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Episode #45 – Consumerism in Healthcare with Kevan Mabbutt

Consumerism – the promotion of consumers’ perspectives & interests – is one of the hottest & rapidly emerging topics in healthcare today. Whether you’re a large healthcare delivery network, hospital system, surgical center, or ambulatory practice – if you’re interested in patient growth and retention, or in optimizing the experience & outcomes of care – you should be very interested in improving your approach to consumerism. Many factors have contributed to the rapid rise of consumerism in healthcare. First, patients are being presented with an increasing array of care choices. Second, patients are footing a greater percentage of their healthcare bills. Third, people are now used to sophisticated, easy, and elegant customer interactions in other aspects of their lives; and are bringing these expectations to bear on their healthcare experience. And, they’re increasingly voting with their feet and their wallets. The problem is that while there are lots of opinions; there’s not a whole lot of expertise or experience in healthcare consumerism. Our guest today is the most experienced and accomplished consumer-oriented expert I’ve encountered in healthcare to date. He’s also a delightful, engaging and humble human being. Kevan Mabbutt joined Intermountain Health last year as their Chief Consumer Officer bringing over 25 years of experience in this field. Prior to joining Intermountain, Mr Mabbutt served as the Global Head of Consumer Insight at Walt Disney. In this role, he led consumer experience development and transformation for Disney’s theme park, cruise line, resort, retail, and digital assets in the U.S., Europe, and Asia. He was instrumental in defining and optimizing the guest experience at Disney’s first theme park in mainland China (Shanghai Disney Resort). He also helped drive the expansion of Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars brands globally. In this interview Kevan shares his profound thoughts on the context of consumerism in healthcare. What you’ll hear includes: How Disney understands consumer-centrism, and how different that perspective is from how we, in healthcare, consider consumerism. Kevan’s own understanding of consumerism as a deeply humanistic and empathetic endeavour. The need for consumerism to be inclusive of providers as much as patients, and the reason that’s critically important. A fundamental reorientation of “value” as being defined by the consumer’s subjective experience – whether it be outcomes or affordability, or any other aspect of healthcare. Some of the challenges that Kevan has encountered in introducing a consumerist mindset into healthcare, and his strong caution that we not equate consumerism with digital technology. This is one of the most exciting and enlightening interviews I’ve had the pleasure of hosting. If there is a must-do in healthcare, it’s this. As Kevan puts it – consumerism is not a part of the chain; it impacts the entire chain of healthcare delivery. It’s about redefining the core strength and critical element of every link of that chain as being implicitly about value, as defined by the consumer. This will require us to adapt and integrate aspects of consumerism such as human-centered design & personalization, segmentation & customization, transparency, and engagement at a system-wide level – if we aspire to be fully successful in the value-based transformation of healthcare delivery. Get ready to be challenged and inspired by the notions of consumerism that Kevan Mabbutt brings from his unique experiences at Disney and his 25 years as a leading authority and highly accomplished executive in consumer insights. Zeev Neuwirth, MD

Sep 12, 20181h 5m

Reflections on Year 1 of Healthcare Podcasting – Creating a New Healthcare

Friends & Colleagues, After interviewing more than 50 insightful, courageous and accomplished leaders who are literally creating a new healthcare, we are going to turn the tables in this podcast episode. In this episode, I’ve placed myself in the hot seat, and will be interviewed about my reflections from this first year of podcasting, as well as future plans & directions for the series. At less than 15 minutes, it is much shorter than my usual podcast, and will provide you with insights into what I do, why I do it, and how you can get more involved! Here are some of the questions I answer in this episode: What were your expectations and have they been met? What makes this podcast different from other healthcare podcasts/newscasts? What were some surprises you encountered? What are you planning for in the 2nd year of podcasting? Who are 2 or 3 people you would like to interview? What one request do you have of listeners? So, please take a listen! My hope is that you’ll be inspired by what you hear. I sincerely appreciate your continued support and encourage you to invite others to subscribe to ‘Creating a New Healthcare’. This work – to transform healthcare – is so critically important to all of us! Looking forward to an exciting new season beginning in mid-September. Until then, Be well! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

Aug 29, 201813 min

A New ‘True North’ – An Economist’s Perspective on Healthcare Costs and Spending

For anyone who doesn’t appreciate the critical importance of healthcare economics in the U.S., consider this: The average price for health insurance in the U.S. for a family of four is $18,500 per year. This is the equivalent of each American family purchasing a car every year. Healthcare currently makes up nearly 20% of the U.S. GDP; and numerous studies have suggested that nearly one-third of that spend is unnecessary, wasteful and even harmful. Given the unfettered rise in healthcare spending, it’s been estimated that Millennials will conservatively spend somewhere between 50 to 75% of their total lifetime earnings paying for healthcare. These staggering statistics give you a sense of the important role that healthcare economists can play in determining the future of our healthcare system, and the future of our economy. Healthcare economists take an objective, data-driven approach to analyzing the issues of healthcare spending and utilization. We’ll discover, in this fascinating interview with a leading healthcare economist, that many beliefs we hold about healthcare spending are based on incomplete data, and therefore erroneous conclusions. Dr. Zack Cooper – our guest on this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, trained at the London School of Economics and is an Associate Professor of Health and of Economics at Yale University. He is one of the rising stars on the healthcare economics scene; and represents the nextgen – trained in the most advanced science, analytics & machine learning that can be applied to healthcare spending, utilization & costs. His publications are regularly featured in the New York Times which wrote of Dr. Cooper’s work that it’s “likely to force a rethinking of some conventional wisdom about healthcare”. In this interview, we’ll cover a broad range of topics including: What healthcare economists actually do & how they influence policies around healthcare delivery & payment. How Dr. Cooper’s ground-breaking research on commercial health insurance completely changes our understanding about regional healthcare utilization & costs. Dr. Cooper’s recent research that challenges our belief that patients can act as informed consumers capable of making price-based decisions, even when they’re provided with straightforward, transparent, comparative pricing. Evidence-based recommendations for redesigning employee health plans. I came away from this from this interview with a newfound and enhanced respect for the role that healthcare economists play in creating a new healthcare. We need their powerful problem-solving methods & advanced analytics to help us decide which problems to solve and how to go about solving them. It’s hard to argue against the notion that healthcare needs a new ‘True North’. Perhaps we should take a closer look at the compass that Professor Cooper and his colleagues are constructing.

Jul 31, 20181h 35m

Community Health Workers – Doing It Right & Getting It Right

Social determinants of health (SDOH) represent the largest set of factors in determining healthcare outcomes & utilization. Despite understanding this, a fundamental problem remains: How to motivate & sustain healthful behavior, especially within communities experiencing profound social and economic obstacles such as unemployment, poverty, food insecurity, isolation, unsafe housing, etc. There is a tremendous amount of effective, innovative effort directed at this challenge. But the current “screen & refer” approaches have limitations. As we’ll discover in this podcast, Community Health Worker programs can overcome these limitations and serve as a keystone program in this domain. Community Health Worker (CHW) programs connect professional and social-service resources with the individuals & communities they are attempting to benefit. It is a unique approach that takes lay individuals from the community and trains them to be a combination of life coach, social worker, and healthcare system liaison. The basic premise relies on the idea that health is social, contextual & communal; and the closer you are to the situation, the more likely you will be to catalyze & sustain behavior change. Like many other good ideas, this one is as much about execution as it is about intention. Unfortunately, despite good intentions, many CHW programs have floundered and failed. To help us understand what is needed to create an effective and sustainable CHW model, we are fortunate to have with us Dr. Shreya Kangovi. Dr. Kangovi and her colleagues have pioneered a rigorous, evidence-based approach to building, deploying and measuring the impact of a CHW program. Dr. Kangovi is the founder & executive director of the Penn Center for Community Health Workers – a national center of excellence dedicated to advancing health in low-income populations through CHW programs. The Penn Center spent seven years creating and refining an exemplary CHW model called IMPaCT (Individualized Management towards Patient-Centered Targets). It’s based on the application of human-centered design principles, implementation science, and robust qualitative & quantitative research methodology. In this episode, we’ll discuss: The scope of services a Community Health Worker (CHW) performs, and what makes them effective. The most critical question each Penn Center CHW client is asked. The evidence-based clinical, economic and humanistic benefits of an effective CHW program. The 5 major pitfalls that have undermined the success of CHW programs in the past, and how to turn them into opportunities for success. The services the Penn Center offers to assist other medical centers in standing up their own CHW program. From my perspective, CHW programs are a critical – but often absent – piece of the healthcare delivery ecosystem. Because they are treated as ‘soft’ programs, they often lack appropriate operational planning, resource allocation, and rigorous management and measurement. The Penn CHW program has set the standard for efficiency and sustainability. It is a masterpiece of fiscal responsibility, operational excellence, evidence-based consumer-oriented design, and system integration. If the rest of healthcare operated this way, we would be in a far better place than we are now! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

Jul 19, 20181h 4m

#41 Standardizing & Systematizing ‘Post-Acute’ Care: The Next Frontier of Healthcare Delivery

Despite the fact that nearly one in five hospitalized patients is discharged to a skilled nursing facility, inpatient rehabilitation service or into a home health care program – the so-called ‘post-acute’ care space remains a largely opaque and overlooked sector of healthcare for most hospital administrators and providers of care. It’s also extremely confusing to patients and their families. Adding to this complexity and confusion is the tremendous unwarranted variation in post-acute care. There is little standardization in how decisions are made as to where patients might be optimally discharged; and there is a staggering amount of harmful and costly variation in how patients are cared for in post-acute care facilities/programs. But, market forces and CMS-driven payments and penalties have recently brought post-acute care front and center for providers and hospital systems; and have also caught the attention of Wall Street investors, and corporations who are making significant R&D investments in this space. These forces are moving things favorably toward a triple-aim vision for post-acute care – great care & outcomes, outstanding experience & cost effectiveness. We are fortunate to have an expert on this episode who can clear some of the mist and misunderstanding shrouding this domain of care. Mr. Andy Edeburn is a Principal with Premier, Inc., with nearly 20 years of healthcare consulting experience specializing in acute, post-acute, and senior care services. Mr. Edeburn is a nationally recognized expert who guides organizations through strategic deployment around acute and post-acute partnerships, new programs, and facility and redevelopment efforts – establishing value-based, outcome-oriented relationships as organizations transition from the fee-for-service environment. In this episode, what you’ll discover includes: The major levers that hospital systems and integrated delivery networks rely upon to positively impact post-acute care. Which set of interventions have proven to be the most powerful in managing post-acute care spending and outcomes. Some insights into the profound disruption that is about to occur in the post-acute care industry due to the impending site-neutral, unified payment that CMS is planning to implement. Which specific area of the post-acute care space has become the darling of Wall Street, as well as the focus of huge investments on the part of vendors such as Phillips and Samsung. The so-called post-acute care space is likely the next frontier of standardization and systematization in healthcare delivery. It seems that few healthcare systems have ventured into this arena with a deliberate, well-resourced, comprehensive program to optimize care. To my mind, post-acute care, or perhaps what might be termed ‘sub-acute’ care, represents one of the most significant opportunities we have to improve care and the care experience for one of the most vulnerable and costly moments in the continuum of healthcare delivery. It is also an opportunity to provide direction to providers, so they can bring both health and dignity to patients and their families who require this level of care. In addition to his broad experience and depth of knowledge, Andy Edeburn – our expert guest and guide in this podcast episode – has the gift of making this highly complex area seem a bit more straightforward and understandable. Andy not only provides us with a better understanding of the problem; he informs us on potential high leverage solutions. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

Jun 28, 20181h 21m

Episode #40 – MintHealth – A Blockchain Tech-Enabled Platform Empowering Consumers to Make Lasting Healthy Behavior Change

The rapidly escalating impact of chronic disease is devastating populations, employers, payers & economies – both in the U.S. and across the globe. The World Health Organization (WHO) projects that, by 2025, chronic disease will make up over 70% of all illness. At the present time, preventable chronic disease is responsible for over 40 million of the 56 million annual deaths worldwide. The WHO has also projected that the global costs of healthcare will more than double between 2015 and 2030 – from $8.4 trillion to $18.3 trillion – with an estimated global productivity loss due to chronic disease, in that time frame, of $47 trillion. This is clearly an unsustainable situation. Our guest this week, Dr. Samir Damani, is trying to solve this problem – of the escalating impact of chronic disease – by using blockchain technology. Dr. Damani brings a depth and breadth to this work by combining his skills as a clinician, researcher, technologist & entrepreneur. He is a board-certified practicing cardiologist with a Masters in Clinical Investigation from the Scripps Research Institute, who also obtained a PharmD from the University of Georgia. In 2011, he founded and served as CEO of ‘MD Revolution’, a technology-enabled service platform for Medicare’s Chronic Care Management program. Dr. Damani’s most recent endeavor is MintHealth, a decentralized healthcare platform designed to engage patients in committing to healthful behaviors – somewhat similar to current loyalty programs. An individual signs up on the MintHealth platform and accumulates tokens (aka ‘purchasing power’) by demonstrating healthful behaviors – anything from listening to educational material, to demonstrating improvements in diabetes, or high blood pressure, or weight. The tokens (called ‘Vidamints’) can be redeemed for healthful products. The blockchain platform facilitates the loyalty campaign, which is typically sponsored by an individual’s employer or insurance company. Dr. Damani and his collaborators envision that Vidamints will become a defacto healthcare campaign currency and program for organizations or government agencies interested in incenting healthful member behaviors. In addition to the incentive program, the MintHealth platform could serve as a secure and portable, cloud-based personal health record, allowing participants to control and direct their own health data. They also intend for the MintHealth platform to serve as a Health Information Exchange (HIE), allowing for the protected and seamless transfer of personal health information amongst numerous healthcare stakeholders. In this episode, we discuss how MintHealth is addressing the following issues: Interoperability – the ability to safely and securely move health data between closed electronic medical record systems. Sustained behavior change – creation of a behavioral economic approach to engage and empower people in their pursuit of healthful behaviors and optimal health outcomes. Self-sovereignty – Providing patients with the ability to control and direct their own health data and records. Economics – Driving down the increasing and unsustainable costs of chronic disease. Dr. Damani and his colleagues are attempting to create a healthcare marketplace that increases healthcare consumers purchasing power through rewarding healthful behaviors and healthy outcomes. They are attempting to solve one of the most significant and challenging healthcare related problems of our era. To listeners of this podcast it will be clear that Dr. Damani is a passionate, persistent and purpose-driven leader who has his eyes set on winning the long game. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev

Jun 15, 201853 min

Episode #39 – A Novel Approach to Harness the Most Powerful Social Determinants of Health

It’s been said that our zip codes impact our health more than our genetic codes. How do the social determinants of health — education, employment, public transportation, safe housing and neighborhoods, access to healthy food… — so profoundly affect healthcare utilization and health outcomes? In this interview, you’ll hear an emerging story of how the leadership of a healthcare system in New Jersey is addressing this issue head-on and going right to the root cause. My remarkable guest, Michellene Davis – a lawyer and policy expert – is the Executive Vice President & Chief Corporate Affairs Officer for RWJBarnabas Health – the largest healthcare system and largest non-profit employer in the state of New Jersey. Ms. Davis has been named as New Jersey’s top healthcare lobbyist and Modern Healthcare recently recognized her with their 2018 Top 25 Most Influential Minorities in Healthcare Award. Key topics and stories we’ll explore in this interview include: RWJBarnabas Health’s rollout of a novel and compelling “anchor” strategy, synergistic with larger economic and cultural revitalization efforts like the ‘Newark 2020 Initiative’ launched by Newark Mayor Ras J. Baraka. The overall approach and major interventions of the ‘Social Impact & Community Investment Practice’ that focus on education, economic stability, neighborhood and built environments, global health and employee engagement & volunteerism. Inspiring stories of local entrepreneurs who are growing successful businesses and enriching the local community as part of the “Hire, Buy, Invest” strategy that Ms. Davis is leading on behalf of RWJBarnabas Health. Ms. Davis emphasizes how her organization’s community-focused initiatives make sense, not only from a healthcare perspective, but also from a business and economic perspective. The approach taken in New Jersey is focused on implementing long-term, expanded and self-sustaining solutions; and is being accomplished through the intentional inclusion of multiple stakeholders who might otherwise be competitors. Ms. Davis’ initiatives strive to not only be enabling, but also empowering and self-generating. They include providing local communities with access to healthy foods, transportation and safe housing – critically and immediately important efforts! But, they go beyond that – to actually providing employment to local citizens. And even beyond that – to actively supporting local entrepreneurs and small businesses – teaching them how to grow their businesses and become even more entrepreneurial. Hang onto your seats (or earbuds) folks. Ms. Davis is a powerhouse! All of her talent and energy is highly purpose-driven and laser-focused on “eliminating” the adverse negative impacts of the social determinants of health. There are numerous lessons to be learned from this interview – lessons that can translate into action. My hope is that you’ll share this interview with your local healthcare systems and local government, and begin to organize similar efforts. And, if you’re engaged in similar ‘anchor’ strategy efforts, I would love to hear about it. From my perspective, this interview is one of the most inspiring and potentially catalyzing dialogues posted on this podcast series to date. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

May 31, 20181h 8m

Episode #38: Affordable Concierge Primary Care – Honoring Seniors & Delivering Better Health Outcomes

Friends & colleagues, The care of patients with chronic medical conditions represents a significant dilemma in healthcare today. How do we optimize cost effectiveness while achieving good health outcomes? In today’s interview, we learn how ChenMed empowers primary care physicians to deploy a VIP concierge experience that delivers affordability and outstanding health outcomes for seniors. My esteemed guest is the CEO of ChenMed, Dr. Chris Chen, a cardiologist & physician executive who has devoted his career to building this premier practice focused on the care of low to moderate income patients with complex, chronic medical & social issues. In this interview, we’ll explore how ChenMed manifests its vision to: (1) be America’s leading primary care provider; and (2) transform care for those who need it the most – the elderly, the sick and the poor. Key topics covered include: · Specific tactics ChenMed uses to deliver outstanding outcomes that mutually and simultaneously benefit patient well-being, provider satisfaction, and payor success. · How ChenMed’s focus on preventive primary care demonstrably improves health outcomes & reduces the need for downstream “catastrophic” care such as ED visits & hospitalizations. · The training and development of ChenMed’s incoming physicians – building their readiness for accountability as well as advanced training in service orientation, finance and leadership. · The holistic approach ChenMed takes in the ‘care’ of people – focusing on lifestyle issues, social supports & behaviors – rather than solely on clinical ‘healthcare’. Throughout the interview, Chris shares the underlying mission-driven philosophy that differentiates his practice from others. He reveals numerous pearls in the second half of the interview you’ll not want to miss. Of note, in addition to the intense focus on person-centered care, Chris also describes how ChenMed creates a supportive, respectful & meaningful environment for physicians and other providers. If you’d like to understand what outstanding ‘triple-aim’ primary care looks like, this is the ticket. Chris informs us that the three values upon which ChenMed’s strategy & tactics are built are love, accountability & passion. Many organizations use these words. ChenMed clearly makes them part of their daily operation. I always leave my conversations with Chris with a renewed sense of conviction, courage and hope. I suspect you will as well. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

May 17, 20181h 5m

Episode #37 – Making it easier for patients & providers to do the right things – an interview with Kevin Volpp MD, Founding Director of CHIBE

Human behavior is, by far, the single biggest lever we have to impact our health outcomes. Yet, despite the profound impact our behaviors have on health outcomes, as well as on our national & global economic health; we continue to see adherence rates to appropriate treatment and medication taking hover between 40 to 50%! These incredibly low adherence rates exist in chronic issues such as diabetes treatment and blood pressure control; and they also occur even after life-threatening events such as heart attacks. This is, without question, a major health care challenge for patients, providers, payers & employers. In fact, it’s one of the most significant challenges for just about every stakeholder in healthcare, including pharmaceutical companies and pharmacies. Clearly, behavior change is a tough nut to crack. We all want to do the right things – but behavior change is challenging to initiate, and even more challenging to sustain. Gratefully, there is a discipline called ‘behavioral economics’ – a combination of microeconomics, psychology & neuroscience – that is demonstrating marked success in making it easier for patients, as well as doctors, to repeatedly and more easily perform & sustain desired healthful behaviors. In this interview, Dr. Kevin Volpp, one of the most highly published and productive physician-scientists in this discipline, shares numerous applications & techniques of behavioral economics – as applied directly to patients’ & providers’ behaviors. What you’ll hear in this interview includes: How a large employer-based incentive program tripled the rate of sustained smoking cessation – from 5% to 15%. And,in a smaller subset of employees (~14%) the intervention achieved rates of 50% long term smoking cessation! How a default electronic medical record intervention increased physicians’ prescribing of generic medications from less than 60% to 99% – leading to savings of approximately $32M in a couple of years time. How behavioral economics is being deployed to create a new primary care payment system in the Hawaii Medical Services Agency – incenting doctors to deliver high value care. Toward the end of our dialogue, Dr. Volpp sketches an enlightened picture of the future of healthcare – a tremendous emancipation of value that could occur, if we can begin combining virtual digital technologies with the powerful techniques of behavioral economics Clayton Christensen, the preeminent Harvard Business School Professor & one of the leading management scholars of our time, wrote in The Innovator’s Prescription: A Disruptive Solution for Health Care, “There are more than 9,000 billing codes for individual procedures and units of care. But there is not a single billing code for patient adherence or improvement, or for helping patients stay well.” In my opinion, Dr. Kevin Volpp’s groundbreaking work in Behavioral Economics addresses Dr. Christensen’s keen observation by focusing on creating the procedures & interventions for helping patients stay well, as well as helping physicians and other providers help patients stay well. I came away from this interview with one lingering question: Given the clear potential for behavioral economics to achieve sustained healthful behaviors, improve our health and the health of our nation, and lower the crippling costs of healthcare – how come we’re not doing more of it? My hope – and intention – is that this interview advances the greater awareness of one of the most significant opportunities we have available to us to improve healthcare. As always, I do hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev Neuwirth, MD  

May 10, 20181h 2m

Episode 36 – Insights into Creating a Model Healthcare System – w/ Dr. Mark Briesacher, Chief Physician Executive & President, Intermountain Med Group

Have you ever wondered what it takes to be a model healthcare system? In this interview, Dr. Mark Briesacher provides us with profound insight into how Intermountain Healthcare consistently maintains its position at the forefront of clinical outcomes, improvement & innovation. Mark informs us that the organization’s original charge was to create “a Model Healthcare System.” What you’ll discover in this interview is how he and his colleagues have taken that charge to heart. One manifestation of that charge is the “Clinical Reorganization” being deployed to create a consumer-oriented, community-based model of healthcare. Dr. Briesacher describes a two-part construct – a highly innovative community division focused on long-term health, prevention & wellness; and an acute, episodic-care division composed of specialty surgical/medical centers-of-excellence. Mark discusses the unique contributions of each, and also emphasizes the synergistic intersection between them – which leads to optimal decisions about appropriateness of care as well as world class health outcomes. Another example of creating ‘a Model Healthcare System’ is the innovative insurance product called ‘SelectHealth Share’ – an offering of Intermountain’s embedded SelectHealth Plan. This product creates explicit shared accountability between the Employers/Employees (customer), the SelectHealth Plan & Intermountain Healthcare providers. All of this contributes to what Mark refers to as a “community” of health. A third illustration of creating ‘a Model Healthcare System” is the consumer-oriented, digitally-powered, transformational patient experience that Intermountain Healthcare is building – which, as Mark points out, “… all starts with the digital front door that removes as much friction as possible.” Toward the end of our interview, Mark shares a number of heartwarming and inspiring stories from his upbringing. Please don’t miss this! These snapshots provide us with an understanding of how and why his personal values are so highly aligned with Intermountain’s long-standing culture of excellence, integrity and community service. Mark is, without question, a highly capable and humble servant leader; and Intermountain Healthcare is the quintessential ‘learning organization’. Dr. Briesacher and his colleagues are brilliantly carrying out their charge to create ‘a Model Healthcare System’. There are numerous lessons and learnings to be gleaned & emulated from their example! As always I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

May 4, 20181h 18m

Episode #35 – Do Employee Wellness Programs actually make Employees Well? – an interview with Al Lewis, Founder of Quizzify

Al Lewis may be one of the most controversial, and respected, figures in the employee health & wellness industry. His insight and candor have earned him various labels and epithets including, “the founding father” of disease management and alternatively, the “troublemaker-in-chief” of the wellness industry. Whether you like him or not, I doubt that anyone can challenge his integrity, or the rigorous intellectual approach he takes in analyzing the efficacy of employer-based wellness and care management programs. By way of introduction – Al Lewis attended Harvard College, where he studied and then taught Economics. He graduated from Harvard Law School, and eventually became a partner at Bain & Company; prior to becoming a nationally recognized expert and consultant in the fields of employee health & care management. Al has authored a number of critically acclaimed books on employee health & care management, including ‘Why Nobody Believes The Numbers’, which was named ‘2012 healthcare book of the year’ in Forbes. In this interview Al Lewis – true to form – dispels numerous myths and radically reorients our thinking on the critically important issue of employee health & wellness. According to Mr. Lewis, the most significant healthcare cost & health outcomes opportunity for employers is NOT getting employees to “take more steps or eat more broccoli;” but instead to prevent them from having unnecessary screenings, tests and treatments – what he terms “hyper-diagnosis.” He has, over many years, repeatedly documented and demonstrated that healthcare over-utilization wastes tremendous money and adversely impacts employee health. He also argues that current Health Risk Assessments (HRA’s) are misguided, wasteful and potentially harmful. What you’ll discover in this interview includes: 1. Why, according to Al Lewis, employee health wellness programs are a waste of money and, more importantly, are potentially harmful to employee’s health & wellness. If you’re interested in his online documented expose on the “mis-statements” of the wellness industry, you can learn more on www.theysaidwhat.net. 2. Mr. Lewis’ online program ‘Quizzify’ (available to employers at www.quizzify.com) – which uses games, quizzes and assessments to educate employees on how to better manage their health, healthcare, and healthcare expenditures – and whose basic purpose is to create a culture of healthcare literacy. 3. How employers can provide services that enhance employee health & wellness – what Mr. Lewis terms “wellness done for employees” instead of “wellness done to employees”. 4. Al’s forecast for the future of the wellness industry – an industry which he predicts is going to change dramatically in nine months, as a result of major court rulings. Mr. Lewis certainly puts his money where his mouth is. If you don’t agree with him, he’s offering a $3 million reward to anyone who can demonstrate that wellness programs actually save money, or if he can’t prove that they don’t save money! It is refreshing, enlightening and encouraging to have a conscientious industry watchdog with the intellectual rigor, acumen and experience that Al Lewis possesses. For the purpose of this podcast series, it’s not his critique that is most important. What’s important is what Al Lewis is creating, and how he is contributing to Creating a New (and better) Healthcare. Again, I did warn you all that he is a controversial and respected authority. If you have any difference in opinion, Al is ready to listen and respond. As always I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev Neuwirth, MD

Apr 26, 20181h 10m

Episode #34 – How Geisinger Thinks About Strategy – an interview with Dominic Moffa, EVP & Chief Strategy Officer for Geisinger

Given the rapid, tumultuous, and unprecedented changes in healthcare these days, there are very few things that are as important to a hospital system or integrated delivery network as developing and deploying a sound and forward-thinking strategy. In this interview we have the amazing good fortune and unusual opportunity of picking the brain of the senior strategy executive for one of the most successful, visionary and pioneering healthcare systems in the world – Geisinger. Dominic Moffa is a seasoned healthcare executive with a long standing track record of success. He’s also an incredibly humble, generous, practical and fun guy. In this interview he generously shares some of the life lessons and rules of thumb that have contributed to his amazing success, and the success of the organizations he’s been a leader in. It’s clear from his straightforward responses that he not only talks the talk, he walks the walk. What you’ll learn in this interview includes: The primary market forces that Dominic perceives to be strategic challenges for healthcare systems The three fundamental building blocks of the Geisinger Strategy Dominic’s 3D’s of Strategy Deployment How Geisinger is transforming itself – and healthcare – not from the inside out, but from the outside in How the ‘hospital of the future’ may actually be much more than a hospital The transformative social and community commitments Geisinger is making in its ‘Fresh Food Farmacy’, it’s Genomics initiative, and its Springboard Healthy Scranton Initiative Toward the end of the interview Dominic shares the best piece of advice he was ever given. Folks – this is not to be missed, as it is certainly one of the best we have heard on this podcast series to date! As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! One final note – I would feel remiss if I didn’t extend a personal message of sincere appreciation to the entire Geisinger organization – for their many years of being leaders in healthcare, but also being generous in sharing the lessons they’ve learned. While it’s apparent, as Mr. Moffa points out in this interview, that their primary focus is to provide outstanding medical care to their patients and the populations they serve; it’s also abundantly clear that they understand, and take seriously, their innovative and pioneering role in helping to advance the American Healthcare System. Zeev Neuwirth, MD

Apr 19, 201857 min

Episode #33: Lessons on Healthcare Media & Leadership – with Scott Becker, founder & publisher of the Becker’s Healthcare & Becker’s Hospital Review

Friends & colleagues, This week’s podcast episode is unusual in a number of ways. First, we’re posting a bit earlier in the week than usual – to coincide with the Becker’s Hospital Review 9th Annual Conference. Second, the topics covered are exciting, enlightening and relevant; but definitely different for this podcast series. Third, we have a unique guest on this week’s episode – someone who brings tremendous expertise and success in a broad range of areas inlcuding healthcare law, business, leadership, online media & journalism & world-class symposia planning. In addition to his own extraordinary accomplishments and contributions to healthcare, Scott Becker has had the unique vantage point and experience of speaking with and learning, first-hand, from world-class leaders and celebrities, as well as renowned healthcare system leaders. In this special interview, Mr. Becker shares with us the wisdom he’s gleaned from over two decades of steering one of the leading, most prolific and influential healthcare media outlets and forums. Some highlights from this this interview include: (1) Scott’s astute observations of the current healthcare market dynamics; and a discerning assessment of the unprecedented challenges and pressures facing hospital & healthcare system leaders; (2) a number of profound pearls on leadership, teamwork and business development; (3) his unique insights into healthcare media, communication & journalism – lessons that have made, and continue to make, the daily Becker’s Reports & conferences so popular and so immensely valuable to healthcare executives, leaders and influencers at all levels, and in all sectors of healthcare. From my perspective, Scott exemplifies the best qualities of the great leaders he informs us about. In addition to his intelligence, experience, strategic acumen and track record of delivering on great results; he is a generous, forward-thinking, inspiring and empathetic leader. What is also abundantly apparent is that Mr. Scott Becker is keenly focused – first and foremost – on identifying & solving the problems of his customers and consumers. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev

Apr 10, 201853 min

Episode #32 – Reframing How Doctors Make Clinical Decisions – Dave Slawson MD, International Lecturer in Evidence-Informed Decision Making

Episode #32 – Reframing How Doctors Make Clinical Decisions – an interview with Dave Slawson MD, Professor of Family Medicine & Internationally Renowned Lecturer in Evidence-Informed Decision Making & Information Mastery. The literature would suggest that a significant percentage of clinical decision making is not well supported by evidence-based literature. Given the vastness of the emerging literature, combined with how rapidly it changes, it’s nearly impossible for any individual provider to keep up. Compounding this issue is the fact that the physiology-based reasoning we were all taught is no longer adequate. Adding fuel to the fire is the predominant fee-for-service reimbursement system which strongly incentivizes providers to do more rather than less; and a tort reform system which also compels providers to do more rather than less. Fortunately, Dr. Slawson and his colleague – Allen Shaughnessy PharmD, along with many other informaticists and evidence-based experts, have been working on a solution. In this interview you’ll hear how he and his colleagues have reframed the way physicians and other healthcare providers can and should go about making evidence-based decisions. Here are some highlights: The most significant shift required in our clinical reasoning and decision making is to what Dr. Slawson describes as “probabilistic analytics & science”. This quantitative approach disrupts the inherent fallacies of human decision making. We need to shift from process metrics to outcome metrics. This is a shift from treating the numbers, such as blood glucose, to treating the patient – that is, focusing on the outcomes that matter, such as heart attacks, strokes and deaths. The shift to consumer-centricity & shared decision making is also of utmost importance. If decisions are, in fact, going to be made about value-based outcomes; and if we agree that patients, as consumers, define the value proposition; then any decision that is made without the patient’s shared input and preferences is going to be flawed. This approach, far from being a ‘cook-book medicine’ imposition on providers, actually offers immense support and guidance. It will improve the clinical care of patients; and it will provide much needed relief for physicians – allowing them the time and energy to focus their attention on their patients, instead of constantly hunting and foraging for the latest clinical updates. One of the most meaningful messages that Dr. Slawson leaves us with is a “prescription to say ‘No’.” ‘No’ to unnecessary tests, imaging studies and invasive diagnostics. ‘No’ to wasteful and potentially harmful medications & treatments that are not indicated. ‘No’ to making decisions based on outmoded data and antiquated reasoning. One of the major lessons I came away with from this dialogue is that it’s not only what we do that can make a difference; it’s what we can stop doing that can really make a demonstrable positive difference in improving patient care and health outcomes. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as i have! Zeev

Apr 5, 20181h 7m

Episode #31 – “Delivering Affordable Healthcare with Dignity” – a Telling Interview with Dr. Josh Luke, former Healthcare CEO and Best-Selling Author

The problem we’ll be addressing in this episode – which is of critical national significance – is the unsustainable burden of healthcare costs. We’ll cover two major issues: (1) tactics employers can take to avoid unnecessary healthcare costs; and (2) an approach to understanding and addressing a long-standing challenge in healthcare delivery – post acute care. You should listen to this interview if: You’re not overly concerned about these issues, or don’t feel knowledgeable enough to be concerned. Your provider group is engaged in an Accountable Care Organization, Medicare Shared Savings Program, Medicare Advantage or Bundled Payment Program; or if you’re an employer or payer. You have a family member that may one day end up hospitalized or in a nursing home. Our guest this week, Josh Luke, is a nationally recognized expert in the post-acute care space, and on healthcare cost strategies in general. He spent 15 years as a hospital CEO and a senior nursing home administrator – so he has deep knowledge and an insider’s perspective. Since leaving those roles, his mission has been to assist patients and their families in navigating the opaque archipelago of post-acute care; and to assist individuals & employers in learning how to manage the overwhelming costs of medical care. Josh is a self-described “truth teller”. As you’ll hear in this interview, Dr. Luke does not hold back – and with good reason. He’s got some well defined and thoughtful perspectives, as well as bold practical solutions on how the system needs to change to provide care that is safer, less costly and more dignified. One example is Josh’s program, ‘Discharge with Dignity’ – an initiative to assure that patients being discharged from hospitals are given a reasonable option to return to their home, instead of being corralled into avoidable, unnecessarily lengthy, and costly post-acute care facility stays. His protocol is being used across the country to train physicians and other providers. Another example – Josh will discuss the main points of his most recently published book, ‘Health-Wealth: 9 Steps to Financial Recovery’. He’ll share the specific tactics that employers can take to reduce unnecessary costs and optimize their healthcare spend. From the employee or individual’s perspective, Josh will introduce us all to his “3 P’s” of becoming an “Engaged Healthcare Consumer” (EHC). If you’re still wondering what all of this has to do with ‘dignity’, here’s what I garnered from listening to Josh. Healthcare with dignity includes: (1) making what we do in healthcare – including prices – transparent, and easily understandable to patients, families & employers; (2) giving patients real choices that take into account their preferences (keep in mind that the AARP has repeatedly documented that over 97% of people want to go home after a hospitalization, and not to a nursing home); and (3) considering the quality, safety & cost factors first, rather than the business imperatives; or more bluntly put, being patient-centered rather than profit-centered. Dr. Josh Luke’s honesty and openness is refreshing and much needed. He sheds a revealing light and a helpful set of approaches to issues that have been hidden and confusing for decades. He is clearly purpose-driven and passionate; his perspectives are born of wisdom and backed by data; and his recommendations are forward-thinking, consumer-oriented, value-based and practical. If you still have some doubts as to the importance of this topic, I’ll leave you with some stats to consider: The Medicare Trust Fund is expected to go bust by 2029 – that’s only 10 years from now – important for those of us who are expecting Medicare to pay our healthcare bills. About 25% of the total costs of Medicare (which make up half of all medical expenditures in the U.S.) are spent on what is termed ‘post acute care’ – nursing homes, inpatient rehabilitation facilities, long term acute care hospitals, home health and hospice care. It’s predicted that Millenials (currently 20 to 40 year olds) – who make up the largest employee demographic in the country – will spend over 50% of their lifetime earnings on healthcare. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have. Zeev

Mar 23, 20181h 8m

Episode #30 – ‘Well-Being’ with Dr. Raphaela O’Day, Senior Manager of Evidence and Strategic Content with Johnson & Johnson Health & Wellness Solution

How many of us can define ‘well-being’? How many of us understand the factors that enhance it? How many of us think about the issue of ‘well-being’ or do anything about it in the context of ourselves, our employees or the patients that we provide care for? Dr. O’Day and her multi-disciplinary team have spent years not just defining ‘well-being’, but also learning how to improve it.* If you have a personal or professional interest in well-being, you’ll be interested in this interview. What’ll you hear is Dr. O’Day sharing: 5 modifiable factors (domains) that contribute to well-being. How these 5 domains of well-being impact our health and influence our ability to change behavior. Specific tactics to positively impact these 5 domains of well-being. How well-being – as a ‘global determinant of health’ – is a critical component of any successful approach to population health – spanning the continuum of care, from people focused on wellness to those who are dealing with chronic disease management. How well-being is a highly advantageous, integral part of any employee health program, in terms of its impact on human performance and resilience, as well as its impact on health outcomes. I have heard Dr. O’Day speak on this topic a number of times; and I learn something new and important each time. In the second half of the interview she also shares some of the personal experiences, which have shaped her thinking on human behavior, performance and growth. The conversation then meanders into a deeper discussion on existential issues such as meaning and purpose. It becomes abundantly apparent that this work is highly meaningful to Dr. O’Day, not only as a professional, but also as a fellow human being. It’s clear that she not only talks the talk, but also walks the walk, when it comes to well-being. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I do. Zeev *The information Dr. O’Day shared, specifically related to ‘well-being’ research & development performed at Johnson & Johnson, is proprietary, and is the intellectual property of J&J.

Mar 16, 20181h 7m

This is not your fathers or mothers AMA – the AMA’s Moonshot Moment – with Barbara McAneny MD, President-elect of the American Medical Association

If you have not been following the great leap forward that the American Medical Association (AMA) has made over the past 5 years, then you’ve been missing out on something quite spectacular. It’s phenomenal, and phenomenally told to us by the President-elect of the AMA, Dr Barbara McAneny. What you’ll discover in this interview is that the current AMA is not your father’s or mother’s AMA. This is a bold organization that is attempting to launch the profession into the future. The breathtaking strategic initiatives and dramatic progress you’ll hear about may represent the largest inflection in the AMA’s history since the Flexner Report transformation over a century ago. And, Dr. McAneny is, in her own right, an impressive & inspiring example of leadership. She has distinguished herself many times over as a community-based oncologist, as well as a leader on the national healthcare scene. Here are a just a few snippets of the many forward thinking trajectories that you’ll hear Dr. McAneny expound upon in this interview: People want health and are not necessarily interested in healthcare, so the AMA has been focusing on improving health outcomes through the creation of their “innovation ecosystem” network. Patient outcomes are affected as much by their zip code as by the quality of the healthcare we offer; so it’s critically important to understand, measure and intervene on the social determinants of health. Medical care is no longer just an individual clinical endeavour, and will require highly collaborative partnering which combines medical science with digital technology, health economics, analytics and an understanding of patient behavior and socioeconomic factors… In this episode, Dr. McAnaney will also describe three major strategic arcs the AMA is focused on: First – the AMA’s (moonshot) “innovation ecosystem” network – a broad expanse of initiatives and highly progressive partnerships the AMA has engaged in to radically improve healthcare and health outcomes. It’s astounding to hear the sheer number of highly collaborative partnerships the AMA has formed with start-ups, accelerators, venture capitalists, tech developers & other organizations – in order to bring the physician sensibility to the development of new health technologies & digital technologies. The AMA has begun to act like an innovation convener – proactively partnering with companies such as IBM Watson, GE, Intel, the Scripps Institute, Partners Center for Connected Health, Intermountain Healthcare and Omada Health. Second – the AMA’s strategy to transform medical education by creating “the medical school of the future”. In this initiative – the ‘Accelerating Change in Medical Education’ Consortium – they’ve funded medical schools to create forward-facing curriculum and training programs. The goal is to create the ‘physician of the future’ – not only knowledgeable in the science & art of medicine, but also steeped in the science & art of management, leadership and systems thinking. At present there are over 30 medical schools involved, collectively representing a quarter of all medical students in this country. Third – the AMA’s focus on physician burnout and sustainability. Approximately 50% of physicians are burnt out according to numerous studies; and physicians daily spend over an hour on burdensome administrative work for every hour of direct patient contact. Dr. McAnaney emphasizes that it’s hugely wasteful and demoralizing to have the most highly trained and costly human resource in healthcare function as data clerks for hours each day. Of note and underscoring this point, HHS Secretary Alex Azar recently stated, “Its the patients who suffers when a provider spends more time reporting quality measures than delivering quality care”. Dr. McAneny compellingly advocates for the removal of these and other stressors, as a way to reduce physician burnout and improve healthcare. I came away from this interview with a renewed appreciation and admiration for the AMA and its mission; and with a profound respect and gratitude for the vision, integrity and selfless commitment that Dr. McAneny has manifested throughout her career. Dr. McAneny shares numerous pearls of wisdom throughout the interview – transformational inflections that you’ll want to listen to – likely, more than once. As always, I hope you get as much out of this as I have! Zeev

Mar 9, 201854 min

Emancipating Value in Healthcare – ProvenCare, with Glenn Steele MD, Chairman of xG Health Solutions, and former President & CEO of Geisinger Health S

Our guest this week, Glenn Steele MD PhD, is one of the most trailblazing, impactful and enduring healthcare leaders of our time. He is a distinguished surgeon, researcher and executive. Dr. Steele served as past Chairman of the American Board of Surgery, past president of the Society of Surgical Oncology, and a member of the National Academy of Medicine. He has been named consecutive times to Modern Healthcare’s Most Powerful Physician Executives in Healthcare, Modern Healthcare’s 100 Most Powerful People in Healthcare & Beckers’ Hospital Review 100 non-profit Health System CEO’s to know list. Dr. Steele, former President & CEO of Geisinger & currently the Chairman of xG Health Solutions; and his colleague, the current President & CEO of Geisinger, David Feinberg MD recently co-authored a book entitled ProvenCare – How to Deliver Value-Based Healthcare the Geisinger Way. In this interview we will uncover the major components of the ProvenCare model. It’s a great peak under the hood of one of the best healthcare systems in the world. What you’ll discover in this interview will include: Dr. Steele’s 3 fundamental approaches to “emancipating value” in healthcare. Geisinger’s ProvenCare Acute – a protocol so reliable that Geisinger offers money-back guarantees on procedures like coronary artery bypass surgery, and hip and knee replacement surgeries. Geisinger’s ProvenCare Chronic – an approach to providing consistently high quality, patient-oriented care for chronic conditions such as diabetes, high blood pressure and asthma. Geisinger’s uniquely bold approach to achieving outstanding outcomes in chronic disease management – one example being their ‘all-or-none’ diabetes bundle. Geisinger’s ProvenHealth Navigator – a comprehensive approach that includes Primary Care Redesign, Population Health Management, and Medical Neighborhoods. Geisinger’s ‘sweet spot’ – the integrated vertical alignment of payer/insurer & provider that has allowed them to create a powerful synergistic system for value-based care. This interview also highlights Dr. Steele’s hard-earned wisdom, which played a critical role in the repeated and sustained successes at Geisinger. He shares a number of memorable pearls during our dialogue. One example is his commentary on how “scaling” innovation is, in his experience, much more challenging than creating the innovation itself. Another related example is, in his own words: “how you do the ‘sociology for change’ is actually even more important than the substance of the change”. His explanation of these statements have profound implications for anyone interested in or working on the transformation of healthcare. You’ll also hear about the groundbreaking work Dr. Steele is doing in his newest role as Vice Chairman and clinical leader at the Health Transformation Alliance (HTA), an alliance of over 40 U.S. Corporations composed of over 6 million employees, with an annual healthcare spend of over $25 billion. In this role, Dr. Steele, and his colleagues at HTA, are demonstrating to employers and employees that they can lower the cost of care by over 25% and decrease the risk of heart attacks, strokes and other end-stage outcomes of chronic disease – by guiding medical care to physicians within the Alliance who are using the ProvenCare model. The Geisinger ProvenCare story is one of the best in the annals of American Healthcare; and in this interview, it’s told by one of the most proven healthcare leaders. As always, I hope you get as much out of this interview as I have! Zeev

Mar 2, 201858 min

The Cost of Employer-based Healthcare, with Dave Chase, co-founder and CEO of Health Rosetta

This week’s episode, on employer-based healthcare, deals with one of the most critically important & rapidly advancing issues in American healthcare today. Our guest this week is Dave Chase. He is a highly successful serial entrepreneur – who, among numerous other accomplishments, played a leadership role in launching Microsoft’s $2B healthcare platform. Dave has been named as one of the most influential people in Digital Health, and is known for the boldness and integrity of his speaking and writing. A hallmark of Dave’s approach, as you’ll hear in this interview, is his refusal to pull any punches. Over the past few years he has been on a quest to understand and address the impact of the growing costs of healthcare on employers, employees, as well as the deleterious downstream impact on our municipalities and the national economy. Keep in mind that nearly half of all healthcare costs in the U.S. are paid for by employers and increasingly shouldered by employees. Fortunately, Dave and his colleagues, as well as numerous others around the country, have been working to optimize the effectiveness & enhance the efficiency of healthcare delivery, as well as to very intentionally reduce the significant unnecessary costs of care. To this end, Dave and his colleagues have formed a non-profit called Health Rosetta, whose purpose is to drive the “adoption of successful strategies and practical tactics to fix the healthcare system through the optimization of employer health benefits programs & healthcare purchasing.” It’s essentially an open source education, training and certifying resource for employee health. In this episode, you’ll learn about Health Rosetta’s “7 Habits for highly successful employers” – the proven solutions that Dave has discovered and collected. We’ll also discuss the critical role that “value-based primary care” and “centers of excellence” (high performing provider groups) play in reducing unnecessary healthcare costs for employers. Dave has the refreshing perspective that most of the solutions are already out there – they just need to be identified and deployed effectively. Dave also shares several encouraging examples of employers who have implemented these relatively straightforward initiatives, and reaped huge savings, which return to their bottom line and enhance their ability to extend greater benefits to their employees and their communities. It’s a real treat to hear Dave discuss these topics with sincerity and fact-fueled passion; but, if you’d like more detailed information, I would encourage you to visit the Health Rosetta website and/or download a free digital copy of his book, “The CEO’s Guide to Restoring The American Dream – How To Deliver World Class Healthcare to Your Employees at Half the Cost”. Although this interview begins with some stark economic realities and a disturbing vision of a potential future, it ends with a hopeful message. Dave’s call to action is simple – join the value-based movement. Dave is practical, purpose-driven, compassionate healthcare leader who brings fresh perspectives, fearless honesty and a selfless commitment to, as he puts it, “leave the world a better place for my kids than the current trajectory.” His work in the domain of employer-based healthcare is a critical endeavor to make a highly opaque and misaligned part of healthcare delivery more transparent and more sensible. I hope his story and his mission inspires you, as much as it has me. Zeev

Feb 23, 201854 min

Perspectives on Physician Professionalism & Patient Care, with Dr. Richard Baron, President & CEO of the American Board of Internal Medi

This week’s interview is an expose in modern medical professionalism and perspectives on what will be required for the next era. Our guest this week, Richard Baron, is a physician grounded in nearly three decades of direct hands-on clinical care and enlightened by his experience of participating on numerous national level workgroups such as at the National Quality Forum, the National Committee on Quality Assurance, the Center for Disease Control, The Commonwealth Fund & The Aspen Institute Health Strategy Group – as well as a couple of years at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Innovation Center, leading initiatives in accountable care and primary care redesign. He currently is the CEO of the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM), which has had its fair share of controversy. Richard has a deep and broad perspective on healthcare delivery. But more than that, he’s a remarkably and refreshingly independent-minded thought leader, and a dedicated, passionate public steward for American medical professionalism. Dr. Baron reminds me of the many dedicated, hard working, thoughtful primary care physician leaders whom I meet regularly. Like these high-integrity physicians, his focus is on the broader continuum of patient care – on patients & patient care, first & foremost; and then secondarily on sustaining providers. His vision is consistent with the “quadruple aim” of better health, better care experience, better value & better support for providers. He is an ardent champion for maintaining and elevating the standards & quality of medical care; and a vocal advocate for the critical central role of primary care in any value based healthcare system. Richard studied English at Harvard College, and then received his MD degree from Yale. I’m not sure if it’s his liberal arts background that has given him the ability to tease out and integrate complex themes and narratives; but I do admire the new narrative he is attempting to construct at the ABIM. He is currently focusing his efforts on listening to the varied voices and myriad perspectives of the ABIM’s physician constituents; and seeking to understand how to recognize, celebrate and reward both the tangible and intangible benefits of the the doctor and the doctor/patient relationship. He is keenly and realistically aware of the very real tensions of our times, and rather than ignore or polarize, he is seeking to balance. Richard exposes the tension between science & service, between payment and prioritizing value-based patient care, between clinical medicine and community care. He is clearly a defender of the scientific & technological narrative of healthcare – the ABIM’s purpose being to maintain professional knowledge and competence. But, he is also seeking to support the integration of complementary narratives such as the importance of doctor/patient communication, continuous quality improvement, data-driven health management, and the empathetic skill and emotional work that is crucial in healing relationships. This interview reveals the story of an individual physician, innovator & leader – who is attempting to do what many of us are struggling to do – to infuse & sustain ourselves, our colleagues, our professions, and our institutions with humanism, humility, meaning and purpose; and to do so in an increasingly complex world that is becoming, of necessity, more corporatized, institutionalized and standardized. Above all else, what comes across in this dialogue is Dr. Baron’s strong sensibility that it is an incredible privilege to be of service to others – to have the gift of being able to alleviate the suffering of our patients and our communities through the practice of the art & science of medicine. This is a story you shouldn’t miss out on. As always, I hope you gain as much from this interview as I have!

Feb 16, 201853 min

Reframing chronic disease management – with George McLendon PhD, Founder of SensorRX; and VP for Therapeutics Research & Development at Atrium Health

On the surface of it, this week’s podcast is about a new migraine solution. But, the bigger story here is really about reframing how we think about chronic disease management and rethinking the importance of self-reported patient health data. This story is also about the power and elegance of simplicity; the value of customer discovery and agile prototyping; and the absolute primacy of paying attention to the user interface interface/consumer experience. What’s particularly refreshing about the way this product was created is that it was developed through listening to patients and providers. Listening to patients, who define value; and to providers, who create it – and being open to continuously revamping one’s design based on what one is hearing and observing. This week’s guest is Dr. George McLendon. George has an impressive academic & entrepreneurial background. He’s published over 200 research papers in chemistry, physics & biology; and holds multiple patents, which has led to the founding of several successful life science companies. George and his colleagues at SensorRX focused on headaches for a number of reasons. Over 40 million people in the U.S. and nearly 1 billion people worldwide suffer from migraine headaches – making it one of the most prevalent chronic medical conditions. The impact on U.S. employers is also profound – reaching tens of billions of dollars a year in medical costs and lost productivity. The customer discovery process that George and his team took led them to a number of observations and learnings. Here are a few of their discoveries you’ll hear about in this interview: Physicians made their decision about which migraine medications to use, and the medication dosing based on only 4 or 5 pieces of patient reported symptoms. Patients grossly under reported their symptoms – more specifically, the frequency and intensity of the headaches they had been experiencing. In their studies, the SensorRX team discovered that well over 50% of patients were under reporting their symptoms! As a result of this under reporting, providers were under treating the migraine headaches – leading to months and years of prolonged headaches. It was this key pivotal discovery – the critical importance of reliable self-reported patient health data – which became the centerpiece of their solution. Patients would not use an app that took longer than 15 seconds to record and document their symptoms. People wanted a quick and easy product. These realizations led the team to construct an app that literally takes 12 – 15 seconds to use each time a patient has a migraine. The app records the necessary pieces of data; and can convey that info to the treating provider in a number of ways that makes it easier for the provider to treat the patients’ headaches more appropriately. In their unpublished trials to date, the team has witnessed an overall improvement in quality-of-life scores of over 30%, with many patients seeing much greater improvements. This standardized quality-of-life survey – known as MIDAS – measures the negative impact headaches have on one’s work and social life. Clearly, the efficacy has yet to be proven in more rigorous, peer-reviewed studies; but the anecdotal reports to date are compelling. George and his team are also applying this approach to other conditions – such as asthma, irritable bowel syndrome, epilepsy and emphysema… conditions in which patient reported health data play a critical role in determining how physicians treat their patients. There is another part of this story here that shouldn’t be lost – Dr. McLendon’s intention. One only need listen to his telling of the story of ‘Sally’ and her daughter to appreciate that his overarching mission is to alleviate the avoidable suffering of patients with chronic conditions. This is a trait shared by most of the leaders and innovators interviewed on this podcast series. The lesson here may be that empathetic purpose & intention are key factors in redesigning successful healthcare solutions from the consumer/patient perspective. And, that may be one of the most significant lessons we can derive from this and other episodes of ‘Creating a New Healthcare’.

Feb 9, 20181h 16m

The Antidote to Patient & Caregiver Suffering – Compassionate Connected Care, with Christina Dempsey, Chief Nursing Officer for Press Ganey Associates

This week’s podcast is about the critically important issue of patient suffering & professional caregiver suffering. This particular episode will speak to you, not only from a professional perspective, but also from a deeply personal one. If you have ever been a hospitalized patient, or a family member of a patient; or, think that you might someday be a hospitalized patient or family member of a patient, you’ll want to listen to this interview. Our guest this week is Christy Dempsey, the Chief Nursing Officer for Press Ganey Associates, who has recently authored a book entitled, ‘The Antidote to Suffering: How Compassionate Connected Care Can Improve Safety, Quality, and Experience’. Christy has over three decades of experience as a nurse, nurse leader, hospital executive, and a consultant with deep experience in clinical operations, process improvement & patient experience. Her approach is comprehensive and balanced; and her prescriptions are practical, and grounded in the practice of medicine, as well as in the science of process improvement and business management. Her stories range from heart breaking to incredibly hopeful. In this episode, you’ll learn about the ‘Compassionate Connected Care’ model that Christy has constructed and is deploying in hospitals across the country. You’ll also come away with some amazing pearls & actionable take aways. Here are a few examples: There are two types of suffering – inherent & avoidable; and caregivers often, unknowingly, contribute to or worsen the avoidable suffering that patients and their families experience in the hospital. People from different backgrounds and with different conditions have different susceptibilities to suffering – and knowing the specific painful issues can assist in creating a targeted plan to alleviate that suffering. It doesn’t take a lot of time to alleviate suffering – caregivers can make a strong personal connection with patients in less than a minute or two – what Christy calls the ‘56 second rule’. Professional caregivers – similar to patients – experience both inherent and avoidable suffering or distress; and if we want to alleviate patients’ suffering, we’ll need to make the alleviation of caregiver suffering a major part of our plan. Caregiver resilience is a balance between inherent/added distress and inherent/added reward. Our goal should be to tip the balance in favor of rewards vs distress. Christy also introduces us to the concept of ‘Emotional Labor’ and its impact on caregiver resilience & patient experience. Patient distress/suffering is not about professional caregivers being ‘nice’ or creating a ‘wow’ experience. It’s also not about hitting the patient experience metrics on your hospital’s scorecard. This is an integral part of clinical care & core to our professional ethic; and closely tied to quality & safety outcomes such as infection rates, hospital length of stay, readmission rates… Christy is a passionate, highly expert and convincing champion for the cause of alleviating patient & professional caregiver suffering. What I admire most about Christy, and what she’s doing, is her courage and commitment in speaking out and doing something about a very sensitive issue that most don’t recognize or want to discuss. Christy definitely joins the pantheon of leaders I’ve interviewed who have devoted their careers, and lives, to creating a new healthcare! As always, I hope you get as much out of this as I have!

Feb 2, 20181h 3m

The ‘Compassionate Care Movement’ with Alex Coren, Co-Founder & Chief Innovation Officer at Wambi

This episode is about nothing less than elevating the human condition at the forefront of healthcare delivery. It is about enriching and empowering professional caregivers through real-time written feedback from the patients they care for, so that they can, in turn, create a sustained culture of caring, comfort, compassion, trust and safety for patients and patients’ families. The solution we’ll discuss this week focuses on directly recognizing & appreciating the professionals and staff who are, all-too-often, the unsung frontline heroes of healthcare delivery. Our guest this week is Alex Coren – a female entrepreneur, inventor, digital tech wizard & international speaker who was named #1 female student entrepreneur in the U.S. In 2016 she formed a company called Wambi. In 2017, she formed Carepostcard and Humans of Wambi – two other products which elevate humanism in healthcare. Her overarching mission is to catalyze what she has named, ‘The Compassionate Care Movement’. Alex is an impressive and inspiring leader. She is a powerhouse of purpose, passion & productivity. What she is doing to improve care in the acute and post acute setting is so simple and so ingenious that you’ll wonder why no one has thought about this or done it up until now. Her personal story is equally as compelling, and provides some explanation for what catalyzed her to create such a unique and innovative contribution. Alex grew up with two parents who were chronically ill – constantly in and out of the acute care healthcare settings. Over the course of years, she observed, up close and personal, the essential vulnerability and dependence of being a patient in the hospital setting. As a result, she developed a tremendous gratitude, respect and deep admiration for those frontline caregivers that worked tirelessly to care for her parents, and for her. It may come as no surprise, that her first job was in an acute care facility, being a manager responsible for patient experience. What she observed in this role – to her surprise – was the widespread depersonalization that frontline providers & staff experienced – literally the sense of ‘not being seen’ or recognized. She also observed the outcomes – which included depersonalized care, lower patient satisfaction, worse outcomes of care, low employee morale, and an extremely high staff turnover rate. Out of these challenging experiences as a child, her early empathetic professional observations, and her brilliant and bold mind, she created Wambi. Wambi is a patient-driven, healthcare employee performance platform aimed at recognizing and empowering compassionate care. It uniquely addresses patient satisfaction where it starts – with the care providers – through the eyes of patients and their families. It’s a gamified digital platform informed by real-time patient/family feedback, which supports care providers with individualized patient/customer experience data as a means to promote autonomy and inspire sustained behavioral change. This product serves to improve care provider engagement, decrease staff turnover and burnout, and elevate the patient experience. And it works. The hospitals her team have deployed the Wambi platform in have experienced up to a 20% decrease in staff turnover within 5 months times; a 30 to 40% increase in staff engagement, and double digit increases in HCAHPS scores. Alex Coren and her team come at this serious & long-standing problem in healthcare with a fresh perspective and a new set of solutions. This is an essential ‘must-listen’ podcast interview for any manager and/or leader involved in hospital, post acute care or home healthcare, who wants to create a culture of compassion. The contents of this interview are compelling enough. But there is more to the story. This dialogue with Alex is a profound lesson in leadership – a lesson in the art of simplicity, gratitude, courage and conviction. Alex’s sense of purpose is palpable. Her bold entrepreneurial spirit, and the humanistic mission she and her team are on, are hugely inspiring. In this interview, I ask her for her secret ‘super-power’. It’s well worth the listen just to hear her response to that question. I hope you appreciate and benefit from this dialogue as much as I have!

Jan 26, 201858 min

Designing for Patient Engagement & Behavior Change with Kyra Bobinet

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Kyra Bobinet MD, CEO & founder of engagedIN – a healthcare behavior design firm which uses neuroscience and state-of-the-art design techniques that make products and communications more engaging for consumers. Kyra has an impressive background in developing health apps, blockbuster products, and evidence-based programs in wellness & metabolic medicine. Prior to founding her own company, she served as a physician executive at Aetna, where she designed large-scale population health management and wellness interventions for Fortune 500 companies. In 2015, she authored the ‘Well Designed Life: 10 Lessons in Brain Science and Design Thinking for a Mindful, Healthy, and Purposeful Life’. In addition to her companies work, she also co-teaches patient engagement and health design with Dr. Larry Chu at the Stanford School of Medicine. This podcast episode is a critically important to anyone interested in patient engagement & behavior change. Kyra has spent years studying and combining the most up-to-date, evidence-based brain science, behavior change and design thinking – and embedding them in healthcare programs and products. You will come away from this interview with a very different understanding of behavior change. As Kyra puts it, “we have learned more about the brain and behavior in the past 5 years than in the previous 5,000 years – offering the potential and power to reach, influence and improve health and well-being at scale”. There are a number of pivotal learnings to be gained from this interview. Here are a couple. One of the most compelling advantages of Dr. Bobinet’s approach is the absence of blame, shame or guilt. In this model, there is no sense of personal failure. If there is a failure, it is in the behavior design, not in the provider or patient; because the intent is not in manipulating or psychologizing the individual; but rather in manipulating the design. Another advantage to this approach is that it’s based on brain science. Kyra describes a part of the brain called the Habenula. It’s purpose is to prevent us from repeating behaviors that might harm us. As Kyra describes, the Habenula is essentially a ‘failure counter’. If we perceive a failure – like in trying to lose weight or starting some new exercise regimen or eating healthier – the Habenula downgrades our motivation. So – not only do we not achieve the intended behavior change, we also feel bad about it, and are demotivated to try something else. The Habenula pathway is literally a physiologic demotivator. Realizing the unintended consequences of this evolutionary neural pathway, the Design approach attempts to side-step the Habenula’s failure mode. If we perceive a design attempt as an externally located learning experience, rather than a personal failure, the Habenula failure counter and cycle of suffering is far less likely to be activated. The Design approach transforms behavior change from compliance-based to creative-based. And, this is not a theoretical model. It is a practical one that has been deployed in industry and in healthcare. Kyra describes how companies like Facebook use this creative iterative approach. She also shares some of her own projects that have deployed this approach. There are numerous pearls, parables and personal takeaways that Kyra offers up in this interview. Kyra is, above all else, completely genuine and authentic; and therefore her voice is incredibly compelling. It’s truly a delight and a privilege to share this interview with you.

Jan 20, 20181h 12m

Counting what Counts – Predictive Analytics & Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare with Len D’Avolio

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Len D’Avolio, CEO and founder of Cyft – an organization that uses data and Artificial Intelligence (AI) I to make value-based care wildly successful. Dr. Len D’Avolio has spent the past 13 years – in government, academia, philanthropy and industry – attempting to transform healthcare into a “learning healthcare system”. He is clearly one of our country’s most talented minds and experienced practitioners in the use of predictive analytics and machine learning as applied to healthcare. His resume and portfolio are impressive – as an academic and an entrepreneur. Len is an assistant professor of medicine at the Brigham & Women’s Hospital and the Harvard School of Medicine. He has worked with superstars like Atul Gawande, deploying global healthcare projects. Len also created the infrastructure for the world’s largest genomic medicine cohort; and embedded the first clinical trial within an electronic medical record system for the Department of Veterans Affairs. He’s a highly sought after and nationally recognized keynote speaker, and serves as an advisor to numerous healthcare start-ups. If you want to understand AI in healthcare – both the opportunities and the limitations – you’ll want to listen to Dr. D’Avolio’s deep knowledge and honest practical take on things. Len characterizes healthcare largely as treating data as ‘exhaust’, whereas other industries treat data like it’s their oxygen or their life blood. Whereas other industries understand how to use advanced data analytics to inform their daily decisions for the purpose of optimizing performance, healthcare remains years behind. What we’re talking about here is ‘moneyball’ – using advanced mathematical algorithms embedded in software programs that affords practitioners in any field the ability to make much more informed decisions – whether that field is finance, sports, retail, social media or medicine. The ‘machine learning’ or ‘neural network’ part of it speaks to the capacity of these software programs to create probabilistic inductive hypothesis from enormous amounts of data – clearly something the unaided human mind can not do. This may be the ‘rocket science’ of our era; but it’s not magic. In this interview Len dispels the mystery & myths surrounding AI. He likens it to a tool. A hammer does not build a house – carpenters do; and so-called AI or supervised machine learning does not cure cancer – scientists and physicians do. According to Dr. D’Avolio – and his expert colleagues, there is no magic to AI. This is not some plug-and-play ‘black box’ that can be let loose to solve all the problems in healthcare. It is not an independent sentient ‘artificial intelligence’ that will somehow supercede and substitute for physicians or physician scientists. To anthropomorphize this technology is fantasy. These tools require tremendous amounts of human expertise & attention – both technical and clinical – to program and manage – hence the term ‘supervised’. Len also dispels the myth that one algorithm can be applied across the board to numerous use-cases. The current reality is that it might require a team weeks, if not months, to create a program for a specific condition or situation. On the other hand, what these tools can help us accomplish is profound and amazing. There is little doubt that this field will transform healthcare delivery – allowing us to deliver much better care at a much lower cost – optimizing outcomes and customizing medical care. There is little doubt that this field will transform the way medicine is practiced – assisting physicians and other providers in ways unimaginable. And, this is not the future – it’s now. Len shares some examples of these benefits. This is an enlightening and inspiring interview in which we synthesize and distill the years of Len’s hard-earned practical wisdom into an hour’s time. You will leave the interview with a greater understanding of machine learning, predictive analytics, and AI in healthcare; and will now be aware of and connected to one of the leading figures in the field.

Jan 11, 20181h 17m

Digital Health and Behavior Change with Roy Rosin

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Roy Rosin, the Chief Innovation Officer at Penn Medicine – the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine. Roy distills the “essence” of his two decades of success in customer behavior change & reveals some of the most critical ingredients. He has spent the past 5 years at PennMed – initiating over one hundred new healthcare delivery projects. Prior to entering healthcare, Roy spent 18 years at Intuit (Quicken & TurboTax), where he was an accomplished executive and then Intuit’s first Innovation Officer. Intuit has been widely recognized for its application of innovation to enhance business outcomes, and Roy was clearly instrumental in that. Roy brings to healthcare a profound acumen in digital technology, human-centered design & super-rapid cycle innovation – which, in and of itself, would have been an interesting topic of discussion. But in this interview, Roy focuses the conversation on what he believes matters most to achieving positive healthcare outcomes – patient engagement & activation. The projects he and his PennMed colleagues have deployed are fascinating – using the techniques of behavioral economics to drive behavior change. And the outcomes are compelling. Roy discusses how PennMed is making improvements in medication adherence, blood pressure control, surgical recovery, hospital follow-ups, cost effective prescribing, readmission rates and ED visit rates. He illustrates the profound impact and leverage that behavior change and patient engagement can have in terms of cost savings as well as life savings. One surprise that emerges in the dialogue is the realization that high impact does not necessarily mean high tech. Some of the amazing results achieved at PennMed come about through surprisingly low tech solutions. The use of texting, for example; or just creating default settings in the electronic medical record that drives tens of millions of dollars of savings via the use of generic medications. One pearl that Roy drops toward the end of the interview is an innovation heuristic he lives by – “Love the problem, not the solution”. He shares stories of how he and his teams have discovered that the stated problem is often not the actual one – and that landing too quickly on a proposed solution often short changes the desired outcome. Roy also introduces us to a new center at PennMed called the ‘Nudge Unit’ – a unique division designed to directly apply behavioral economics onto healthcare delivery. It’s abundantly clear throughout the interview that Roy is a humble leader, innovator and mentor. He repeatedly mentions his colleagues and predecessors by name – and credits them for the results and outcomes achieved. It’s also clear that Roy & his colleagues at PennMed are mission-driven and passionate about creating meaningful results. Roy’s is a refreshing and engaging perspective. If you have an interest in understanding and improving patient engagement/behavior change, you’ll want to listen to this dialogue – and probably more than once!

Dec 18, 201750 min

Digital Health with Mike McSherry, CEO of Xealth

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Mike McSherry, CEO of Xealth. Mike represents a new breed of highly accomplished digital tech entrepreneurs who have spent the past decade or two reshaping the landscape of digital tech; and who are now entering healthcare, ushering in a new era of healthcare delivery – an era that this interview will offer you a glimpse into. Mike’s amazing portfolio of accomplishments includes Swype. It’s an application that is embedded in over a billion android smart phones across the globe; allowing user’s to essentially ‘draw’ words rather than ‘tap’ them out – enabling faster, easier text input. The point here is that Michael and his colleagues are not only technologic wizards. They are clearly world-class experts in user interface (UI) & user experience (UE) – something that is sorely lacking in healthcare! As you listen to the interview, just imagine what healthcare might look like if there were dozens or even hundreds of similar UI/UE digital experts engaged in healthcare across the country – working collaboratively with clinical colleagues. Now, that’s a roadmap for Creating a New Healthcare. In this interview, Mike introduces us to Xealth – an application he and his long-time colleagues have created – that allows any digitally connected app or service to be placed onto a user-friendly platform. For starters, Xealth is a digital formulary – allowing physicians or other providers to ‘prescribe’ an app or service. Physicians can now decide what digitally connected services & apps they want in this formulary – and just like adding a new medication – a new digital app or service can be added in less than a tenth of the time it traditionally takes. The types of services on Xealth at the time of this interview includes traditional apps, but also includes transportation services, home devices such as glucometers and CPAP machines, and even food delivery and transportation services. (Although not discussed in the intervew, keep in mind that, in the literature on ‘social determinants of health’, inadequate food and transportation, along with social isolation, are some of the leading causes of poor health outcomes and avoidably higher costs of care.) The Xeatlh platform also offers automatic monitoring of patients’ patterns of usage, as well as predictive analytics – keeping track of how often, and in what ways patients are using these apps, as well as guiding the provider to better identify which app or service might work better with a particular patient. There are numerous pearls in this podcast. Among them, Mike shares the best piece of his advice he has ever been given, which has guided the way he works; and has greatly contributed to the tremendous value and success he and his colleagues have created together. Most importantly, you’ll hear a fresh perspective on how cutting edge thinkers and doers are attempting to augment and leverage the value proposition in the provider/patient relationship. What we find particularly encouraging from interviews with digital tech gurus like Mike is their unabashed support of physicians and other providers of medical care, and a deep respect for the patient/provider relationship. We have heard this theme repeatedly in this podcast series. Far from disrupting that relationship, these digital tools serve to enhance it. Mike brings an encouraging and inspiring message for providers – a set of support tools that will enhance one’s ability to optimize patient care and augment one’s efficiency. For patients, this should be viewed as healthcare catching up to other industries in terms of customer service, convenience and engagement – making it easier to be healthy. And for payers and healthcare leaders, this represents the emergence of a new paradigm in patient/customer engagement – a novel approach to realize the triple aim of improved healthcare, improved outcomes & more cost effective care.

Dec 10, 20171h 3m

Digital Health with Sami Inkinen, Founder & CEO of Virta Health

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Sami Inkinen, founder & CEO of Virta Health. Sami’s story is remarkable, and remarkably disruptive to healthcare. There are actually 3 stories rolled up into this podcast: (1) the story of Sami Inkinen, (2) the story of the ketogenic nutritional approach (low carb/high fat diet), and (3) most importantly, from our perspective, the story of how disrupt-able healthcare delivery is when you combine cutting edge medical science with leading digital technology. Sami, an immigrant from Finland with a physics background and an MBA from Stanford, co-founded, took public, and then sold Trulia, an online real estate marketplace, for $3.4 Billion. He did this before he was 40 years old. Then he discovered that despite being a world-class athlete (literally—he won a world triathlon championship in his age group), he had pre-diabetes. After researching on his own, Sami connected with two highly published, world-class nutritional scientists who had been studying the ketogenic nutirtional approach for decades. One being Steve Phinney, a Stanford-trained physician with a PhD in nutrition from MIT; and the other being Jeff Volek PhD, one of the most highly published researchers in the ketogenic genre, with over 300 peer-reviewed publications. The three decided to merge cutting-edge medical science with Sami’s software and technology background. And, Virta Health was born—an online specialty medical clinic that reverses type 2 diabetes, without medication or surgery. Their goal – that is, Virta’s corporate mission- is to reverse diabetes in over 100 million people by 2025! There are many remarkable aspects to this story, but just keep in mind that Sami is a guy who had no medical/clinical background, and within a couple of years has a company that is licensed to provide specialty medical care in all 50 states within the U.S. It is our belief that this is not an aberration; but rather an emerging trend that will continue to accelerate as more entrants from the digital technology world make their way into healthcare delivery, and begin to collaborate closely with evidence-based authorities in clinical medicine. [For further evidence of this, you can view podcast episode #16 with Aaron Martin at Providence Health St Joseph; or podcast episode #12 with Sean Duffy at Omada Health; or podcast episode #11 with Eyal Gura at ZebraMed; or podcast episode #6 with Joanna Strober at Kurbo – as other brilliant examples of this trail blazing trend.] Getting back to Sami & Virta Health, the immediate and understandable response to hearing about this might be skepticism. How can you meaningfully connect with patients and treat them effectively via an online service? In this interview Sami shares some early results and outcomes that might surprise you. Virta Health has a Net Promoter Score (broadly used measure of customer satisfaction & loyalty) of 70—on par with Apple, The university-based research studies Virta has conducted to date are showing type 2 diabetes reversal rates of nearly 60%, with adherence of over 80%. It’s still early on, but the results, to date, are promising. And the trail that Sami – and others like him – are blazing, is one that would be very worthwhile listening to and learning from. Disclosure: Dr. Zeev Neuwirth sits on the Industry Advisory Board for Virta. He has been collaborating (non-paid) with Sami Inkinen and his colleagues, even prior to the launch of Virta – driven by a genuine professional and personal desire to improve the care of people with diabetes. Dr. Neuwirth wasn’t going to post this interview publicly because of concerns related to a perceived conflict of interest; but he felt this story was too important not to share. Dr. Neuwirth holds stock options in Virta; but receives no payment or other remuneration for this podcast episode, or any other discussion of Virta.

Dec 3, 20171h 6m

Employer Health with Robert Andrews, CEO of Health Transformation Alliance

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Robert Andrews, CEO of Health Transformation Alliance (HTA). HTA is a non-profit alliance of nearly 45 Corporations who are working to improve the outcomes of healthcare and reduce the costs of medical care. The Alliance includes such names as: IBM, Coca-Cola, 3M, Walgreens, Marriott, Pitney Bowes, Verizon, Dupont, Shell, Prudential and Fedex – to name a few. Rob outlines HTA’s bold mission which is to “fix our broken healthcare system”; to “help companies take better care of the people who take care of them”; and to reverse the perverse incentives of the current Fee-For-Service payment model by paying physicians for value-based preventive care and improved health outcomes. Placing himself in challenging situations in order to serve the public, taking on ambitious goals, and getting them accomplished, is not a new pattern for Mr. Andrews. Prior to his current role at HTA, he served as a Congressman in the U.S. House of Representatives for nearly 24 years. Upon his departure from the House, President Barack Obama praised Rob’s service as “an original author of the Affordable Care Act… and a vital partner in its passage and implementation”. In this interview Rob outlines the three major tactics the HTA is taking in order to accomplish its mission. The first is to lower pharmaceutical spending through appropriately cutting out non-value added costs in the pharmaceutical supply chain. The second is to select provider groups with a demonstrable track record of delivering excellent health outcomes, cost effectively. And the third is to engage employees in becoming proactive participants in their own healthcare. These activities are all informed by IBM Watson Health’s supercomputing analytics. It seems like HTA is well on its way to achieving its goals. They are predicting healthcare savings of hundreds of millions of dollars in the first three years. However, Rob Andrews convincingly argues that HTA’s mission is not primarily about cost; but instead, they are focused on improving health outcomes, which will drive costs down – a win for employees and their employers. You’ll be inspired by the conviction, integrity and energy that Mr. Andrews brings to this critically important task at hand.

Nov 21, 201757 min

Digital Health with Aaron Martin, Executive Vice President and Chief Digital Officer at Providence St. Joseph Health

This is the second of two inspiring interviews featuring the integration of digital health into one of the largest integrated delivery networks in the country. In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Aaron Martin, who came to Providence St. Joseph Health (PSJH) directly from spending nearly a decade at Amazon, where he was an executive – the North American director of Kindle & print-on-demand services. In that role, Aaron led a disruption of the print publishing industry that catalyzed tremendous value for readers as well as writers. What is remarkable about this interview is that, despite being a technical leader in the digital realm, Aaron spends the first few minutes of the interview describing the leadership principles & cultural norms that were critical factors in Amazon’s success. In those first few minutes, what becomes abundantly apparent is that Aaron brings to his work an intense dedication to patients and providers; as well as a unique combination of value-based thinking, authentic leadership, and industry-leading technical capability in healthcare redesign and innovation. In what is an inspiring and refreshing dialogue, Aaron describes the two most important stakeholders in healthcare – the ‘creator’ of value (the provider of care), and the ‘customer’ (the patient or consumer of care) in the healthcare value chain. In this interview, he shares how he views his role as supporting the professional commitment of providers & enabling the ‘sacred moments of care’ between provider & patient. Aaron views digital health & the consumerist approach as integral enablers of medical care, and not as disintermediaries. He also lays out a very clear picture of why and how design thinking, digital health, and a consumerist approach are critical success factors for any organization that expects to thrive in the future healthcare delivery market. With straightforward examples, Aaron demonstrates that, unlike some previous deployments of technology, digital health leads to a markedly better consumer experience for both patients and providers; leverages and enhances the value proposition of providers; improves health outcomes, and solves for major organizational challenges such as access to care, growth and affordability. Aaron and his colleagues hold themselves accountable for producing demonstrable and measurable results – outcomes that matter to patients, providers, and payers.

Nov 20, 20171h 16m

Digital Health with Sara Vaezy, Chief of Digital Strategy for Providence St. Joseph Health

This is the first of two amazing interviews featuring the topic of Digital Health and its integration into healthcare delivery at Providence St. Joseph Health. In this first interview, Sara Vaezy describes, in no uncertain terms, the ‘Existential Imperative’ that makes digital health an absolute requirement and a critical success factor for any organization contemplating a robust future in healthcare delivery. Sara shares two customer-centric examples of how digital health is transforming healthcare at Providence St. Joseph Health – in their on-demand care services (Express Care); and in their Women’s Health offering (Circle). She points out that, far from being a nice-to-do, the consumer-oriented digital health integration is moving “big needles” in terms of access, consumer satisfaction, growth and revenue. Sara talks about the work she and her colleagues are collaborating on – to create a 10X experience that enhances engagement and improves health outcomes. By 10X, she means a patient/consumer experience that is ten times better than what patients currently experience! When asked to describe the personal leadership characteristics that make this sort of transformation possible, Sara has two answers. First – “resilience… in the face of a non-steady state environment”; and second – an “unwavering commitment to what’s best for our patients”. You’ll not want to miss this authentic and insightful interview with someone who is clearly one of the up and coming leaders in the digital health movement.

Nov 16, 201758 min

Value-Based Care with Stuart Levine MD, Chief Medical & Innovation Officer for Agilon Health; Chief Physician Advisor to Google Health Research

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Stuart Levine – one of the most experienced & accomplished physician executives in the realm of value-based care. Dr. Levine has been deeply engaged in providing comprehensive care under global capitation for decades. He brings a clarity and practical wisdom to the complex topic of clinical care & cost stewardship; as well as a deep sense of professional responsibility to high quality, safe & effective patient-centered care. He describes a managed care environment that is both practical and personalized. He also describes a healthcare construct that is rewarding and sustainable for physicians & other providers of medical care. In this in-depth interview, Stuart outlines ‘the six pillars of care’ – a time-tested and proven model for population-based, value-based care. Stuart places a tremendously high premium on spending more upfront & supporting a relationship-based approach to patient care – which he has proven saves both lives & money. He advocates for a human-centered care that is fiscally responsible. The picture that Stuart paints provides us with hope for a better future in healthcare.

