for this episode! --- *Search Categories* Science/Pseudoscience; Anthropological --- *Topic Spoiler* Pleistocene Park --- *Further Reading* https://pleistocenepark.ru/ https://www.patreon.com/PleistocenePark Atlas Pro's Pleistocene Park video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXAirenteRA The documentary "Mammoth": https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/519000/the-russian-scientists-bringing-back-the-ice-age/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipping_points_in_the_climate_system https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-nine-tipping-points-that-could-be-triggered-by-climate-change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-melting-permafrost-is-beginning-to-transform-the-arctic https://www.nwtgeoscience.ca/services/permafrost-thaw-slumps https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/04/pleistocene-park/517779/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rewilding_(conservation_biology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_rewilding https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-30/bold-plan-slow-melt-arctic-permafrost-could-help-reverse-global-warming https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/news-arctic-permafrost-may-thaw-faster-than-expected https://www.cbsnews.com/news/siberia-pleistocene-park-bringing-back-pieces-of-the-ice-age-to-combat-climate-change-60-minutes/ https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2020/12/19/one-russian-scientist-hopes-to-slow-the-thawing-of-the-arctic https://www.newsweek.com/permafrost-preserved-until-2100-horses-reindeer-bison-climate-change-1492939?fbclid=IwAR0dYoAm5F24skXLem8SC6FbaiVwyPos_Ve81MVao-nbHA2rk5INcRRosrA https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/the-wooly-mammoth-lumbers-back-into-view https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/welcome-pleistocene-park-russian-scientists-say-high-chance-cloning-woolly-mammoth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Zimov https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-a-warming-planet/the-answer-to-climate-change-is-organizing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holistic_management_(agriculture) https://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_fight_desertification_and_reverse_climate_change?language=en https://savory.global/ https://blog.ted.com/allan-savorys-how-to-fight-desertification-and-reverse-climate-change-criticisms-updates/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holistic_management_(agriculture) --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres >> Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, Anna Krasner

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- I don't want to believe. I want to know. -Carl Sagan Kayla sciences even harder on the Self Realization Fellowship: their beliefs, their organizational structures & rules, and the veracity of some of Paramahansa Yogananda's claims (don't hold your breath). --- *Search Categories* New Religious Movement; New Age; Science/Pseudoscience; Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Self Realization Fellowship, pt2 --- *Further Reading* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriya_Yoga#cite_note-8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science https://skepticmeditations.com/2015/05/17/can-yogis-stop-their-heart/ https://www.ananda.org/ask/achieving-the-breathless-state-in-meditation/ https://skepticmeditations.com/2015/05/04/evidence-against-breathlessness-and-samadhi/ https://culteducation.com/group/1143-self-realization-fellowship/19193-yogis-movement-still-growing-50-years-after-death-.html https://yogananda.org/monasticorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Realization_Fellowship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramahansa_Yogananda#Biography https://yogananda.org/kriya-yoga-path-of-meditation http://skepticmeditations.com/2015/09/21/cult-charisma-and-convocation/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awake:_The_Life_of_Yogananda https://www.ananda.org/free-inspiration/books/autobiography-of-a-yogi/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBfpWcr_jU https://www.angelfire.com/blues/srfwalrus/ http://www.backupsrfwalrus.com/srfwalrus/p203.ezboard.com/fsrfwalrusfrm24d91b.html?topicID=38.topic https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/srfblacklist/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kriyayoga/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/comments/ehw1ct/srf_is_not_a_cult/ http://www.nhne.com/misc/yogananda.html https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/news/a15245/bikram-choudhury-sex-scandals-in-yoga/ https://yoganandafortheworld.com/introduction-has-srf-lost-its-way/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriyananda#Biography --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres >> Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, Ali Alderson, Anna Krasner

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- There are disciples who seek a guru made in their own image. -Paramahansa Yogananda Kayla enlightens Chris about an influential organization, stretching across America, started by a chain of gurus. --- *Search Categories* New Religious Movement; New Age; Science/Pseudoscience; Anthropological; Alt Medicine/Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Self Realization Fellowship, pt1 --- *Further Reading* http://www.vivekananda.net/PDFBooks/The_Upanishads.pdf http://www.krishna.com/bhagavad-gita-online-versions https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Yoga_sutra_of_Patanjali/nP1MAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriya_Yoga https://www.reddit.com/r/kriyayoga/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahiri_Mahasaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramahansa_Yogananda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Realization_Fellowship https://yogananda.org/ https://culteducation.com/group/1143-self-realization-fellowship.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBfpWcr_jU https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7452 --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen, Zero Serres >> Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, Ali Alderson, Anna Krasner

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Abusive systems rely on guilt, gaslighting, and isolation. You need not be perfect. You are not crazy. And you aren't alone. Chris & Kayla talk to trauma-informed writer & survivor activist, Molly Maeve Eagan (mollymaeve.com), co-author of true crime memoir "Behind Blue Curtains" (https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Blue-Curtains-Survival-Pursuit-ebook/dp/B0925CBPKZ) --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* "Behind Blue Curtains" is the harrowing true memoir of Lizzy Hershberger- her upbringing, abuse, escape, and transcendence from the Swartzentruber Amish community. --- *Further Reading* https://www.lifebehindbluecurtains.com/ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57491159-behind-blue-curtains https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Blue-Curtains-Survival-Pursuit-ebook/dp/B0925CBPKZ https://mollymaeve.com/ https://www.voicesofhope.events/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch https://www.padutchdictionary.com/ https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a30284631/amish-sexual-abuse-incest-me-too/ https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities Our patron & veteran CoJW interview subject, Nancy Carlson, has also recommended: https://www.amazon.com/Tears-Silenced-Childhood-Betrayal-Ultimate-ebook/dp/B07FTQDN38 --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Annika Ramen cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Zero Serres, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, Benjamin Herman, Ali Alderson, Anna Krasner

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- I want to believe... but take this story with a bowl of salt. Chris abducts Kayla's scheduled episode slot to disclose a previously unidentified story... before it's too late. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / fandom --- *Topic Spoiler* Throawaylien --- *Further Reading* https://www.reddit.com/r/Throawaylien/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Throawaylien/comments/nn4usq/resources_and_links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Mack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_conspiracy_theories#Disclosure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_flying_object https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-paralysis https://www.history.com/news/first-alien-abduction-account-barney-betty-hill https://www.history.com/topics/paranormal/history-of-ufos BBC: Pentagon won't rule out aliens in long-awaited UFO report https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-men-in-black-think-aliens-made-your-iphone https://medium.com/on-the-trail-of-the-saucers/what-say-you-sam-harris-who-called-you-details-please-3cebb3d7baa1 https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/4/18632778/ufo-aliens-american-cosmic-diana-pasulka https://newrepublic.com/article/162457/government-embrace-ufos-bad-science https://newrepublic.com/article/158823/tom-delonge-warped-ufo-aliens Project Bluebook 60 Minutes UAP report (this is a PDF) June 25th 2021 UAP Report from Office of Director of National Intelligence download your very own FLIR, GoFast, and Gimbal UAP vids! Highly educational vids from Chris's favorite YouTube futurist & incidental skeptic, Isaac Arthur (channel = SFIA): SFIA: Response and Analysis of Recent UFO Disclosures from the US Military SFIA: What if Aliens are secretly among us SFIA: Whole playlist of "What if aliens are like this?" SFIA: Thinkin' about First Contact --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Anna Krasner cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Zero Serres, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Good or bad, who's to say? Chris & Kayla walk by an interesting building in LA's Chinatown, which turns into a whole full excuse for Chris to talk about history on the cult show again. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological --- *Topic Spoiler* Hop Sing & other Chinese American Tongs --- *Further Reading* https://stopaapihate.org/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/story-group-tracking-anti-asian-hate-incidents-rcna662 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Qing_sentiment https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/i4j3cv/what_are_some_of_the_reasons_for_antiqing/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Lotus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiandihui https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(organized_crime) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chinese_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_(organization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hop_Sing_Tong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_issues_in_Chinatowns#Gangs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chinese_Americans_in_Los_Angeles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Gold_Rush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcontinental_railroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dragon_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia https://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/History/S02%20-%20Early%20Chinese%20Prostitution.htm https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/chinatown-sex-slaves-human-trafficking-san-francisco-history/ http://www.historicplacesla.org/reports/f1f44c90-7a08-4dd4-94d1-d37a5b573139 https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=The_Tongs_of_Chinatown https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=The_Golden_Dragon_Restaurant_Massacre http://www.chineseplayground.com/ https://sanfran.com/where-have-all-the-gangsters-gone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_%22Shrimp_Boy%22_Chow https://www.jstor.org/stable/2767924 http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1259.html History of China Podcast: the Tong Wars of New York's Chinatown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37QdHb9IvE4 National Geographic: Chinatown Mafia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pXIyOwrqo https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/01/25/tongs-strike-out-in-chinatown/ https://archives.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/enter-the-dragon-head/Content?oid=2163615&showFullText=true http://www.mafianj.com/asian/tongs.shtml https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-chinatown-stabbing-20170127-story.html --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Anna Krasner cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Zero Serres, Nancy Carlson

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- It's a societal thing, not a Zumba thing. Kayla finally reveals the shockingly large full extent of Zumba's power and influence. --- *Search Categories* Business; Common Interest / Fandom; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Zumba, part 2 --- *Further Reading* https://www.inc.com/magazine/201212/leigh-buchanan/zumba-fitness-company-of-the-year-2012.html#:~:text=Based%20in%20an%20upscale%20shopping,does%20not%20release%20revenue%20figures. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/world/middleeast/iran-zumba-haram.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumba#Origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beto_P%C3%A9rez#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Perlman https://www.zumba.com/en-US/member-benefits https://www.zumba.com/en-US/trainings/zumbini https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8b9bqs/where_do_things_like_zumba_fit_in/ https://qz.com/1085406/inside-the-cult-of-zumba-a-perfect-world-of-modern-make-believe/ https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Zumba-Fitness-RVW12301369.htm https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/healthy-living/zumba-you-get-fit-they-get-rich-8106992.html https://hubpages.com/health/forum/197282/is-zumba-a-scam https://insurefitness.com/how-to-become-a-zumba-instructor/ https://www.zumba.vacations/pricing/ https://cruisefever.net/zumba-cruise-back-3rd-year-due-high-demand/ https://www.zumba.com/en-US/member-benefits https://zlife.zumba.com/why-dancing-saved-my-life/ https://www.livinglutheran.org/2015/01/zumba-evangelism/ https://www.ministrymatters.com/all/entry/6730/4-bold-leadership-moves-zumba-can-teach-the-church https://www.insideoutwithcourtnaye.org/is-zumba-really-okay-for-christians-weigh-in/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Anna Krasner cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Zero Serres, Nancy Carlson

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Ditch the workout. Join the party. Kayla and Chris dance their way into the beginnings of yet another wellness-based movement. --- *Search Categories* Business; Common Interest / Fandom; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Zumba, part 1 --- *Further Reading* https://www.inc.com/magazine/201212/leigh-buchanan/zumba-fitness-company-of-the-year-2012.html#:~:text=Based%20in%20an%20upscale%20shopping,does%20not%20release%20revenue%20figures. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/world/middleeast/iran-zumba-haram.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumba#Origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beto_P%C3%A9rez#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Perlman https://www.zumba.com/en-US/member-benefits https://www.zumba.com/en-US/trainings/zumbini https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8b9bqs/where_do_things_like_zumba_fit_in/ https://qz.com/1085406/inside-the-cult-of-zumba-a-perfect-world-of-modern-make-believe/ https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Zumba-Fitness-RVW12301369.htm https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/healthy-living/zumba-you-get-fit-they-get-rich-8106992.html https://hubpages.com/health/forum/197282/is-zumba-a-scam https://insurefitness.com/how-to-become-a-zumba-instructor/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Anna Krasner cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Zero Serres

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us. Chris takes us on a journey to a land that is simultaneously far away, yet near, ancient, yet brand new. **many thanks to Zach Mortice (www.zachmortice.com) for lending his energy & insights for this episode!** --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Common Interest/Fandom; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* The Tartarian Empire --- *Further Reading* https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-04-27/inside-architecture-s-wildest-conspiracy-theory http://zachmortice.com/ https://twitter.com/cinemashoebox/status/1339956378912350214 https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/ieg2k0/tartaria_the_supposed_megaempire_of_inner_eurasia/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_architectural_styles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Empire_architecture_in_the_United_States_and_Canada https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=tartaria https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4765 https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many-old-buildings-have-half-buried-windows-Also-I-have-seen-some-old-excavations-that-have-levels-that-are-underground-complete-with-windows-and-doors-Why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Columbian_Exposition https://www.architecture.org/learn/resources/architecture-dictionary/entry/worlds-columbian-exposition-of-1893/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama%E2%80%93Pacific_International_Exposition https://www.desmoinesregister.com/picture-gallery/news/2015/10/02/from-the-archives-historic-photos-of-the-iowa-state-capitol/28360153/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_State_Capitol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer_Building https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_City_Hall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Federal_Building https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartary https://www.historytoday.com/archive/treaty-tilsit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia Henceforth begins the pro-Tartaria literature: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tartarianarchitecture/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CulturalLayer/ https://stolenhistory.org/resources/the-one-world-tartarians-by-james-w-lee.30/ https://www.youtube.com/c/BushwhackingTartariawithBerserkerBear/playlists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_dHMV6umCs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6HFPNdewsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyYyjkdDuws --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Anna Krasner cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton, Zero Serres

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- When you tell people they can't have something it makes them want it more. Kayla takes Chris down the rabbit hole on a topic that's been dubbed "The Supreme Drop for Moms." --- *Search Categories* Business; Internet culture --- *Topic Spoiler* The Nugget couch --- *Further Reading* https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/nugget-couch https://nuggetcomfort.com/pages/faq-product-details https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/what-is-the-nugget-couch-the-cult-favorite-and-controversial-sensation-taking-over-tiktok/ar-BB1cZXrp https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/842720634/nugget-the-easiest-couch-ever https://themodernmindfulmom.com/nugget-after-dark/ https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/02/10254737/nugget-after-dark-tiktok https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-11-10/nugget-comfort-couch-kids-parents-shortage-lottery https://www.liberator.com/wedge.html https://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/trending/comfort-nugget-couch/ https://www.webmd.com/sex/sex-pillow --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Out of an abundance of caution, we are making this podcast. Chris doesn't hesitate to take us on the longest CoJW episode journey yet, into the movement(s) that oppose all that science we set up in the previous episode. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Anthropological; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Antivax & Vaccine Hesitancy --- *Further Reading* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variolation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Advisory_Committee_on_Vaccine_Safety https://www.amazon.com/Anti-vaxxers-How-Challenge-Misinformed-Movement/dp/0262539322 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(20)30227-2/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(19)30092-6/fulltext https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2281-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02671-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-20226-9 great explanation of herd immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_hesitancy https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321207 https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-influence-of-the-anti-vaccine-movement https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2184 https://www.spectrumnews.org/opinion/how-anti-vaccine-activists-are-using-covid-19-to-boost-their-movement/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html https://ftp.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-anti-vaccination-movements https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/all https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6515949/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122668/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5355208/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1200696/ https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/vaccine-hesitancy-escalating-danger-africa https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-most-anti-vaxxer-country-in-the-world-2019-06-19 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/31/covid-france-pandering-to-anti-vaxxers-with-slow-vaccine-rollout https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/global-survey-vaccine-safety-measles-outbreaks https://globalhealth.duke.edu/news/many-faces-vaccine-hesitancy https://hbr.org/2021/01/to-overcome-vaccine-hesitancy-we-need-a-better-patient-experience https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-long-history-of-americas-anti-vaccination-movement https://www.codastory.com/waronscience/history-global-anti-vaxxer-movement/ https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/why-vaccinate/vaccine-decision.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-vaccines-are-dangerous/ https://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/ https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-side-effects-and-adverse-events https://www.healthline.com/health/vaccinations/immunization-complications https://www.npr.org/2021/01/01/952716705/some-health-care-workers-are-hesitant-about-getting-covid-19-vaccines https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/24/948776228/trusted-messengers-trusted-messages-how-to-overcome-vaccine-hesitancy https://www.contagionlive.com/view/misinformation-is-a-public-health-threat-without-easy-cures https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/08/tech/instagram-vaccine-misinformation/index.html https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/vaccines-dna-23andme/589915/ https://jezebel.com/heres-a-fairly-comprehensive-list-of-anti-vaccination-c-1714760128 https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/treat-it-like-terrorism-how-to-stop-anti-vaccine-propaganda_uk_6048a816c5b636ed3377281f https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/topics/adjuvants/Jun_2012/en/ https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/topics/aluminium/statement_112002/en/ https://www.obgproject.com/2017/10/03/aluminum-vaccine-safety-evidence/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/move-over-christopher-shaw-theres-a-new-antivaccine-scientist-in-town/ https://respectfulinsolence.com/2017/09/21/torturing-more-mice-in-the-name-of-antivaccine-pseudoscience-2017-aluminum-edition/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/autism-anti-vax-misinformation-spread-measles-cures https://autisticadvocacy.org/2017/02/autism-and-the-disability-community-the-politics-of-neurodiversity-causation-and-cure/ https://www.newsweek.com/i-have-autism-anti-vaxx-offesive-wakefield-1444538 --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Kelly Smith Upton

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Our greatest responsibility is to be good ancestors. In the first episode of CoJW's third season, Chris sets up the science and history behind a movement that has been in the global conversation lately. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Anthropological; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Vaccine Science & History --- *Further Reading* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variolation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Advisory_Committee_on_Vaccine_Safety https://www.amazon.com/Anti-vaxxers-How-Challenge-Misinformed-Movement/dp/0262539322 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(20)30227-2/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(19)30092-6/fulltext https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2281-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02671-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-20226-9 great explanation of herd immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_hesitancy https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321207 https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-influence-of-the-anti-vaccine-movement https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2184 https://www.spectrumnews.org/opinion/how-anti-vaccine-activists-are-using-covid-19-to-boost-their-movement/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html https://ftp.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-anti-vaccination-movements https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/all https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6515949/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122668/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5355208/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1200696/ https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/vaccine-hesitancy-escalating-danger-africa https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-most-anti-vaxxer-country-in-the-world-2019-06-19 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/31/covid-france-pandering-to-anti-vaxxers-with-slow-vaccine-rollout https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/global-survey-vaccine-safety-measles-outbreaks https://globalhealth.duke.edu/news/many-faces-vaccine-hesitancy https://hbr.org/2021/01/to-overcome-vaccine-hesitancy-we-need-a-better-patient-experience https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-long-history-of-americas-anti-vaccination-movement https://www.codastory.com/waronscience/history-global-anti-vaxxer-movement/ https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/why-vaccinate/vaccine-decision.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-vaccines-are-dangerous/ https://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/ https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-side-effects-and-adverse-events https://www.healthline.com/health/vaccinations/immunization-complications https://www.npr.org/2021/01/01/952716705/some-health-care-workers-are-hesitant-about-getting-covid-19-vaccines https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/24/948776228/trusted-messengers-trusted-messages-how-to-overcome-vaccine-hesitancy https://www.contagionlive.com/view/misinformation-is-a-public-health-threat-without-easy-cures https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/08/tech/instagram-vaccine-misinformation/index.html https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/vaccines-dna-23andme/589915/ https://jezebel.com/heres-a-fairly-comprehensive-list-of-anti-vaccination-c-1714760128 https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/treat-it-like-terrorism-how-to-stop-anti-vaccine-propaganda_uk_6048a816c5b636ed3377281f https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/topics/adjuvants/Jun_2012/en/ https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/topics/aluminium/statement_112002/en/ https://www.obgproject.com/2017/10/03/aluminum-vaccine-safety-evidence/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/move-over-christopher-shaw-theres-a-new-antivaccine-scientist-in-town/ https://respectfulinsolence.com/2017/09/21/torturing-more-mice-in-the-name-of-antivaccine-pseudoscience-2017-aluminum-edition/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander

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Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- It is because of hope that we suffer. It is through hope that we change things. In the fifth and final CoJW-does-QAnon episode, Chris and Kayla cover a few things they haven't yet, tie up some loose ends, and (hopefully) plant a small seed of hope. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* QAnon, pt 5: Tie up & words of resilience --- *Further Reading* https://networkcontagion.us/reports/the-qanon-conspiracy-destroying-families-dividing-communities-undermining-democracy/ https://ctc.usma.edu/the-qanon-conspiracy-theory-a-security-threat-in-the-making/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Punic_War https://www.realmofhistory.com/2016/06/07/10-facts-battle-of-cannae/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wq73/conspirituality-explains-why-the-wellness-world-fell-for-qanon https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/qanon-pastel-antivax-natural-parenting-community-freebirth-1098518/ https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/barbara-marx-hubbard-and-the-evolutionary-leaders-cc827d635bb1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing https://news.psu.edu/story/141191/2009/11/03/research/probing-question-does-brainwashing-exist https://theconversation.com/the-brainwashing-myth-99272 https://theconversation.com/how-to-talk-someone-out-of-a-damaging-cult-68930 https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a34416177/how-to-help-friend-qanon-conspiracy-theories/ https://www.ucf.edu/pegasus/life-after-hate/ https://polarisproject.org/ https://www.missingkids.org/ The "is it a Russian psyop? YOU decide!" link section: https://www.wired.com/story/qanon-deploys-information-warfare-influence-2020-election/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-qanon-russia/russian-backed-organizations-amplifying-qanon-conspiracy-theories-researchers-say-idUSKBN25K13T https://www.ft.com/video/372cac40-0f6f-498b-8c19-7b635142296e https://blog.usejournal.com/qanon-is-propaganda-and-we-know-whos-responsible-faa133fb6acd --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- People are hurting. In the fourth installment of Cult or Just Weird's QAnon deep dive, we hear from real people whose lives and loved ones have been affected by the grip of the online conspiracy. Content warning for this episode: emotional/interpersonal trauma. Special thanks to reddit community members from QAnon Casualties, and to ex-Q Jitarth Jadeja (https://twitter.com/JitarthJadeja) for sitting down with Chris this episode and sharing their insights and very personal stories. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* QAnon, pt 4: Affected friends, family, and ex-members --- *Further Reading* https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ReQovery/ https://www.patreon.com/cultorjustweird (for full length interviews & transcripts with QAnonCasualties folks) https://www.dailydot.com/debug/reddit-qanon-casualties/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/23/qanon-conspiracy-theories-loved-ones https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/qanon-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-breitbart-us-election-b742607.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/tech/qanon-believer-how-he-got-out/index.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/24/qanon-believer-conspiracy-theory/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/ex-qanon-followers-cult-conspiracy-theory-pizzagate-1064076/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/10/23/fell-terrifying-conspiracy-theory-wormhole-youtube/ https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2020/10/02/qanon-casualties-conspiracy-theory the following two links are good starting points for understanding more about the 2016 DNC Email situation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16599036/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-sanders Jitarth's "You guys were right" reddit post: https://old.reddit.com/r/Qult_Headquarters/comments/c045jw/you_guys_were_right/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1970605/ (sorry, we had to... it came up in the interview!) --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- This Is Not A Game. In part three of the five part COJW series on QAnon, Chris takes a hard look at the human psychology behind game mechanics, and what makes QAnon research so engaging. Special thanks to ARG game designer & Zombies Run! creator Adrian Hon (https://twitter.com/adrianhon) for sitting down with Chris this episode and sharing his thoughts on QAnon and game design! --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* QAnon, pt 3: QAnon as alternate reality game --- *Further Reading* https://mssv.net/2020/08/02/what-args-can-teach-us-about-qanon/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternate_reality_games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alternate_reality_games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(game) https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/07/qanon-isnt-just-conspiracy-theory-its-highly-effective-game/ https://www.wired.com/story/qanon-most-dangerous-multiplatform-game/ https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5 https://www.axios.com/qanon-video-game-cbbacb1e-969c-4f07-93cd-69e41bc6feeb.html https://danhon.substack.com/p/qanon-looks-like-an-alternate-reality https://limn.it/articles/the-illicit-aura-of-information/ https://reallifemag.com/the-apophenic-machine/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistolary_novel --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Are you awake yet? In part two of CoJW's five part series on QAnon, Kayla gets into the nitty gritty mechanics of how it got going and where it's at now. Special thanks to conspiracy researcher Mike Rothschild (https://twitter.com/rothschildmd) for sharing his insights with CoJW this episode! --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* QAnon, pt2: how it got started --- *Further Reading* https://www.axios.com/poll-qanon-americans-belief-growing-2a2d2a55-38a7-4b2a-a1b6-2685a956feef.html https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/09/reddit-qanon-ban-evasion-policy-moderation-facebook/616442/ https://www.bbc.com/news/53498434 https://www.salon.com/2020/09/07/decoding-qanon-from-pizzagate-to-kanye-to-marina-abramovic-this-conspiracy-covers-everything/ https://www.npr.org/2020/08/20/904237192/journalist-enters-the-world-of-qanon-it-s-almost-like-a-bad-spy-novel https://www.reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/comments/gksrvm/comprehensive_list_of_significant_qanon_related/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/qanon-trump-timeline-conspiracy-theorists-1076279/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/qanon-violence-crimes-timeline https://slate.com/technology/2020/11/qanon-election-trump-8kun.html https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/08/q-clearance-patriot.jpg https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/08/21/qanon-2020-election/ https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/qanon-republican-party-congress.html https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Do you know how long this has been going on? In part one of a five part series, Kayla and Chris tackle a zeitgeisty topic that they've been ruminating on for a while. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory --- *Topic Spoiler* QAnon, pt1: history & context --- *Further Reading* https://newrepublic.com/article/159529/qanon-blood-libel-satanic-panic?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tnr_daily https://www.publicmedievalist.com/pizzagate-cults/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-10-16/why-do-conspiracy-theories-about-pedophilia-hold-such-sway-with-some-conservatives https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a51268/what-is-pizzagate/ https://www.baltimoresun.com/consumer-reviews/sns-nyt-pizzagate-justin-bieber-qanon-tiktok-20200702-2o3n632ynjcjdewyyhizfjlmgq-story.html https://time.com/4590255/pizzagate-fake-news-what-to-know/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#cite_note-goliszek-170-171-136 --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Teach the controversy. Chris foolishly dives headfirst into the most controversial debate of the internet age. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture --- *Topic Spoiler* The war on how to pronounce GIF --- *Further Reading* https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/brief-history-gif-early-internet-innovation-ubiquitous-relic-180963543/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym https://abbreviations.yourdictionary.com/articles/common-accronyms.html https://abbreviations.yourdictionary.com/reference/abbreviations/what-is-an-initialism.html https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/33532/when-did-the-use-of-acronyms-begin https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/5lium9/whats_the_history_of_acronyms/ https://forward.com/culture/326379/the-true-history-of-the-dreidel/ https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/gif https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/GIF http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com/ http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/ https://jemully.com/gif-pronunciation-hard-g-logic-doesnt-rule/ https://medium.com/@NoTrailScriber/my-irrefutable-three-point-platform-and-final-word-on-gif-pronunciation-d6289b975f3c https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/02/25/how-do-you-say-gif-properly-ask-giphy-jif/4750684002/ https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/tech/web/pronounce-gif/index.html https://www.newsweek.com/100-percent-wrong-pronunciation-gif-483374 https://gizmodo.com/how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-gif-anyway-5749451 https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/pronounce-gif-article-1.3007037 https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2016/07/25/you-may-be-wrong-on-pronunciation-of-gif/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/05/its-time-stop-arguing-about-pronunciation-gif/315017/ https://www.languagejones.com/blog-1/2017/7/1/a-linguists-take-on-the-great-gif-controversy https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/551894/how-do-linguists-pronounce-gif https://mcdowlinguist.github.io/2020/08/31/gif-pronunciation.html --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- May we live long and die out. Kayla discovers a group that exists to cease. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Common interest / Fandom --- *Topic Spoiler* the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement --- *Further Reading* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Euthanasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_First! http://www.vhemt.org/ https://grist.org/article/2010-07-15-want-to-join-the-voluntary-human-extinction-movement/ https://onezero.medium.com/may-we-live-long-and-die-out-6d8688a4b0a3 https://theoutline.com/post/8632/voluntary-human-extinction-movement-death-drive-climate-change?zd=1&zi=qwa3p5ku https://www.facebook.com/The-Voluntary-Human-Extinction-Movement-VHEMT-158547474186448/ https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jan/10/i-campaign-for-the-extinction-of-the-human-race-les-knight https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement https://www.inverse.com/article/14056-the-voluntary-human-extinction-movement-is-both-anti-republican-and-anti-death https://listverse.com/2016/06/23/10-extreme-ways-countries-have-tried-to-control-birth-rates/ http://www.vhemt.org/biobreed.htm https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/8/20/20802413/overpopulation-demographic-transition-population-explained https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-that-the-world-is-facing-a-population-crisis/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- We hit a mother lode of madness. Chris complains to Kayla about some extremely weird ads he's been getting on YouTube lately. --- *Search Categories* New Age; Science / Pseudoscience; Business; Destructive; Conspiracy Theory; Alt Medicine --- *Topic Spoiler* Gaia Streaming Service --- *Further Reading* https://www.reddit.com/r/CommercialsIHate/comments/fkrd3s/the_stupid_gaiacom_ads_on_youtube/ https://www.gaia.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia,_Inc. https://medium.com/money-clip/gaia-the-craziest-streaming-service-or-the-most-dangerous-7a80391a9473 https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Gaia-Reviews-E1101975.htm https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/comments/9i82ni/gaia_seems_to_pose_on_the_surface_as_a/ https://adparlor.com/blog/gaia-case-study/ https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/GAIA https://www.facebook.com/Gaia https://www.inc.com/magazine/19951201/2511.html https://ir.gaia.com/sec-filings/annual-reports##document-3404-0001564590-20-006072-1 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gaiam-completes-branded-business-sale-120000536.html --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Science is about questions. Self help is about answers. Kayla and Chris take a bite out of a meaty topic. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Business; Destructive; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* The Lion Diet --- *Further Reading* https://shawn-baker.com/about/ https://meatrx.com/ https://www.gofundme.com/f/carnivore-research?utm_source=widget&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Carnivore_Diet.html?id=T3C9DwAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description https://theswaddle.com/meat-and-masculinity-the-tired-trope-that-wont-go-away/ https://www.thecut.com/2018/08/jordan-peterson-carnivore-diet-mikhaila-meat.html https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/ https://www.paleofx.com/top-5-things-i-learned-from-mikhaila-petersons-carnivore-diet/ https://carnivoresworld.com/lion-diet/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemlee/jordan-peterson-daughter-mikhaila-meat-carnivore-diet https://www.patreon.com/mikhailapeterson/creators https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E971572453225844736%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeednews.com%2Farticle%2Fstephaniemlee%2Fjordan-peterson-daughter-mikhaila-meat-carnivore-diet https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/sep/10/my-carnivore-diet-jordan-peterson-beef https://nypost.com/2020/08/21/james-blunt-got-scurvy-after-going-on-all-meat-diet/ https://theswaddle.com/meat-and-masculinity-the-tired-trope-that-wont-go-away/ https://nationalpost.com/news/the-doctors-here-have-the-guts-to-medically-detox-someone-mikhaila-peterson-on-her-fathers-condition https://spectator.us/trouble-carnivore-diet-mikhaila-peterson/ https://web.archive.org/web/20191024160312/https://ourlionslair.com/home https://www.youtube.com/c/MikhailaPetersonvideos/videos https://mikhailapeterson.com/lyme-disease-are-you-kidding-me/ https://mikhailapeterson.com/donteatthat/ https://mikhailapeterson.com/ https://twitter.com/SBakerMD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://www.facebook.com/groups/478747492969721/ https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis/status/1183068229675159553 https://www.instagram.com/mikhailapeterson/ https://www.dmarge.com/2020/01/carnivore-diet-health-impacts.html --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- May you have the courage to change the things you can, the serenity to accept the things you can't, and the wisdom to know the difference. Chris & Kayla go deeper down the rabbit hole of the Twin Flames Universe, with some former members to help them with the whole wisdom thing. --- *Search Categories* New Age; Business; Internet Culture; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* Twin Flames Universe, pt2 --- *Further Reading* https://twinflamesuniverse.com/ https://www.thelawofattraction.com/twin-flames/ https://thefaiththatgrows.com/to-all-those-who-believe-twin-flames-universe-is-a-cult/ https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/v747x4/this-youtube-school-promised-true-love-students-say-they-got-exploited-instead https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/ohmystars/2019/08/escaping-twin-flame-cult.html https://medium.com/@onenesslove7/following-my-heart-out-of-a-twin-flame-cult-cf25ab24529f Dragon Heart on Youtube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence https://www.huffpost.com/entry/limerence_b_1627089 --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Do you believe in True Love? Chris and Kayla talk about soulmates. Well, a particularly "fiery" new age version of them. A version which has the potential to be problematic, and may even provide the foundation for a cult... --- *Search Categories* New Age; Business; Internet Culture; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* Twin Flames Universe --- *Further Reading* https://twinflamesuniverse.com/ https://www.thelawofattraction.com/twin-flames/ https://lonerwolf.com/twin-flame/ https://www.goalcast.com/2018/07/19/differences-twin-flame-and-life-partner/ https://www.allure.com/story/what-is-a-twin-flame https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a28609253/twin-flame-signs/ https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/v747x4/this-youtube-school-promised-true-love-students-say-they-got-exploited-instead https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/akwy58/accused-cult-leader-threatened-ex-members-after-vice-investigation https://www.reddit.com/user/imagine1111/comments/ae14c2/beware_twin_flames_universe_jeff_and_shaleia_cult/ Jeff & Shaleia: How to "Scientifically" prove Twin Flames exist Jeff & Shaleia: Top 10 reasons why people quit their Twin Flame union quest Jeff rants about the Vice articles Jeff rants about being compared to a cult --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Your call may be monitored for ghostly assurance purposes. Turns out Kayla was holding back on the juiciest bits of the Afterlife Sciences story last episode... --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Business --- *Topic Spoiler* The Soul Phone --- *Further Reading* https://www.thesoulphonefoundation.org/ https://neurology.arizona.edu/gary-e-schwartz-phd https://lach.arizona.edu/veritas https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gary_Schwartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Schwartz#cite_note-6 http://www.foreverfamilyfoundation.org/site/contact https://opensciences.org/about/advisors http://www.eternea.org/mgmt_and_staff.aspx https://web.archive.org/web/20021230130607/http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/experiments/mental/schwartz03.htm http://www.jewishaz.com/religiouslife/feature/can-soul-phone-dial-up-the-afterlife/article_0c0d70b6-eea9-11e4-ad59-87295488355d.html https://www.soulproof.com/about/ http://www.greaterrealityliving.com/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- The trouble with quotes about death is that 99.9% of them are made by people who are still alive. -Joshua Burns Kayla and Chris get spiritual, contemplate unknowable questions of existence, and become disappointed in an "academic" ... again. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience --- *Topic Spoiler* Afterlife Science --- *Further Reading* https://lach.arizona.edu/veritas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Afterlife_Experiments https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gary_Schwartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Schwartz#cite_note-6 https://afterlife101.com/HESL.html https://neurology.arizona.edu/gary-e-schwartz-phd http://www.foreverfamilyfoundation.org/site/contact https://www.drgaryschwartz.com/about https://web.archive.org/web/20021230130607/http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/experiments/mental/schwartz03.htm https://johnedwardpsychic.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/the-afterlife-experiments-the-testing-of-john-edward/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_DuBois#Criticism --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- "A good traveler is one who who does not know where he is going to, and a perfect traveler does not know where he came from." -Lin Yutang Kayla & Chris travel the road of a surprisingly spiritual topic as they dig into one of the hidden treasures of the internet. --- *Search Categories* Internet culture --- *Topic Spoiler* Your World of Text / The Line --- *Further Reading* YWOT: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/cultorjustweird (we made our own!) https://yourworldoftext.fandom.com/wiki/Your_World_Of_Text_Wiki https://www.yourworldoftext.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Textworldexplorers/ https://www.yourworldoftext.com/msernst https://andrewbadr.com/yourworld/ https://www.reddit.com/r/YWOT/ https://www.reddit.com/r/YourWorldOfText/ https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Textworldexplorers/comments/ut7zp/the_line_of_enlightment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ussxr/hey_reddit_whats_the_best_hidden_thing_you_have/c4y9or0/ https://imgur.com/YB5Rf https://imgur.com/EiM3Y WP4BL/SURJ: https://www.awarela.org/white-people-4-black-lives https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- LOOK. DEEPER. Chris & Kayla follow up on an interesting lead to a former cult-or-just-weird member. And this interview turns up some surprising and creepy nuggets of new information... Special thanks to the Recovering Hunbot for being on the show! --- *Search Categories* Business; MLM; Destructive; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Team Beachbody --- *Further Reading* https://www.teambeachbody.com/ https://mlmtruth.org/2018/11/28/what-about-team-beachbody/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurengensler/2018/04/10/beachbody-carl-daikeler-shakeology/#533df21e7960 https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/news/a43612/team-beachbody-facebook/ https://perfectionhangover.com/why-i-quit-beachbody-coaching/ https://mlm.com/ http://www.mlmia.com/ The Sheffield Group - https://www.sheffieldnet.com/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Cult or Just Weird revisits a topic from Season 1... this time, with a friend or two. Chris & Kayla interview one of the subjects of conversation from CoJW's season one Tulpa episodes (13 & 14). --- *Search Categories* Internet culture; Common interest / Fandom --- *Topic Spoiler* Interview with Nycto (tulpamancer) and Siouxsie (tulpa) --- *Further Reading* https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/ https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892 --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- If you look, it's already too late. Chris & Kayla talk about a topic that some believe is dangerous merely by knowing about it. Content Warning: existential dread --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Internet culture; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* Roko's Basilisk --- *Further Reading* https://www.nickbostrom.com/information-hazards.pdf https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://slate.com/technology/2014/07/rokos-basilisk-the-most-terrifying-thought-experiment-of-all-time.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk# https://www.lastwordonnothing.com/2018/04/24/whos-afraid-of-rokos-basilisk/ https://orbitermag.com/sinners-in-the-hands-of-an-angry-artificial-intelligence/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Did you know the human body can go for 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, and 14 days without Cult or Just Weird? Chris and Kayla get into the meat of the topic and ruminate on the question of whether intermittent fasting is a... well, you know. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Intermittent Fasting, pt2 --- *Further Reading* https://www.abbeyskitchen.com/intermittent-fasting-weight-loss-evidence-based-pros-cons/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-ways-to-do-intermittent-fasting https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/the-age-old-tradition-fasting-is-now-making-a-big-comeback/articleshow/67505162.cms?from=mdr https://raseef22.com/article/1070152-fasting-custom-became-form-worship https://www.encyclopedia.com/philosophy-and-religion/other-religious-beliefs-and-general-terms/religion-general/fasting https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3740951/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2999843/ https://www.alimentarium.org/en/knowledge/voluntary-fasting https://books.google.com/books?id=oY0UDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA150&lpg=PA150&dq=western+esotericism+and+fasting&source=bl&ots=cNMM4eOJ48&sig=ACfU3U1rShrFjWNnKl-b62qqJH7gT5nO6Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiAur_F4__oAhVOlKwKHUepDTQQ6AEwCXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=western%20esotericism%20and%20fasting&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=KpvqhORGQe4C&pg=PT85&lpg=PT85&dq=western+esotericism+and+fasting&source=bl&ots=mCGK3-M4sx&sig=ACfU3U0A9HZizlQvBd9Tnt2zTaF6Q3JpjA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiAur_F4__oAhVOlKwKHUepDTQQ6AEwDHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=western%20esotericism%20and%20fasting&f=false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_esotericism#Later_20th_century https://www.swordofthespirit.net/spiritual-meaning-fasting/ https://amybeldingbrown.wordpress.com/2016/11/28/feasting-and-fasting-in-puritan-new-england/ https://www.medievalists.net/2019/11/why-people-medieval-were-fasting-on-fridays/ https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/think-lent-tough-take-look-medieval-lenten-practices https://www.alimentarium.org/en/knowledge/fasting-hinduism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sannyasa https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4dmoPK1tYNjRE8xT0xfV2hNVGs/edit https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/not-so-fast-pros-and-cons-of-the-newest-diet-trend https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/doctor-who-starved-her-patients-death-180953158/ --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Nothing tastes as good as addressing a broken system feels. Chris and Kayla take a bite out of a topic that's been eating at Kayla since they started this show. **content warning: If dieting and eating disorder related content isn't for you, please consider skipping this episode. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Diet Culture Primer --- *Further Reading* https://anad.org/ https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/clean-eating/faq-20336262 https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/diet-nutrition/a37595/what-is-clean-eating/ https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/884kq4/your-fancy-honey-might-not-actually-be-honey https://emilyprogram.com/blog/does-extreme-dieting-lead-to-eating-disorders/ https://haescommunity.com/ https://lindobacon.com/body-respect-book/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/04/why-diets-dont-actually-work-according-to-a-researcher-who-has-studied-them-for-decades/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_processing --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- "You cannot save people. You can only love them." -Anais Nin Welcome to Cult or Just Weird... SEASON 2. In this episode Chris and Kayla talk about the importance of expertise, and about what happens when the cult is coming from inside the house. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Destructive --- *Topic Spoiler* Cult Awareness Network & Cult Deprogramming --- *Further Reading* "Cult" resource groups https://www.icsahome.com/ http://cultresearch.org/ https://culteducation.com/ http://www.cultexperts.org/ (check out their "Buyer Beware" section...) CAN & Deprogramming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprogramming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Patrick A few nodes in the trust network to help you check your assumptions about all of this "The Brainwashing Myth" on theconversation.com "Do you Believe in Brainwashing?" on The Guardian "Brainwashing & Deprogramming are equally mythological" on Skeptoid --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Awards shows are rituals of indulgent, narcissistic filler. It's the CoJW season one finale! Chris & Kayla revisit cults and weirds from all season to bestow some very prestigious and not at all fake awards. --- *Search Categories* Popular Episode --- *Topic Spoiler* Cult or Just Weird Season 1 recap --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- Yeah I get confused, that's the human in me. I reason that shit out, that's the science in me. Chris & Kayla tap into their trust network to find experts to help navigate the tricky & complicated topic of epigenetics... and the tricky & complicated world of those who would abuse public misunderstanding of it. Special thanks to Dr. Gorski of https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ and https://respectfulinsolence.com/ for being on the show. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Business; MLM; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Ben Lynch & SeekingHealth, pt2 --- *Further Reading* Beware those that say they know the "One True Cause" of all disease What Gizmodo has to say about the nascent genetic pseudoscience craze What Forbes has to say about the nascent genetic pseudoscience craze What 23andme has to say about MTHFR (opening quote: "the MTHFR gene is the most asked-about gene by 23andMe customers.") Ben Lynch's bio has some really fun nuggets Naturopathy is 99.9% bullshit, but here's what the other .1% can tell us SciShow on YouTube tells us that there are actually a few supplements that do more than give you expensive pee! --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney

Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord! --- We just took a DNA test, turns out... To set the stage for the next cult-or-just-weird in question, Chris & Kayla dig into some very cool molecular biology. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Business; MLM; Alt Medicine / Wellness --- *Topic Spoiler* Ben Lynch, SeekingHealth, & MTHFR --- *Further Reading* Want to know a bit more about genetics? The "Central Dogma of Molecular Biology" (warning: gets pretty technical) NIH explanation of non-coding DNA (better name than "junk DNA") ...UNpronounceable --- *Patreon Credits* initiates: Michaela Evans cultists: Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Alyssa Ottum, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney