
CFO THOUGHT LEADER
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1208: Quality, Trust, and Scale | Cal Brouilette, CFO, Flatiron Health
1287: Putting Guardrails Around Aggressive Growth | Jamie Schroeder, CFO, Premium Guard Inc.
1206: The CFO as an Architect of Execution | Phil Fracassa, CFO, Magna International
1205: Giving Every Decision-Maker 40 Analysts | Matt Ostrower, CFO, Link Logistics
1204: When Capital Conviction Matters More Than Market Timing | Andrew Korn, CFO, EliseAI
1203: Making Strategy—and the Money—Move Together | Laura Miller, CFO, Strata Decision Technology
1202: Allocating Capital in an Age of AI | Samantha Greenberg, CFO, AlphaSense
The Weekend CFOs Couldn’t Reach Their Cash
1201: From Bitcoin Infrastructure to the AI Power Economy | Gary Vecchiarelli, CFO, CleanSpark
The Credibility Playbook: How CFOs Restore Belief
1200: When Finance Owns the Future | Mark Khavkin, CFO, Rula
1199: The CFO’s Biggest Challenge Isn’t AI—It’s Leading Through It | John Kinzer (Interim CFO), OneStream
1198: Building Long-Term Value Starts With Better Capital Allocation | Shane Hostetter, CFO, Chemours
Inside the CFO Mindset Before the Deal
1197: The CFO Who Learned Finance by Owning Sales | Sinohe Terrero, CFO, Envoy
Inside the IPO: Three CFOs, Three Perspectives
1196: Your Next Finance Hire Should Think Like a Founder | Martino Cadoni, CFO, DeepL
1195: When Finance is at the Center of the AI Code Revolution | Jean Compeau, CFO, Sonar
1194: Why Curiosity Creates Better Finance Leaders | Stacey Jenkins, CFO, Aerotek
1193: Building Finance Functions That Shape Outcomes | Jesse Waldron, CFO, Thyme Care
1192: Building Through Disruption | Christina Spade, CFO, Catalant
1191: From Complexity to Clarity: Building Operational Maturity | David Forlizzi, CFO, Salsify
1190: Fixing What Growth Tries to Hide | Jaylene Kunze, LegitScript
1189: Why Finance Should Lead with “Yes, And” | Bruno Annicq, CFO, Wellhub
1188: Testing Assumptions Before Burning Capital | Kevin Hettrich, CFO, QuantumScape
Bonus Replay: Building Luxury Growth Without Losing Financial Discipline | Paolo Poma, CFO, Lamborghini
Bonus Replay: Building an Early Warning System | Patrick McClymont, CFO, Hagerty
1187: Pattern Recognition: How CFOs See Around Corners | Alex Chun, CFO, NEOGOV
1186: Keeping the Applause in Check | Adam Goldbruch, CFO, DoorLoop
1185: Scaling Smarter in the AI Era | Sarah Riley, CFO, dbt Labs
1184: From Deal Sheets to Operating Seats | Rick Hasselman, CFO, Salesloft
1183: Enter the Blockchain CFO: Reshaping Capital Markets | Macrina Kgil, CFO, Future
AI, Trust, and the Expanding Role of Finance: A Sage Future Special
1182: From Cockpit Decisions to Capital Decisions | Andre Mancl, CFO, Nium
1181: What AI Means for the Future of Finance Leadership | Yuval Atsmon, CFO & Sr Partner, McKinsey & Company
1180: Where Finance Meets the Real World | Scott Thorell, CFO Benetrends
Special Episode: Why Oracle Chose Hilary Maxson Now
1179: Why Trust Can Outperform Price | Thomas Baumgartner, CFO, voestalpine Metsec
1178: From Numbers to Narrative: Seeing the Business End-to-End | David Larson, CFO, Feedzai
Special Episode: Why AI Speed Without Direction Is a Strategic Risk | Laura Belmont, General Counsel, The L Suite
1177: Navigating an Acquisition at the Edge of Change | Tom DiDesidero, CFO, SmartRecruiters
1176: From Signatures to Systems of Value | Blake Grayson, CFO, Docusign

1175: Inside the C-Suite: Where Judgment Outranks Data | Amy Wang, CFO, Procurify
Late one night in Calgary, Amy Wang was running final checks on a billion-dollar transaction when something didn’t sit right. “My immediate instinct…was to dismiss it,” she tells us. After all, multiple teams and advisors had already vetted the deal. But she couldn’t let it go. Instead, she challenged the work—carefully, respectfully—and was right. The correction prevented more than a million dollars from being misallocated.That moment became a defining inflection point. It reshaped how Wang viewed leadership—not as deference to expertise, but as the willingness to trust one’s own judgment. Titles and credentials, she tells us, may signal experience, but they don’t guarantee accuracy.Her path to CFO may appear traditional—beginning in audit and progressing through finance roles—but Wang emphasizes that the real education came from moments like this. Early in her career, she believed success meant mastering the numbers. But during Solium’s acquisition by Morgan Stanley, she saw that “everyone can read a spreadsheet,” she tells us. What truly moved the deal forward was the ability to articulate a compelling narrative behind those numbers.Today, as CFO, Wang carries both lessons forward. Technical skills may “get you into the room,” she tells us, but leadership requires asking better questions, making decisions with imperfect information, and having the courage to speak up.In an era increasingly shaped by AI, she believes that judgment—not data alone—will ultimately differentiate finance leaders.

1174: How a Hard Reset Reignited Momentum | Aidan Viggiano, CFO Twilio
In 2023, stepping into the CFO role at Twilio, Aidan Viggiano faced a defining reality: “the first hard call was a layoff,” she tells us. The company had surged during the pandemic as digital communications accelerated, but by mid-2022, growth slowed while profitability lagged. “We can’t be slowing in growth and not be profitable and not generating cash,” she explains, describing the moment that forced a fundamental shift in strategy.Over the next six months, Twilio reduced its workforce by about 40%, she tells us—a decision that tested not just financial discipline but leadership resolve. For Viggiano, the experience underscored a core principle: communication is as critical as the decision itself. “The importance of over communication…being transparent… and treating everybody with humanity,” she tells us, became central to how she navigated the transition.This moment reflects a broader leadership mindset shaped by aligning growth with accountability. The pivot from rapid expansion to balanced performance required not only cost action but a cultural reset—one grounded in clarity, trust, and execution.At the same time, Viggiano continues to frame Twilio’s value through its role as a communications infrastructure provider, powering interactions between businesses and consumers at scale. From authentication codes to real-time customer engagement, the company’s reach is often invisible but essential.For Viggiano, the lesson is clear: finance leadership is not only about numbers—it is about guiding organizations through inflection points with transparency, discipline, and humanity.

1173: The CFO at the Crossroads of Code, Capital, and Clarity | Rich Schmidt, CFO, Inmar Intelligence
Early in his career, Rich Schmidt recalls presenting an analysis of an operational challenge to leadership—only to be told, “we want you to go fix it.” The assignment marked a turning point. What began as financial analysis quickly became ownership, execution, and accountability across the business.That moment would come to define Schmidt’s future career path—one that would unfold almost entirely within Inmar Intelligence. After starting in public accounting—“a grind,” as he tells us—he gained exposure to multiple industries in rapid succession, from manufacturing to healthcare. Yet it was inside Inmar where his trajectory took shape, as he moved beyond traditional finance into roles that blended technology, operations, and execution.Rather than follow a conventional path across multiple companies, Schmidt built a reputation as a problem solver within one. Each new challenge expanded his scope. Each solution deepened trust. Over time, that pattern—analyze, act, deliver—created opportunities that no job change could have replicated.At times, the path brought uncertainty. He admits he wrestled with whether he was moving “sideways” instead of forward. But those lateral moves became his advantage—preparing him to lead initiatives like M&A integrations and enterprise transformations that required both insight and execution.Years later, that same mindset informed a defining leadership decision. Facing operational complexity after multiple acquisitions, Schmidt led a transition to a cloud-based ERP system—an investment that reduced the company’s close cycle from “eight to ten days” to “four and a half days,” he tells us.Looking back, Schmidt’s journey challenges a common assumption: that advancement requires moving on. In his case, growth came from going deeper—solving problems across the enterprise and building a reputation that ultimately carried him to the CFO seat.

1172: Finance Isn’t the Brake—It’s the Steering Wheel for Growth | Tony MacDonald, CFO, Sama
Tony MacDonald prefers a different image of the CFO role—one that replaces restraint with direction. “I would like to be considered as one of the people on the stagecoach that helps hold the reins,” he tells us, describing sales as “the horses that I want galloping always full speed ahead.”That mindset was shaped during his time at Oracle, where he operated inside a deeply sales-driven organization. There, MacDonald learned that finance could influence growth not by limiting it, but by guiding it. His role extended beyond oversight—he led financial planning across an organization of roughly 140,000 people, gaining visibility into how revenue engines scale and where they break down, he tells us.Today, that experience informs how he approaches revenue operations. Rather than acting as a gatekeeper, MacDonald positions finance as an enabler—rewarding “exceptional performance…unconditionally relative to quality revenue,” while maintaining rigorous control over the metrics that matter, he tells us.This balance requires precision. From lead generation through the sales funnel, MacDonald emphasizes continuous calibration—using data to refine performance and ensure that growth is both measurable and repeatable. He remains actively involved, even helping build marketing dashboards to improve visibility across the funnel, he tells us.For MacDonald, revenue operations is not a support function—it is where finance and strategy intersect. The goal is simple: let sales run fast, but make sure they’re headed in the right direction.

Special Episode: AI Governance & the Board: What CFOs Need to Know
In this CFO Thought Leader episode, Jack Sweeney speaks with technology general counsel Akin Adekeye about when AI becomes a board-level concern. Adekeye explains AI crosses into governance when it impacts risk, capital allocation, and competitiveness. He highlights “shadow AI” risks, regulatory uncertainty, and the need for structured oversight. Effective governance includes board involvement, executive ownership, and clear operating controls. CFOs play a central role in balancing innovation with risk, ensuring organizations neither lag competitors nor expose themselves to harm. Looking ahead, AI governance will become standardized, with rising expectations for board literacy, disclosure, and formal control frameworks.Three Key Takeaways1. AI becomes a board issue when it impacts enterprise risk and capital allocationThe transition point is not technical maturity—it’s strategic exposure. Once AI influences risk posture, investment decisions, or long-term strategy, it moves beyond IT into board-level oversight.2. Governance must evolve alongside AI adoptionBoards can no longer treat AI as a siloed innovation effort. It requires structured governance frameworks that address accountability, transparency, and cross-functional implications.3. Legal and finance leaders play a critical translation roleGeneral Counsels and CFOs are essential in helping boards understand AI’s implications—bridging technical capabilities with risk, compliance, and strategic decision-making.

1171: How CFOs Rise by Learning Sideways First | Marc Mehlman, CFO, Ascensus
Marc Mehlman still recalls the moment a senior leader pulled him aside and told him he was “in such a rush” and needed to “enjoy the journey,” he tells us. At the time, Mehlman was part of a leadership program filled with high achievers eager to move quickly into senior roles. Instead, he took a different path—spending nearly a decade moving laterally across FP&A, corporate development, strategy, and operational roles.That deliberate detour became the foundation of his leadership philosophy. By working across divisions and even geographies, Mehlman built a broad understanding of how businesses actually function. Later, when he stepped into operating roles—including leading a roughly $1 billion revenue segment—he began to see a gap. Many finance leaders could explain results, but not the decisions behind them. “They’re just numbers,” he tells us, emphasizing that financial outcomes are simply the result of actions taken across the business.Another pivotal moment came when he initially declined an investor relations role. After multiple conversations with senior leadership, he accepted—and discovered the power of communication. There, he learned to tell a consistent story, build credibility, and deliver on expectations quarter after quarter.Today, as CFO, those experiences converge. His early focus on exploration, combined with operational insight and storytelling discipline, shapes how he evaluates decisions, partners across functions, and defines the modern CFO—not as a reporter of results, but as an architect of them.

1170: Why the ‘SaaS-pocalypse’ Changed the CFO Conversation | Michael Perica, CFO, Rimini Street
Michael Perica had been discussing the market implications of AI with investors for a number of years, but the market didn’t fully react—until one particular moment. In late January and early February, a wave of announcements around enterprise-focused AI models and workflow plugins triggered what has become widely known as the “SaaS-pocalypse.” In a single day, roughly $258 billion in SaaS market value disappeared, he tells us.For Perica, the episode confirmed something he had already been sensing in conversations with investors and clients. The traditional path to enterprise modernization—committing to large, monolithic software platforms—was no longer the only option. AI, particularly emerging agentic AI technologies, was beginning to offer organizations a new route: modernizing workflows and processes without necessarily replacing entire systems.The sudden market reaction accelerated those conversations. Investors and executives began reaching out to Rimini Street asking whether this moment validated the alternative technology path the company had been discussing. For Perica, the answer was clear. The event underscored that organizations now had the ability to tailor AI models directly to specific business processes rather than conforming their operations to a rigid software roadmap.That shift has shaped how Perica thinks about strategy going forward. Instead of viewing AI purely as a tool for efficiency, he sees it as a catalyst for enterprise-wide transformation. Finance leaders, he argues, now have an opportunity to work closely with CIOs to rethink workflows, eliminate operational bottlenecks, and deploy targeted AI solutions that create quick wins across the organization.In Perica’s view, the SaaS-pocalypse wasn’t just a market correction. It was a signal that a new technology paradigm had arrived—and that forward-looking CFOs must be ready to lead the change.

1169: Thinking Bigger on the Road to the CFO Role | Andrew Bender, CFO, BNI Global
Andrew Bender still remembers a moment from high school football practice when a coach challenged him with a simple question: “Do you want to be all conference or all state?” The comment surprised him. At the time, Bender tells us he wasn’t even sure he had the potential to reach the lower bar. Yet the moment stayed with him because it revealed something important—that sometimes others see possibilities before we do.That lesson about recognizing potential shaped how Bender approached his career decisions. Early on, while working at William Blair, he faced a choice common among his peers: continue toward private equity or pursue a different path. Instead of following the typical investment track, he realized he preferred working inside organizations rather than advising them from the outside. The parts of investment banking he enjoyed most involved “diving into the organizations” he represented, Bender tells us.Over time, that realization led him toward roles blending strategy and finance. Consulting and business school helped him develop structured problem-solving skills and the ability to learn new industries quickly. Later, at Snyder’s-Lance, he worked across corporate strategy and business-unit finance, gaining operational perspective that would prepare him for future CFO roles.That blend of strategy and finance thinking surfaced again after Bender joined BNI Global. Preparing board materials, he realized the company tracked numerous KPIs but struggled to explain performance drivers. If the metrics didn’t link to financial outcomes, he recalls thinking, “what are we doing here?”The solution was simplification. Bender helped refocus leadership on five core business drivers—member renewals, visitor activity, conversion rates, chapter launches, and pricing—while teaching operational leaders how those metrics translate into financial performance.