Is The Problem In Israel Rooted in 1967 or 1948?

When I was in Israel a few weeks ago, a number of the Israelis I interviewed marveled at how quickly things had gone back to normal in Israel, Post-Corona. One of those guests, Yonatan Sagiv - the novelist - told me that we’ll know we’re back to normal when Israelis have to resume dealing with their pre-pandemic problems. Well, over these past 10 days, one conflict lit right back up in a tragic way - Israel’s off-again, on-again war with Hamas. So that’s what we’re going to discuss in this episode. Now, I know that this is not the kind of topic we typically cover on this podcast. But it’s an issue I care a lot about, and so I want to use this conversation to try to shed some light to what is a very heated issue. There’s a ton of noise over here in the West about what just happened between Gaza and Israel - plenty of hot takes, with very little discussion about the history and context. There’s nobody better to help us unpack what just happened than Dr. Daniel Gordis, who I've known for over 20 years. Danny Gordis moved to Israel in 1998, and raised three kids in Israel. Danny is one of the most thoughtful observers of Israeli life and Israeli history. He is Senior Vice President and the Koret Distinguished Fellow at Shalem College, a liberal arts college in Israel that he co-founded. Hours before the ceasefire, we sat down with Dr. Daniel Gordis in Jerusalem with this core question: did the Gaza War of 2021 remind us that the conflict is not over the 1967 borders, but rather it’s 1948, Israel’s founding.

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor · Daniel Gordis, Dan Senor