Season 4 · Episode 10
s04e10 | Bureaucratic Incompetence & the Death of Expertise, with Michelle Naef
Calmversations · Benjamin Boyce
October 6, 20211h 39m
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Show Notes
Michelle Naef is an engineer with many years in Canadian Oil, and is now working on her doctorate in organizational theory. In this interview we talk about the "clay layer" of middle management that is gumming up so much of our institutions, and causing failures in public trust and safety. Brilliant woman! Follow her on twitter @Bornforbarn
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