Conversations With a Wounded Healer

What if the biggest problem in therapy is therapists who haven't done their own work? Jamie Marich explores recovery, spirituality beyond religion, and why no modality, guru, or system can replace embodied healing. I love show-and-tell as a teaching method, especially because it emphasizes the importance of therapists doing their own work. Dr. Jamie Marich is the perfect participant. They have a substantial catalog of "personal artifacts" to share: growing up inside evangelical Christian nationalism recovery from addiction and participation in AA processing their queerness in an unsafe environment reconnecting to their spirituality beyond organized religion These mementos highlight Jamie's rebel journey back to wholeness and a spiritually fulfilling relationship with God, free from rigid dogma. This conversation challenges therapists to do their own work, move beyond rigid systems, and rediscover wholeness as something already within us—not something we earn. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Frank Gruba-McCallister on why therapy is political, compassion is nonnegotiable, and healing must include social change. If I had to choose one episode to light my way through the collapse of capitalism, it would be this conversation with Frank Gruba-McCallister. Truth is, there's no escaping the darkness of our current timeline. That said, there are dozens of reasons to remain hopeful, and thousands of people (like Frank) fanning the flames of optimism. There's also hella work to do individually and collectively. The end of capitalism will come whether we act or not. Frank offers several tips to therapists who want to operationalize hope and shape a more equitable future: Embody your values - "Not everyone who is awake stays awake." Our inner work is the journey, not the destination. Remain open or awake to new ways of thinking and be transparent about what has shifted for you. Make space for spiritual wisdom - "How can you be whole, which is what health is, by omitting what is the most essential aspect of who you are?" Don't mistake your antipathy for organized religion as rejection of your spiritual curiosity Mindfully engage with liberatory psychology - "We have to empower people to challenge economic and political systems. But that doesn't negate the importance of them doing work with respect to their own development and growth." Ditto for therapists! "There's a way of coming out of this that brings you to a better place," observes Frank. If he can remain hopeful, then so can you and I. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

How Kristen Wynns built an award-winning practice without insurance dependence and with a good dose of humor. Group practice owners have a decision to make right now: continue treading water or get more creative in how they operate. The field of therapy is lucky to have many examples of group practice owners who embody innovative leadership. One of those is my "conference bestie", Dr. Kristen Wynns, author, speaker, and founder of Wynns Family Psychology. Three things practice owners take away from this conversation: You're the owner, not the micromanager. How you delegate tasks, build team confidence, and accept feedback is what either inspires or discourages your team. Fiascos often lead to fresh starts. Humans are terrified of making changes, but sometimes you've just got to take advantage of a surprise reset, even if you don't think you're ready. Times change. So must your practice. New tech! New employees! New competition! Build in time for periodic recalibration. GUEST BIO Dr. Kristen Wynns is a psychologist, author, comedian, and speaker who blends mental health expertise with humor. As founder of Wynns Family Psychology, an award-winning private practice with four locations in NC, and "Kiki" on stage, she empowers others to use laughter for healing, confidence, and connection. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Visit: https://tinyurl.com/GPRPodcast and click on "have a coupon" and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year! Or join our 2026 Authentic Leaders Group and get 1 year of GP(R) membership for FREE! Next Authentic Leaders Group cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy