S1. E7. Coaching, Therapy, and the Culture of ‘Tough It Out’ with Destiny Morris
Carry On Fire Family · Audra Carrion
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Show Notes
In this episode, Audra Carrion and Destiny Morris, LMFT, unpack one of the most misunderstood topics in mental health: the difference between therapy and coaching. Together, they explore how cultural competence shapes effective therapy, especially within first responder communities where strength is often mistaken for silence.
They talk stigma, self-awareness, and what’s changing as new generations of first responders demand more accessible, human-centered mental health care. You’ll also hear insights on ethical boundaries, training gaps, and what both fields can learn from each other as the mental health landscape evolves.
If you’ve ever wondered “Do I need a coach or a therapist?” or how we can better support those who run toward the chaos, this conversation is for you.
Follow @onbeingresilient for more from Destiny or visit her website https://www.destinymorristherapy.com/
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Takeaways
Therapy requires extensive training and credentialing, while coaching does not.
Coaching is future-focused, while therapy often delves into past traumas.
Therapists have ethical guidelines that coaches may lack.
Cultural competence is crucial for therapists working with first responders.
Stigma around therapy still exists in many first responder communities.
Younger generations are more open to discussing mental health.
Self-diagnosing based on social media can be dangerous.
Therapists should be trained in trauma modalities to effectively help clients.
Dark humor is a coping mechanism for first responders but should be balanced with addressing real feelings.
Finding culturally competent therapists is essential for effective treatment.
Chapters
00:00 Journey to Therapy: Destiny's Story
04:08 Understanding Therapy: Definitions and Differences
07:09 Coaching vs. Therapy: Key Distinctions
09:53 Red Flags in Coaching and Therapy
13:00 The Role of Dark Humor in Therapy
15:30 Cultural Competence in Therapy for First Responders
17:56 Breaking the Stigma: Therapy in First Responder Communities
21:05 Generational Shifts in First Responder Mental Health
23:50 Legacy and Impact: Destiny's Vision
26:22 Resources for Finding Culturally Competent Therapists
36:22 Black and White Modern Animated Vlog YouTube Intro (4).mp4