Nov 10, 20171h 1m

Health Activation with John Moore MD PhD, CEO of Twine

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews John Moore, the CEO of Twine Health – a patient engagement & health activation platform. Dr. Moore brings an unusual background to his work. In addition to his medical training and clinical background, he is also an engineer, who spent years, after leaving his medical residency, at the MIT Media Lab; where he became expert in the technology of social media & communications, as well as in the science & art of behavior change. This rare combination of clinical, technologic & behavioral expertise led him to reframe the clinical value proposition & to create the Twine platform – which allows clinical teams, patients and their families to work in a highly collaborative and convenient way. Dr. Moore reframes patient engagement in terms of ‘health activation’, in which health becomes a collaborative team activity. The traditional office visits are augmented with ‘micro-interactions’ in which the patient can access a health coach or someone else on their health team when and where they need it – that is, in the rhythm of their own lives. On the Twine platform, medical advice & recommendations are delivered in small aliquots that are highly effective and efficient. It’s a win/win/win situation – patients get what they need, when they need it, & how they want it – in an easy-to-use and convenient format; health care providers’ time & expertise is leveraged & distilled to be of highest value; and clinical outcomes of care and cost effectiveness are greatly improved. There are numerous lessons to be gleaned in this interview, which can inform anyone who is interested in improving patient care & the customer experience in healthcare delivery.

Nov 8, 20171h 1m

Digital Behavioral Medicine with Sean Duffy, Co-founder & CEO of Omada Health

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Sean Duffy, who is one of the most lauded pioneers in the space of digital health & digital behavioral medicine. Sean and his colleagues at Omada Health are clearly trailblazers in numerous ways. The company has used the foundation of a widely-respected, evidence-based intervention — the National Diabetes Prevention Program — and transformed it into a convenient, digital platform that is consumer-oriented, customer-friendly, and that delivers a personalized experience for users. Sean and his team focus their intervention on a specific, clinical population that represents one of our nation’s most significant and growing healthcare problems — those at elevated risk for type diabetes and other obesity-related chronic conditions. While capturing some of the most cutting-edge approaches to behavior change, Omada has incorporated their solution into the mainstream of healthcare delivery, adhering to all regulatory requirements while working to have the intervention coded and paid for like any other billable event. Omada’s plan is not to go around the legacy healthcare system, but to become a working part of it. Sean’s Omada story is one of courage, conviction & commitment – toward taking patient-centered care, the patient user experience & patient engagement to the 10X realm. It’s a story you will definitely want to hear.

Nov 7, 201759 min

The Third Era of Medicine with Dr. Don Berwick, President Emeritus, Institute for Healthcare Improvement

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Don Berwick – widely recognized as one of the most influential & impactful healthcare leaders of our time. His foundational contributions to the quality, safety & reliability movement in healthcare – beginning in the late 1980’s – have led to profound reductions in medical errors in the United States and abroad. Among his numerous contributions, Don co-founded and led the Institute for Healthcare Improvement for 18 years – an organization that has shifted the landscape of healthcare delivery; catalyzed the healthcare quality movement; and whose overall positive impact on domestic & global healthcare is almost immeasurable. He has served numerous key leadership roles such as in the Institute of Medicine (IOM) & the Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services; and has authored and co-authored numerous landmark publications such as the IOM’s ‘To Err is Human’ and ‘Crossing the Quality Chasm’. In this interview, Dr. Berwick provides us with detailed principles for the creation of a “third era of medicine” – an era in which we can more fully realize the goals of the triple aim – better medical care for patients, better health & health outcomes, and lower costs of care; and in which we can support our physicians & other providers of care in performing clinical work that is meaningful and sustainable. Dr. Berwick is an unparalleled physician-scientist-scholar, and a humanitarian leader whose integrity, vision & insights hold practical wisdom and guidance for any leader contemplating the future of healthcare delivery; and whose compelling stories provide us with directed purpose, inspiration & hope.

Nov 5, 20171h 7m

Transforming Medical Imaging – with Eyal Gura, Chairman of ZebraMed

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Eyal Gura, co-founder & Chairman of ZebraMed – an Artificial Intelligence (AI) company dedicated to transforming medical imaging. ZebraMed was listed in Fast Company, in February 2017, as one of the top 10 AI companies in the world; and in Fortune Magazine, also in 2017, as one of the top 50 companies leading the AI revolution. In this interview, Eyal describes his company’s mission to provide the world with automated, accurate, timely & affordable medical imaging diagnosis. The computer machine-learning algorithms at ZebraMed are already reading CT scans and mammograms; and they are continuing to expand their portfolio of medical images. It’s an exciting vision that Eyal paints – one that you will definitely want to hear. His company is mission driven as well – planning to & already delivering high tech radiologic support to underserved communities & countries. One of the most exciting parts of the interview is Eyal’s announcement of their AI1 (All in One) program; in which ZebraMed is going to offer a flat-rate fee of $1 per scan – no matter what. That’s right – $1 per scan! This revolutionary pricing strategy is, almost certainly, going to transform medical imaging & healthcare delivery, by providing access to high quality, affordable medical care for millions of people around the globe. Eyal and his colleagues at ZebraMed are on a bold, courageous & visionary journey to Create a New Healthcare!

Nov 5, 201744 min

Redefining & Redesigning Primary Care with Rushika Fernandopulle, CEO of Iora Health

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Rushika Fernandopulle MD, co-founder and CEO of Iora Health. Rushika and his colleagues have spent the past 15 years building a model of healthcare that is primarily dedicated to optimizing people’s lives through better living – using Primary Care as the foundation. His courageous approach has really set the vision for what Primary Care can and should look like; and numerous other innovative Primary Care redesigns have been built off of the groundbreaking Iora Health model. In this interview, Rushika will unabashedly discuss the critical success factors upon which he will not compromise. He also shares stories which illustrate the simple elegance and amazing potential value of Primary Care. Dr. Fernandopulle ends the conversation with one take-home ‘nugget’: do a team huddle each morning, and talk about your patients, even if it’s only for 5 minutes. Are you up for his challenge?

Oct 29, 201756 min

Patient Engagement with Devin Gross (EMMI)

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Neuwirth interviews Devin Gross, who very recently left EMMI, after many years of success at the helm, as CEO. What becomes abundantly apparent in this dialogue is that Devin is not only a talented executive, but that he has also garnered tremendous insights into patient engagement during his 14 years at EMMI. Topics covered include: (1) the value proposition and ROI of patient engagement; (2) the essential understanding of the differences between patient education, patient experience & patient engagement; and (3) the two, very different, persona’s of the patient and consumer, and why each must be addressed in order for providers to be successful in a value based market. This is a not-to-be missed episode for anyone who is interested in this most critical topic of patient engagement – potentially the ‘holy grail’ of valued based care.

Sep 11, 201755 min

An online program for pediatric weight loss – with Joanna Strober, CEO of Kurbo

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Joanna Strober, the CEO of Kurbo. Kurbo is an online program that can be accessed via a digital app that provides motivational coaching and nutritional dietary guidance to children, parents and families who are attempting to improve their nutrition and optimize their weight. Joanna – a long time investor in technology start-ups focused on families and children – was wholly dissatisfied with the options available to her in helping her own son lose weight. As a result, she turned the Stanford Obesity Program into a consumer-oriented, kid-friendly app called Kurbo. Since 2014, Kurbo has helped thousands of children and their parents eat healthier and achieve a healthier weight. In addition to the physical benefits of weight loss, Joanna illustrates the social, emotional and behavioral benefits of these children learning how to eat better and maintaining a healthier weight. One remarkable story that she shares with us is that the Singapore government – after a side-by-side prospective study comparing Kurbo to their own program – has instituted the Kurbo program in its entire school system – as a government benefit for children who are overweight or obese.

Sep 7, 201751 min

Optimizing Performance in the ‘Last Mile of Healthcare Delivery’ – with Par Bolina MD, Chief Innovation Officer at IKS

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Dr. Par Bolina, Chief Innovation Officer at IKS. Par is a physician & expert in Healthcare Informatics, Electronic Medical Records & Exam Room Ambulatory Workflow. This episode focuses on one of the most critical and under-examined parts of healthcare delivery – the so-called “last mile” – the patient/provider encounter – where the rubber meets the road, and where healthcare value is directly created. To be quite honest – this podcast episode is lengthy; but you won’t want to miss what’s revealed. Dr. Bolina points out that our lack of investigation into and superficial understanding of the provider/patient encounter is what is leading to avoidable care gaps, suboptimal outcomes, inefficiencies, high costs, provider burnout, and less than optimal patient experience. Similar to a Jacque Cousteau, Bolina takes us on a deep dive into this largely unexplored domain, and opens our eyes to the ‘ecosystem of the encounter’ – what might be considered ‘the final frontier’ of healthcare delivery. What Bolina reveals to us is that the provider/patient encounter is filled with real-time data that we could measure and use, to dramatically improve upon healthcare outcomes. Dr. Bolina discusses ‘Scribbles’ – a ‘scribe on steroids’ redesign that he’s developed at IKS. Scribbles is an asynchronous, virtual, off-site physician-scribe/coach who listens to the audio recorded encounters during off-hours, and provides the provider with daily, real-time feedback and recommendations to improve clinical care, documentation & coding.

Sep 7, 20171h 20m

Connecting Schools with Healthcare – Hesky Kutscher, CEO of CareDox

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Hesky Kutscher, the CEO of CareDox. Hesky is an experienced, bottom line entrepreneur who is also driven by a mission to radically improve the system of healthcare for school children. In this episode, Hesky describes the CareDox digital platform which is a 4-way platform that connects school health to parents, pediatricians & payers. CareDox has developed and is deploying a data-rich, analytic, digital platform to support, integrate and enhance the medical care of schoolchildren. As Hesky describes, the application of this approach will result in improved outcomes of care & lower costs through preventive measures such as assuring vaccinations; alerting school nurses, parents & pediatricians of impending problems; and ultimately, through the reduction of preventable & avoidable emergency room visits & hospitalizations.

Sep 5, 20171h 1m

Global Population Health with Cathryn Gunther

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Cathryn Gunther, a seasoned Pharma executive, who discusses her passion and award winning efforts to advance employee health at Merck; and shares a glimpse into Merck’s global population health initiatives. We explore the overlap of employee health, community health & population health.; and discover the potential for employee health to serve as a channel for improving population health. Cathryn leaves healthcare leaders with a wonderfully simple directive, “Make the healthy choice, the easy choice…”

Sep 1, 201744 min

Population Health Perspectives with Bob Matthews

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Bob Matthews, CEO of Medisync & VP of Quality at PriMed Physicians. Bob has been engaged in Population Health & Value Based Care since the early 1990’s and brings a practical wisdom, refreshingly honest insights, and ambitious goals to this increasingly important movement within healthcare delivery. He shares how he has, along with his colleagues at PriMed Physicians, constructed a unique approach to chronic disease management that has led to significantly superior and consistent outcomes. This approach, based on the principles of Six Sigma, makes it easier for physicians to practice good medicine and easier for patients to engage in their own care. Bob teaches us the distinction between pathways, algorithms & processes; emphasizing that ‘a process is a way to make sure that we do the right thing, every time, for every patient, every day… If you don’t have a repeatable process, you don’t have crap!”. Bob drives home the point that embracing payment-for-value and the practice of outcomes-based medicine is the only viable option if we plan to be able to deliver medical care to all Americans.

Sep 1, 201759 min

On-Demand Urgent Care with Tom Charland

In this episode of Creating a New Healthcare, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth interviews Tom Charland, CEO of Merchant Medicine and one of the leading experts in the On Demand/Urgent Care industry. Tom reveals the customer oriented and data driven underpinnings that have led to the sky-rocketing growth of the Urgent Care sector. He also explains how this business orientation can lead to consistently superior clinical care, as well as greater convenience and access, compared to offerings of lower acuity/lower complexity Urgent Care within the traditional Primary Care setting. Tom views On-Demand care as complementary rather than competitive to traditional Primary Care, and describes how providers can and are integrating this into their practices and integrated delivery networks.

Aug 31, 20171h 4m

Creating a New Healthcare Intro

Introduction to a podcast series focused on sharing new perspectives in healthcare.

Aug 17, 201719 min