Copper State Marching Podcast

The Copper State Marching Podcast is back with an information-packed episode as hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozack dive headfirst into the upcoming 2026 Arizona marching band season! Fresh off the conclusion of color guard season and gearing up for percussion championships, Martin and Matt reflect on the fast-paced nature of the winter season—and the unique joy of watching their own kids fall in love with the marching arts. From proud “band parent” moments to the ever-relatable realization that their children have already seen every viral drum corps clip, this episode kicks off with heart and humor. The spotlight this episode: a complete overview of the 2026 AZMBA show schedule. From the educational and low-pressure Eval Plus events in September to the high-energy regional championships and the grand finale in November, the hosts walk through each key date, location, and what makes every show unique. They also highlight important upcoming events like the Elevate Symposium (August 22), featuring top-tier clinicians and expanded learning tracks for directors, staff, students, and boosters alike. To wrap things up, Martin and Matt share practical advice for directors on how to build a balanced, student-centered competition schedule—touching on everything from avoiding burnout to making space for milestone moments like homecoming. Whether you’re a director, student, parent, or fan of the marching arts, this episode is your go-to guide for the 2026 season in Arizona. Don’t miss it!

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek catch up on exciting band adventures—from an upcoming international performance tour in Ireland to reflections on unforgettable parade experiences. Then, they welcome special guest Dr. Stephen Meyer, Director of Bands at Northern Arizona University, for an in-depth conversation about leadership, teaching, and the ever-evolving marching arts. Dr. Meyer shares his inspiring musical journey from Ohio to NAU, including impactful teaching experiences in Georgia and Texas, and his work with collegiate ensembles across the country. He offers a behind-the-scenes look at NAU’s band program, including their memorable appearance in the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade and how the program continues to grow through community, creativity, and student engagement. The discussion dives into what defines excellence in marching band today, the importance of connecting music to emotion, and how directors can focus on solutions over excuses. Dr. Meyer also highlights the value of drawing inspiration from outside the band world—whether it’s Broadway, film, or even stand-up comedy—to create meaningful and engaging performances. Whether you’re a student considering college band, a director refining your craft, or a fan of the marching arts, this episode is packed with insight, humor, and practical advice to elevate your perspective.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek kick off their college marching band director series with a special guest: Chad Shoopman, Director of Athletic Bands at the University of Arizona. Chad shares his incredible musical journey—from starting trumpet in Texas to performing professionally at Disney and eventually leading the Pride of Arizona. The conversation dives into what makes college marching band such a unique and rewarding experience, highlighting the differences from high school, the life-changing opportunities for students, and the powerful sense of community it creates. Listeners will get an inside look at the realities of running a major collegiate band program, including travel logistics, game day traditions, evolving technology in marching arts, and the importance of leadership and student development. Chad also reflects on memorable performances, the impact of COVID-era bands, and why Band Day remains one of the most meaningful events of the year. Whether you're a high school student considering college band, a director guiding young musicians, or a lifelong marching arts fan, this episode is packed with insight, inspiration, and a deep appreciation for the Arizona band community. Topics include: - Transitioning from high school to college marching band - Behind the scenes of major athletic band programs - The role of technology and social media in modern bands - Why every student should consider marching in college - Memorable performances and career highlights - Celebrating the Arizona band community Special thanks to our sponsors for supporting the Arizona Marching Band Association and helping connect, educate, and inspire musicians across the state.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman sit down with show designer and program coordinator Ryan Springler for a deep dive into the art and strategy behind marching band show design. The conversation explores what a program coordinator really does, how successful design teams collaborate, and why trust and communication are essential to building a thriving band program. Along the way, Ryan discusses his creative process, the importance of developing a broad library of artistic influences, and why designing a show is less like sculpting marble and more like gardening—nurturing ideas, people, and culture over time. The trio also reflects on memorable Arizona shows, lessons from decades of collaboration, and how thoughtful leadership can elevate both student experiences and program success. Whether you’re a band director, designer, educator, or student, this episode offers practical insight into the philosophy, creativity, and teamwork that bring marching productions to life. In this episode, you’ll hear about: - Ryan’s path into pageantry arts and show design - The evolving role of the program coordinator in marching bands - How creativity, research, and inspiration shape a production - Building trust between directors, designers, and staff - Why long-term program development matters more than a single show - Advice for young designers entering the activity A thoughtful and inspiring conversation about leadership, creativity, and the people who make the marching arts possible.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel continue their Director’s Cut series with a special guest: legendary arranger, composer, and educator Richard Saucedo. Known for his 31-year tenure at Carmel High School Marching Band and his work with top ensembles across the country, Saucedo shares insights from decades of experience designing marching band productions. From his early days writing arrangements in high school to helping lead the judging community for Bands of America, Saucedo discusses how his philosophy of show design has evolved. He explains why successful programs start by designing for student success, not ego, and how thoughtful show planning can drive recruitment, retention, and excitement within a band program. Listeners will also get a behind-the-scenes look at the creative process: - Where great marching shows begin (music vs. visual concepts) - How arrangers learn the strengths of each band they write for - The importance of variety, clarity, and effect in show design - Ideal timelines for writing and teaching a marching band production Saucedo also reflects on memorable productions from his career, including the Carmel show “The Tangled Web”, and shares advice for young directors and composers—from studying orchestration to learning the power of silence and musical space. The episode wraps with heartfelt shoutouts to the unsung heroes of music education: small-program band directors and the middle school teachers who inspire the next generation of musicians. Whether you’re a band director, arranger, performer, or marching arts fan, this conversation offers practical insight and inspiration from one of the activity’s most respected voices. Tune in for an inside look at the artistry, strategy, and heart behind designing a marching band show.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, presented by the Arizona Marching Band Association (AMBA), hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel kick things off with a look at the busy spring season—concert festivals, WGI trips, regional events, and community band galas that bring hundreds of students together in celebration of music.Then, we launch the first installment of our brand-new Director’s Cut Series: Leading the Design Process as a Director with special guest Jeff Marchant, longtime director at Rincon/University High School in Tucson.Jeff shares insights into building a nationally respected program known for its distinctive style, professionalism, and community impact. From creating a unified brand identity on campus to balancing entertainment and competitive design, Jeff walks us through his collaborative show creation process—starting with a single piece of music and building outward with trusted staff and designers.Highlights from the conversation include:How Rincon maintains a recognizable “style” year after yearBlending crowd-pleasing favorites with challenging repertoireIncorporating jazz and swing authentically into field showsDesigning with student strengths in mindWhy Jeff values custom-designed shows over pre-packaged productionsThe role of humility, delegation, and hiring experts in sustaining a long-term careerWhy leadership development may be the most important thing his program teachesWhether you're a director refining your design process or a band parent curious about what goes into building a show, this episode offers thoughtful, practical insights from one of Arizona’s most respected educators.Stay tuned as the Director’s Cut Series continues with more outstanding leaders in marching arts design.🎶 Listen in, get inspired, and celebrate the Arizona marching band community with us!

In this part two of a special champion spotlight series, hosts Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel sits down with two of Arizona’s 2025 Class Champions for an in-depth conversation about design, culture, and building programs that thrive.Hamilton High School (Class 3A Champion) Directors Leo Werner and Jason Bullock share the creative process behind their cinematic production The Lost City, inspired by tales of El Dorado and featuring music from Jumanji and Holding Out for a Hero. From dramatic visual twists and storytelling through costume design to cultivating a championship culture that transcends classification, they offer practical insights on:Designing shows students truly buy intoBalancing creativity with budget realitiesBuilding sustainable culture amid staff and roster changesPlanning and revealing next season’s productionLeading with partnership and shared visionCampo Verde High School (Class 4A Champion) Director Matt Kozacek joins the show to discuss Tangled Fate, a dark and theatrical production that blended classical, jazz, and dramatic storytelling—including a jaw-dropping final moment audiences won’t forget. Matt dives into:Collaborating with composers and drill writersTeaching performance authenticity and character commitmentMotivating students through positive culture and “bucket filling”Creating traditions like weekly “Game Ball” recognitionsGrowing a program with long-term vision and heartThroughout the episode, you’ll hear powerful reminders that championships aren’t built on size alone—but on clarity of vision, consistency of culture, and students who are empowered to lead.Whether you’re a director, staff member, student leader, or marching arts enthusiast, this episode is packed with inspiration, practical strategies, and celebration of excellence across Arizona.Tune in and join the conversation shaping marching band education in the Copper State.

In this special champion spotlight episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Martin Hebda and Aaron Vogel sit down with Arizona’s 2025 AzMBA class champions to celebrate their remarkable seasons and the stories behind their success.From Mountain Ridge High School’s 5A championship show “The Summit”—a powerful mountain-themed journey of endurance and artistry—to Mesquite High School’s electrifying 1A-winning Miami Sound Machine tribute that had audiences dancing, and Horizon High School’s dramatic 2A production “Turn to Stone,” inspired by the myth of Medusa, this episode dives deep into the creativity, grit, and leadership that define championship programs.The directors share:The inspiration and source music behind their award-winning showsThe turning points that shaped their seasonsLessons learned from weather delays, flyovers, prop mishaps, and leadership transitionsThe behind-the-scenes work of students, staff, and booster parentsHow culture, motivation, and community drive lasting successPlus, hear their goals for the future—from national aspirations to building lifelong musicians—and heartfelt shout-outs to the families, staff members, and administrators who make it all possible.Whether you're a director, student leader, parent, or marching band fan, this episode is packed with insight, inspiration, and a celebration of Arizona’s thriving marching band community.

In this season finale of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Aaron Vogel and Mark Veach celebrate the end of another incredible Arizona marching season. From surprise fireworks at championships to heartfelt reflections on community, growth, and resilience, the duo recaps highlights from every division—1A through 5A—spotlighting the champions, memorable performances, and moments that made 2025 unforgettable. They also discuss the power of Arizona’s band family, coming together through triumph and tragedy, and look ahead with optimism for the next generation of music educators.Tune in for laughs, gratitude, and a reminder that the spirit of Bandtober lasts all year long.

In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Aaron Vogel and Mark Hodge sit down with two of Arizona’s most respected visual educators, Dan Hoffman and Sierra Rogers, for an inspiring conversation on the do’s and don’ts of teaching visual performance.Dan shares his journey from West Genesee High School in New York to the Arizona marching scene, drawing on his experiences with the Boston Crusaders, Oregon Crusaders, and Madison Scouts. He talks about the importance of building trust with students, focusing on process over product, and prioritizing rehearsal culture before technique. Dan’s advice for educators? Teach with empathy, move slowly and intentionally at the start of the season, and don’t mistake lack of skill for lack of effort.Sierra, an Arizona native, ASU alum, and veteran of The Academy Drum and Bugle Corps, brings fresh perspective on making visual learning fun and accessible. She emphasizes creativity, comfort, and body awareness, reminding instructors that students need space to explore before they can refine. Her biggest “don’t”? Don’t start with the elite-level movement vocabulary you just did in drum corps—start simple, build confidence, and then layer complexity.The conversation also covers: 🎯 How to teach rehearsal etiquette from day one 🧠 The importance of understanding the “why” behind every exercise 💪 Effective cleaning strategies and knowing when to simplify drill 🎶 Incorporating music and creativity to keep visual warmups engaging 📈 Evolving design trends in the marching arts—from the high-drama visuals of the 2010s to a return to strong, purposeful drillThe episode wraps up with heartfelt shoutouts to the mentors who shaped both educators’ careers and a reminder that when you build culture, excellence follows.Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube. Sponsored by the Arizona Marching Band Association and our incredible partners: MVP Apparel, Vic Firth, Band Shoppe, Encore Gifts, Synced Up Designs, Milano’s Music, IMC, Music for All, Mack Pack, Music Celebrations International, School Funder, the Arizona Cardinals, Bravwell Video Creations, and Yamaha.

In the debut episode of In the Lot, Mark Hodge takes the Copper State Marching Podcast on the road to the Eval show at Perry High School. This on-site episode captures the energy, humor, and community spirit of Arizona marching band culture with spontaneous interviews from directors, judges, and staff members across AZMBA.Mark first chats with Joshua Simmons, band director from Cactus High School, who shares excitement about their 2024 production Spy School Musical and why Cactus returns to AzMBA every year. Then, listeners meet the dedicated and entertaining Perry High School band staff, who introduce themselves and even join in some fun impressions of their band director’s famous sayings.The conversation continues with heartfelt discussions about:What people love most about AzMBA competitionsThe support for small and rural bands in the circuitWhy the on-field judge experience makes AzMBA uniqueFavorite marching band memoriesThe worst (and funniest) mishaps on the field—sax bells crushed, tuning slides launched, and even a tuba bell disaster turned choir solo!Later, Mark talks with Jeff Quamo, AZMBA field judge and Chandler High School director, who explains the educational benefits of on-field judging and reflects on his philosophy, humorously known among students as “The Book of Quams.”Mark wraps up with a preview of upcoming content, including interviews with visual designers Sierra Rogers and Dan Hoffman, along with calendar updates and season coverage.

Guests: David Duarte & Bud Hilditch Hosts: Aaron Vogel & Mark Hots Presented by: Arizona Marching Band AssociationIn this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, Aaron and Mark sit down with two longtime leaders of the Arizona band community: David Duarte and Bud Hilditch. Between them, these educators have shaped generations of Arizona musicians and left a legacy of excellence, mentorship, and memories.Highlights from the Conversation:First memories of Arizona Marching Band – Bud recalls the early days of ASU Band Day with massive halftime shows featuring combined bands, complete with uniform inspections and strict standards. David reflects on growing up in Thunderbird’s program, the influence of the legendary Nunamaker, and Cortez High School’s historic state festival championships.Mentorship and inspiration – Bud shares the impact of early mentors like Grant Wolfe and Fred Forney and how traveling to California festivals opened new doors for Arizona jazz. David talks about the many Arizona directors who influenced his career, from Bill Richardson to Phil Hatler, and emphasizes the role of networking and lifelong friendships in the band world.Stories from the field – From playing Jurassic Park for inflatable dinosaurs at U of A Band Day to the unexpected honor of being the first out-of-state band to place at Fullerton Festival, Bud and David recall both funny and defining moments that shaped their students’ experiences.Career highlights – David reflects on leading his band to perform at the Midwest Clinic in 2006, one of his proudest moments as an educator. Bud shares memories of Thunderbird’s international performances and the professionalism of his students on some of the biggest stages in the country.Shoutouts – Both guests end with heartfelt thanks: Bud to his former students and colleagues who shaped his career, and David to his students, colleagues, family, and mentors across multiple districts who made his journey meaningful.

In this episode, hosts Aaron Vogel and Mark Hodge take a deep dive into the excitement and anticipation surrounding the 2025 marching band season. From show themes and design trends to competitive outlooks and educational opportunities, they break down what students, directors, and fans can expect in the months ahead. Whether you’re a seasoned educator, a current performer, or a supporter of the marching arts, this engaging conversation offers insights, predictions, and plenty of reasons to get inspired for the season to come.

In this episode, Mark and Aaron sit down with two first-year high school band directors in Arizona to share insights and tips for a smooth transition into a new program.Ben Lynch, now leading the powerhouse Desert Vista High School band, discusses his journey to DV, how he approaches change as an “evolution” rather than a “revolution,” and gives a sneak peek at next season’s Western Band Association show in Chino Hills, California.Sherri Lindsey, the new director at Paradise Valley High School and an Arizona native, talks about the impact of building the right staff and how pacing the season can set a band up for long-term success.

In this episode, Mark and Aaron dive into all things colorguard with two of Arizona’s top instructors: Keith Casey and Brandy DuBose. They share insights, techniques, and practical advice for band directors looking to build and support strong colorguard programs. Don’t miss it!Keith Casey shares his journey from Georgia horn player to colorguard expert. With experience at JSU, Star of Indiana, and Lassiter HS under Alfred Watkins, Keith eventually helped open a new school and now teaches at Desert Vista HS. A 27-year English teacher, he explains how he cleans guard work, the band director’s role in program development, and key differences between teaching band and colorguard. His advice? “Write to the booms!”Brandy DuBose, ASU Colorguard Director and Blue Knights staff member, brings a wealth of experience from Texas and DCI. She discusses her role at ASU, her broader involvement in the colorguard world, and the importance of clear, manageable instruction. No spoilers for the upcoming season—yet!

In this episode, we welcome Jeff Quamo (Chandler HS) and Rick McEnenay (Flagstaff HS) to share their strategies for designing effective shows on a budget.Jeff Quamo reflects on his journey in crafting high-quality drill and music, beginning at Mesa HS with Robbie Brooks. He’s collaborated with the same arranger for 15 years and began his tenure at Chandler with a show that resonated deeply with the community. His key message: General Effect doesn’t require massive props.Rick McEnenay, a veteran music educator and administrator, emphasizes the importance of listening to the community. At Flagstaff, they incorporate something new into each show. The band regularly performs at NAU Band Day and attends Division Championships to watch, but their greatest pride is the supportive community they’ve built. Rick writes his own drill and co-designs the show with his wife, often opting for off-the-rack solutions for uniforms and colorguard to stay within budget.

In this episode we speak with Matt Kozacek, Director of Bands at Campo Verde HS and the founding and current President of AzMBA and Daniel Berard, retired band director from Colorado, Texas and Missouri and founder of B Elevated Music, Education and Development.Matt shares his timeline in the spring that leads to a successful fall season. Most importantly starting early so that you can plan ahead and let ideas simmer. Campo Verde HS starts this process before their fall season is even over!Dan Berard is the founder of B Elevated, which supports music educators in their journey as teachers and directors. He also speaks about the spring timeline and what to do to plan for a strong fall season. Particularly just evaluating where your program thrives and how to be intentional with your decisions. Be honest with their capabilities and if YOU can't do it...THEY most likely cannot either.

In this episode, Aaron Vogel and Mark Hodge spend some time recapping AzMBA Championships this year.Post-championships, Aaron and Mark discuss their experience at Championships. They talk about the medalists from every division and share their thoughts and favorite moments from the different shows we saw this year.AzMBA looks forward to seeing directors and staff at the AMEA Conference at the end of January! Please find our booth. We also have several exciting things coming for 2025...so be on the lookout for more information.

In this episode we speak with Chad Shoopman, Director of Athletic Bands at the University of Arizona and Matt Kozacek, Director of Bands at Campo Verde HS and the founding and current President of AzMBA.Chad Shoopman discusses his connection to the University of Arizona as an undergrad student, graduate student, drum major and now Director of Athletic Bands. He explains the timeline of his show selection and is excited to celebrate the Sudler Trophy that the Pride of Arizona won this past year. U of A Band Day and AzMBA have had an amazing partnership for several years and are hosting 47 bands on November 2nd.Matt Kozacek has been the Director of Bands at Campo Verde HS for 11 years and talks about some of the "secrets" to the success of the program, including being a community connector, surrounding yourself with great staff and planning ahead. He also discusses how AzMBA came to fruition 10 years ago and some of the things that make AzMBA exceptional and unique.

In this episode we speak with Damon Knepper, Band Director at Ironwood Ridge High School and Denise Hudson, WGAZ Hall of Famer, and staff member for the Sun Devil Marching Band and the FeniX Independent Winterguards. Denise takes us back to her roots in a small town in Iowa where she got her start spinning and participating in pageantry arts. She also discusses the key to balancing family time and is excited about the upcoming tribute to Coach Fleming at ASU. Damon has been at Ironwood Ridge for 9 years and has grown the program significantly. He teaches a music production class and talks about how great it is to reach other students on campus. Make sure to check out his show this year (no students are actually harmed by the bug zapper prop!).

In this episode: We speak with Jeffrey Malone, Band Director at Mountain Ridge High School in Glendale and Nick Peterson, AzMBA Adjudicator joining us from Fort Collins, Colorado.Jeff Malone speaks about his transition into a new role at Mountain Ridge and how great the students, staff and community have been. He also give several tips and ideas for how to achieve so many different ensemble goals that sometimes pile onto his lap.Nick Peterson, from Colorado, discusses his history with the arts and why he chose to get into a more administrative role in music education. He also gives some great ideas on clinic formats and things you can do to improve your ensemble.

In this episode: We speak with Jacob Osorio, Band Director at Sunrise Mountain High School in Peoria and Martin Hebda, Band Director at Casa Grande High School.