Church & Other Drugs

Holla! John and Jed start the episode off with Jed talking about his first drug education class, and how the years of digging in the depths of the internet reading about drugs has finally paid off. Then, we discuss how an MMA event helped Jed realize that mankind hasn't advanced in the slightest. Then, Besh and Jed interview Besh's home boy from back in the day, Rogers! AKA Stinky White Boy feet. Rogers was there slangin' dope in New Orleans with Besh waaay back in the day, and had a long hard road to sobriety. Rogers helps run Solstice Recovery today, and we'd love if you'd check them out and consider donating! Solsticerecovery.com churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Besh and Jed ride this episode out, sans Jay. He's got the man-flu. They discuss the finer points in life, namely how Debesh is such a lousy C&OD fan that Jed has to EXPLAIN the 'Today I Learned' segment to him. Good grief, Charlie Brown. In the meat part of the episode sandwich, Jed and Besh get to talk to their old counselor, Jeffrey Dupuis! Jeffrey is a multi-talented counselor, holistic healer, and recently opened a suboxone clinic to combat heroin deaths in New Orleans. Jed and Besh had some serious questions about that, and Jeffrey is able to dispell myth and present a fine case for medication assisted recovery. Also...Besh doesn't know who Toto is. What. The. French. Toast. [email protected] churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings Congregation! Jay is being a putz, so what does Jed do? Call in some heavy hitters! Dave from 'Dopey: The Podcast about drugs, addiction and dumb' stops by to tell the story of getting sober, producing TV shows, and ending up creating Dopey. Dave & Chris have become great friends of C&OD, so everyone do them a solid and go listen, subscribe and leave reviews! Dopeypodcast.com churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] Dopey on itunes, stitcher, google play Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the road again...just can't wait to be on the road again. Jed and Jay had another great weekend at the Seabrook Men's Retreat, and we managed to trap our good friend Jonathan McGoo into being on the podcast...because he had no choice, we were stuck in a car together. We answer questions sent in by YOU guys, the congregation. We cover everything from our favorite drunk stories to what race and socioeconomic status has to do with getting sober. You'll have to excuse the rough audio quality..we were in a car, afterall. Churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed is currently DEVASTATED from the Saints defeat at the hands of the evil, despicable Vikings..so please say a prayer for him. *sigh* But we digress, welcome to another week! Jed does his best wrestling voice, Jay thinks we're too depressing, and we get a TIL about the funniest man ever, Robin Williams. Then , we talk to an old friend of Jed's, Nathan, who got Jed committed to a psych ward. And he's totally not still bitter about it. Definately. Seriously. Nathan tells an amazing story of what a true-blue alcoholic looks like, and how he overcame and got eight years of sobriety. churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Seriously though..how real are you? I'm only 80% sure at any given time I'm even existing at all..so, there's that. I blame LSD. Jay and Jed bring you another action-packed episode this week , and they start things off by discussing Jay breaking down and crying like a little child, Jed being awe-struck by a very on-point sermon he heard, and reading probably THE most akward text message ever from Dirty Mike. Then, Jed gets a chance to talk to Jon Fuller; author, podcaster and all-around badass. Man..I'm really into hyphens aren't I? They discuss what it means to be "real", and dive deep into Jon's past, where they find some striking similarities. Then Jed gets a prophetic word for him..and it's a good one. We round it out with a TIL about the reproductive habits of honey bees. Yup. Standard stuff. rureal.org [email protected] for a chance to win a free book! [email protected] churchandotherdrugs.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs all $25 donors get a free shirt! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

By the rings of Saturn, we've got another Dr. in the house! Dr. Michael Heiser joins us to talk about what Satan REALLY was and where he actually came from. What were the Elohim? What happened at eden? Babel? and Revelation? How does this fit in with Ancient Aliens? What's the deal with airline food? He tackles (most) all of these questions and more! On the dumber side of things, Jed and Debesh have a recording session in the same room, and it's very akward. They talk about Lil Windex, we have a new patreon (thanks Chris Steepleton!) We eulogize the passing of 2 brothers, and we talk about ...bathroom stuff. Enjoy and happy new year! www.drmsh.com for all of Dr. Heiser's projects churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Merrrrryyy Chrisstmasssss! Hope everyone is safe and sound this holiday season, and what better way to escape your forced family fun than to listen to a brand spanking new episode of COD?? Debesh and Jed start the show by going