Commercial Real Estate Pro Network

Today, my guest is Andy Matthews. Andy is a real estate lawyer at Stoel Rives LLP in Seattle, Washington, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Andy Matthews about Real Estate Law. https://www.stoel.com/people/andrew-l-mathews https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-mathews-8716453/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you. Andy Matthews, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Andy Mathews Well, that's a great question, and I know you framed it as switching gears from our last topic, but I think there's a way in which it, it is related to the use of things like AI. And my answer is, the biggest risk that I can think of is failure to stay on top of the things that that impact you and your industry or your your realm, and that applies equally to to me and my clients. I mean my clients, like I said, you know, if we're still using the the AI example, ignore AI and its and its offerings to their great detriment. And for me, I mean, AI is one example, but just, I think, I think the the risk that I face as a lawyer. It's really easy to to spend my days, as you alluded to, you know, like, like every other lawyer out there I I charge my day is based around the billable hour, and so anything that that I do that's not a work that that is billable to my client, is something that that is outside of what are the Core expectations of me as as a, as a, as a lawyer in my firm. And yet I my if I were to focus solely on the billable hour, I would be doing both myself and my clients a great disservice, and for that reason, I spend a good chunk, I try to spend, anyway, a good chunk of every day on things that I that I don't have the ability to Bill any client for. But the purpose is to make sure that I'm staying ahead of the game, that I am aware of what's going on in the industry, that that in which my clients operate, so that you know when, when, when a client does come to me with a problem, that I am able to bring a level of expertise to it, that that is helpful to them, and that that is is not just legal advice, but advice based on a business, business judgment and business understanding of how they are operating. https://www.stoel.com/people/andrew-l-mathews https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-mathews-8716453/

Today, my guest is Michelle Hamilton. Michelle Hamilton spent 30 years as a strategic leader in commercial real estate and the AEC sector, before focusing on one of the biggest challenges in enterprise technology, the gap between AI investment and actual workforce adoption. She founded spark AI strategy to help organizations close the gap, and was recently recruited by answer rocket, a global AI transformation firm serving mid market and fortune 2000 companies to design and lead their new AI adoption and change management division. And in just a minute, we're going to speak with Michelle about how to bridge the AI gap between corporate roadmaps and workforce reality. https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellehamiltonai/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Michelle Hamilton, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Michelle Hamilton I think the biggest risk. And it doesn't matter how big of a company you are, you could be a small business, a two person shop, or a 10,000 person shop, if you start investing in AI tools, technology, and you don't invest in your people and teach them how to use it for the outcomes you are expecting, then you will not realize your ROI and waste your money. It is the people that have to be invested in so that they understand how to use this unbelievable piece of technology to continue doing their job, so that they are not only creating incredible efficiencies, but it is also allowing them, as humans, to go back to being humans and not being stuck behind a computer screen for eight hours a day, but actually having their AI work alongside them so that they can continue to build business and build relationships, human to human, you have to invest in the people alongside the technology, and don't assume that your IT department is the one that should be providing that they are there to protect you, not to explain to the Business Development Division how to take it to a conference with them. https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellehamiltonai/

Today, my guest is Jens Nielsen. Jens Nielsen immigrated from Denmark in 1996 and after a successful career in IT, he followed his passion for real estate and coaching and became a full time real estate investor and certified high performance coach. And in just a minute, we're going to speak with Jens Nielsen about using systems and mindset to create financial returns and meaningful impact. https://jensnielsen.us/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Jens Nielsen, what is the biggest risk? Jens Nielsen Yeah, I mean, the way I look at risk is now is little bit different. I look a lot more protecting the downside. Right in the past, it was all well here, all the ways it can go well and, you know, we can make a lot of money and so on. You know, practical experience has shown that it could also go bad, and if, when it does, make sure you protect your downside, right? So that could be, you know, insurance is one way. I mean, as I mentioned before we started recording, we just had a fire in one of our buildings that shut down the whole building for months. I mean, that's where we have to transfer the risk to the insurance company, obviously. So that's one thing. But even in deals that may not go so well, you know, we try to protect capital and so on. But if that doesn't work, are we actually protecting ourselves through, you know, doing non recourse loans and other things like that, right? So I'm really focused on right now protecting the downside, because the downside is what can crush you, the upside is what gives you wealth, right? And so that's has been that has been more and more in my mind to protect the downside, if that makes sense. https://jensnielsen.us/

Today, my guest is Gino. Barbaro. Gino is an investor, certified money coach, entrepreneur and podcast host. As an entrepreneur, he's grown his real estate portfolio to over 1900 multifamily units and 450 million in assets under management, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Gino Barbaro about multifamily investing and money coach. https://jakeandgino.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@barbaro-360

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Gino Barbaro, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Gino Barbaro That is an excellent question. I can look at risk from my own perspective in my life as when I look at risk, what is the risk of not doing something? If I had been at the restaurant back in 2008 and I would have said, You know what? It's too risky. I've got a nice little small business. I'm hanging out. I'm doing okay, and that's what a lot of people out in society right now. They have a comfortable job. They're not looking around. They think that there's no risk involved in that. Whatever you do in this world, whether you're working for yourself or you're working for an employer, there is always risk involved. Choose risk accordingly. I had that picture in my mind of, you know, becoming getting into my 60s and being stuck in a kitchen doing something that I hated. What's more riskier than that? I mean, I don't care how much money I lose and doing whatever, but to me, that picture was scary as hell. There was a lot of risk involved in that, and I didn't want to live my life that way. Now, how do you mitigate the risk? I remember being in the laundry room with my wife. It was around 2012 and I looked at her, I smelled like garlic. I just come home from the restaurant, and I said, Julia, I can't take this anymore. I need to leave New York, and I need to get out of the restaurant business. And she looked at me, and in about three seconds she said, Okay. I was shocked that she actually said, okay, but I think she looked at the pain on my face. Now, the reason why I'm telling you this story is what I proceeded to do after was to try to minimize the risk. At that point, I was all in with real estate. I said to myself, If my wife is give me the grace, and is giving me the permission to get into this venture full time. I need to give it my all. I need to learn, and I need to dedicate time and become an expert in the craft of real estate. Forget about single family homes, forget about self storage, forget about Bitcoin. Focus on multifamily, and I proceeded over the next three to four years to really become an expert in investing in real estate, that's probably the best tip that I can give you on minimizing risk, is to become an expert in whatever you're getting yourself into before you put that first dollar into an investment exhaustive join mentorships groups, go out there and learn how to become an. Investor, read tons of books, see what other people have done as far as becoming experts in that specific area. To me, that was the best thing. When she said, Yes, I couldn't let her down. And I knew that, and it's funny, because she had confidence in me. She knew that I was going to work hard. So for me to know that I'm like, I can't let her down. I can't let my family down, so that's why I plowed in. I even ended up opening up the Jake and Gino community because I knew that was a way for me to start learning. I started a podcast because Darrin gross told me would be a great idea. I wrote a book. All of a sudden, I'm learning all of these things about real estate. That's probably one of the better ways to actually start mitigating the risks is by becoming an expert in what you're doing, ultimately, you're trying to avoid the downside risk. And then for us in the real estate space, we created that framework. And I work with frameworks, whether it's buy, right, manage, right, finance, right, whether it's the three pillars of real estate, whether it's a negotiation framework that we use, you have to really understand to limit that downside risk you're looking at it, and for us to limit the risk is to have more of a long term approach. If you're trying to do something with a short window and less time, there's more risk involved in something like that. But we know if we buy an asset, we buy it with good fundamentals, we buy it in a good market that's growing, if we are able to be able to cash flow, put good debt on that. That's going to limit my downside risk going forward. Now. https://jakeandgino.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@barbaro-360

Today, my guest is Daniel Daly. Daniel didn't start in real estate, but after he scaled an automotive startup to 600 million, then built a cross border European real estate portfolio. Today, he leads a Portugal Golden Visa eligible hospitality fund focused on experiential assets, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Daniel Daly about short term rental properties. https://globalipllc.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-daly1/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Daniel Daly, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Daniel Daly The biggest risk for investing in short term rentals in Europe, from my perspective, it's the same as any other investment in real estate. Maybe Location, location, location. So you know, the biggest risk is, did I pick the right place to invest in? That is the location where everybody wants to go. Am I in? Ring one, that avoids the risk. Ring two, minimizes the risk. Ring three, it's risky, right? You're further away. It's cheaper, yes. But generally risk one avoids risk ring one avoids most of the risk is, I want to be in a location where people want to go to, where people are visiting, where are things that they want to make their trip easily accessible, whether it's train, bicycle, walking. So that was the biggest risk is, what's the location? Do we feel confident in it and minimizing the risk would then just be if, for some reason, we couldn't afford that ring one to go to ring two. But I do everything that I can to avoid ring two. I don't want to minimize the risk. I want to avoid it by being as close as possible to having the perfect location that people want to come and stay at. https://globalipllc.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-daly1/

Today, my guest is Mark Shuler. Mark Shuler RA is a licensed architect in the states of Washington and Texas with more than 35 years of professional experience as an architect, engineer, business owner and real estate investor as president of SGRE investments, Mark pursues value add opportunities that leverage his professional background and capitalize on his skill sets as an architect and real estate investor, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Mark Schuler about the reasons why multifamily value add investing make a great investment strategy. https://www.linkedin.com/in/shulerarchitecture/

J Darrin Gross So if you're willing, I'd like to ask you. Mark Shuler, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Mark Shuler I have a pat answer for that. The biggest risk to real estate is government. That's what I was alluding to. And beginning of this conversation, the West Coast Seattle is as Uber blue as it gets. You have a lot of well meaning city councils and county councils trying to address significant housing crisis that exists throughout the entire country right now. And they, rather than letting the markets Mark operate efficiently. They get in there and they they throw roadblocks in it, and we can't produce enough housing as a consequence, then we have a supply problem, and they enact rent control and other pieces of legislation that make the operation of real estate even more difficult. I That's why I left Seattle. I can't do it here anymore, specifically because of that. So that's one thing you know. You've got to look at the the risk posed by your local government, and see if that you know, if you can develop hedges against that risk. I when I first got into the business, I could do that in western Washington, but they it just became apparent after a while, there was so much legislation being layered on that the hedges were disappearing left and right, and so I made the choice that I couldn't do it here anymore. I had to find marketplaces that were more fair. And also, I will say this is a political side. I mean most politicians, politicize housing as if it's a fight between corporate interests and you know, you know tenants who don't have any control over their lives. You know, that's the nature of renting. Most operators I know are very hard working people and are doing the best they can in a pretty oppressive regulatory environment. There's no cabal of operators out there colluding and setting rents. And Berkeley just learned a big ass lesson about this where they. They tried to sue. Who was it? You know, that online platform, real page, claiming that real page was setting rent prices in the marketplace, and they were like taking them down real page. Those are, those are some tough guys, and they did not back down from a fight. Sued the shit out of Berkeley. Berkeley tucked tail and back down because they knew they were going to lose and lose big. So this issue is very emotional. It gets very politicized. It plays well on an election cycle, and so I just get tired of it. I just want to do my job. I really want to do my job and not have this white noise distraction that I have to deal with. But unfortunately, that's what that's the biggest risk I see in real estate right now. Then you you layer on top of that, this the politics in general, what I what really concerns me. Now, in addition to that, the other big risk is, this is just our political environment. It's so but, you know, bifurcated, and it's so politicized and the conversations are so extreme, there's no more middle ground, and there are only two or three things that control our entire economy, oil and bonds. And you know, if it seems like every time Trump opens his mouth about tariffs, the bond market Spike 25 basis points, I was in the middle of a refi three weeks ago, and he, he kind of went on his tariff tantrum again, cost me $250,000 that's, that's the impact bond rates have on, you know, the cost of doing business. I was in the middle of refi. I had to do nothing but suck it up and, you know, sign that loan in one day, I lost $250,000 on a refund. So government is a, you know, housing is one of the most nuanced and market driven things I can think of. It responds to supply and demand. The players are in it, who are in it, who are really good their market, they're they're watching this all the time. And contrary to popular belief, the margins in real estate are thin. They're not that great. So if the market swings wildly like that, how do you how do you do business? You can't make you can't plan for 612, 18 months down the road, which is that's the long, the length of time we think about. We're thinking in terms of multiple years cycles. And when you have this volatility in marketplace, how do you make business plans? That is in large part why we have such a housing crisis in this country that and the cost of labor, the cost of materials, has spiked dramatically. It's just more expensive to put up housing. But then you layer on all this government nonsense, this is really hard to build housing, and that's and as a consequence, supply, demand being what it is, price of housing goes up, rents go up. I don't know a developer out there that would not love to build affordable housing, but they can't afford to do so. That's my soapbox. https://www.linkedin.com/in/shulerarchitecture/

Today, my guest is Caleb. Christopher Caleb is the founder of Creative TC, DOS Guard and Creative Title Company. He's a cyber security expert specializing in creative finance, risk management and ethical business building, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Caleb about Creative Finance Mechanics. https://creativetc.io/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Caleb, Christopher, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Caleb Christopher I'm going to answer with a categorical answer. I think the biggest risk is any risk that you either refuse or fail to identify and seek to address, like you talked about, what bucket can I put it in? Can I transfer it or do I have to accept it? But the ones where you don't have the eyes wide open, the ones that catch you unawares, are the biggest risks. So I think the biggest risk comes from a reluctance to engage either JV partners or consultants or attorneys or any general education, leaving yourself open to be blindsided by something you didn't see coming. That is very well said. Eyes wide open and make sure you understand the risk. That's good. Caleb, where can listeners go if they'd like to learn more or connect with you? https://creativetc.io/

Today, my guest is George Thomas. George Thomas is the founder of Financial Freedom Builders, an organization helping families build confidence with money. And in just a minute, we're going to speak with George Thomas about Money and Wealth Building Concepts. https://www.thefinancialconstructor.com/

J Darrin Gross If you're willing, I'd like to ask you, George Thomas, What is the BIGGEST RISK? George Thomas By far, the best the biggest risk, is not investing. You know, to darrin's point about, can you avoid it? You could try to avoid it. You can put it into the savings account, and you could, you know, avoid the market because you're worried about what could happen with your money. You could, but you run the risk of having to work tirelessly and getting nowhere the rest of your life. So that that so that moves that, that moves that away. The second piece is, is, can you? Can you mitigate it in some regards? So you, you can do things to help you mitigate some by understanding what the strategies are when it comes to investing, right? Does carry risk? Yes, you could be in the wrong investment, and it could turn into a true disaster. So what you do there to mitigate is to get the education you need to be able to use what you know is necessary for you to get to your end destination, which is financial freedom. And then you talked about transferring risk. Transferring risk is, is you can transfer risk through investing. If you enter strong, long standing companies at discounted prices. If you can do that, all strong companies eventually, although they go on sale, they do rebound and then continue upward, because they are true companies that are profitable revenue generating with significant shareholder interest. So if you can get strong blue chip companies at a discount and then enter your investing, you're transferring the risk back to the company to help to for them to continue to perform and be those companies. So if you're into Microsoft, your videos and all these other ones, again, this is just examples, not financial advice, but if you can find these companies at a discount that can help you transfer some of the risk and concerns you may have about investing, transfer it back to the company that you're investing into for them to continue to perform. So the greatest risk is not investing, because if you don't invest, how exactly are you planning to get to your end destination with your financial goals for you and your family and most people that don't invest end up working tirelessly and long and missing out on important things that were important in their life, and if they would have just had just a little more of their most valuable asset time, they would have been able to do and enjoy life the way that they ultimately would have. So that, to me, is a great risk and not one I'm worth taking. So we got into investing. https://www.thefinancialconstructor.com/

Today, my guest is Nick Deangelo. Nick Deangelo is known as the Fixed Income Goat in real estate circles, with a $206 million plus portfolio, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Nick Deangelo about fixed income. https://saintinvestment.com/ saintinvestment.com/book

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Nick Deangelo, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Nic Deangelo The biggest risk, I'll give you the biggest front side and the biggest backside. Biggest front side is always going to be due diligence on our side, we have beaten that to death. We have overlaid many economic factors. Our due diligence confidence is at an all time high. But what I see in the marketplace is many people not doing the due diligence to a real, true conservative estimate of outcomes that is the biggest risk. And we saw that the last few years. And we see the back end of what that looks like, the optimistic, the rosy projections, things like that, and that's consistently what we see. And then on the back end, let's talk portfolio strategy. We have over 600 mortgages. We got, you know what, 19 syndications that we've done, the number one risk that I've seen on that side is not thinking long term. I know I beat that to death, but in the same vein of the underwriting and being over rosy with your projections and not really looking at the real numbers and the real economic data on the back end of a portfolio, if you're not thinking long term, and you're not thinking. How these pieces come together, and you're not thinking about how the management performs consistently over a long period of time, then you see shortcuts evolve. You see bad systems evolve. You see all kinds of shorter term thinking that lead to much bigger, snowballed problems later on. So if people are heavy on their due diligence on the front end and know exactly what they're trying to target and whether or not something is specifically in their Buy Box or not, and how to get that information effectively. That's one piece. And then on the back end, it's building everything for stress testing over a long period of time, thinking about a portfolio in that same vein. So if you're doing those two things, I think you're going to be very, very, very well hedged against stress and risk in the future. https://saintinvestment.com/ saintinvestment.com/book

Today, my guest is Cary Prejean. Cary Prejean, is the founder of Strategic Business Advisors LLC. Cary vision is to work with business owners to dramatically improve cash flow and profits, business autonomy and long term strategic planning. And in just a minute, we're going to speak with Cary Prejean about maximizing profits and cash flow. https://strategicbusinessadvisors.org/ [email protected]

J Darrin Gross I would like to ask you, Cary Prejean, what is the BIGGEST RISK?. Cary Prejean You talk about big risk for business owners, J Darrin Gross yeah, however you want to, however you want to identify it. Cary Prejean Well, I mean, that that's why I deal with business owners, right? The biggest risk for them is, is not paying attention. You know, not paying to get lost in the weeds, not paying attention. What's out there, not. Not, not anticipating some threat, as you call it, and they don't know they have they haven't even thought about it. They haven't even seen it. So there's no mitigating it. There's no transferring it. There's no navigating around it. It just hits you like an iceberg. You know, you have to pay attention to that kind of stuff, and that's why it's good to have, as you said, you know, you come in and you you take a very risk, Central, centric approach to what risk are out there, and what can you mitigate? What can you alleviate? What do you what can you transfer? I think that's a I've never heard it discussed that way, but I like the approach. So if you're not, if you're not paying attention to everything that's out there, it's not just insurable risk, but other risks that are out there, you're going to get blindsided. You know, you fly blind. If you fly blind, you will hit something eventually. https://strategicbusinessadvisors.org/ [email protected]

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Charles Gaudet, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Charles Gaudet Well, we mentioned risks earlier, of you know, between the marketing risks and the operational sales risk and all that other stuff. But right now, there's the risk of the unknown. And when I say that every single business is being disrupted by AI already, as it sits right now. The thing is, is, if you look back at 2025, and you ask most people, have you been disrupted by AI? Most people will say, No. You'll ask them, okay, what have you found about your business? And they might say, well, leads have been harder. Sales have been harder. Business just feels harder. And when you ask them why, they'll say things like, make a political maybe it's Trump, maybe it's the economy, maybe it's this, maybe it's that, but it's this. Is the thing that they don't realize. They actually have been disrupted by AI. You see, 60% of all their organic traffic has disappeared between January of 2025, and December of 2025 that traffic disappeared because of AI. If you go to Google and you type in any of the buying search terms, you'll notice AI overviews start to get respond with different answers and so forth, and they're not just giving the website. If you go to perplexity and you type in a perplexity, they give you answers. They don't just give you the website. If you go to Atlas, for those who are using it, or chat GBT, you know, they'll give you answers, they don't give you the website. And so the result of that is we are being disrupted by AI as it stands right now. Do we think that trend is going to continue? Well, yes, it's going to continue. And there's disrupting technologies that unlike the web, when the internet came around and it was like, if you're not on the internet, then you don't exist, that took years before it got to that conclusion where, if you weren't on the internet, that didn't exist. But now what's happening is Google didn't ask your permission to change their algorithm. They just did it, and that started to reduce the search. There's a new browser that's coming out that Google will be launching any minute now that it's already on beta, called disco. Nobody really knows what's the impact that disco is going to have on organic search behavior. I have a client, eight figure client, and I was able to take him into the future and show him some of the future browsing activities that are going on. And you know, when this goes live, the impact. And so we typed in a buying keyword, and what ended up happening to him is AI literally said, here's the reviews of everything that's going on. The thing is, is you can also do it yourself. Would you like me to create a system and a and the emails and this and that, to do it yourself? And he was like, wait a minute, what's happening right now? And I'm like, This is why I'm showing you this, because we can prepare if we know in advance another situation. Somebody turned around, he has a product, and they go, let me take you in the future. Let's take a look what's going to happen. He put it into the into the product, and it said, here's the reviews and here's my concerns. Would you like me to show three other products based on everything that I know about you that might be better suited. And he goes, what is happening right now? I didn't think my competition would be AI. I thought it was going to be the other products in the category. And this is why we're taking you into the future, so we don't know how the extent of the disruption that we're going to be faced with, but we do know we're already being disrupted, and we will continue to be disrupted, so there are still some core fundamental things that people can put into place and into action to minimize that disruption. Have a strong unique advantage, continue to put out great, high value content that people will consume. To build that loyal fan base, build your following, build your community, build that brand awareness, and that will help to to mitigate build partnerships. Partnerships are wonderful way that helps to mitigate the. Impact of AI, but everybody's going to be everybody's going to be disrupted. The beautiful thing is that what you will see by the end of this year, the people who are the most strategic are going to have an outsized advantage over everybody else, and you will begin to see a case shaped bit of the economy. The most strategic people are going to go ahead, and they're going to get a massive advantage, and those less strategic are going to fall by the wayside, because AI is going to they're fighting for survival. AI is going to continue to guide you towards the best competitor, the best company, the best service, the best product, and it's going to continue to align itself with the best so you can't afford to be mediocre anymore. You have to be strategic. https://predictableprofits.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesgaudet

Today, my guest is Charles Gaudet. Charles is the CEO of Predictable Profits. He has helped clients generate over a billion in revenue by solving The Founders Trap where successful entrepreneurs become their businesses biggest bottleneck, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Charles Gaudet about escaping The Founder's Trap. https://predictableprofits.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesgaudet

Today, my guest is Christopher Tiessen. Christopher is the president and CEO of Klaus Multi Parking America Inc, Christopher Tiessen spearheads the US sales and operation subsidiary of a global leader in premium parking systems, Clos multi parking, GmbH. https://us.multiparking.com/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you. Chris Tiessen, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Christopher Tiessen The biggest risk, in my mind, is for our industry, that we're seen as a commodity is as seen as somebody that is not necessary between because before they go into the risk of getting mechanical parking and maybe the system not working, I will just, you know, let the whole project go away and not do the project. So that's our biggest risk that all of our companies in this industry are working against, and also that conventional parking is more attractive still than mechanical parking, even though we have so many advantages to it, and it's more of the company behind it to actually manage these risks, and, you know, take on these risks of the uncertainties of our client, and just put them in ease. That mechanical parking is the step to the future. It's only the step to the future. It is always already present here, and that with this, you can open doors to your development that you did not think before. And typically, if we have developers in there, have been using mechanical parking for the first time. They don't go back because it's just opened so many doors for them. https://www.abgmultifamily.com/

Today, my guest is Ashley Garner. Ashley is a seasoned real estate entrepreneur and founder of ABG and Associates with over 30 years of experience, he combines analytical rigor and hands on property management to consistently deliver strong, cash flowing returns to his investors. And in just a minute, we're going to speak with Ashley Garner about value add, deal making, real world stories and lessons from transforming underperforming properties into profitable, high yield investments. https://www.abgmultifamily.com/

J Darrin Gross If you're willing, I'd like to ask you, Ashley Garner, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Ashley Garner I think the biggest risk is to be under capitalized and and ultimately, you know, a property can go up in value, or the the P and L can show a profit, but if you don't have enough cash flow to pay the bills or make the repairs that you need to make, or make the improvements you need to make, then you you're in a tight spot, and that puts everything at risk, and that's an avoidable risk to not be under capitalized. But the temptation is so great a lot of times to say, I'm going to just manage this myself and save that money, or I'm going to turn units out of operations. I'm going to use the money from operations to improve units. And then, unfortunately, then a water leak happens, or something happens, and you need to do 10 at once. Well, you don't have enough money to do 10 at once, and now you can't rent them, and you're in trouble and so, but if you've got a nice. Just reserve pile of cash, so to speak. Then you you may not enjoy spending it all right now, but you can, and you can stay online, and you know you can survive. So being without enough capital is 100% in my opinion, the biggest risk. And I know that's not necessarily an insurance thing, but I know you didn't ask for just an insurer. I do. I do have a I do have a physical risk that i is my number one but, but the under capitalization is my biggest risk. https://www.abgmultifamily.com/

Today, my guest is Kenny Bedwell. Kenny Bedwell is a seasoned real estate investor and entrepreneur known for helping high income professionals identify and acquire short term rental properties that generate strong cash flow. And in just a minute, we're going to speak with Kenny Bedwell about short term rentals versus boutique hotels. https://www.instagram.com/kenny_bedwell/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-bedwell-9680a8113/ https://www.strinsights.com/

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you. Kenny Bedwell, what is the BIGGEST RISK? Kenny Bedwell So you know, I the biggest risk. I think that this the answer I was going to give you originally, and I kind of talked about it, so I'll move on from it, but it's regulation. Regulation changes. You're in trouble that is a huge risk to any investment. But the risk that I don't really hear often talked about. In our space is actually safety, guest safety. So I'll give you a stat. This is a real stat by there's a there's a guy Justin Ford, he's a safety expert in a short term rental space, and guests are so people are more, 10 times more likely to have an accident in a short term rental than in a hotel. And so there is an inherent amount of risk with hosting people in a property, especially people on on vacation. 70% of people that go on that stay at short term rentals admitted that they like to, you know, drink when they're on vacation. There's nothing wrong with that, obviously, but like, 70% of people, adults who are going and staying in a property are going to drink it when alcohol is involved. And there's, you know, the that increases the chances and the risk of things happening. And I personally, too, I mean, I could go and do a whole story with you that we could do a whole nother podcast episode on where I've had, I've, I've been in lawsuits before, of short term rentals for slip and falls and other things where people were not being careful. And I swear to this day I would, I would love to get the data and the metrics on this, how low people's IQs drop when they go on vacation, because they drop pretty fast. It's crazy. Some of the questions I get where it's like, yeah, just, you know, turn that on, or press that button that says on, and you're good to go. You know, like, people don't really think critically when they're on vacation. And, I mean, why would you you're kind of putting that, you know, putting everything on pause and taking a break, but that increases risk of accidents actually happening. And so I know, I know, you know, you know, you kind of mentioned, like, oh, about it, you know, it's not about insurance, but for short term rental host, it really is. It is very, very, I'm a testament to this personally, it's very important that you get really good insurance, because that it can save you on a rainy day. And you also need to make sure that you have you work with your insurance company and know, you know, if you need to have extra signage or, you know, the the smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, fire extinguishers, is, are they easily accessible? All of my fire extinguishers are mounted in places that you can visibly see. And I've got multiple I put extra safety things in all of my properties because it's just to protect people, because the likelihood of that happening is so much higher than just a long term rental or someone staying at a hotel. And so all these things are super critical. And you know, the last thing that you want this is really, this happens every single year. It happens. Find out, you know a child drowned in your pool. You know, that's a big lawsuit on your hands, and so it's so important that we have these protections, especially short term rental hosts and hotel owners as well, that that protect us in the event of any of these worst case scenarios happen, because they really do, and we can't, you know, turn a blind eye to that other people happen and say, Oh, that won't happen to me. https://www.instagram.com/kenny_bedwell/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-bedwell-9680a8113/ https://www.strinsights.com/

Today, my guest is Joe. Downs. Joe is a lifelong entrepreneur with business ventures spanning securities, mortgage, hospitality and real estate industries. He co founded the bell Rose group to pursue opportunities within the niche Self Storage sector of commercial real estate, and in just a minute, we're going to speak with Joe downs about pro storage. What is it and why we need it. [email protected] https://selfstorageacademy.com/