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In which Crabb and Sales eat baked goods cooked in a chemically-cleaned oven and discover the joys of long biographies where not much actually happens. Plus the joys returning to the wrong theatre after interval. • Lemon butter slice from the Women's Weekly Best-Ever cookbook • Dick Adams on Kitchen Cabinet with Annabel Crabb • Calendar of Cakes by the Country Women's Association of South Australia • Special Delivery by Annabel Crabb • Detainee 002: The Case of David Hicks by Leigh Sales • The Sense of Ending by Julian Barnes • On Chesil Beach by Ian McEwan • The Stone Diaries by Carol Shields • Stoner by John Williams • The Ex-PM starring Shaun Micaleff • The Beautiful Lie starring Sarah Snook, Rodger Corser, Benedict Samuel and Sophie Lowe • Please Like Me starring Josh Thomas • The multiple biographies of Stephen Fry • My Struggle by Karl Ove Knausgaard • The Whites by Richard Price • Anything Goes starring Caroline O'Connor • Australia's Second Chance by George MegalogenisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you walk out on plays? Movies? Crabb and Sales talk about the shows they couldn't sit through. Sales admits she doesn't like all musicals and Crabb admits that she likes at least one. Plus Crabb has all her suspicions confirmed that Sales is indeed a monster and won't participate in a standing ovation. • The Present by Chekhov performed by the Sydney Theatre Company • Hugo Weaving on 7.30 interviewed by Leigh Sales • Art of the Steal • The Maids by Jean Genet • Chicago the movie • Crash (1996) movie • The Girl with the Dogs by Anna Funder • The Lady with the Dog by Anton Chekhov • Moulin Rouge • The final scene of The Sopranos (hard to say if it contains spoilers because everyone has a different theory about it) • Don't Stop Believing from Glee • Nurse Jackie • Californication • The X-Files • Diehard • The Librarians • Now Add Honey • Withnail & I • The Mitford Girls by Mary S. Lovell • Andy Dufresne in the Shawshank Redemption smuggles dirt just like Brendan smuggles books • Of course, The Great Escape did it firstSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's been a leadership coup in Australia, meaning Crabb and Sales need a new safe word. Crabb has been papped with an Abbott staffer and unpacks an urban myth involving Malcolm Turnbull and a cat. Sales is mortified that the Prime Minister's Office already knows about her book recycling habits. • Battlelines by Tony Abbott • Annabel Crabb papped with Andrew Hirst via Crikey • Stop at Nothing: The Life and Adventures of Malcolm Turnbull by Annabel Crabb • The night of the leadership spill on 7.30 • The Spycatcher Trial by Malcolm Turnbull • Julia Gillard interview on 7.30 by Leigh Sales • Scott Morrison interview on 2GB by Ray Hadley • Malcolm Turnbull interview on 2GB by Alan Jones • NSW Premiere Mike Baird live tweets The Bachelor on Twitter • George Brandis interview on 7.30 by Leigh Sales • Something Quite Peculiar by Steve KilbeySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales are very apologetic for taking so long to come up with a new episode and are delighted that in addition to fretting over the idea that maybe they're terrible mothers, colleagues, partners and friends, they can now feel guilty about disappointing listeners of the podcast.Speaking of guilt: Are you a chucker or a hoarder? Do you throw out books? Signed books? Books signed with a personal note by someone who would someday become Prime Minister? Oh dear. We have so much to talk about. • Miette: Recipes from San Francisco's Most Charming Pastry Shop by Meg Ray • The Natural Way of Things by Charlotte Wood • The Wife Drought by Annabel Crabb • The Hunting of the Snark by Lewis Carroll, annotated by Martin Gardner • Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R Hofstadter • Battlelines by Tony Abbott • The Enchanted Wood by Enid Blyton • The Magic Faraway Tree by Enid Blyton • Anne of Green Gables by L M Montgomery • Alias Grace by Margaret Attwood • We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves by Karen Joy Fowler • A Fraction of the Whole by Steve Toltz • Les Miserables (the movie) • Matilda the Musical by Tim Minchin • When I Grow Up by Tim Minchin • White Wine in the Sun by Tim Minchin • Storm by Tim Minchin • Matilda by Roald Dahl • Tim Minchin on 7.30 interviewed by Leigh Sales • Leigh Sales and Tim Minchin sing the 7.30 promo • Prisoners of War by Gideon Raff • Homeland • Gideon Raff on 7.30 interviewed by Leigh Sales • One Life: My Mother's Story by Kate Grenville • Boy, Lost by Kristina Olsson • Undisclosed podcast • Slate's Working: Stephen Colbert • The Cook and Baker by Cherie Bevan and Tass TauroaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Crabb and Sales visit the Archibald Prize at the Art Gallery of NSW. In keeping with tradition they are interrupted not once, but twice during the course of the episode. Despite every setback, they manage to talk about sex, death, art and books. Plus it suddenly dawns on our own odd couple that they are not as alike as they seem. In fact, they're almost polar opposites. • Archibald Prize 2015 • Museum of Old and New Art (MONA) • A Bone of Fact by David Walsh • Grace and Frankie via Netflix • The Odd Couple theme music via YouTube • Heartburn by Nora Ephron • Adventures in the Screen Trade by William Goldman • All the President's Men starring Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman • You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again by Julia Phillips • Palace of Treason by Jason Matthews • The Fourth Revolution by John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge • Red Sparrow by Jason Matthews • Burger Rings via Wikipedia • How Very Un McDonalds via Campaign Brief • Marmite Ad (NSFW) you either love it or you hate it • A Letter to My Children by Christopher Pyne • Dreams from My Father by Barack Obama • Profiles in Courage by John F Kennedy • Nancy Mitford books • The Money Men by Chris Bowen • One Life by Kate Grenville • Should Have Known Better by Sufjan Stevens from the album Carrie and Lowell • True Myth: A Conversation with Sufjan Stevens via Pitchfork • Walker definition via Urban DictionarySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Crabb and Sales are going by nom de plumes - but who is Earl J McNabb and who is Tabitha Whispersword? Whispersword is refusing to read the new Harper Lee novel while McNabb reveals she may well have spent time behind bars if not for a noted barrister turned author. And what recipe ideas are dividing our loveable bunglers? • Priest hole • Go Set a Watchman by Harper Lee • Negotiating with the Dead: A Writer on Writing by Margaret Atwood • Little Failure by Gary Shteyngart • 100 Notable Books of 2014 via The New York Times • Charlie Anderson's General Theory of Lying by Richard McHugh • A Time to Run by J M Peace • Cops and Novels -The J M Peace blog • Cosmo Cosmolino by Helen Garner • Plenty More by Yotam Ottolenghi • Australian Women's Weekly: The Best-Ever Collection • How Kale Became Cool via MissEWardSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The women discuss fashion, with Crabb describing her look as "50s frocks" while Sales' self-confessed style is "I Can't be Arsed". They review the new Pixar film "Inside Out", admitting it didn't make them cry as much as "Bambi" or "The Littlest Hobo". And Crabb is stunned - not in a good way either - by Sales' misogynistic taste in music, revealed in a guest host stint on Double J. • Mandarin and choc-chip cornflake biscuits. Just use this recipe but beat in the zest of two mandarins when you're creaming the butter and sugar. And banish the sultanas in favour of 1/2 cup dark choc chips. • Sticky gingerbread cake by Nigella Lawson • Gingernut and apricot no-bake slice by Maggie Beer • The Country Show Cookbook by The Agricultural Societies Council • Jerusalem by Yotam Ottolenghi • Community: Salad recipes by the Arthur Street Kitchen • Grace: A Memoir by Grace Coddington • Jean Paul Gaultier interview by Leigh Sales • Amy Poehler interview by Annabel Crabb • Guy Pearce interview by Leigh Sales • Inside Out starring Amy Poehler • Cinderella (2015) starring Cate Blanchett • Toy Story starring Tom Hanks and Tim Allen • Up starring Edward Asner • Bambi • Ring of Bright Water by Bill Travers • Old Yeller • The Littlest Hobo • Jennie by Paul Gallico • Annabel Crabb on Double J with Myf Warhurst • All About That Bass by Meghan Trainor • Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke • Breakfast Time (Blurred Lines parody) by David Campbell and Sonia Kruger • Somebody That I Used to Know by Gotye • Royals by Lorde • Leigh Sales admits she will probably never read Dickens via Chat10Looks3 • The Outdoor Type by The Lemonheads • Them Crooked Vultures by Them Crooked Vultures • The Trek that Nearly (Sort of) Killed Me by Brigid DelaneySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales are in Canberra getting their glam on for the Mid-Winter Ball. Even in a hotel bathroom, these bunglers still manage to crack each other (and us) up. Stay tuned for television and book recommendations.Plus: What does it take to get Crabb's hair straightened? And what does Salesy's husband Phil (aka "Brendan") think of the podcast so far? • Leigh Sales on Home Delivery with Julia Zemiro • Mad Men final series • The Americans starring Keri Russell • Keri Russell's short hair scandall • Veep starring Julia-Louis Dreyfus and Hugh Laurie • Hugh Laurie interview with Leigh Sales • John McCain's life expectancy via The Lancet • The Killing Season via ABC • Detainee 002: The Case of David Hicks by Leigh Sales • Wentworth (the Prisoner remake) • Sir Henry Parkes: An Australian colossus by Stephen Dando-Collins • The Secret River by Kate Grenville • The Forgotten Rebels of Eureka by Clare WrightSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb hates showtunes and Sales hates birds, so why not spend the episode talking about both? Join them in the piano room (aka the yoga room) while they talk about the difference between popular and literary writing. Plus, Crabb and Sales read their favourite mean-spirited iTunes reviews. • Caroline O'Connor interview by Leigh Sales via 7.30 • Big Little Lies by Liane Moriarty • The Rosie Effect by Graeme Simsion • I Am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes • Peas and Queues: The Minefield of Modern Manners by Sandi Toksvig • Lucky Us by Amy Bloom • Little Failure by Gary Shteyngart • Xinran's columns via The Guardian • Buy Me the Sky: The Remarkable Truth of China's One-Child Generations by Xinran • H is for Hawk by Helen Macdonald • Helen Macdonald interview with Richard Fidler • My Side of the Mountain by Jean Craighead George • The books of Gerald Durrell • Lace by Shirley Conran • Leila Jeffries Photography • Russian Trolls via The New York Times Magazine • The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin by Masha GessenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this live recording from the Sydney Writers' Festival, Crabb and Sales take a wander through their reading lives in sixty minutes, somehow managing to squeeze in mention of 42 books, four interviews, two television clips and two magazine articles. • Clade by James Bradley • Lucky Us by Amy Bloom • The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy • Moondust: In Search of the Men Who Fell to Earth by Andrew Smith • Being Mortal by Atul Gawande • Buzz Aldrin interview with Leigh Sales on 7.30 • The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt • The Secret History by Donna Tartt • The Fiddler in the Subway by Gene Weingarten • Barack Obama: The Story by David Marannis • Ulysses by James Joyce • Tales from Shakespeare by Charles Lamb • Tales of Troy and Greece by Andrew Lang • Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie • Rabbit, Run by John Updike • The Pursuit of Love by Nancy Mitford • Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov • The Spare Room by Helen Garner • This House of Grief by Helen Garner • The First Stone by Helen Garner • The Insults of Age by Helen Garner via The Monthly • This Old Man by Roger Angell via The New Yorker • Dick and Dora • Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte • My Brilliant Career by Miles Franklin • Nancy Drew by Carolyn Keene • The Chalet School by Elinor Brent-Dyer • The Enchanted Wood by Enid Blyton • Anne of Green Gables by L M Montgomery • Postmortem by Patricia Cornwell • The Bourne Identity by Robert Ludlum • I Am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes • In Cold Blood by Truman Capote • The Journalist and the Murderer by Janet Malcolm • Fatal Vision by Joe McGinniss • The Selling of the President by Joe McGinniss • The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame • The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C S Lewis • My Family and Other Animals by Gerald Durrell • The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown • Matt Damon interview with Leigh Sales via 7.30 • The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen • Jonathan Franzen interview with Leigh Sales via 7.30 • David Bowie on Extras • Kate Winslett on Extras • Boris Johnson interview with Annabel Crabb • 72 Virgins by Boris Johnson • The Iliad by Homer • To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee • H is for Hawk by Helen MacdonaldSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales record this limited-edition podcast live from the Sydney Writers' Festival. Our loveable bunglers write letters to each other, explaining why their friendship is over. Featuring passive-aggressive baking, fairy wrens and show tunes (of course). • Women of Letters founded by Marieke Hardy and Michaela McGuire • Pulp Fiction watch scene featuring Christopher Walken • Weapon of Choice by Fatboy Slim featuring Christopher Walken • The Shawshank Redemption (spoilers) sceneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's budget week and everyone is under (and broadcasting in) the weather. But federal politics is quickly pushed aside once Sales announces that this week: nice guys do NOT finish last. Plus, who would you rather fly with: Tom Cruise or Val Kilmer? • Carrie Bickmore's Gold Logie Speech dedicated to her late husband Greg • Hilary Clinton interview with Hamish and Andy • Buzz Aldrin interview on 7.30 • The Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe • Top Gun starring Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer • Spandau Ballet, but you might not like the origin of the name • The Husband's Secret by Liane Moriarty • Big Little Lies by Liane Moriarty • The Hypnotist's Love Story by Liane Moriarty • Friday Night Lights starring Connie Britton and Kyle Chandler • Veep starring Julia Louis-Dreyfus • House of Cards starring Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright • Inside the Northern Territory News via the Sydney Morning HeraldSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales desperately hunt for a quiet room to record this week's podcast and end up in a breast-feeding room. They talk about what makes a great true-crime book and the challenges of writing someone's real-life story. • Chef directed by Jon Favreau • The Trip starring Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon • Fame Opening Titles via YouTube • Women Having a Terrible Time at Parties in Western Art History via The Toast • Five Drops of Blood - Murder in the Cat Protection Society by Paul Wilson and Dianne McInnes • In Cold Blood by Truman Capote • The Executioner's Song by Norman Mailer • This House of Grief by Helen Garner • Orchid Fever by Susan Orlean from the New Yorker archives • The Orchid Thief by Susan Orlean • Damages starring Glenn Close and Rose Byrne • Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders by Vincent Bugliosi with Curt Gentry • Photographer Russell James's long battle to help his mentally ill and drug-addicted daughter by Anthony Deceglie • Veep starring Julia Louis-Dreyfus • Useful by Deborah Oswald • One Life: My Mother's Story by Kate Grenville • The Man Who Ate Everything by Jeffrey SteingartenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales review the first episode of the final season of Mad Men and discover that Don Draper has a unique solution for removing red wine stains from carpet. • The Children Act by Ian McEwan • Jerusalem by Yotam Ottolenghi • Mix and Bake by Belinda Jeffrey • Mr Sheen ad via YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb reveals her top "why didn't I think of that?" moments, and Sales tells us what she really thinks of Jeremy Clarkson. Plus things take a turn for the creepy with Richard III, Clive James, Roman Polanski and Dominic West.It's Chat 10 Looks 3, but now with added microphones! • Jean-Claude Van Damme does the splits • So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson • Airmail: Women of Letters featuring Tim Minchin, edited by Marieke Hardy • Inside the Commons a BBC documentary by Michael Cockerell • How to Outrun the Paparazzi by Jeremy Clarkson • The Insider: The Private Diaries of a Scandalous Decade by Piers Morgan • Don't You Know Who I Am? Insider Diaries of Fame, Power and Naked Ambition by Piers Morgan • Betty Churcher's final interview by Leigh Sales on 7.30 • Reality TV series based on the fabulous adventures of Richard III's bones by Annabel Crabb • Four Weddings and a Funeral review by Martin Amis via The New Yorker • Clive James interviews Roman Polanski via YouTube • Clive James by Trent Dalton via The Australian • The Affair • Olive KitteridgeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb is writing a cookbook and Sales is more than happy to drop by and ruin the food styling. Have a listen. It's better than eating a raw onion. • Solar by Ian McEwan • Sweet Tooth by Ian McEwan • Tony Abbott eats a second onion via ABC Online • Jerusalem by Yotam Ottolenghi • Derek Zoolander and Anna Wintour via Rolling Stone • Thanks to Olivia King for designing our new logo • Stephen Colbert at senate committee hearing on immigrant labour • Party Tricks via TenPlay • Q and A hosted by Annabel Crabb • One Life: My Mother's Story by Kate Grenville • A Fortunate Life by A B Facey • Where the Bodies are Buried via the New Yorker • David Mitchell via The Saturday Paper • David Mitchell's Soap Box - I couldn't care less • The Surprising Failures of 12 Steps via The Atlantic • The Wisdom to Know the Difference via This American LifeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sales has locked Crabb in a room with a piano, which can only mean one thing: show tunes! The pair celebrates the fiftieth anniversary of The Sound of Music and detour their way through rotten reviews, ironic illnesses, faux feminists and dudes in drag. Think of it as a few of their favourite things. • Lady Gaga at the 2015 Oscars • Here's the Thing with Alec Baldwin • Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer from Vanity Fair • Original review of The Sound of Music from The New York Times • Everyone Hated The Sound of Music from The Daily Beast • How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco's Life by Jon Ronson • So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson • If You Don't Have Anything Nice to Say, SAY IT IN ALL CAPS from This American Life • My Own Life: Oliver Sacks on Learning He Has Terminal Cancer from The New York Times • Unspoken Truths by Christopher Hitchens • Betty Churcher interview by Leigh Sales • Bad Feminist by Roxanne Gay • Men Explain Things To Me by Rebecca Solnit • Olive Kitteridge by Elizabeth Strout • RuPaul's Drag RaceSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales don their finest trench coats and head off to see 50 Shades of Grey. Afterwards they delve into the topic of reading books you ordinarily wouldn't. It's all about man caves, aliens, vampires, Hitler and so much more. • Fifty Shades of Grey by E L James • Twilight by Stephenie Meyer • Ascendance: Dave vs the Monsters by John Birmingham • The Young Lion by Blanche d'Alpuget • The Lion Rampant by Blanche d'Alpuget • New Yorker review of Fifty Shades of Grey by Anthony Lane • A Fraction of the Whole by Steve Toltz • The Mitford Girls by Mary S LovellSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sales and Crabb make up for missing a couple of weeks by delivering a bumper Christmas episode. They talk about everything from baking, to books to bird watching. Find out what's on their summer reading list and what DVDs not to bring home to a mother of a new baby. • The Cook's Companion by Stephanie Alexander • Rachel Allen Cookbooks • The Ketchup Conundrum by Malcolm Gladwell • Mad as Hell with Shaun Micaleff • The superb fairy-wren - which is our best guess of the visitor in the backyard • Masters of Sex • Please Like Me with Josh Thomas • The Grand Budapest Hotel by Wes Anderson • Sony's Leaked Emails via Defamer • Gone Girl • Misery • The Comfort of Strangers • Die Hard • The Night Guest by Fiona McFarlane • Red Sparrow by Jason Matthews • Stoner by John Williams • Far from the Tree by Andrew Soloman • Little Failure: A Memoir by Gary Shteyngart • Bill Granger's recipe for The Soup • The Presidents Club by Nancy Gibbs and Michael Duffy • The Menzies Era by John Howard • My Story by Julia Gillard • The Mitford Girls by Mary S Lovell • A Fraction of the Whole by Steve ToltzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales start where they left off last week: Portuguese Tarts, but from there things take a turn to the dark side. How can one random, tragic event completely ruin your life? But it's not all bleak. Sales brings us home with Sting and show tunes. • The Art of the Tart via The Age • How to make the perfect hollandaise sauce via The Guardian • The Cook's Companion by Stephanie Alexander • L'Ami Louis review by AA Gill • The Blight of the Bumble Bee • Knife Fight with Lee-Lin Chin • The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion • We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves by Karen Joy Fowler • The Real Life Lolita by Sarah Weinman • Got Your Back - Dennis Ross plays Diplomacy via This American Life • Sting Joins the Cast of His Struggling Broadway Musical via Time MagazineSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crabb and Sales take to the road in search of Portuguese tarts and along the way talk about the best books, documentaries and TV shows based around "insider" accounts. • Top of the Morning by Brian Stelter • Brekky Central by Adam Boland • The Devil's Candy: The Anatomy of a Hollywood Fiasco by Julie Salamon • The Staircase • Fatal Vision by Joe McGinniss • The Selling of the President by Joe McGinniss • The Journalist and the Murderer by Janet Malcolm • What it Takes: The Way to the White House by Richard Ben Cramer • Life by Keith Richards • Speech-less: Tales of a White House Survivor by Matthew Latimer • The Newsroom • VEEP • Startup podcast • Poor teeth from Aeon magazine • Hand to Mouth: Living in Bootstrap America by Linda Tirado • Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America by Barbara Ehrenreich • Shine a Light - The Rolling Stones as directed by Martin Scorcese • One Day by David Nicholls • Us by David Nicholls • Jaden and Willow Smith Interview from the New York Times blogSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Crabb and Sales talk about Broadway disasters, wicked wordplay and kitchen fires. They put the smackdown on their internet trolls, Sales talks with a mouthful of cake and Crabb refuses to relinquish the microphone. And how exactly does one jelly one's own breast milk? • Jerusalem by Yotam Ottolenghi • Unreliable Memoirs by Clive James • The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon • Catch-22 by Joseph Heller • Hitch-22: A Memoir by Christopher Hitchens • Clive: The Story of Clive Palmer by Sean Parnell • The Wife Drought by Annabel Crabb • Nancy Drew 53: The Sky Phantom by Carolyn Keene • Amnesia by Peter Carey • Annabel Crabb or NOFX • Obama meets Bartlett • Old masters at the top of their game • Being Bill Murray • Vera NabokovSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Crabb and Sales talk about their idols and what it's like to make a fool of yourself when you meet them. Plus, they reveal their secret shameful foods. Tinned smoked oysters, ambrosia salad or perhaps just a bucket of deep-fried chicken? • A Chorus Line • Lyrics to Chat 10 Looks 3 by Crabb and Sales • Mary Jo Fisher • Yotam Ottolenghi • Helen Garner • The House of Grief: The Story of a Murder Trial by Helen Garner • Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov • The Child in Time by Ian McEwan • The Children Act by Ian McEwan • My Story by Julia Gillard • Diary of a Foreign Minister by Bob Carr • The Alan Clark Diaries by Alan Clark • A Bone of Fact by David Walsh • The Young Lion by Blanche d'Alpuget • Not That Kind of Girl by Lena Dunham • SerialSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.