on a very, very angry rant about SJW's, and end it by prank calling Jed and Jay's most-mocked rehab, Passages Malibu! Then, Jed speaks with screenwriter, author, and badass Brian Godawa! He sets Jed straight on what revelation may ACTUALLY be talking about, nephilim, end-times prophecy, and all sorts of light-hearted, christmas family fun! find all of brian's books and information at: www.godawa.com churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings Jabronis! This week Jay has an existential meltdown, decides he doesn't know what life is anymore, and moves to Tibet. Some of that is true. Then Jed fills us in on the deplorable conditions in Alabama, as well as Switzerland's policy on Guinea Pigs. In the best part of the show, Jesse Sprinkle graciously gave his time to come talk about his time being a 16 year old touring the world, band-hopping, raising 5 kids, and then getting connected to the Ugandan Water Project, and then starting his own cause in Africa. Truly a renaissance man, i really, really enjoyed this. Go show him some love on his website and spotify. jessesprinkle.com jessesprinkle.net churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up Jabroini's? we're back with another episode. Good Lord, this is getting exhausting, isnt it? anyway, jay and jed start by playing a HILARIOUS youtube video differentiating between drug dealers and prostitutes, then give some shout outs to new patreons and congregation members celebrating sobriety. Then, Jed talks to Kinzie Oas, a youth pastor and aspiring Bible scholar to talk about that crazy assembling of literary styles we refer to as 'the bible'. Wasnt it just a tool to control people assembled by old white men? can we trust it? is it historical? didnt some guy teleport? we'll answer ..some..of those questions, and more! Then, we close out with the grammy-award winning (maybe) "holy book bible rap"..and man, it is painful. churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs find us on facebook for live videos , updates and buffonery! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WE MADE IT! ...well, sort of. FIFTY episodes, y'all. We couldn't have done it without everyone's continued support, and here's to 50 more! On this special episode, Debesh , Jay and Jed talk WAY to much about mid 90's sitcom 'Step by Step' , Corn hub, and Jed introduces a new segment titled "Today I Learned". Then we bring back our old friend Donna from Method Theology to talk about addiction from the female perspective. A very, very needed conversation in our opinion. So sit back , crack a cold mountain dew, puff that vape and enjoy the festivities! listen to Donna and Holly on Method Theology churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whats up Turkeys?!? Debesh and Jed want to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving while Jay is entertaining family. They talk about everything they are thankful for, and we are DEFINATELY thankful for you guys and all of your support! Everyone stay safe this holiday week, and remember if you've had too much to drink, PLEASE call uber or a sober driving service! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings Jabronis! We're back for another exciting week where Debesh and Jed do some horrendous Ali G impressions, and talk about just how addicted to facebook Jed really is. We also decide to prank call the " make america sober again" hotline because , well, trump. and reasons. Then in the interview, we bring on another St. Chris alumni, Jon W., one of Jed's older acquaintances. He has a great story of being put into treatment at a young age, staying sober through AA for years, and recently figuring out that maybe he wasn't an addict after all, and what medical cannabis has done for his life. churchandotherdrugs.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs @COtherdrugs facebook and ig Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Heyoooooo! Debesh, Jay and Jed rock the mic in another exciting week of C&OD. We read an amazing email from Meghan, talk about gun violence(again)drive-thru struggles, Jed's weird dreams, and just how much Jed truly despises Jay. Spoiler- it's a lot. Then Jay and Jed were recently on the Godspeed podcast w/ Jameson and Ryan, and we thought the conversation was so good we decided to treat our listeners with it. Enjoy! churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

hello , ladies and germs. im exhausted. but i pulled an all-nighter to edit this wonderful show for you. so you better enjoy it. for real. the trinity is back, with Debesh, Jed and Jay bringing you the banter to start things out. We call Kinzie, our patron who gives at almost the highest level, and turns out he's a really cool dude with a wicked sense of humor. Then, Jed sat down with Truthseekah, aka Derek Grosskurth from the Truthseekah podcast and numerous hip-hop albums of the same moniker. Truthseekah brings the truth as they trevail a trecherous path of tenious terror and...ok sorry i got carried away. On the real, they talk about Derek's past with witchcraft and the occult, growing up on an indian reservation, starting a radio show, then a youtube channel and podcast and how that has changed his life. Then they get into some wacky stuff about spirits and angels and demons and all the stuff jay hates. enjoy! Truthseekah.com churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whelp, pretty much like it says, Jed tells the boys ( Besh and Jay) about a dream he had involving heroin jellyfish ground up into a potent powdery pill..right. Weird. Then they talk about Russel Brand's new book on recovery, how the 'opiod epidemic' is nothing new, church practices, and why exactly we refer to God as a "He". All this and more , on this weeks MONUMENTAL episode. AND the boys have a new first...it's sponsored! the band What We Do In Secret is crowdfunding a new album, and they debut the new single "blackout:a sudden exit", be sure to give them all the support! https://whatwedoinsecret.bandcamp.com/ churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs find us on facebook and IG! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First things first, folks...Jay is back!!! Return of the Jay, indeed. So, the boys start out catching up, and Jed realizes he really doesn't even like Jay as a person, and quickly fires him. Ok..not really. Jay eats too much pizza, and they discuss how weird it is to be in hotel rooms after sobriety, and want to know if that is a common occurance to people who haven't done debaucherus things inside them. Then, Jed interviews Rev. Danny Nemu, author of many, many books including 'NeuroApocalypse'. Danny believes the Old Testament is littered with allusions and direct documentations of psychedelics, including the idea that Manna itself was Ergot, the precursor to LSD. Was the burning bush a DMT-producing Acacia Tree? Was the tabernacle filled with the smoke of cannabinoids? While Jed and Danny may disagree on some fundamental ideas, it was a very enjoyable conversation, and Danny certainly knows what he is talking about. So sit back , and enjoy the trip. links to Danny's material: Talks Entheogens in the Bible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgn_ddrdHKI Mistranslation of Scripture in the Service of Empire: http://nemusend.co.uk/2012/10/03/censored-scripture/ Ayahuasca research & academic racism: https://vimeo.com/131074831 Articles We three kings of Orient are… drug runners. And not kings http://psypressuk.com/2016/12/22/three-kings-orient-drug-runners-not-kings/ Give us this day our daily dose: Ergot, LSD and the Israelites http://psypressuk.com/2017/02/02/give-us-this-day-our-daily-dose-ergot-lsd-israelites/ Books: Neuro-Apocalypse (with more scripture) http://psypressuk.com/2016/11/04/neuro-apocalypse-new-book-danny-nemu/ Science Revealed. https://psychedelicpress.co.uk/products/science-revealed-by-rev-nemu churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Man...Jay is going to HATE this episode. In the last week of Jay's absence, Jed pulls out all the stops and brings Brad back to talk in-depth about flat earth, hollow earth, nephilim, and conspiracies. If you come to this expecting a well-researched and coherent argument...you're going to have a bad time. No, while that episode may come in the future, this one is all about entertainment, with some wisdom strewn throughout. Brad was the first person Jed smoked weed with, and now they are both sober believers, which is a testament to the program of AA and grace of God, so that makes for a special reunion. So put on your tin foil hats, and enjoy the show. [email protected] @COtherdrugs find us on facebook and IG BIG thanks to Stephen Whiddon and Adelaide Frey, our new Patrons! join them in supporting us at patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Jay continues his hiatus (it's over real soon, promise) so Debesh brings the heat, and naturally we end up talking about methadone and conspiracies. Did you know Elvis was an extra in Home Alone? Yeah. Neither did we. Jed gives his best evidence.(it's not much) Then Jed gets the opportunity to sit down with his long-lost buddy Ben Croft. Ben is a social worker in Boston and many years sober today, but He tells us about what brought him to that point; including an unfortunate stabbing incident. (no thats not him in the thumbnail, pretty wicked though huh?)The boys end with a sobering talk on the recent mass shooting in Las Vegas. link to elvis:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXKafsX4foA churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Jed is joined by his oldest friend, Bradford "Bernie B" Collins and the 2 reminisce about the time Jed took 5 hits of an unknown hallucinogenic drug and forced his friends to take him to the emergency room, where he proceeded to have the worst trip of his life. They also bring up how truly disgusting every restaurant kitchen is; sorry to break it to you, folks. The guest this week is Jack, and we trace his story from New England to sunny Miami, where he gets caught in the Pitbull-esque lifestyle there, turning to selling drugs, taking steroids, and eventually acting in adult films. churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs find us on facebook consider joining our patreon for bonus content, extra weekly episodes, a private facebook group, swag and more patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed and Debesh ask what happened to the wayans brothers, talk about times they had to bring people back to life, or in Jed's case, get BROUGHT back to life, and how Jed avoided a former martial arts instructor at a Comic Con. Then, Matt Macdonald from The Classic Crime calls in from the Canadian tundra(i may have embellished) to talk about Alcoholism in his family, substance abuse, church culture, and a shared love of Cursive and Bright Eyes. churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs dontfeedthetrolls.com [email protected] theclassiccrime.com How To Be Human, the new album, is available everywhere music is sold. Don't Feed The Trolls available anywhere you download podcasts Music: God and Drugs- The Classic Crime Holy Water- The Classic Crime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week...Jed and Debesh go straight to . They have a hellish conversation. They give one of an episode. Ok, i think i got all the puns out of my system. But seriously, Jed and Debesh start off talking about what junkies do during natural disasters such as hurricanes, and what it was like being a graveyard shift waiter at waffle house. Then, we get to the meat of the episode when the one, the only, Mr. Chris Date from the Rethinking podcast comes on to share his vast knowledge of the doctrine of 'conditional immortality' , better known as the annihilationist view. This is a spiritual heavy episode, but i think everyone will enjoy getting schooled on what the bible ACTUALLY says about , and what a lot of people just plain made up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Acid stays in your spine? ecstacy puts holes in your brain? weed is way stronger than it used to be? what the is spice? Jed and besh put to rest some of the most prevalent drug myths going around today, and seek to edu-ma-cate the congregation on the ways of the chemical cosmos. Also, we see if Cough Medicine could actually make you kill your wife, and find out why Jed has problems putting Mio into water. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's that time everyone. Due to overwhelming demand, we bring you Part III in our journey together in unraveling the life of the enigmatic Dirty Mike. The story picks up after the end of part II, where we left dirty being arrested for punching a pharmacist, among other crimes. From there we journey to the big house, and then take a psychedelic left turn into a hurricane-fueled feud with an ornery possum. Then we find out what its like to be a house keeper for ole' dirty...spoiler: its not a good time. The story is far from over folks, but until part IV is revealed, enjoy this tale. Hold your loved ones close. And as promised, here is a link to the newspaper article from the crimes of Part II. (im looking at you, scott) Big thanks to our new patrons Justin and Kenzie! please consider donating to get bonus content and join our private fb page, as well as chances to call in , sticker packs, and more. www.chron.com/neighborhood/artic…laries-9746667.php churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs [email protected] music by Carnaval and Chris Brown Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We have a treat for you this week, congregation. First off, Jay was fighting the white walkers north of the wall, so Jed brought in Debesh from Portland to come shoot the breeze. They talk about doing drugs in restaurant bathrooms and the pardoning of Joe Apario...that jerk. Then Jed got a chance to sit down with Matthew Schwartz of Pacifico fame to talk about what it takes to be a DIY band, tour stories, music biz insider info, then premieres a new track from his forthcoming LP 'Everest'! Quite a lot packed into this one, ladies and gents. find Matthew/Pacifico at: facebook: pacificorock youtube: pacificorock instagram:pacifimatt new album crowdfund: http://igg.me/at/pacificoeverest music this episode by Pacifico (in order/album) I don't want to live this life without you- without heroes (interlude)-without heroes Go Alone- Everest churchandotherdrugs.com [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We got a great one for you this week, congregation! The boys talk about child actors playing demon-possessed kids, how people handle judgement, and Jed tells the story of how he ended up riding a tortoise. In the main event, Matt Carter stops by to talk the basics: Does God want us to get f****d up? Whats going on with that 'confederate' show? and his thoughts on Christians smoking the devil's lettuce. A fun time was had by all. churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs [email protected] find matt at: mattandtoby.com badchristian.com @zodcarter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the boys go from Lacrae to LaCroix, talk about racism and the happenings at Charlottesville, VA, how 1 in 8 people are alcoholic. and then sit down with Chad Johnson. Chad was the former A&R guy for Tooth & Nail records, likely the guy that signed your favorite band. But after some soul searching and a word from God, quit the music biz and started a non-profit and podcast. He tells an amazing story about dealing drugs in south america, which if im being honest, i did NOT see coming. laCroix boi video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB_YWGuYGn4 patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs comeandlive.com chad@comeandlive [email protected] @COtherdrugs intro- a heretic's waltz by Carnaval bumper music by Corey Aucutt as BitRipper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week , we hear Jed talk about kicking down the door of a patron, getting Renowned on Imgur, Insane Clown Posse being christian, and Jay goes on a vacation...and he DIDN'T kill anyone! While he was gone, Jed got to interview Omar from The Shair podcast, where they dive into the world of online casinos and cocaine in costa rica...and it turned out great. Without Jay. Because we all know who is better. **EDIT** soundcloud screwed something up...sorry to those that listened to the copy missing like..20 minutes. but , these things happen. here ya go! @COtherdrugs patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs kaeli's etsy: www.etsy.com/search?q=le+bijou find The Shair podcast everywhere podcasts are downloaded Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed's favorite author, Preston Sprinkle, stops by to answer his myriad questions! Preston has written several books including People to be loved, Charis, Fight, Go!, and Erasing with Francis Chan. Jed gets to ask him all the questions that mull around his head- how are we saved? what are you supposed to do with your 'urges' if your not married? whats the deal with mysticism? and what the are Nephilim? Jay sat this one out, so Jed uses the opportunity to play a song from probably the most ridiculous artist he's ever heard. Good lord, help us. prestonsprinkle.com churchandotherdrugs.com @COtherdrugs find Preston and COD on facebook, twitter and instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well folks, we gots a good one for you this week. Toby Morrell from BadChristian, Unstoppable Badass, Matt and Toby, and Emery stops by to share his wisdom, including a paranoia-laced weed story. There's big news in this week's edition of 'Things I Heard In Drug School', and Jed's friend walks in on a bodybuilding competition. follow us on twitter: @COdrugs email: [email protected] find us on facebook BadChristian available anywhere you find podcasts badchristian.com mattandtobyband.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we bring on Anna David! Anna is a former host of the G4 network program 'Attack of the Show!' and a New York Times best-selling author, as well as hosting her own podcast, Recover Girl. She brings a little LA flavor to our Southern Gentleman hosts. We also play a trailer for the new podcast Face The Void from one of our own congregation members! Also, Jay and Jed weigh in on Floyd vs. Conor, Anna gives the boys relationship advice, and Jed cries. This is what it sounds like...when jeds cry. subscribe and listen to Face the Void https://soundcloud.com/face-the-void-podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/face-the-void/id1256222819?mt=2 send us an email [email protected] tweet us @COtherdrugs find on on facebook join our patreon for bonus episodes! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed's old high school buddy Jake Luhrs is all grown up and screamin' in the metalcore outfit August Burns Red. He takes some time out to sit down and chat about God, divorce, life on the road, and even to give an update on Tim Lambesis! We also rip on Jay-Z for releasing a terrible album, talk about a Jehovah's Witness encounter, and find out just what the is going on in the Vatican! Also, does anything matter if you believe there's no afterlife? Spoiler alert: Jed and Jay disagree. music in this episode by Carnaval, August Burns Red, and Chris Brown. find jake and heartsupport at: @jakeabr heartsupport.com augustburnsred.com for tour dates and new music news if you know anyone with a substance abuse problem, need advice, or just want to say hello, please email us! [email protected] @COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we interviewed our new buddy Daniel from the brand-new podcast 'Released Into Captivity', where He and his co-host Carlos swap prison stories with fellow inmates that have all been released. We here what landed Daniel with 12 years in the pokey, Jay thinks skinny jeans are going away, and the guys start this one off with a lovely conversation about...serial killers. find Released Into Captivity anywhere you listen to podcasts and at releasedintocaptivity.com intro music: carnaval outro: Chris Brown Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week , due to Jay's negligence, we brought in Jed's wife Kaeli last-minute to discuss a myriad of random topics. We cover Carrie Fisher's autopsy results, killer whales stealing fish, Jay explains his rap beef with "Webby D", and for some reason, there's a lot of talk about Nitrous. Webby D's Sweet Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nknPayQ_x8 Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook,com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COdrugs music: intro- A Heretic's waltz by carnaval, carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro-Don't call me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn other music by Stephen Benitez, soundcloud.com/t-e-z3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Jed gets the pleasure of sitting down with New York Times best-selling author Norman Ohler to talk about his book on drug use during WWII. Did you know Hitler was a junkie? Well, you're about to find out. Also, Jay and Jed premiere the new theme song for "things i heard in drug school" and boy, is it a winner. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook,com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COdrugs music: intro- A Heretic's waltz by carnaval, carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro-Don't call me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn other music by Stephen Benitez, soundcloud.com/t-e-z3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

jed and jay discuss annoying sounds, tell a story about a guy comparing God to a drug dealer, read some emails, and then our resident hindu heroin addict Debesh M. steps in to interview Joe Schrank about a rehab that lets you smoke weed , called "High Sobriety". we're not making this up, folks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our buddy Evan stops by to chat about Star Wars, growing up with a Dad in recovery, why he told Jed to go to AA, and all things theological. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our buddy "Shane That Sober Guy" stops by to chat about recovery, 12 step programs, podcasting, and being a Christian in recovery. Also, we talk to Andy about why he is a patron and insists on making Jay watch John Wick. Also, Jed and Jay decide to give away proceeds of their Patreon to charity. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outro - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Garrett Russell from Silent Planet drops by to talk about worshipping lead singers, "Christian" music, and manic episodes. Also, Jed is the worst interviewer ever, Jay has to watch John Wick, and Jed has a resentment against the "Methadone Mumbler". Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Methadone Mumbler Blog: http://bit.ly/2qkEIC4 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Panic Room by Silent Planet Depths II by Silent Planet Outro - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed's mom, the infamous Miss Miriam, stops by to tell her side of the story. Also, Jed meets Harry Carry and his friend's car gets jacked. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Hampton stops by to talk about recovery, anonymity, activism, and #VoicesProject. Also, Jed is cured and you can't say F*** in Louisiana. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our buddy Rick stops by to talk about his journey in recovery and his experience with Christianity. Also, Jed fights with an Atheist in his drug counselor class and Jay tells his son Santa isn't real. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed and Jay talk to some folks about what it is like to lose people that you love to the disease of addiction. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike Morrell, co-author of the Divine Dance with Father Richard Rohr and organizing founder of the Wild Goose Festival, stops by to talk about his book, the trinity and Christian Mysticism. Also, Jed is super cranky and Jay was only an hour late. The Divine Dance: http://thedivinedance.org Wild Goose Festival: http://wildgoosefestival.org Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan Koch joins us for a long talk about faith, knowledge, doubt, reconstruction, and of course a little politics sprinkled in. Also, Jed and Jay finally tell the congregation about their bottoms... Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dirty Mike comes back to tell the story of the drawers and his smash and grab antics. Also, Jay talks to one of our Patreons! Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our buddy Joey comes by to talk about mental health and his book "FundaMENTAList". Also, Jed believes that the world is flat and Jay says goodbye to a very dear friend. Joey's book - FundamentalistPastor.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS IS OUR LAST FREE BONUS EPISODE! Jed and Jay have launched a Patreon Campaign (link below) in hopes of recouping podcasting costs. If you feel like what we do here is valuable, please consider throwing us a few bucks. Also, Jed and Jay talk to our buddy Aaron about his book "AA vs. The American Church". Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our friend Jay (confusing, we know) stopped by to talk about about his crazy experience as an intern at Elevation Church under Steven Furtick. Also, Jay says "f**k" in front of his kids and Jed gets into a shouting match about LSD. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Besh, Jed's first sponsor, stops by to talk to us about Hinduism, his heroin addiction, and meditation. He also tells us a CRAZY story about a road trip to San Francisco when he was using. Also, it turns out Jay is an idiot and Jed ruined Mardi Gras. Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=4671454 Email: [email protected] FB: www.facebook.com/churchandotherdrugs/ Twitter: twitter.com/COtherdrugs Music: Intro - A Heretic's Waltz by Carnaval carnavalmusic.bandcamp.com Outdo - Don't Call Me by MrBRWN @misterbrwn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices