Climate One

Today, we’re going to extreme ends of climate change debate... and action. While most of us are still comfortable sitting in the center – perhaps accepting the science, but not doing much about it – there are some organizations and individuals who are willing to jump off a bridge to convince us of the peril we face. And there are others who are using misinformation and deception to try to sow doubt in our minds about whether there is any problem at all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nearly 200 countries have pledged to go on a carbon diet. But does what happens in Paris, stay in Paris? How does the US plan to keep its climate promises? Ernest Moniz, U.S. Secretary of Energy Hal Harvey, CEO, Energy Innovation Danny Kennedy, Managing Director, California Clean Energy Fund Lyndon Rive, Co-founder and CEO, SolarCity This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on January 26, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We will discuss the hot prospects for building a climate-conscious career. New jobs and avenues for advancement are being created as companies strive to grow cleaner and governments figure out what a disrupted climate means for water, food, transit and housing systems. The young Americans entering the workforce today will create the cool new products, technologies and cities that will grow our economy and stabilize the climate. What are the best career paths for people who want to take advantage of that huge opportunity? What sectors are most promising? Will doing good entail making less? A conversation about building a thriving career based on reducing carbon while increasing social and economic value. Leonard Adler, CEO, Green Jobs Network Charlotte MacAusland, Commercial Channel Partner Manager, SolarCity Lyrica McTiernan, Sustainability Manager, Facebook Keely Wachs, Director of Communications, Clif Bar Katherine Walsh, Director, Student Environmental Resource Center, UC Berkeley This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 23, 2016 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We discuss how doctors, teachers and parents are framing climate change as a children’s issue. The American Academy of Pediatrics issued a statement saying children’s health will be disproportionately affected by climate. The California Parent-Teacher Association is raising its voice about carbon risk and the Boy Scouts are teaching kids about sustainability. Giana Amador, Research Analyst, Center for Carbon Removal Minda Berbeco, Programs and Policy Director, National Center for Science Education Ryan Condensa, Action Fellow, Alliance for Climate Education Luis Martinez, Student Activist Alexander Zwissler, Principal, Einstellung Labs This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 23, 2016 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The global effects of climate disruption will have local impacts on the Bay Area. The political leaders of this region are already planning for a future with a new normal. Sam Liccardo, Mayor, San Jose Libby Schaaf, Mayor, Oakland Phil Ting, California State Assemblymember (D-19) This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 20, 2016 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know that cartoon where the guy has a light bulb over his head and then “bing” it goes on? Well, America is having a collective “light bulb” moment these days. And it’s powered by solar energy. Solar panels are 50% cheaper than just 5 years ago. And energy from the wind is looking just as bright. Today, we’re taking a look at the explosion of clean energy alternatives, how we’re pumping it into new cars and our plans for carrying it over a new electric grid. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the quest for a carbon-neutral lifestyle, it can be difficult to sort out which activities have the greatest negative impact on our climate, from driving a car to eating animal products. The documentary Cowspiracy, produced by Leonardo DiCaprio, contends that animal agriculture is the number one source of climate killing pollution, and environmental non-profits are colluding to keep this information from the American public. Kip Andersen, Founder, AUM Films and Media Nicolette Hahn Niman, Author, Defending Beef Jonathan Kaplan, Director, Food and Agriculture Program, Natural Resources Defense Council This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 20, 2016 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Global warming is hitting closer to home than we think, from a neighborhood child gasping with asthma to a parent collapsing from heatstroke. These realities led U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy to assert in April that climate change presents the most complex threat to public health in U.S. history. Rachel Morello-Frosch, Professor, University of California, Berkeley Linda Rudolph, Director, Center for Climate Change and Health, Public Health Institute Robert Gould, Director of Health Professional Outreach and Education, Program on Reproductive Health and the Environment, UCSF Katrina Peters, Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, UCSF This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 5, 2016 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Radical protesters Tim DeChristopher and Georgia Hirsty put the “active” in “activism.” But is civil disobedience the best way to effect real change? Tim DeChristopher, Founder, Climate Disobedience Center Georgia Hirsty, National Warehouse Program Manager, Greenpeace Brendon Steele, Director of Stakeholder Engagement, Future 500 This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on January 19, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The historic climate summit in Paris is behind us. And nations around the world are turning their attention to the lofty promises made. Yet scientists and politicians agree that these goals for dialing back global warming are only the tip of the iceberg. With 2015 breaking the record for the hottest year ever, and 2014 holding the number two spot, plans for coping with an increasingly hot and dry world need to be part of the strategy as well. And facing this future can be scary, so we’ll also explore ideas for how to handle the anxiety and stress that many of us are feeling about all this. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s electric cars are more fun to drive than ever. And for many, they’re more affordable too. Will California reach its goal of a million EVs by 2020? Sherry Boschert, Co-founder, Plug In America; Author, Plug-in Hybrids: The Cars That Will Recharge America (New Society, 2006) Eileen Tutt, Executive Director, California Electric Transportation Coalition Charlie Vogelheim, Principal, Vogelheim Ventures This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on February 24, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coffee, beer and chocolate – oh my! How is global warming affecting our beloved guilty pleasures? Can growers and producers adapt to a changing climate? Ken Grossman, Co-Founder & CEO, Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Paul Katzeff, Founder & CEO, Thanksgiving Coffee Company Brad Kintzer, Chief Chocolate Maker, TCHO Chocolate This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on November 20, 2014. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cigarette makers downplayed the dangers of smoking for decades with distracting science. How close is the link between tobacco denial and climate denial? Lowell Bergman, Investigative Journalist Stanton Glantz, Director, Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education, UCSF Kenneth Kimmell, President, Union of Concerned Scientists William K. Reilly, Senior Advisor, TPG This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on February 18, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Communities of color are most affected by pollution, yet they’ve been overlooked by the green movement. How can we ensure environmental justice for all? Manuel Pastor, Director, University of Southern California Program for Environmental and Regional Equity Vien Truong, National Director, Green for All Miya Yoshitani, Executive Director, Asia Pacific Environmental Network This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on February 9, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Connecting the dots between the foods we love and our environment may be one way to engage people in the climate change fight – one cup of coffee at a time. Jonathan Foley, Executive Director, California Academy of Sciences Simran Sethi, Author, Bread, Wine, Chocolate: The Slow Loss of Foods We Love Helene York, Global Director, Responsible Business, Compass Group@Google This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on October 18, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If climate change makes you feel anxious, depressed or powerless, psychologists say you’re not alone. Can talking it out help drive change? Joshua Freedman, CEO, Six Seconds; Author, Inside Change: Transforming Your Organization with Emotional Intelligence (Six Seconds, 2010) Renee Lertzman, Climate Engagement Strategist Joan Blades, Co-founder, LivingRoomConversations.org This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on January 27, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nearly 200 countries have pledged to go on a carbon diet. But does what happens in Paris, stay in Paris? How does the US plan to keep its climate promises? Ernest Moniz, U.S. Secretary of Energy Hal Harvey, CEO, Energy Innovation Danny Kennedy, Managing Director, California Clean Energy Fund Lyndon Rive, Co-founder and CEO, SolarCity This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on January 26, 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Radical protestersTim DeChristopher and Georgia Hirsty put the “active” in “activism.” But is civil disobedience the best way to effect real change? Tim DeChristopher, Founder, Climate Disobedience Center Georgia Hirsty, National Warehouse Program Manager, Greenpeace Brendon Steele, Director of Stakeholder Engagement, Future 500 This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on January 19, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’ll never win the climate change challenge if we don’t change the way we make and drive cars. In the U.S. personal vehicles account for nearly one fifth of all our greenhouse gas emissions. And if you add in trucks, trains, planes and ships, it’s more than a quarter of our contribution to climate pollution. So how do we cut down on carbon coming out of the tailpipe? Or… maybe it’s time to give up on gasoline altogether. Is the carbon-free, electric vehicle ready for primetime? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ride-sharing, biking, bussing – when it comes to getting around, there’s a growing menu of ala carte wheels to choose from. Can we curb our cars for good? Tom Nolan, Chairman of the Board, San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency Jeff Hobson, Acting Executive Director, TransForm Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez, Staff Reporter, San Francisco Examiner Padden Murphy, Head of Public Policy & Business Development, Getaround Chakib Ayadi, Executive Board Member, San Francisco Taxi Workers Alliance Ozzie Arce, driver for Lyft This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on June 22, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the Asian economy booms, its people have paid the price in polluted air and water. Can business and government solve Asia’s environmental problems? Mark Clifford, Author, The Greening of Asia: The Business Case for Solving Asia’s Environmental Emergency (Columbia University Press, 2015) Orville Schell, Arthur Ross Director, Center on U.S.-China Relations, Asia Society in New York Stella Li, Senior Vice President, BYD Company Ltd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The new American Dream is an energy-efficient home in a healthy, green community, and HUD Secretary Julián Castro wants to make it affordable for everyone. Julián Castro, Secretary, U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The latest recipient of the Stephen Schneider Award calls COP21 “a turning point,” but warns that there’s still much to be done to combat global warming. Chris Field, Director, Department of Global Ecology, Carnegie Institution for Science Ken Alex, Director, Governor Brown’s Office of Planning and Research Jane Lubchenco, University Distinguished Professor and Advisor in Marine Studies, Oregon State University and U.S. Science Envoy for the Ocean This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on December 15, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The meat industry has been much maligned for its part in climate change. But can raising cattle in pastures help turn global warming into global greening? Diana Donlon, Director, Cool Foods Campaign, Center for Food Safety Nicolette Hahn Niman, Author, Defending Beef: The Case for Sustainable Meat Production (Chelsea Green, 2014) Whendee Silver, Professor of Ecology, University of California, Berkeley This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on January 29, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The path towards a clean energy future entails reducing our carbon footprint. But can we actually shrink that footprint down to nothing? That’s the idea behind “net zero” – using no more energy than the clean, green energy we can create. Landfills are another target of the zero movement; put nothing at all in the trash bin. Solutions range from recycling competitions to carrying your trash on your back – just to feel how garbage is weighing us down. Around the country, states, communities and individuals are racing to zero. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will the U.S. oil boom cripple OPEC? Could oil reach $100 a barrel again? What’s ahead for renewables? A conversation with the Oracle of Oil, Boone Pickens. T. Boone Pickens, Chairman and CEO, BP Capital Management This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on March 24, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Climate One went on the road to check out the action in and around the UN Climate Summit in Paris. While negotiators from 180 countries drilled down on the details of the treaty, a number of side events buzzed with activity. Entrepreneurs and innovators brought their ideas for green technology to the Sustainable Innovations Forum. At the Global Landscapes Forum, agriculture and food security was the focus, with farmers taking a soil-to-table approach. And in the nearby Green Zone, artists and activists gathered to share the eco-excitement and make their voices heard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Past conferences have failed to reach consensus on addressing climate change. Can the Paris summit produce a lasting, effective and equitable solution? Christiana Figueres, Executive Secretary, United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change William K. Reilly, Senior Advisor, TPG Capital This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on June 16, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Human activity has touched every corner of the Earth. The Arctic, the Amazon, the bottom of the deep, blue sea. Places you and I will most likely never visit – and can hardly even imagine. Yet oil drilling and industrial fishing are changing even these places. And changes there are impacting us at home as well. It’s a small world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Climate change awareness and action are growing. Solutions are being implemented, with more in the wings. Are we experiencing an “atmosphere of hope?” Tim Flannery, Scientist, Explorer, Author, Atmosphere of Hope (Atlantic Monthly Press, 2015) Ben Santer, Climate Scientist, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Rebecca Shaw, Associate Vice President and Lead Scientist, Environmental Defense Fund This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Exploratorium with the Commonwealth Club of California on November 10, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

California has an ambitious plan to reduce carbon emissions. Can EVs and driverless cars save the day? Or will they just add to our already clogged roads? Shad Balch, Environment and Energy Communications Manager, General Motors Alexandre Bayen, Liao-Cho Professor of Engineering and Director, Institute of Transportation Studies, UC Berkeley Hector De La Torre, Member, California Air Resources Board Diarmuid O’Connell, Vice President of Business Development, Tesla This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Exploratorium with the Commonwealth Club of California on November 2, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PG&E hopes to become 50% renewable by 2030 by transitioning to renewable power sources and investing in a 21st century grid. Can they reach their goal? Anthony Earley, Jr., Chairman, CEO and President, PG&E Corporation This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Exploratorium with the Commonwealth Club of California on October 15, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

El Niño is waiting in the wings, and heat waves, sea level rise and drought are in the forecast as well. How prepared are we to weather the next big disaster? Nile Malloy, former Director, Communities for a Better Environment Patrick Otellini, Chief Resilience Officer, San Francisco Laura Tam, Sustainable Development Policy Director, SPUR This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Exploratorium with the Commonwealth Club of California on October 5, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pope Francis – in his new encyclical, and in his recent talks at both the U.N. and U.S. Congress – says that it is our moral obligation to the poor to address climate change. This time, the world may be listening. In preparation for the upcoming climate talks in Paris this December, China, along with most major nations around the globe, has announced a plan to cut down on fossil fuel pollution. Some say it’s too little, too late. Others are hopeful that we can begin to move the ball forward. China, the Pope and Paris: on the next Climate One. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thanks to climate change, the wild corners of the planet are shrinking or disappearing altogether. How can we preserve the natural world and its creatures? Bernie Krause, Soundscape Artist; Author, Voices of the Wild: Animal Songs, Human Din, and the Call to Save Natural Soundscapes (Yale University Press, 2015) Jason Mark, Editor, Earth Island Journal; Author, Satellites in the High Country: Searching for the Wild in the Age of Man (Island Press, 2015) Tanya Peterson, Director, San Francisco Zoo This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on September 24, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Consumers in Marin and Sonoma already have freedom of choice when it comes to renewable power. Now San Francisco voters are about to have their say. Dawn Weisz, CEO, Marin Clean Energy Geof Syphers, CEO, Sonoma Clean Power Matthew Freedman, Staff Attorney, The Utility Reform Network Phil Ting, California State Assemblymember (D-19) London Breed, President, Board of Supervisors, San Francisco Barbara Hale, Assistant General Manager, San Francisco Public Utility Commission’s Power Enterprise Hunter Stern, Business Representative, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on September 24, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Few of us will ever venture to the faraway Arctic. But our entire planet is affected by environmental and economic changes happening in the frozen north. William Collins,Director, Climate and Ecosystem Science Division, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Alex Levinson, Executive Director, Pacific Environment Sergey Petrov, Consul General of the Russian Federation in San Francisco Hilde Janne Skorpen, Consul General for Norway in San Francisco This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on September 22, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the health of our oceans go, so goes the health of our planet. But climate change, overfishing and pollution have taken their toll – what can we do to help? Sylvia Earle, National Geographic Explorer in Residence This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on May 27, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Spray painting the sky to deflect sunlight and cool the earth sounds like science fiction. But could geoengineering buy us time against global warming? Ken Caldeira, Atmospheric Scientist, Carnegie Institution for Science, Stanford University Albert Lin, Professor, UC Davis School of Law Jane Long, Co-chair, Task Force on Geoengineering, Bipartisan Policy Center Armand Neukermans, Physicist and Inventor This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on May 8, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we look at fact and fiction in our approach to the climate challenge. A handful of scientists want to tinker with the sky in a process called geo-engineering. Others call this arrogance. Most Americans simply aren’t talking about climate change at all. Why not? Meanwhile, Hollywood has taken notice. It’s rolling out movies depicting a climate catastrophe. Science fiction thrillers describe people resorting to eating bugs after the climate apocalypse. Is truth stranger than fiction? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pope Francis’ bold statement on global warming has prompted a discussion of stewardship across faiths. Can his upcoming visit change the climate in Congress? Rev. Canon Sally Bingham, Founder and President, Regeneration Project Father Paul Fitzgerald, President, University of San Francisco Sam Liccardo, Mayor, San Jose, California This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on September 10, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From fisheries to food safety, California drought to Toledo tapwater, the EPA is waging the battle against climate change both domestically and globally. Gina McCarthy, Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on May 13, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

China is both our economic competitor and an ally in the climate change fight. But can it reduce its carbon footprint while lifting its people out of poverty? Henry Paulson, Former United States Secretary of the Treasury and author of “Dealing with China: An Insider Unmasks the New Economic Superpower” (Twelve, 2015) This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 28, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From hurricanes and superstorms to drought, fire and floods -- what’s causing our country’s extreme weather events, and how can they be prevented? Louise Bedsworth, Deputy Director, California Governor's Office of Planning and Research Kathryn Sullivan, Administrator, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Hunter Cutting, Director of Strategic Communications, Climate Nexus This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on March 3, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our next program is all about water. We love gold. We fight over oil. But we can not live without water. And as snowpacks melt and aquifers drop, water is slipping through our fingers. How can we make the best use of this most precious resource in our cities and down on the farm? We can’t find solutions if we can’t face the issues. And talking about climate change can be a conversation killer. But it’s easy to talk about the weather. And the increasingly wild weather can give us an opening to talk about the bigger issue of climate disruption. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sure, there are climate deniers – but even those who accept global warming as reality often fail to act on it. What will inspire both awareness and change? George Lakoff, Professor of Linguistics, UC Berkeley; Author, Don’t Think of an Elephant! Know Your Values and Frame the Debate (Chelsea Green, 2004) Kari Norgaard, Associate Professor of Sociology, University of Oregon; Author, Living in Denial: Climate Change, Emotions and Everyday Life (MIT Press, 2011) Per Espen Stoknes, Economist; Psychologist; Author, What We Think About When We Try Not to Think About Global Warming (Chelsea Green, 2015) This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on May 12, 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the drought drags on, water is becoming an ever more precious resource. It’s time to rethink the ways that we use, reuse, share, sell and save every drop. Anna Michalak, Faculty Member, Department of Global Ecology, Carnegie Institution for Science Martha Davis, Executive Manager for Policy Development, Inland Empire Utilities Agency Abrahm Lustgarten, Reporter, ProPublica Tamin Pechet, CEO, Banyan Water and Chairman, Imagine H2O David Sedlak, Professor of Mineral Engineering and Co-director of Berkeley Water Center, UC Berkeley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the Asian economy booms, its people have paid the price in polluted air and water. Can business and government solve Asia’s environmental problems? Mark Clifford, Author, The Greening of Asia: The Business Case for Solving Asia’s Environmental Emergency (Columbia University Press, 2015) Orville Schell, Arthur Ross Director, Center on U.S.-China Relations, Asia Society in New York Stella Li, Senior Vice President, BYD Company Ltd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Climate change is more than a plot device – it’s our reality, and the signs are all around us. Can Cli-Fi help rally the troops in our battle to save the planet? Jason Mark, Editor, Earth Island Journal Kim Stanley Robinson, Author, 2312 (Thorndike Press, 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fossil fuels are at the core of the climate challenge. Even Saudi Arabia’s oil minister has said the fossil fuel merry-go-round will wind down one day. But are companies actually going to leave their oil, coal and gas assets in the ground? That won’t make stock holders very happy. As we look for ways to reduce our carbon footprint familiar culprits come to mind: the car’s tailpipe, the air conditioner, even our hamburger. But our laptops? Really? How much of a carbon impact are we making from posting, liking, tweeting and buying online? Climate One explores the path to a clean and cool planet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices