Crime and Coffee Couple - True Crime Podcast

Skip the banter: 00:10:10The disappearance of Karyn Slover quickly turned into a complex investigation marked by conflicting timelines, disputed forensic findings, and questions about how evidence was handled from the very beginning. Decades after convictions were secured, new DNA developments are forcing authorities to revisit what was once considered resolved. Allison brings clarity to the investigative details and the procedural decisions that still leave room for uncertainty.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://amzn.to/48mohHX All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:06:33On Halloween night in 2015, Cathy Scott, Mike Scott, Barbara Scott, and Violet Taylor were murdered inside their home in rural Pendleton, South Carolina, and the case sat cold for over eight years. The evidence that finally cracked it open was hiding in plain sight the whole time. Allison tells us the rest, and the financial paper trail alone will leave you unsettled.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://amzn.to/48mohHX All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:06:47 (give or take a min depending on ads)Mandy Matula left her house for what seemed like a brief conversation, but the details surrounding that night quickly became complicated. Small contradictions and unexpected actions forced investigators to reconsider the story they were first given. Allison lays out the sequence of decisions and statements that still leave parts of this case unsettled.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://amzn.to/48mohHX All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:05:44Long before the shooting in Winnetka, there were police calls, medical notes, and repeated concerns from people who felt something was wrong. Each response addressed the immediate problem, but none seemed to connect the larger pattern that was forming. Allison walks through the documentation step by step, highlighting the detail that makes the timeline feel harder to dismiss.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://amzn.to/48mohHX All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:08:26 (give or take a min depending on ads)A man claims he shot an intruder who was attacking his wife, but the circumstances surrounding how that stranger ended up inside the house quickly draw scrutiny. As investigators examine messages, timelines, and the people living under the same roof, the explanation offered that morning becomes harder to accept. Allison lays out the sequence of events and the detail that made detectives start looking at the case in a completely different way.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://amzn.to/48mohHX All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:08:27 Give or take a min for adsWhen Toyah Cordingley went to walk her dog at Wangetti Beach in 2018, it should have been an ordinary afternoon. Instead, investigators were left piecing together phone records, traffic footage, and movements that didn’t fully line up with what anyone expected. Allison tells the story of how the evidence unfolded and the detail that continued to raise questions about what happened on that beach.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://amzn.to/48mohHX All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: around 00:09:14 depending on adsWhen Army Private LaVena Johnson was found dead in Iraq, her family was told it was a suicide. What they uncovered in the weeks and years that followed raised difficult questions about the investigation, the evidence, and whether key details were overlooked. Allison carefully lays out what was documented, what was missing, and why her parents continue to challenge the Army’s conclusion.Kettle Mike mentioned: https://amzn.to/4aZVECzSupport us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:10:20When Timmothy Pitzen’s mother picked him up early from school in 2011, she said there was a family emergency, then spent several days traveling with him before being found dead in a motel room. She insisted in a note that her son was safe and would never be located, but the evidence investigators uncovered tells a more complicated story. Allison carefully traces those final movements and the details that still shape how his family understands the silence that followed.Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecoupleOur Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc):https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes:www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.Reminder:Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouplePodcast Intro and Outro music:Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.comCreative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:09:08 (give or take a minute depending on ads) James Bulger disappeared from a shopping center in Bootle in February 1993, and the case unfolded through CCTV, witness statements, and a growing realization that the usual assumptions did not apply. We walk through the moments that were missed in public, the inconsistencies in what people thought they saw, and what the investigation and trial later made clear while still leaving key questions unanswered. Allison guides the story carefully, grounding it in the details that shaped how this case was understood then and how it is argued about now. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:07:41 (give or take a minute depending on ads) In May 2019, 15-year-old Riley Crossman disappeared from her home in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia, sometime during an ordinary school night. What followed was a series of quiet red flags, overlooked moments, and conflicting statements that only became clear after Riley failed to show up for school. This episode closely examines the timeline inside the house, the unanswered texts, and the decisions that shaped the first critical hours of the investigation. Certain details did not line up from the very beginning, but it took time for anyone to understand why. Allison carefully walks through what was known, what was missed, and the detail that still raises the hardest questions. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:07:41 In 2014, Russell and Shirley Dermond were living out their retirement in a quiet lakeside community—until neighbors made a discovery that would shake the entire area. What followed was a case marked by contradictions, clean surfaces, and missing evidence. Allison brings the full context, including one detail that was easy to miss at the time. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:07:23 In the summer of 2017, four young men disappeared days apart across Bucks County. As families scrambled for answers, investigators uncovered a link none of them had expected. Allison walks us through the timeline, the search efforts, and the detail that finally brought the cases together. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:10:23 Over three years, four couples were attacked along quiet stretches of Virginia road, their cases marked by eerie patterns and evidence that pointed in unsettling directions. Only one case would eventually yield a name. Allison tells us the rest of this crazy case. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:07:49 A family outing at Devil’s Den ended in unimaginable violence, with two parents killed on a quiet trail while their children ran for help. The manhunt that followed raised troubling questions about who we trust and how systems fail to connect the dots. Allison brings the full context, including one detail that was easy to miss at the time. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:09:27 When a 71-year-old father vanishes, the focus turns almost immediately to the person who reported him missing. This episode looks closely at how suspicion formed, how pressure was applied, and what happens when investigators become convinced too early. Allison brings the research and context that reveals the part of the story that was easiest to overlook. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Skip the banter: 00:07:33 Josh Hilberling was trying to leave. At 6'5", the former Air Force serviceman didn’t fit the usual image of a domestic violence victim, but court records, hospital visits, and a dismissed protective order all pointed to a volatile and escalating pattern of abuse in his young marriage. On a sweltering afternoon in Tulsa, everything came to a violent end when Josh fell 17 stories from a high-rise apartment window. His wife Amber admitted to pushing him, though whether it was self-defense or murder remains fiercely debated. Allison tells us the rest of this story that leaves one boy with no parents and two families forever asking what was really going on behind closed doors. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8 Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget! If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode! If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;) Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know. Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.