
Changing The Industry Podcast
This podcast is dedicated to changing the automotive industry for the better, one conversation at a time.
David Roman & Lucas Underwood
Show overview
Changing The Industry Podcast has been publishing since 2020, and across the 6 years since has built a catalogue of 332 episodes, alongside 49 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 390 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 1h 3m and 1h 17m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-US-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 1 weeks ago, with 30 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2025, with 69 episodes published. Published by David Roman & Lucas Underwood.
From the publisher
This podcast is dedicated to changing the automotive industry for the better, one conversation at a time. Whether you're a technician, vendor, business owner, or car enthusiast, we hope to inspire you to improve for your customers, your careers, your businesses, and your families.
Latest Episodes
View all 332 episodesEpisode 274 - Can The Automotive Service Industry Be Saved? With Cecil Bullard and Wayne Marshall
Episode 273 - Learning from Mistakes and Building Stronger Businesses With Tara Topel
Episode 272 - Mentoring the Next Generation of Techs with Luke Murray and Charles Burke of Worldpac
Episode 271 - Training New Technicians and Building a Lasting Automotive Business With Charles Mitchell
Episode 270 - Overcoming Shop Owner Struggles: Hiring, Training, and Shop Management With Shaun Tipton
Episode 269 - Lessons Learned From Custom Car Builds and Business Ownership With Sunny Massera
Bonus Episode - Handling Customer Complaints and Raising Industry Standards in Auto Repair
Episode 268 - Mastering Shop Management and Technician Relations in Today’s Auto Industry
Episode 267 - Building and Scaling Auto Shops: Culture, Challenges, and the Drive to Grow With Arun Coumar
Episode 266 - Building Shop Efficiency and Team Culture with Greg Miller of Figs Auto Repair
Episode 265 - Modern Pay Plans and Efficiency Tips To Fix The Tech Shortage With Eric Svedberg
Bonus Episode - Vehlo CEO Reveals What's Actually Changing the Automotive Industry in 2026
Episode 264 - The Value of Diagnostics, Hands-On Classes, & Finding Happiness With Tim Iezzi & Ira Waldman
Ep 263Episode 263 - Overcoming Addiction and Trying To Find Purpose in the Automotive Industry With Cole Tanner
Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Cole Tanner, a veteran technician, who shares his journey through family business transitions, personal struggles, and the realities of working in the automotive industry. Cole opens up about overcoming addiction and trauma, emphasizing the importance of honest conversations about mental health in the trades. The group discusses technician frustrations regarding compensation, shop inefficiencies, and the vital need for support structures within the industry.00:00 Frustrating restaurant wait experience06:25 Growing up with my parents08:11 Discussing childhood challenges12:51 Breaking cycles of family trauma16:25 Losing friends to addiction19:34 Discussing compensation challenges22:25 Consistent vs erratic performance26:35 Running an efficient repair shop27:42 Technicians disconnected from inspection value33:12 End-of-month sales pressure36:27 Improving communication and accountability37:58 Discussing future plans and concerns41:13 Finding balance and past experiences46:02 Struggles with drinking habits47:53 Hitting rock bottom moments50:40 The dangers of addiction53:47 Pushing for constant improvement56:52 Taking responsibility after prison
Ep 262Episode 262 - When Generations Collide - Growing an Auto Shop with Family Values With Matt Clarke
Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Matt Clarke of Clark Automotive. Matt shares his journey back to his family's auto repair business, emphasizing the importance of refining operations and focusing on delivering high-quality service rather than chasing high car counts. The group discusses the evolving role of business coaching and training, including the value of accountability partners and the need to adapt to new technology in the industry.00:00 Trade Show Costs Are Ridiculous03:47 Union Inefficiency and Consequences09:13 "Prioritizing Quality Over Quantity"11:58 "Evolving Business Learning Challenges"14:35 "Epiphany in Management Training"18:14 "Refining Craft, Scaling Doubts"22:03 Choosing the Right Coach24:48 "Struggling with Accountability"28:06 "Unexpected Family Connections"33:15 "AI-Generated Estimate Dispute"37:26 "Balancing AI and Personal Touch"39:32 "Fitness, Gear, AI, and Darkness"44:37 "Unfiltered Critique of a Guru"45:20 "Mastery vs. Fake Expertise"48:44 "Adapting Teaching to Audience"54:39 "EV Market Resistance Analyzed"56:42 "Building Growth and Connections"58:38 "Vespa Culture: New York Only"
Ep 261Episode 261 - Navigating Grief, Taxes, and Machine Shop Dreams in the Auto Repair Industry With David Veldman
Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by David Veldman, who shares his personal journey coping with the recent loss of his father and its impact on his direction and motivation in the automotive repair business. The conversation explores how major life events, such as grief or health struggles, can affect business owners, especially those without strong support systems or sustainable operations. David Roman provides a contrasting perspective, emphasizing the importance of shifting focus toward the next generation and building a business that can survive without constant owner involvement.00:00 "Grieving Without a Rudder"10:05 "Finding Aim Through Adversity"12:08 "Finding Direction and Motivation"17:14 "Dad's Varied Career Path"24:37 Machine Shop Succession Challenges30:13 "The Box That Changed Me"34:50 Efficient Flywheel Machining Strategy39:58 "Importance of Knowledge and Processes"47:09 "Pay Taxes Like an Employee"51:14 "Tax Payment Delays Explained"57:40 "Sad Start, Weird Ending"01:03:03 Lakeside Anniversary Offer01:04:49 "Possible Marijuana Overdose"
Ep 260Episode 260 - Navigating Family Legacy and Change in the Automotive Business With Jackie & Darryl Beech
Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Darryl and Jackie Beech to explore the dynamics of running and transitioning a family-owned automotive business. Darryl reflects on the importance of having strong business processes and work-life balance, sharing his motivation to set Jackie up for long-term success as she steps into a larger leadership role. Jackie opens up about the challenges—and privileges—of carrying forward her father's legacy, focusing on the value of maintaining strong customer relationships while preparing for inevitable changes.00:00 "Doubting His Radio Future"04:40 "Family, Loss, and Betrayal"08:19 "Mismanagement and Lack of Structure"10:42 "Shopware's Lifesaving Support"14:53 Forensic Analysis in Auto Failures18:21 "Tailored Vehicle Maintenance Advice"21:31 Transitioning Business Leadership and Operations23:38 "Balancing Business and Social Hurdles"28:52 "Senior Tech Rejects Management Training"31:54 "Saving a Family Legacy"35:02 Navigating Tough Clients Effectively38:49 "Embracing Leadership Humility"40:32 "Early Career Diversification Needed"44:45 "Growth Through Decisions and Challenges"48:08 Managing Stress and Support Systems49:55 "Overcoming Recession and Struggle"53:34 "Navigating Family Life and Struggles"56:48 "Childhood Memories: The Good Side"
Ep 259Episode 259 - Building Company Culture and Beating Chargebacks in Automotive Shops With Kevaughn Williams
Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Kevaughn Williams, Operations Manager at 360 Payments. Kevaughn underscores the importance of company culture in building a motivated, accountable team, highlighting how 360’s values of transparency and peer-to-peer accountability support both employees and customers. The discussion covers practical strategies for automotive shops to protect themselves from payment chargebacks, with Kevaughn outlining red flags to watch for and offering tips to improve payment security. 00:00 "360 Culture and Leadership"04:28 "Honesty and Accountability Matter"08:13 "Impactful Workplace Culture Insights"11:16 "Towing Office Experience Reflection"14:50 Car Rental Customer Support Journey15:54 Rental Car Upgrade Mishap21:08 Mandatory Work Schedule Change24:40 Building Youthful Team for Success27:58 "Disney Trip as Life Milestone"28:40 Prioritizing People Over Business34:51 Preventing Text-to-Pay Fraud38:11 Fraud Awareness and Payment Precautions39:06 DocuSign ID and Card Verification44:24 Chargeback Fraud at Local Shop48:02 "High-Risk Account Threshold Explained"50:23 Transparency and Informed Decisions53:22 "David's CSP Concerns"56:19 "Buttoning Debate Unresolved"
Ep 258Episode 258 - Global Supply Chains, Tariffs, and the State of Parts Quality
Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Australian shop owners Kosta Ka and Peter Leondis. The group explores the differences between the Australian and American auto repair industries, focusing on challenges with access to technical information, parts quality, and emerging certification hurdles for EVs. Kosta and Peter share insights on the importance of clear communication with clients and building strong shop cultures, while Lucas and David reflect on succession planning and the risks of lacking a solid business exit strategy.00:00 Generational Gaps in Apprenticeships05:39 "OnlyFans: Limited Choices Commentary"15:31 Repair Shops Face Ebb and Flow20:31 Aftermarket vs. Dealer Parts Pricing23:47 "Licensing Drives Underground Competition"31:33 Cultural Differences in Communication Styles36:57 "Planning Beyond Fixing Cars"40:20 Business Succession and Exit Challenges47:01 Overcoming Founder Syndrome50:49 "Core Values Drive Business Success"55:13 Australian Auto Training Revolution
Ep 257Bonus Episode - Every Episode Failed For Mike Allen - Here's Why And How Vision KC Will Fix It
bonusDon't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABEShop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitabilityUtilize the fastest and easiest way to look up and order parts and tires with PartsTech absolutely free.Click here to get started: https://geni.us/PartsTechTransform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros! Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Mike Allen to preview the Vision KC conference and share industry stories. Mike recounts his challenges recording at the Elite Ignite conference and the ongoing technical mishaps that come with capturing live content. The hosts dive into shop pricing strategies, including how costs like diagnostics and amenities are often rolled into the final bill for customers. Plus, David gives a local's guide to the best food options in Kansas City, breaking down must-try barbecue, tacos, and team-dinner spots as Vision attendees prepare for their trip.00:00 "Improper Merging Rant"06:29 "Chicago Shop Success Story"08:20 "Advisor's Hilarious Customer Story"10:38 David's Intense Pre-Workout Effects16:26 "Misheard Conversation in Restroom"17:24 "Facebook: Scroll and Toilet Talk"22:43 Kansas City Dining Overview23:29 Alternative Dining Options Near Vision28:33 Restaurant Struggles Amid Tight Margins32:49 Rare 9+ Pizza Reviews38:10 Jack Stack Barbecue Recommendation40:46 "Bananas and Rice Identity"46:18 "Manscaping Mishap and Spider Trap"54:24 TPMS Law and Repair Ban56:57 "See You at Vision"