Come Get Your White People
Wanda Swan
Show overview
Come Get Your White People has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 170 episodes, alongside 4 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 110 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 33 min and 46 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. It is catalogued as a EN-language Education show.
There hasn’t been a new episode in the last ninety days; the most recent episode landed 4 months ago. The busiest year was 2023, with 48 episodes published. Published by Wanda Swan.
From the publisher
"Come Get Your White People" is a podcast for the change agent at their wit's end. You're dedicated to dismantling White Supremacy, but tired of arguing with your loved ones, friends, neighbors, strangers at the gas station, and damn near everyone else about the fact that anti-Blackness is a REAL thing. Your effort seems to be in vain and you're running out of arguments and fire, right? GOOD. Your arguments sucked anyway. No shade...slight shade. How do I know? Because I'm an anti-oppressive coach who has spent the past 15 years standing in rooms making liberation a tangible goal for thousands of White-identified and White-assimilated folx. I've heard every counter-argument there is and I've crushed them all. Let me guide you to better language and compelling arguments for a better world. Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Follow @startbytaking on Instagram and Facebook
Latest Episodes
View all 170 episodesEp 165165: Why Is Your God So Small?
Religion in this country is generally separated by race and Wanda asks about your God. A liberatory God is a big God, a God that is too big to fit inside of Whiteness. So consider what you believe about your God and the message you receive from your church. Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 164164: If You See Somebody Stealing, Bitch, No You Didn't, Part 2
This episode is a continuation of the conversation started in the last episode. Wanda reiterates how poverty is used to sustain oppression and shares what you can do to take action against it. Please see the list of resources below. Food Feeding America's food bank locator: https://www.feedingamerica.org/find-your-local-foodbank FoodPantries.org and AmpleHarvest.org for local produce and pantry lists. 211 (United Way's helpline) - local food aid and housing resources. Community Fridges and Mutual Aid https://mutualaidhub.org Summer EBT and Community Eligibility Provision No Kid Hungry text line: text "Food" or "Comida" to 304-304 Financial Support modestneeds.org findhelp.org Utility LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program) for energy bills: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/low-income-home-energy-assistance-program-liheap Affordable Connectivity Program for reduced-cost internet: https://www.fcc.gov/acp Mental Health and Dignity Resources 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/ Mental health support centering marginalized folx Therapy for Black Girls at https://therapyforblackgirls.com/ The Loveland Foundation at https://thelovelandfoundation.org/ Inclusive Therapists at https://www.inclusivetherapists.com/ Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 163163: If You See Somebody Stealing, Bitch, No You Didn't, Part 1
Wanda discusses the current government shutdown and how it affects SNAP benefits. We are reminded that poverty is not a character flaw. Come back next week for the rest of this conversation, including an overview of the list of resources below. Food Feeding America's food bank locator: https://www.feedingamerica.org/find-your-local-foodbank FoodPantries.org and AmpleHarvest.org for local produce and pantry lists. 211 (United Way's helpline) - local food aid and housing resources. Community Fridges and Mutual Aid https://mutualaidhub.org Summer EBT and Community Eligibility Provision No Kid Hungry text line: text "Food" or "Comida" to 304-304 Financial Support modestneeds.org findhelp.org Utility LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program) for energy bills: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/low-income-home-energy-assistance-program-liheap Affordable Connectivity Program for reduced-cost internet: https://www.fcc.gov/acp Mental Health and Dignity Resources 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/ Mental health support centering marginalized folx Therapy for Black Girls at https://therapyforblackgirls.com/ The Loveland Foundation at https://thelovelandfoundation.org/ Inclusive Therapists at https://www.inclusivetherapists.com/ Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 162162: Life is Hard Right Now. Are you OK?
*TRIGGER WARNING* This episode contains content about suicide that may be triggering for some individuals. Listen with care. We're living in a really hard time, and some folx are feeling it more than others. There is a lot going on in the world today so be sure to check on yourself and your people. We are going to have to depend on each other to survive. Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 161161: Charlie Kirk, Chile...
Wanda talks about Charlie Kirk, focusing on 4 specific points. White Supremacy doesn't love anybody, even the people it gives allowances to. If you are in alignment with White Supremacy there's always a chance it will harm you next. Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 160160: Lead The Shift, Part 3: Build Accountability Into Leadership
To complete this series on Lead The Shift™, Wanda talks about what accountability in leadership actually looks like, and how organizations can build systems that last. Learn more about Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's 12-month licensing program that embeds a proven framework for anti-oppressive supervision inside your organization, here: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/lead-the-shift Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 159159: Lead The Shift, Part 2: Culture Eats Policy: What Happens When Orgs Don't Address Harm
Wanda goes deeper into the discussion of Lead The Shift™, Start By Talking's new licensing program. She shares how organizations typically handle "harm" in ways that protect the institution, not the people who have been harmed. Learn about the real cost of harm and what leaders can do for true organizational change. Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 158158: Ready To Lead The Shift? Part 1
Wanda talks about Start By Talking's new licensing program, Lead The Shift™. In this episode, and over the course of the next few episodes, you'll learn why this program was built and what you can do to build an anti-oppressive culture in your organization that actually lasts. Learn more about the Anti-Oppressive Bystander Leadership Education (A.B.L.E.) Institute at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-institute Sign up for Leadership Without Harm at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/leadership-without-harm Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 157157: Racism Is Expensive
Wanda discusses Return to the Land, a group of White Supremacists with a plan to build a Whites-only community in Arkansas. Hear Wanda's reaction to this, and her prediction about the group and the community they want to establish. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 156156: Is It A Male Loneliness Epidemic or Is It Just White Supremacy?
Wanda shares a story and discusses the "male loneliness epidemic." She explains how White Supremacy reaches everything and the ways that Black Women are disproportionately affected. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 155155: When Anti-Oppression Becomes Infrastructure
We've spent years coaching, confronting, and reimagining leadership through our signature Anti-Oppressive Supervision™ training. Now, we're scaling up—way up. In this episode of Come Get Your White People!, we're pulling back the curtain on the evolution of AOS: from a deeply personal, cohort-based program to an organizational intervention. We talk about evolution, legacy, and liberation—and why this shift is about more than business. It's about building systems that remove harm from leadership and keep anti-oppression rooted at the center. Ready to turn supervision into strategy—and scale change without selling out? Yeah, us too! Listen in! Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 154154: Leadership Without Harm: An Anti-Oppressive Strategy For Real Change
Wanda shares how Start By Talking is responding to feedback on creating, developing, and sustaining an anti-oppressive leadership strategy. She discusses the new One-Day VIP offering for leaders who know they can't supervise the same way anymore. Start By Talking LLC proudly introduces Leadership Without Harm: A One-Day Rebuild! This private, VIP service will help leaders and supervisors uncover the ways that "professionalism" makes leadership an either/or game with the people you supervise. For more information, click here. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 153153: Anti-Oppressive Supervision: Join the Final Cohort Before the Evolution Begins
Wanda discusses The Anti-Oppressive Supervision Program and explains how and why it is evolving. Learn how you can join the next cohort and embrace the power of inclusive leadership. Learn more and register for Cohort 9 of The Anti-Oppressive Supervision Program that begins June 2, 2025 at: https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/anti-oppressive-supervision Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 152152: White Supremacy Is The Boogeyman: Our Sinners Review, Part 3
Wanda and Lissa wrap up their discussion of the movie Sinners. They discuss the relatability of the characters and praise the movie for being unapologetically Black. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 151151: White Supremacy Is The Boogeyman: Our Sinners Review, Part 2
Wanda and Lissa continue their discussion of the movie Sinners. They talk about the relationships of the characters and what scenes stood out to them. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 150150: White Supremacy Is The Boogeyman: Our Sinners Review, Part 1
Wanda and Lissa discuss the movie Sinners. They share their initial reactions to the film, and why they found it so impactful. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 149149: Morning Musings Before Coffee
Wanda talks about how to build a conscious, real community and the importance of taking action. She also provides a few questions for you to ask yourself this week. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 148148: Anti-Oppressive Coaching Revisited with Danielle Riley, Part 2
Wanda continues her conversation with former client Danielle Riley. Danielle shares how her life has changed since her coaching and talks about the actions she continues to take as a direct result of her work with Start By Talking. Learn more about Danielle at @daniellerileyy Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 147147: Anti-Oppressive Coaching Revisited with Danielle Riley
Wanda talks with former client Danielle Riley. They discuss Danielle's experience working with Start By Talking, how things have changed in her life since her coaching, and how she still applies what she learned in her life today. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]
Ep 146146: Start By Talking Turns Five-ish, and Here Are Our March Offers! Part 2
In part 2, Wanda shares more about the offers Start By Talking currently has available. Hear how you can start, or continue, your anti-oppressive journey. Join the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy® Online Course at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/able-course Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to [email protected]