Crash The Pond: An Anaheim Ducks Podcast

On this episode, we discuss Leo Carlsson's return to play, the fallout from the Cutter Gauthier trade, injury updates, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondJoin our Patreon: patreon.com/crashthepondYouTube: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we break down the Jamie Drysdale trade to Philadelphia, what it means for the Ducks blueline, and what kind of player the Ducks are getting in Cutter Gauthier. Enjoy!Support the show:Patreon community: patreon.com/crashthepondYouTube: youtube.com/crashthepondTwitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!

On this episode, we break down the Ducks' most recent struggles and try to make sense of what's gone right, what's gone wrong, and how to fix it. We also lay out what players the Ducks may move at the trade deadline, celebrate Trevor Zegras's Michigan, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon member: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts

On this episode, we recap the Ducks thrilling 4-3 victory over the Detroit Red Wings, the 2-game winning stream, Troy Terry's return to form, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Twitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondPatreon community: patreon.com/crashthepondYouTube: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!

On this episode, we break down the Ducks latest matchup against the Islanders, what's gone right and wrong in the last 12 games, and updates on Trevor Zegras, Jamie Drysdale, and Mason McTavish. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon member: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts

On this episode, we look at the biggest positives and negatives of the season so far. We give flowers to John Gibson, Pavel Mintyukov, Leo Carlsson, and much more. Enjoy! .Support the show: Go to GreenChef.com/60ctp and use code 60ctp to get 60% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon member: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' recent losing streak and how it can be fixed, John Gibson's strong play, the possibility of Patrik Laine to Anaheim, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks thrilling comeback win in Nashville, Leo Carlsson's hat trick, Zegras's injury, and much more. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' 6 game win streak, Pavel Mintyukov's excellent start, John Gibson standing on his head, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Go to GreenChef.com/ctp250 and use code ctp250 to get $250 off.Twitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondPatreon community: patreon.com/crashthepondYoutube channel: youtube.com/crashthepondShop: Crashthepond.com/shopOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks 4 game win streak, Leo Carlsson's development plan, Trevor Zegras being benched, and much more. Enjoy! Support the show: Twitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondPatreon community: patreon.com/crashthepondYoutube channel: youtube.com/crashthepondShop: Crashthepond.com/shopOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we break down Leo Carlsson's debut, Trevor Zegras's growth, the Ducks' progress as a team, and more. Enjoy!Support the show: Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP and make unforgettable first impressions that lead to the charming words, “you look younger!” #teamcalderaTwitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondPatreon community: patreon.com/crashthepondYoutube channel: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we break down the first two games of the Ducks season, highlight great performances from Mason McTavish, Pavel Mintyukov, Jackson LaCombe, and many others. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comTwitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondPatreon: patreon.com/crashthepondYoutube: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss Jamie Drysdale signing with the Ducks, the latest training camp roster cuts, and our expectations for the upcoming season. Enjoy!Support the show: Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP and make unforgettable first impressions that lead to the charming words, “you look younger!” #teamcalderaTwitch: twitch.tv/crashthepondPatreon community: patreon.com/crashthepondYoutube channel: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

Trevor Zegras is back with the Ducks! We break down the 3-year, $5.75 million deal Zegras signed on Monday with the Ducks. We also talk about Alex Killorn's injury, the Lassi Thomson pickup, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Go to GreenChef.com/60ctp and use code 60ctp to get 60% off plus free shipping.Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the latest on Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, Olen Zellwger's preseason performance, Radko Gudas becoming a fan favorite, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the latest on Trevor Zegras and Jamie Drysdale, standout performances from the Rookie Faceoff, and training camp lines. Enjoy! Support the show: Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP and make unforgettable first impressions that lead to the charming words, “you look younger!” #teamcaldera Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, Derek Lee from the Sporting Tribune and Patrick Present of Inside the Rink/Late Arrivals Podcast join the show to preview the Ducks season, discussing some of the biggest things that interest them heading into the season such as Greg Cronin’s coaching impact, John Gibson’s trade situation, Trevor Zegras’s play, and much more.

On this episode, we discuss an update on the Trevor Zegras situation, and what the hold up could potentially be. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodGet 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP to unlock your youthful glow and be ready for summer with Caldera + Lab! #teamcalderaSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we break down the Ducks trading for Ilya Lyubushkin and what it means for the rest of the team moving forward. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we answer listener questions, including Trevor Zegras romance, off-season moves, Giguere versus Hebert all time, and much more! Enjoy. Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple Podcasts

On this episode, we discuss Troy Terry signing a 7 year contract with the Ducks, Isac Lundestrom tearing his Achilles, and Alex Stalock signing in Anaheim. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the latest in the Troy Terry negotiations, as well as 5 storylines we are most interested in going into the Ducks season. Enjoy!Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP to unlock your youthful glow and be ready for summer with Caldera + Lab! #teamcalderaSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we map out our version of the Ducks depth chart, and come up with our ideal lineup for next season, including forward lines, defense pairings, power play units, and goaltenders. We also discuss Lukas Dostal's contract extension and take listener questions. Enjoy!Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP to unlock your youthful glow and be ready for summer with Caldera + Lab! #teamcalderaGet 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss Troy Terry filing for salary arbitration, the Alex DeBrincat trade, remaining Ducks free agent targets, and much more. Enjoy!Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP to unlock your youthful glow and be ready for summer with Caldera + Lab! #teamcalderaGet 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks signing Alex Killorn and Radko Gudas on day 1 of free agency, the John Gibson scandal, and Alex DeBrincat to Anaheim trade rumors. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 20% OFF with our code CTP at calderalab.com/CTP to unlock your youthful glow and be ready for summer with Caldera + Lab! #teamcalderaGet 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Anaheim Ducks selecting Leo Carlsson at second overall, why they did not select Adam Fantilli, and the new 30th Anniversary jersey. Enjoy! Support the show:Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss what the next few weeks of trades and free agency could hold for the Ducks, including who they should target. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we talk about with Mitch Brown from Elite Prospects about who the Ducks should draft with the second overall pick, as well as rating the Ducks overall prospect system. Enjoy!Support the show: Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks hiring Greg Cronin as the 11th head coach in franchise history, updates on what Trevor Zegras's next contract will look like, as well as the latest John Gibson trade rumors. Support the show: Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, the Late Arrivals crew joins us to discuss who the Ducks might pick with the second overall pick, prospect talk, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show: Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comFollow Late Arrivals Podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LateArrivalsPodFollow Late Arrivals Podcast on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/latearrivalspodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks landing the second overall pick, and who they might take: Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson, Matvei Michkov?Support the show: Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss who will be in a better spot to contend in 5 years and answer your questions. Enjoy! Support the show: Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks hiring Matt McIlvane as the Gulls' head coach and answer your Questions. Enjoy! Support the show: Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the latest on the Ducks' coaching search and the future outlook of the team. Enjoy!Support the show: Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks finishing last and getting the highest odds at drafting Connor Bedard. We also discuss the Ducks letting go of Dallas Eakins. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks' historic stretch of losing, what next year's lineup will look like, and answer listener questions. Enjoy!Support the show:Go to GreenChef.com/ctp60 and use code ctp60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss Nikita Nesterenko's first slate of games in Anaheim, and then provide our own bold predictions about the future of the Ducks. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we hand out individual awards for this season's Ducks, such as Best Foward, Best Defenseman, Most Improved player, and many others. We also discuss Nikita Nesterenko signing with the Ducks. Enjoy!Support the show:Go to GreenChef.com/ctp60 and use code ctp60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we talk about our top storylines to watch as the Ducks season winds down. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we break down the Ducks trade deadline moves, including the John Klingberg and Dmitry Kulikov trades. We then take stock of Pat Verbeek's tenure as general manager: what's gone right, what's gone wrong, and everything in between. Enjoy!Support the show:Go to GreenChef.com/ctp60 and use code ctp60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the latest updates regarding the Ducks' trade deadline outlook, Henry Thrun's singing rights being traded to San Jose, John Gibson's historic hot streak, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we predict what the Ducks can get at the trade deadline for John Klingberg, Dmitry Kulikov, Adam Henrique, Derek Grant, and many others. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the latest John Gibson trade rumblings, Jackson LaCombe signing with Anaheim, and whether or not Jakob Chychrun makes sense for the Ducks. Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we recap the Ducks-Stars matchups, discuss more Adam Henrique trade scenarios, power rank the all-time Ducks jerseys, and much more. Enjoy! Support the show: Go to GreenChef.com/ctp60 and use code ctp60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss our three biggest takeaways on the state of the Ducks at the All-Star break, the Zegras-Stecher controversy, Henrique trade possibilities, and much more. Enjoy! Support the show:Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss Trevor Zegras's recent hot streak, Anaheim's new second line, a full list of Ducks' potential coaching candidates, and much more. Enjoy! Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we recap the Ducks-Penguins matchup, including line changes from Dallas Eakins that placed Trevor Zegras back at center. We also discuss if Adam Henrique to Edmonton makes sense, and also break down the Cam Fowler trade rumors. Enjoy!Support the show:Get 10% OFF tickets with promo code "CTP" at 714tickets.comSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks’ recent lineup changes that have Mason McTavish as the first-line center and Trevor Zegras as a winger on the second line, and what it might say about how the team views both players. We also touch on possible off-season moves, who the Ducks’ greatest goalie of all time is, and much more!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss John Gibson's return to action, whether or not the Ducks should trade Adam Henrique, Anaheim's power play hitting a snag, and much more. Enjoy!Support the show:Go to GreenChef.com/ctp60 and use code ctp60 to get 60% off across 5 boxes including free shipping! Subscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepond Become a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepond Check out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepond Or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Thanks for listening!

On this episode, we discuss the Ducks last week of games, covering standout performances from Lukas Dostal and Mason McTavish, penalty trouble holding the team back, and much more. Enjoy the podcast, and happy new year!Support the show:Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code CTP at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpodSubscribe to our live Twitch stream twitch.tv/crashthepondBecome a Patreon patron: patreon.com/crashthepondCheck out the video version of the podcast: youtube.com/crashthepondOr leave us a review on Apple PodcastsThanks for listening!