Church & Other Drugs

Greetings, Congregation! This week, I am joined by Dr. Natalie Atwell! Dr. Natalie Atwell brings over 20 years of experience in the field of mental health. From her role as a practice owner and clinical director to her educational endeavors in college teaching, Dr. Atwell has been able to encourage individuals, groups, and organizations by sharing hope and healing from God’s word. Currently, she leads a private counseling practice in the Charlotte, NC, metro area and enjoys teaching as an adjunct faculty member at Liberty University in the clinical mental health and school counseling programs. She is committed to serving her community, serving on her local county Human Trafficking Task Force and collaborating with several non-profits. music: Flourescent lights by Windmill and In The Name of the Father by PRESIDENT [email protected] patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs https://mentalwarriorconsulting.com/ https://www.instagram.com/drnatalieatwell/ https://www.instagram.com/mentalwarriorconsulting/ https://www.instagram.com/natalieatwellcounseling/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/195284049X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3MPJ8N9HDU16M&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.TDeoZu45tHMQ7mRxpURR3eosvAulF7V55KN6mqXDVSc.JRCsSkYZKRKAH9XQEeT-FQg3K4f5-8EkO-Lw-Z4wfhw&dib_tag=se&keywords=natalie+atwell&qid=1716045486&sprefix=natalie+atwell%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This is a simul-cast episode with Dan Koch and Pretty Good Vibrations! You all know him at this point, one of the pod's very best friends. For an episode of The Emo Diaries, Jed chose "Jesus Christ" from the band Brand New to discuss. Jed goes way, way deep on this one and Dan has some pretty stellar emo puns. Be sure to subscribe to Dan's show! [email protected] patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs popnerdstudios.myshopify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! This week Jed sits down with Jon Seidl! Jon recently wrote a book titled Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic and hosts a podcast of the same name. Jon speaks about his struggles with a secret life and what eventually helped him out of the muck and mire of addiction. Plus a pretty awesome story involving the world's biggest bathroom. find confessions of a christian alcoholic on amazon and wherever you listen to podcasts! music: Mean by Waveform* and Manila by Pianos Become The Teeth [email protected] patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs popnerdstudios.myshopify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! this week is a hella banger, as the kids say. Trevon T. joins the show! Trevon is truly a salt-of-the-earth, once in a lifetime man. He talks about how addiction affected his family, and how making amends transformed it. I hope you enjoy! music: snowglobe by OWEL and Ocean Front Property by Francis Doom popnerdstudios.myshopify.com [email protected] patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

344 - When Sober and Successful doesn't mean Joyous and Free feat. Michael Oakley from Built By The Red Stick! Greetings, Congregation! This week is a special treat. Jed brings on an old friend, who the congregation may know as an attendee of the very drug school Jed went to from the "things I heard at drug school" segment from years ago! Mike went on to become a success story in the treatment industry, doing everything from maintenance to opening his own treatment facility..he did it all. Then, this past year he lost the plot, and had to seek treatment for depression and burnout, something Jed can relate to well. He hosts the Built by the Red Stick podcast, and you can find that anywhere! music: wave by TDWP and Depressed Mode by Astronoid builtbytheredstick.com popnerdstudios.myshopify.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! This week I get to introduce you to my new best friend, Raeph! Besides having a very envy-able name, Raeph is an amazing human. Raeph works as Alumni Coordinator for a local treatment center, and thrives on human connection. He also happens to be a massive nerd, and got me through my treatment stay and is a huge part of my recovery. Enjoy! music: Beneath Heavens Gate by Unprocessed and Third Shot by Astronoid popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed brings on new friend of the pod Jason Lyle from The Sacred Grit Podcast! Jason turned out to be an absolute wealth of knowledge...from seminary in New Orleans, to Pastoring a church, to losing it all because of sex addiction and finding redemption in the most unlikely of places....himself? I'll let him explain it! music: Perfume by Unprocessed www.sacredgrit.com [email protected] www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! It feels good to be back! For the inagural episode, I got my good buddy Matt Corley to come tell his story. Matt had quite the journey from New Orleans to florida golf academy, to living the "under the bridge life" and all the way to respected member of the recovery community and huge part of Woodlake Addiction Recovery Center. Matt is an awesome human, and I hope you enjoy his story! music: Glow by Being As An Ocean shoutout to newest Patron, Kristy Whaley! www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! Here's a quick update about whats to come in the near future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This was a great conversation and deserved a revisit! Thank you for your continued prayers, love and support. [email protected] patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Greetings congregation! i'm taking another hiatus...much needed. Prayers are always accepted, welcomed and asked for! I'm going to let you guys listen to some of my favorite episodes in the meantime. See you soon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! I thought i would be a little naughty and do a teaser for the new emogelicals patreon show episode! If you like it and want to hear the rest...head over to www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs! Shoutout to newest patron Nicolle Palen! Thank you so much. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! I totally screwed up an interview because i got the timezone wrong! But, instead of cowering in a corner, I muscled through and did another music episode! I'm an emotional wreck, so i share a few songs that have deep meaning, listen to them, add backround and commentary and maybe a little tears! Enjoy and can't wait to do another one of these. songs: God went North by Nothing More Jenny by Nothing More King Park by La Dispute A Prayer by Kings Kaleidoscope Two Ships by Oh, Sleeper To the Sun by Grandview www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! no fancy production on this one since i'm limited to a mobile rig for the moment...but you guys can handle that! This is another candid episode, recorded live from rehab. The boys and i get a little deeper into my inner workings and i think yall will garner something from it! Thank you so much to everyone that has written me letters, sent cards, and sent emails. I can't thank you enough. Here's to a new season of the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! First off-- Thank you guys SO MUCH for the outpouring of support, letters, comments, emails....you guys seriously showed up for me, and it's more touching than you could ever realize. Okay, now to the good stuff! This is another episode recorded LIVE from Rehab. Suki Jones has been an amazing friend of the pod, and friend of mine. She's been awesome helping me through this relapse. She also, though, has been going through a lot herself. She just went through a huge breakup and we thought it would be good to talk about how to navigate huge things like this and not relapse. music- Panic by Francis Doom www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! I'm taking a month off, and uploading some greatest hits and some rare content in the meantime. I'll be back in August fresh, rested and ready to rock. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! Those that subscribe to the patreon have heard this already (and you could too! patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs) but it's time for me to continue being honest and share with my listeners what happened. This episode was recorded live while i am at treatment. I got a chance to laugh and joke with my friends, during a time of great darkness. I want to make it clear that underneath it all is a sense of grave urgency. I have relapsed and caused considerable damage to myself, my family, and my friends. I am starting a new chapter of healing and repentance; of rebuilding and reunification. if any of you are struggling, please reach out. My hope is that as i get honest in episodes to come, my struggle will turn out to be your gain. I want to help people. I want to love people. Thank you everyone for the letters and emails of support. it means the world to me. if you would like to write to me while i am in treatment, you can send it to: jed payne 617 piat rd. youngsville, la 70592 www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! I'm taking a month off, and uploading some greatest hits and some rare content in the meantime. I'll be back in August fresh, rested and ready to rock. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! I'm taking a month off, and uploading some greatest hits and some rare content in the meantime. I'll be back in August fresh, rested and ready to rock. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! I'm taking a month off so ill be releasing some of my greatest hits! a clip show, if you will. SO...enjoy! I'll see you back in August with new episodes, new guests and a rested host! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! This week is an amazing throwback that most likely should've been a patreon-exclusive but hey-- here ya go! I'm not even going to try to explain it here- it's Heath and Jed at 11:30 at night. Buckle up. music: Occam's Razor by Foxblood www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! Gather round for a classic, good-time existential crisis! The boys discuss non-existence, sin, some serious ragging on andrew, and some Jed rants. darksynth wave mix and Uninvited by Francis Doom www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings emogelicals! This week, for the 11th episode of our patreon bonus show, we decided to do something special. Josh brought on a special guest, none other than podcaster, theologian, and LOTR-nerd Tripp Fuller! Josh had Tripp listen to some Lorna Shore (Tripp hates screamy music) and then we discuss the decidedly emo lyrics and what they mean to him. Plus a long, long rant about Lord of the Rings. A great time was had by all. If you enjoyed it, please consider either joining the Patreon at www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs, or just purchasing this episode for as low as $1. We put a lot of hard work into these, and hope you enjoy them! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! Or I guess i should start with asking if you have received the gospel? Oh, you have? Well...I don't believe you. Ok, I'm being cheeky but the boys talk about whether or not street preaching, tiktok christian influencing, and recording yourself spreading the gospel are good things or not. Jed definitely has...opinions. Andrew also tells a hilarious story that he most definitely was not supposed to tell, so , be cool. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, as per Andrew's request, we do a drug q & a! Therefore, this is your trigger/content warning. There is some gnarly talk ahead. Andrew, Ben and Kenon ask everything theyve wanted to know about drugs and Jed's history, and it's a doozy. We barely scratched the surface, so be on the lookout for more like this! www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] music: try it on by interpol and the prayer by bloc party *all music used for parody purposes* Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings congregation! So, in the c&od Patreon, there are DOZENS and DOZENS of old bonus episodes that are absolute gems. I've been listening back to them, and found this classic with Brad. If you want to hear literally hundreds more, go to www.Patreon.com/Churchandothersrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Emogelicals and Congregation! This week, we decided to release our TENTH episode of the patreon-exclusive show, The Emogelicals! Every month, Josh Patterson of rethinking faith get together and talk about emo music, Christianity, philosophy, and whatever deep, dark thoughts they get in to. So, that being said, this episode is more raw, opinionated, and late-night that typical, so consider that a content warning? Also, there is 10 or so deleted minutes that will be available exclusively on the patreon version, so, go to patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs to hear that and the other 9 episodes! www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs www.patreon.com/rethinkingfaith www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, the Elders rejoin, this time with Ben, and do their best NOT to argue about Elon. (It only happens briefly). Jed had his own Gods not Dead moment in his philosophy class, and spoiler alert, the whole class is saved now. Andrew and Ben bring some white hot wisdom in regards to spiritual practice, and Andrew explains the Orthodox idea of "the Silence" music: Bloodsport (from the room below) by Sleep Token and Caramel by Sleep Token www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, the Elders, sans Ben, have some lively and friendly conversation....just kidding. Andrew and Jed end up having another verbal brawl, this time about whether or not billionaires like Elon Musk are ethical. At least, that's what Jed is trying to say. Andrew is just wrong. Enjoy! music" The ghost of billy royalton by Dance Gavin Dance and Still In Love by Nothingmore www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings congregation! This week, Jed and Jeannine from Chasing Heroine trade off telling the craziest drug stories that happened in or around hotels! if you have been listening for a long time, you know Jed has quite a few! Be sure and check out Chasing Heroine if you haven't already. Music at the end of the episode by Eli Parris; You should be wanting me., by how to make a bomb! Go support him and do yourself a favor and listen to his album. check out merch and more at www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! This week, I finally get Brant & Brooke back on the pod, or as they are now referred to, "Brookes & Dumb". We begin by addressing Brant's crippling Minecraft addiction and then Jed unleashes his fury and vitriol towards President Elon Musk. Then, the trio discuss what their very first viral videos were (mine is the best) and there is a special call-in cameo that you CAN NOT MISS! music: Blue Light by Bloc Party and Space by Murder by Death www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, congregation! This week, Jed was part of the Pastor With No Answers: The Mixtape era crew and Hayne, Joey, Amy and Jed talked about an oft-discussed topic: does God directly intervene because of prayer? Does God intervene at all? Is that something He does, or something we just ascribe meaning to? Hayne has some definite views of his own, especially following the Asheville floods. Enjoy! music: hustle rose by Metric and All Eyes On Me (cover) by MALINDA www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed talks some about his days living with a youth pastor, and then the boys somehow venture into political territory. Andrew and Jed in particular start to duke it out, in an unexpected twist. Andrew had some views that Jed was not privy too, and boy, did he let it be known! It's all in good fun, and you guys reap the benefits. music: God, drugs and sex by Anberlin and Chemical (acoustic) by The Devil Wears Prada www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jed, Joey and Robbie from Pastor With No Answers had a snow day conversation! Robbie and Jed both got historic amounts of snow here in the south, and Joey...did not. Anyway, Joey wanted to talk about an unexplainable sighting he had (aliens?) and the conversation moves to Jed still struggling with legalism and the age old question, "is God mad at me?". Plus, Joey reads Jed a letter from a listener who was very upset about what Jed said about Kratom on an episode on PWNA. Spicy beef! music: Mountains by Message to Bears and Return to One by Invent Animate ft. Silent Planet www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, for the first time ever, Heath and Kenon together on the same show! We're gonna call it The Elder Raccoons. So, the first 20 minutes turned out to be "too hot for TV", so you'll have to head over to patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs if you want to hear it. Otherwise, the boys get into some interesting stuff- how far would you go for self-defense? Is evolution real? And then the boys' play "the Wikipedia game" and if you are a long-time listener, you know what that means,. music: All Comes Crashing by Metric and Move in Silence by Phantogram www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Kenon couldn't make it so it's just Andrew, Jed and the newly monikered Ben-adryl! (why did I never think of that?) Jed is hot and bothered about the New Jersey drones, the Government response, the UAPs...all of that. And does the Tesla Cyber Truck explosion have anything to do with it?? Let's find out. music: Won't Drown by Foxing and The Outlaw Josey Wales by Zella Day www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings Congregation! This one has been a long time coming, but I finally got to interview Jared Klickstein, author of the STELLAR drug memoir, Crooked Smile! I really don't want to give a single modicum of spoilers, so ill just say that Jared's story is one of the most intense, moving and inspiring tales I've heard in a good, long while. Pickup Crooked Smile on amazon, and find Jared on the socials! https://www.CdODamazon.com/Crooked-Smile-Escape-Homelessness-Addiction/dp/B0CWZ1GHLW?crid=2HP6OAPBANQ6K&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.QC6auXhR402B90wKh1qYDGIOQRaPqqMyQU4UVRmE402MNmauHQ58eM1LoMEGBBTd.U2miUf0GD6gInSRZbDbBRVfV027hb0nx0w4Onq20hYc&dib_tag=se&keywords=crooked+smile+book+jared+klickstein&qid=1736114719&sprefix=crooked+smiile%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1 music: obstacle 1 by interpol and taking inventory of a frozen lake by Thursday online store: www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Emogelicals! This is a special patreon episode available for EVERYONE as a special holiday treat for you guys! Josh brings his friend Mason to play some emo-themed Christmas games, like what is the top 5 emo Christmas songs? is the Grinch emo? If you enjoy the episode, consider joining the patreon to get a new Emogelicals episode every month, and other bonus content! Grab an emogelicals shirt for your best bud at the new webstore! www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, the Raccoon Crew is back together! Tylor and Heath join Jed for an update on the crew- Tylor had a manic episode and went through quite a journey, stepping away from God and then coming back to Him...but I'll let him tell you! I have a new webstore for my art (Popnerd Studios) this podcast and The Emogelicals! T-shirts, art, even pre-workout supplements! music: Chemical (acoustic) by The Devil Wears Prada and Sulpher by Landmvrks www.popnerdstudios.myshopify.com www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! The Elders are in full swing here (Kenon, Ben and Andrew). The episode kicks off with an interview with...Beelzebub, for some reason, then kicks off into quite the smorgasbord of podcast topics- 1 year-olds, teenage tomfoolery, regretable actions while blacked out, prosperity gospel, Christian influencers....whoo-boy. It's plum full of good stuff. Enjoy. music: Red Sky by Thrice and White Bikes by Thursday www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week was super fun. Jed got in touch with his high school friend, Liz Linder, and got her to come on the show to tell her story! Liz went down the road of alcoholism after high school, and found her way to sobriety and motherhood! Enjoy the tale. music: The end is the beginning is the end (watchmen remix) by Smashing Pumpkins and Bialystok by Foxing www.pateron.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! Kenon is with us in spirit this week, so the other elders, Ben and Andrew, join Jed as he finally goes through the famed "podcast list". This is the running note Jed keeps on his phone where he jots down every exciting, meanial, weird, gross and interesting factoid that he learns while going through life. Enjoy the madness! TW there is mention of historical atrocity. music: Studying Politics by Hawthorne Heights and X-Ray by The Anix www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week Axel returns to finish his amazing story! Jed and Axel talk a lot about working in harm reduction, faith, spiritual experiences, Christianity, how Axel found the Dopey Podcast, getting deported to Argentina, being accused of a crime because of a confused sexual identity and much, much more! Enjoy and be sure and support the harm reduction programs he is involved with, and find out what you can do at your local level to join the fight! We need you, it's a losing battle out here and we need soldiers! Find Students for Sensible Drug Policy (SSDP) on IG @ssdfsu and www.ssdp.org music: Goodbye for now by Touche Amore ft. Julien Baker and The Deep Blue Silent by ALLT www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! Finally, I get to chat with Jeannine from the Chasing Heroine podcast! We talk about our usual random things for awhile and then get in to part 2 of her story. She was NOT lying when she said it was pretty hardcore. We don't even get close to finishing, so we had the realization that she is now a friend of the pod, and will be coming on as a recurring member! Enjoy this part of her story though (we will finish it, don't worry) and see you next week! music: Mountains by Message to Bears and Cast the First Stone (feat. Jed Payne) by How to Make a Bomb (Eli Parris) [email protected] www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! Last week I was out of town at When We Were Young Festival and because of that....I got COVID. Again. This really isn't funny anymore. But, the show must go on! Jed has on his friend Axel, and they have been trying to schedule this interview for the better part of a year, so I'll be darned if a little sniffles is going to stop me! This is part 1 of 2 (or 3?) because Axel has quite the tale. Enjoy! music: Comforting Sounds by Mew and Fox's Dream of the Log Flume by Mewithoutyou www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, everyone is back from vacations. Kenon and Ben talk about the last Furnace Fest, Jed talks about Sigur Ros, Austin and roadside zoos with rattlesnakes. All of the rattlesnakes. Conspiracies inevitably come up, please don't censor me. Then, after showing the new lonely islands song, the boys decide to make their own, titled "Corndog Caravan". Its gonna be a hit. music: Carby by Discovery, Goodbye by Touche Amore and Sushi Glory Hole by Lonely Island www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! To the mediums out there, sorry for repeating myself. I know you knew what I was going to say. This week, we have a crossover episode with PWNA! Joey and his brother Jarrod join Jed and Ellen to talk about Ellen's interest in Mediums and how she is going to talk to one soon. Is it all demonic? Is it even real? What is the danger? Let's find out! music: Up and Away by Cursive and A Beginning by The Dear Hunter thanks Summer Wages, new Patron! www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! This week, Jeannine Coulter from Chasing Heroine repays the favor and comes on the show to tell her story! She talks about growing up on debate team and being in youth group, and then how a divorce her senior year completely rocked her foundations. Much too dense for one episode, this one is going to be split up! So, enjoy part 1 and be looking for the next! music: Wolf by Now, Now and Waiting by The Family Crest www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, Congregation! Jed is back from Colorado, and talks all about the trip- Red Rocks, Arcade Fire, guided meditations, facial recognition at the airport, traveling with a young one...and the usual gumbo of conversation. Enjoy! music: In the House In a Heartbeat by John Murphey and Summer '42 by Kishi Bashi www.patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices