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On the earth-shaking events of the 20th century, through a personal lens. Regular contributor Alex Gourevitch sits down with political scientist Peter Gourevitch to talk about their shared family history. Why did their grandparents/great-grandparents become Mensheviks? How did one half of the family leave the USSR and the other half remain? What was life like in exile in Berlin before the Nazis took power? And how did the family know to flee? What was distinctive about fascism and the terroristic assault on democracy? How was the escape from Paris just like the film Casablanca? What happened to those who remained in the Soviet Union and how did one member meet death via torture? What is the legacy of Menshevism – and what is the relationship between socialism and democracy? Links: Who Lived, Who Died? My Family's Struggle with Stalin and Hitler, Peter Gourevitch, Dio Press Full episode for subscribers only. Go to patreon.com/bungacast. Members who sign up for $7/mo get 4 original paywalled episodes a month and a free subscription to Damage magazine.

On saving society from the antisocial-ists. In partnership with Damage magazine. [Patreon Exclusive] Trade unionist and researcher Dustin "Dino" Guastella joins us to talk about the deficiencies of a libertarian or antinomian approach to social problems. We start off with Dino telling us about the Teamsters union, before moving on to: How have American cities developed such problems? What are the pros and cons of the 'Portuguese Model' of drug decriminalization? What is the problem with harm reduction, and how does it connect to notions of 'bare life'? How are insecurity and precarity changing people's political demands and expectations? Is there something to be learned from the Christian tradition? Should we all be reading Alasdair MacIntyre? How do we build a politics of human flourishing? Links: Making the Present the Enemy of the Future, Dino Guastella, Damage Anti-Social Socialism Club, Dino Guastella, Damage Christianity, Morality, and Socialism, Dino Guastella, Jacobin The left must embrace law and order, Slavoj Zizek, New Statesman After Virtue: A Study in Moral Theory, Alasdair MacIntyre

On Euro censorship + your comments and criticisms. [Patreon Exclusive] We discuss censorship in Brussels and Berlin, and put it in the context of the incorporation of right-populism. How will European politics come to look as national-conservatives become part of the establishment? What's up with these "sovereigntists" who are unserious about sovereignty? Also we discuss your comments: If cultural production is already monopolistic, can it be democratically planned? Should we problematise "mental health"? Is love a dangerous political emotion? What happens if you leave the left? How do we kill the ghosts of the 20th century? Is a generational analysis of left-populism wrong? How do we get beyond a world of media and images? Links: NatCon: are centrists the real threat to free speech?, Alex Hochuli, UnHerd

On the Big Hard Dick industry. [Patreon Exclusive] Clinicians and Damage authors & editors, Christie and Benjamin, tell us why the market for penis enlargement and hardness has exploded. What is the "penis anxiety industry" How does it serve individual, cultural and unconscious demands? How does 'Big Hard Dick' provide a brittle solution to a deep social problem? Is the Freudian analysis passé? Is it phallus-obsessed? Does a making your penis bigger and harder help deal with imposter syndrome? Does neoliberal capitalism make us feel "small"? Does the liberal elite want you to accept your smallness? How might we be big – make ambitious, large-scale change – without falling for fake solutions? Links: Size Queen Nation, Christie Offenbacher & Benjamin Fife, Damage /215/ Organize the Incels?! ft. Alex Gendler The New Superfluous Men, Alex Gendler, American Affairs On masquerade vs imposture: How Should a Woman Look?: Scopic Strategies for Sexuated Subjects, Jennifer Friedlander Penis Envy and Other Bad Feelings: The Emotional Costs of Everyday Life, Mari Ruti, Columbia UP

On melodrama and the bourgeois subject. [Patreon Exclusive] We're back with the next installment of our series on the "emotional turn". Alex talks to Catherine Liu about whether politics is staged in a "melodramatic" fashion today. What is the bourgeois subject, why was it good, and where did it go? What is melodrama? Does public crying make us feel connected? Is it all Oprah's fault? Why is psychoanalysis the solution to, not the cause of, therapy culture? How is indignation used today? Is the political scene just villains and victims? Links: Emotion Sickness I ft. Nina Power Emotion Sickness II ft. Ashley Frawley Emotion Sickness III ft. Alex Hochuli Oprah Winfrey and the Glamour of Misery, Eva Illouz Interview with Christine Gledhill, from the book Melodrama After the Tears

On President AMLO and the rebuilding the working class. [Patreon Exclusive] We continue our discussion with anthropologist Roger Lancaster who has lived and researched in Mexico for decades, on the past and present of Mexican radicalism. How has popular conservatism served as a boost for radicalism and revolution Is there any basis for a 'romantic' anti-capitalism, in Mexico, or in the Global North? Is President AMLO synthesising a new politics? Has he “ended neoliberalism” or on the way to it? How socially conservative is AMLO really?

On A New Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere and Deliberative Politics [Patreon Tier III & IV Exclusive] Continuing our theme of "the intelligentsia & the public," we discuss German critical theorist Jürgen Habermas's 2023 book, asking what sort of political culture is required for democracy. What role do the institutions of the public sphere and the media have in producing, sustaining or undermining this culture? How does Habermas' account contrast with B. Anderson on print capitalism? Is 'deliberative' democracy a trap? Who sets the rules of deliberation? Is a good media structure a 'constitutional imperative'? How do interests fit into Habermas' model? Do we need to leave our interests at the door? Links: A New Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere and Deliberative Politics, Jurgen Habermas Jürgen Habermas is a major public intellectual. What are his key ideas?, Duncan Ivison, The Conversation /362/ Life Doesn’t Have to Zuck ft. Cory Doctorow - on social media

On Mexico, class, and sexuality. We welcome anthropologist Roger Lancaster onto the pod to talk about his new book, The Struggle to Be Gay – in Mexico, for Example. We discuss: How much is being gay tied to being modern? And conversely, how much of globalized culture is itself "gay"? Do you need to be middle class to be gay? Why did neoliberalism provide more sexual freedom than corporatism in Mexico? How was Mexico ahead of the US in introducing ‘progressive neoliberalism’? Is now a time of freedom, or should we think of it differently? In part two, we discuss AMLO's "synthetic" presidency, and the way peasant conservatism in central America has traditionally provided a boost to radicalism – and ask whether this is still the case. Only available at patreon.com/bungacast. See also: /180/ Bunga Bunga (but Gay) ft. Mark Simpson & River Page

On Portugal's elections, 50 years since the revolution Catarina Príncipe, a long-time activist on the Portuguese left and a doctoral student of political economy, is back on the podcast to talk through what happened as Portugal went to the polls. How does Portugal see itself, with regard to Europe, and its own history? How did the right-populist Chega party break through amid high turnout? What kind of anti-politics did Chega bring to the table? Is there nostalgia for the dictatorship? How did immigration become an issue in a country where emigration is the big problem? What is going on with Portugal's huge housing crisis? Why has the EU disappeared as a political issue, 10 years on from the peak of the crisis? Bungacast is expanding, with new regular contributors, partnership with Damage magazine and more. Read about it here or see the video. Links: In Portugal’s Election, the Center Left Struggles to Hold On, João Murta & Guilherme Rodrigues Europe After Brexit, Bungacast live event, ft. Catarina Principe + others

On what comes next: in politics, ideas, economy, subjectivity To commemorate seven years of the podcast and four-hundred episodes, we got all our new Contributors in to examine the oppositions and tensions that we think will characterise the next decade. We say hello to Amber A'Lee Frost, Alex Gourevitch, Catherine Liu, and Leigh Phillips. For all Bungacast shows, including our Contributors, the Damage magazine episode, Reading Club and more, go to patreon.com/bungacast Politics Right-populism: insurgency or incorporation The Left: engagement or reclusion Multipolarity: opportunity or restriction War: inertia or action Industry & Economy Work: precarity or militancy Green Capitalism: industry or austerity Tech: exhaustion or enchantment Ideas & Art Truth: the image or the word Belief: reason or romanticism Individual & Society Subjectivity: vulnerability or resilience Sex: liberation or puritanism Sociability: virtuality or embodiment

On the withdrawal from hyperpolitics and hypermodernity. [Patreon Exclusive] What comes after a decade of populism? Alex Hochuli talks through his new essay in Damage, issue 2. This is episode is the third part of our Emotion Sickness series on the politics of feelings. Click here for part 1 and part 2. If we are disengaging from politics, what is the associated feeling - resentment or resignation? Why are our times "hypermodern" – and why is this exhausting? What can the examples of the 'great resignation', 15-minute cities, and postliberalism all tell us about the ways people are withdrawing from modernity? Why do we need to decelerate to save modernity? How might we gain control of time? This episode is in partnership with Damage. Bungacast subscribers ($7+) automatically get a digital subscription to the magazine. Go to patreon.com/bungacast. Links: From ADHD to Let Me Be: Taking Control of Time, Alex Hochuli, Damage Damage issue 2: "Deinstitutionalized" (subscribe for Alex's essay + more) /365/ It’s So Over (Again) ft. Ryan Zickgraf (see also the links in show notes) Hypermodern Times, Gilles Lipovetsky Social Acceleration, Hartmut Rosa Scorched Earth, Jonathan Crary

Part II of the series: on therapy and vulnerability. [Patreon Exclusive: subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast] Sociologist Ashley Frawley (and COO of Sublation Press) is back on the podcast to talk about her new book, Significant Emotions. What is behind the seeming rise of public emotionalism and the focus on mental health? How was “happiness” a policy concern – and when did it disappear and why? What’s going on with universities and their focus on the mental health of students? Is there much emotion about, in a romantic sense of deep feeling? Or is it emotion ersatz, instrumentalised, superficial, sentimentalised? How does affect polarise politically Left and Right? Can we solve the crisis of subjectivity by focusing on the self? And who is the Big-Ass Subject? Links: Significant Emotions: Rhetoric and Social Problems in a Vulnerable Age, Ashley Frawley, Bloomsbury Sublation Media Ashley's YouTube channel

On Benedict Anderson's classic Imagined Communities. [Patreon Exclusive. Subscribe: patreon.com/bungacast] Originally published in 1983, Anderson's account of the origins of nations is one of the most cited books in English in the humanities. In what ways does this diverse and inventive book still explain the world? How is imagined different from imaginary? Did nations emerge first in Latin America? Does Anderson's account of print capitalism still apply – and is it more valid than ever? Are we really in a post-national era? Does Anderson underestimate the political side – the project of achieving your 'own' state? Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origin and Spread of Nationalism (pdf) The Reading Club this year is dedicated to three themes: the rise and fall of nations; intellectuals and the public; Russia: past and present.

Turbulent times, ideological confusion. Politics is back, but it's stranger than ever. All the more reason for unflinching critique of the current moment. That's why Bungacast is expanding. Regular contributors are coming on-board: Catherine Liu, Amber Frost, Alex Gourevitch, and Leigh Phillips We're partnering up with Damage Magazine There'll be many more exclusive episodes – see patreon.com/bungacast And a new Reading Club, with new themes!

On media and the Millennial Left. [Patreon Exclusive: for full episode, subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast] Continuing the retrospective on the millennial left's failures, we invite political theorist Benjamin Studebaker back on. We discuss: Was left-populism a media event? Was the Millennial Left just a moment in internet history? Having bought into the internet's possibilities, can we abandon it? Does it make sense to speak of a "millennial" left? Faced with so many dead ends, do we need to "go monastic"? Links: The Millennial Left as a Moment in Internet History, Benjamin Studebaker Omelets with Eggshells: On the Failure of the Millennial Left, Alex Hochuli, American Affairs. Additional comments on Alex's Substack

On the missed opportunity of the 2010s. Chris Cutrone of Platypus joins us to talk about his collection of essays, The Death of the Millennial Left. We discuss: Why define it as the "Millennial" Left? Was the anti-Stalinism of leaderless protests a good thing? Did the talk of "winning" from 2015 onwards represent maturity? Should the turn to a more public, statist capitalism make us more optimistic? How will the 'lawfare' used against Trump play out? Links: The Millennial Left is dead, Chris Cutrone, Platypus The Death of the Millennial Left: Interventions 2006-2022, Chris Cutrone, Sublation

On the politics of emotions and emotionalism. Philosopher Nina Power (an editor and columnist at Compact Magazine) kicks off this series by talking to us about anger, hate, and evil. Do we complain too little or too much? Should we be more repressed? Political passions were meant to be dead. Has anger overtaken apathy? Should we hate our enemies? Is that okay? Has contemporary society become hysterical? Why does everyone want to be a victim today? How does this relate to self-interest? Is evil a psychological concept? For part two, subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast Links: What Do Men Want?: Masculinity and Its Discontents, Nina Power, Penguin Books Nina's columns at Compact Magazine Political Ponerology, Andrew Lobaczewski, Red Pill Press (pdf)

On Indonesia's new president and the End of History. For the full episode: patreon.com/bungacast Michael Vann, Indonesia expert and history professor at Sacramento State, joins us to talk through the election results. How did Prabowo go from wannabe fascist dictator to cuddly populist grandpa? Why is Jokowi "Indonesia's Obama"? What is Indonesia's Trump/Hunter Biden ticket? What's up with the $32bn new capital being built in Borneo? What is the Museum of Anticommunism, and how successfully has Indonesia's ruling class rewritten its history? Plus: why is metal so popular in Indonesia? Links: Suharto’s Old Guard Is Still Calling the Shots in Indonesia, Michael Vann, Jacobin Shadow Puppets and Special Forces: Indonesia’s Fragile Democracy, Michael Vann, The Diplomat (on police v military clashes) Indonesia state apparatus is preparing to throw election to a notorious massacre general, Allan Nairn, The Intercept Prabowo's 'fashy' 2014 campaign video Prabowo's 'cuddly' 2024 persona /391/ The Biggest Country No One Talks About ft. Vedi Hadiz

On our '1914 vibes'. And your questions & comments. [Patreon Exclusive] We discuss the parallels between our age (the end of globalisation, the threat of war) with the end of the Belle Epoque in the early 20th century. What might Lenin have to teach us? We then turn to your questions and comments on: Palestinians as surplus population Peripheral countries as 'imitators' Whether Brexit has led to greater political accountability Why Ridley Scott sucks Why contemporary art sucks Bonapartism and techno-populism Romanticising dead workers - and old social-democrats Esoteric knowledge about how the world *really* works Readings: Lenin's Lesson for Western Liberals, Philip Cunliffe, UnHerd Why the Tories Are Blowing Brexit, George Hoare, The Northern Star

On Indonesia: a country without a Left. Foremost scholar of Indonesian politics and political economy, Vedi Hadiz of the University of Melbourne, joins us to talk through the country's politics in advance of the elections next week. What was the authoritarian order that followed the 1965 anti-communist massacres? How did the Asian financial crisis lead towards democratisation – and how did the old oligarchy manage to retain much of its power? How has Indonesia become "Islamified", and what is "Islamic populism"? How do class and ethnicity/religion interact in Indonesia? Who speaks for the "downtrodden"? Is the upcoming election a contestation between oligarchic populisms? Links: /121/ Those Murdering Bastards ft. Vincent Bevins, Bungacast Marketing Morality in Indonesia's Democracy, Vedi Hadiz, East Asia Forum The demise of the left and the Islamisation of dissent in Indonesia, Vedi Hadiz, Melbourne Asia Review (video) Indonesia’s 2024 Presidential Election Could Be the Last Battle of the Titans, Carnegie Endowment The Act of Killing, dir. Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012

On El Salvador and mass incarceration. Nayib Bukele, El Salvador's president, has just been re-elected on a landslide. His trademark policy is a state of emergency and the locking-up of tens of thousands of suspected gang members. He also made Bitcoin legal tender. What is 'Bukelismo', will it last, and will it spread? First, we talk to Nelson Rauda, an editor at investigative outlet El Faro about the mood in El Salvador, what the state of emergency has been like, who the main gangs are and whether Bukele has secretly been negotiating with them, and what opposition there is to Bukele's subversion of democracy and civil liberties. Then, Juan Rojas, Latin America columnist at Compact Magazine, joins us to discuss why such 'mano dura' (iron fist) policies have failed elsewhere but why they continue to appeal across the region – including among the poor and working class. For part two, subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast Readings: El Salvador’s Bitcoin Paradise Is a Mirage, Nelson Rauda, NYT Behind Bukele's Revolution, Juan Rojas & Geoff Shullenberger, Compact On Security, Bukele and Petro Have a Problem in Common, Juan Rojas, Americas Quarterly In response to killings, El Salvador’s bitcoin president attacks civil liberties, Nelson Rauda, LA Times The Rise of Nayib Bukele, El Salvador's Authoritarian President, Jonathan Blitzer, New Yorker Chaos in Ecuador, Guillaume Long, Sidecar/NLR ¡Viva la ‘eficracia’!, Martin Caparrós, El País

On how to respond to conformity. Lias Saoudi, frontman of the British band Fat White Family, joins us to talk about rock, popular culture and contemporary unfreedom. We discuss: Why are the kids taking less drugs? Can we respond to our nihilistic times with nihilistic art? What is the nature of conformity today? How to challenge conformity without sneering at the masses? Is there a romantic revival going on? Why is Lias interested in Ivan Illich? If living cheaply in big cities is now very difficult for artists, will something new emerge from the provinces? Links: Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family & the Miracle of Failure, Lias Saoudi & Adelle Stripe, White Rabbit Books Punk's spirit is broken, Lias Saoudi, UnHerd Is modern medicine making us sick?, Lias Saoudi, UnHerd Forthcoming album: Forgiveness Is Yours /353/ Bunga Sells Out ft. Jason Myles - on music and the spectacle /359/ Apollo Gets High ft. Benjamin Fong - on drugs in America

Double episode! On Giovanni Arrighi's Adam Smith in Beijing. [Patreon Tier II & III Exclusive] We wrap up the 2023 syllabus by taking on the second half of Arrighi's book, in which he analyses the over-reach and decline of the US empire, and whether China's rise and role in world affairs presents a different model, one that might be more peaceful. We discuss: How important was the neo-cons' Project for a New American Century? What were the long-term consequences of the Iraq invasion? What do we make of Arrighi's theoretical account of imperialism and the tension between territorial and capitalistic logics? Did the USA represent a "world state" after WWII, and how did it fail? What is the world-historic meaning of China’s development? Do we buy Arrighi’s attempt at a Smithean vision of inter-civilizational harmony? Links: Adam Smith in Beijing:Lineages of the Twenty-First Century, Giovanni Arrighi /305/ Techno-Feudal Unreason - on 'political' capitalism and plunder /250/ Oil & Disorder ft. Helen Thompson - on imperialism, the world system and energy /195/ No Shock China ft. Isabella Weber - on China avoiding neoliberal shock-therapy

On Dirtbag and the Millennial Left. Bungacast regular Amber A'Lee Frost is back to talk about her new book, Dirtbag — part memoir, part critical essays on millennial socialism. In this episode we discuss: Why "millennial"? Does it make sense to talk in generational terms? What are the left's "perversions" as Amber sees them? 'Occupy' was all leaderless, horizontalist crap. Why did Amber stick around? Bernie Sanders did not leave an organizational legacy – why? After the failure of left-populism, in US and Europe, was it all worth it? At patreon.com/bungacast we continue discussing the problems of DSA, as well as look forward to the US election and ask whether there's a vibe-shift at Davos. Links: Dirtbag OK Bunger! The Problem of Generations (5-part Bungacast docu-series on generations)

On what comes after human rights. Juliano Fiori, essayist and director of Alameda Institute, joins us to talk about catastrophism and organising around "the end". We discuss: What was humanitarianism, and why was it the "last utopia"? What does humanitarianism look like in an era of multipolarity? Does Western liberal democracy have any gas left in it? What should we defend? What politics are generated by the prevailing sense of anxiety and melancholia? If modernity is over, do we need to reject all progressivism? And how do we orient around catastrophe without falling into the trap of emergency politics? Links: "Notes on our Melancholy Present" in Amidst the Debris: Humanitarianism and the End of Liberal Order, Juliano Fiori Towards a strategic catastrophism - a radicalism for catastrophic times, Juliano Fiori About Alameda

On the missed opportunity of the 2010s. [Patreon Exclusive] Chris Cutrone of Platypus joins us to talk about his collection of essays, The Death of the Millennial Left. We discuss: Why define it as the "Millennial" Left? Was the anti-Stalinism of leaderless protests a good thing? Did the talk of "winning" from 2015 onwards represent maturity? Should the turn to a more public, statist capitalism make us more optimistic? How will the 'lawfare' used against Trump play out? Links: The Millennial Left is dead, Chris Cutrone, Platypus The Death of the Millennial Left: Interventions 2006-2022, Chris Cutrone, Sublation

On NATO expansion and the end of neutrality Previously a Patreon Exclusive. For more like this, subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast Lily Lynch is back on the pod to talk about Northern and Eastern Europe and growing hawkishness. We discuss: Why did Sweden and Finland give up decades of neutrality - and why now? What happens with an enlarged alliance in light of the conflict in Ukraine? How does the current moment compare to the apogee of the Non-Aligned Movement? Why were the realists right? How is tech mythology helping to build 'digital nationalism'? Why is there beef over grain between Poland and Ukraine? And what the hell are the "skin suit of social democracy" and the "Waluigi of neutrality"? Links: Joining the West, Lily Lynch, Sidecar The realists were right, Lily Lynch, New Statesman The EU’s great power delusions, Lily Lynch, New Statesman Guns, grain, and history, Lily Lynch, New Statesman Tech-Mythologies, Lily Lynch, Sidecar Imperfect Unity, Lily Lynch, Sidecar

FROM THE VAULT: ALEX'S PICK (2) On The Economist and the contradictions of global liberalism. Alexander Zevin joins us to discuss his work on the 176 year history of the magazine that has accompanied liberalism's global expansion. Has it just reflected the world or has it actually influenced politics? How has The Economist balanced democracy against the interests of finance and the needs of empire? And is the magazine suffering from N.O.B.S.? Subscribe: patreon.com/BungaCast Running order: (06:02) Overview & early days (29:52) 19th century & empire (34:18) 20th century, esp 1930s and '40s (48:08) End of the Cold War and NOBS (01:02:19) Liberalism & its enemies

FROM THE VAULT: GEORGE'S PICK (1) On “culture”. We discuss who produces culture and who consumes it – and what those inequalities reveal about culture today. Also, we ask what’s the ploblem with culture anyway and end up defending “low culture” from Red Hot Chili Peppers (well, sorta) to food guys. Reading: Culture is Bad for You, Orian Brook, Dave O'Brien and Mark Taylor, Manchester UP

FROM THE VAULT: ALEX'S PICK (1) In which we lay the liberal establishment down on the shrink's sofa. It's a systematic analysis of liberal derangement: of the inability to accept, explain, or respond to the breakdown of the current order. Why can't the liberal establishment accept that the 2008 crisis would eventually have political consequences? Why can't liberals explain why they keep losing? Why can't they offer anything but more of the same? Symptoms: Incredulity and denial of political change Unwillingness to take responsibility Moralisation No belief in political causation (things just happen) Fetishising disinformation Elite persecution complex Hysteria & catastrophism Nostalgia for a very recent past & rewriting history Repetition compulsion

FROM THE VAULT: GEORGE'S PICK (2) On the unexpected origins of neoliberalism. We talk to Quinn Slobodian, author of Globalists, about how neoliberals look back to the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the League of Nations. Why does neoliberalism talk about freedom, but promote order? Is neoliberalism about more or less state - or is it about what kind of state? Plus why the genuine neoliberals didn’t care about the Cold War and how Murray Rothbard laid the ground for Trump. Readings: Globalists, Quinn Slobodian Neoliberalism’s World Order, Adam Tooze Why I am not a conservative, F.A. von Hayek The EU is a betrayal of Europe’s exceptionalism, Douglas Carswell Subscribe for access to the Synthesis Session, where the guys discuss the broader implications: patreon.com/bungacast

FROM THE VAULT: PHIL'S PICK (1) On British decline. Much ink has been spilled over the Britain’s fate since the end of its empire. Could it be that decline has been overstated? And what will happen to Britain as it leaves the European Union? We discuss how the history of the Industrial Revolution and Cold War militarism still shapes British politics today, as David Edgerton joins us to talk about the his latest book, 'The Rise and Fall of the British Nation'. Readings: A misremembered empire, David Edgerton, Tortoise Britain’s 20th-century industrial revolution, Colin Kidd, New Statesman (review of Edgerton's book) Britain's persistent racism cannot simply be explained by its imperial history, David Edgerton, The Guardian

FROM THE VAULT: PHIL'S PICK (2) The third in our Neoliberal Breakdown series. In which we discuss the late Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism, 10 years on. Does his analysis still hold? The mood music of the time - the age of 'TINA' and the end of history - was acutely described by Fisher. But did it only really describe Britain? And has the world now entered a new period? Readings: Capitalist Realism http://www.zero-books.net/books/capitalist-realism 'Exiting the Vampire Castle' https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/mark-fisher/exiting-vampire-castle Mark Fisher's k-punk blog https://k-punk.org/ Cover image: 📸 Stephanie Jung

On contemporary art. Critic and editor at Art Review, JJ Charlesworth, joins us to talk about why so much contemporary art is bad. We discuss: Why is art no longer about beauty? Are we stuck between art that is either superficial or hyperpolitical? Why has there been a turn towards the mystical and irrational in art? How are ideas of the indigenous and the ecological represented in art today? Is there a romantic revolt against reason and is it new? Links: Criticism, Art and Theory in 1970s Britain: The Critical War, JJ Charlesworth The Return of Magic in Art, JJ Charlesworth, Art Review Gabriel Massan’s Decolonial Games, JJ Charlesworth, Art Review The naked truth about Marina Abramović – her ‘art’ is a joke, JJ Charlesworth, Telegraph

On Ridley Scott's Napoleon. [Patreon Exclusive] We couldn't avoid discussing the new biopic about the "world soul" himself, Napoleon Bonaparte. The film isn't great, but what can we learn from it? And how does it sit in a context in which most biopics today are about musicians, business leaders and scientists? We discuss: Why did Scott choose to focus on Napoleon's relationship with Josephine? What is Scott trying to say, if anything, about Napoleon and the Napoleonic wars? Where are the depictions of youth, revolution and modernity? Are there any redeeming aspects to the film? What do we make of Phoenix's portrayal? Are we seeing the return of films about Great Men of History?

On taking control. The Netherlands has elected an anti-EU rightist, but he won't take the Netherlands out of the European Union. Britain left the EU, but net migration to the UK has soared to its highest levels. What's going on? In this special episode, Alex treats Phil and George as interview guests and grills them over their book, Taking Control: Sovereignty and Democracy after Brexit. We discuss: Why all the fuss for Brexit, when things have ended up the same as they were before? Why Brexit when the same politicians are still in charge? Why was no section of society able to lead Brexit with a positive vision of the future? Did Brexiteers need a more concrete proposal beyond "democracy"? What lessons can be learned from Brexit by others in the EU?

On Giovanni Arrighi's Adam Smith in Beijing: Lineages of the 21st Century [Patreon Tier II & III Exclusive] We discuss the Part 2 of this landmark book from 2008, debating theories of Western economic decline: Robert Brenner's, and Arrighi's critique of it. Points discussed: Are you 'Team Brenner' or 'Team Arrighi'? Was neoliberalism a counter-revolution? A passive revolution? A restoration? How does the depression of the 1870s compare to that of the 1970s or the post-2008 period? What are the characteristics of our own Belle Époque (1993-2007) What matters more in explaining the downturn: inter-capitalist global competition? Upward wage pressure? The role of the global South? Links: Adam Smith in Beijing: Lineages of the 21st Century, Giovanni Arrighi, Verso (2008)

On Australia's lockdown. We welcome back Shahar Hameiri and Tom Chodor to talk about their new book, The Locked-Up Country, to try to learn some lessons from Australia's response to Covid-19. We also talk about the country's recent Indigenous Voice referendum and ask whether it was Oz's "Brexit Moment". In the episode we ask: Was the pandemic another success for the 'lucky country'? How was the Australian state transformed from the 1970s to the 2020s? Why was Australia's pandemic planning inadequate? What was up with the hotel-based quarantines? Why did the public largely support these measure? And what can the rest of the world learn from the experience?

On your criticisms. [Patreon Exclusive - subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast] We respond to your points made in the comments on Patreon over the past few months. The first section is of course dedicated to the Gaza war, followed by discussion on hyperliberalism, neutrality, big tech, outsourcing, and drugs. Now available also as video on Patreon.

On John Gray's The New Leviathans. [Patreon Exclusive - for the full episode, follow the link] We discuss the British post-liberal philosopher's new book, looking at his background, ideological journey, and why he might be of interest. We also ask: How does John Gray use Hobbes and the idea of a Leviathan? What is a "state of nature", and what would an artificial state of nature be? Is Gray right in this characterization of liberalism? Is hyperliberalism the product of liberalism's decay? What is postliberalism and how does Gray’s project fit with it? Readings: The New Leviathans: Thoughts After Liberalism, John Gray Pseudo-Leviathans, George Hoare, Damage

On a decade of protest around the world. Journalist Vincent Bevins is back on the podcast to talk about his new book, If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution. We discuss the 2010s protest wave across countries as varied as Egypt, Turkey, Brazil, Ukraine, Hong Kong, Chile, Bahrain, Yemen, South Korea and Tunisia. We ask: Why were protests in places that were so different all look so similar? Why was there such a focus on spontaneity, leaderlessness, peformativity, and horizontalism? What are some examples of the ways protests rejected representation? Was class or generation more important in driving these protests? Why did media becomes so important in pursuing political change? How can we avoid a repeat of the failures of the 2010s? Links: If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution, Vincent Bevins, Public Affairs The mass protest decade: why did the street movements of the 2010s fail?, Vincent Bevins, The Guardian The End of the End of History: Politics in the 21st Century, Bungacast authors, Zer0 Books /121/ Those Murdering Bastards ft. Vincent Bevins /279/ Society of the Speculative ft. Aris Komporozos-Athanasiou

On NATO expansion and the end of neutrality [Patreon Exclusive - for the full episode, sign up @ patreon.com/bungacast] Lily Lynch is back on the pod to talk about Northern and Eastern Europe and growing hawkishness. We discuss: Why did Sweden and Finland give up decades of neutrality - and why now? What happens with an enlarged alliance in light of the conflict in Ukraine? How does the current moment compare to the apogee of the Non-Aligned Movement? Why were the realists right? How is tech mythology helping to build 'digital nationalism'? Why is there beef over grain between Poland and Ukraine? And what the hell are the "skin suit of social democracy" and the "Waluigi of neutrality"? Links: Joining the West, Lily Lynch, Sidecar The realists were right, Lily Lynch, New Statesman The EU’s great power delusions, Lily Lynch, New Statesman Guns, grain, and history, Lily Lynch, New Statesman Tech-Mythologies, Lily Lynch, Sidecar Imperfect Unity, Lily Lynch, Sidecar

On Giovanni Arrighi's Adam Smith in Beijing: Lineages of the 21st Century [Patreon Tier II & III Exclusive] We discuss the Introduction and Part 1 of this landmark book from 2008 and ask if Arrighi's vision of China, the West and the structure of the global economy was correct. Points discussed: What's at stake in thinking of East Asian growth as a renaissance, or correction of the historical blip of European ascendency? How compelling is the account of East Asian success as a fusion of industrious and industrial revolution? Was Arrighi right to focus on the neoconservative Project for a New American Century? What do we think about Adam Smith's account of different classes' capacity for political action What's at stake in the revisionist view of Adam Smith as pro-state Enlightenment thinker rather than patron saint of the free market? Subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast Links: Adam Smith in Beijing: Lineages of the 21st Century, Giovanni Arrighi, Verso (2008) The Left Hemisphere: Mapping Critical Theory Today, Razmig Keucheyan, Verso (2010)

On Argentina's historic election. Historian of populism and anti-populism Ernesto Seman tells us what is happening in Argentina amidst severe economic crisis. The radical libertarian madman Javier Milei failed to win, and a second-round runoff will be needed, but politics has changed irreparably. The establishment right has been outflanked, while the left-populism of 'Kirchnerismo' is in crisis. We discuss: What is 'Peronism' and how does it occupy so much political space? How does Milei appeal to informal workers using market ideology? What is distinct about Latin American populism? How is anti-populism used to denigrate the masses? What is the role of nostalgia for the golden age in Argentina? Reading: In Chile and Argentina, anti-populist politics is failing, Ernesto Seman, FT Breve historia del antipopulismo (Brief History of Antipopulism), Ernesto Seman Ambassadors of the Working Class, Ernesto Seman Javier Milei is not done yet, Alex Hochuli, Unherd Javier Milei is not a South American Trump, Alex Hochuli, Unherd Links: /367/ Don’t Pay Them Back ft. Jerome Roos /189/ Pink Tide Paradoxes ft. Fabio Luis /93/ Hot Chile and Other Neoliberal Failures ft. Pablo Pryluka

On violence and the lack of political resolution. Regular guest Alex Gourevitch joins us to discuss why the Israel/Palestine conflict is so intractable – and why it draws so much attention. Alex then explains why, lamentably, there is no side worth choosing. We then delve into various key points: why Hamas was becoming irrelevant and how the 7 October attack was an attempt to combat that; why violence is necessary but the Palestinians are in a catch-22; how the West is implicated in the violence and callousness on show; why the Palestinians are the most oppressed and forgotten people; why Hamas is not an anticolonial freedom struggle; and what is the right way to compare this to Ukraine. Links: No end in sight: Israel’s search for a Gaza strategy, Lawrence Freedman, FT (attached) The House of Zion, Perry Anderson, NLR Whither Palestine, David Polansky, Strange Frequencies

On the war on disinformation and the war in Gaza. Jacob Siegel, senior editor at Tablet, joins us to talk about Hamas's attack on Israel and Israel's assault on Gaza. We also discuss how the US crusade against 'disinformation' has led it to apply counterinsurgency tactics to its own citizens. Why did Hamas attack when it did? Has it been successful in stopping Israeli-Saudi rapprochement? How much will this change Israeli society? And what does Israel want to achieve in bombing - and soon invading - Gaza? Meanwhile, how has domestic politics become war? The state has meshed with corporate power to create an almighty surveillance apparatus. How can we start dismantling it? And how do we escape the postmodern hall of mirrors in which high diplomacy and low culture-war merge, in which domestic and international, and peace and war, all blur into each other? Links: On disinformation: A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century, Jacob Siegel, Tablet A trap has been set for Israel, Jacob Siegel, Unherd End US Aid to Israel, Jacob Siegel & Liel Leibovitz, Tablet On data: The Nanny vs. The Nanny State, Jacob Siegel & John Robb, Tablet Manifesto Podcast, Jacob Siegel & Phil Klay

On sovereign debt and taking back control. The leading candidate in Argentina's election this month wants to avoid defaulting on the country's debt at all costs. But back in 2001, after a mass revolt, Argentina reneged on its debts – one of the very rare cases over the past 70 years of unilateral default. Why are nations so eager to pay back creditors nowadays, especially when it means endless austerity and little prospect of economic development? We talk to scholar Jerome Roos about his book, Why Not Default? and discuss a range of cases: Mexico, Greece, Zambia, Sri Lanka, Ghana - and of course Argentina. We find that the old free market system used to accept that reneging on your debts was a risk creditors had to take. No longer: transnational institutions make sure that creditors get paid every time. How might countries free themselves from international financial dictatorship? For part two of the interview and the After Party, subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast Links: Why Not Default?: The Political Economy of Sovereign Debt, Jerome Roos Memoria del saqueo (Social Genocide), film on 2001 debt crisis and uprising in Argentina (many versions available online) /83/ Now It’s Syrizous (episode on Syriza's defeat in Greece) The World in One Country: Greece, Jonas Kyratzes (part of ep.200)

On polycrisis. [Patreon Tier II and III Exclusive - subscribe at patreon.com/bungacast] We reflect back on Jurgen Habermas' Legitimation Crisis as a whole, having gone through it section by section in previous episodes, before exploring what the idea of 'polycrisis' is about. Everyone from Adam Tooze to the FT to the World Economic Forum think we're in a polycrisis. How does this notion compare to Habermas' understanding of crisis? We also explore some related themes: cynical ideology and how it deflects criticism; whether we are more or less individualised today, and how you can have less collectivism and less individualism at the same time; and the difference between crisis and emergency. Links: Why the West's elites invented a permacrisis, Thomas Fazi, Unherd Welcome to the world of the polycrisis, Adam Tooze, FT Year in a word: Polycrisis, Jonathan Derbyshire, FT On the crisis of crisis: /327/ Capitalism on Edge ft. Albena Azmanova On the structural reasons why the regime survives: /246/ Why Isn’t There Revolution? ft. Vivek Chibber

On the end of politics. Is the craziness of the past years, since 2016, ebbing away? Is the establishment back in charge? Journalist Ryan Zickgraf joins us to argue that, yes, the period of 'hyperpolitics' has passed. Trump has lost his edge, BLM has imploded, boring Biden rules, the Proud Boys are nowhere to be seen. Fewer protests, fewer small campaign donations, fewer news articles shared. What is the implication of this? It seems that people are exhausted by the politicisation of everything. The upsurge in engagement in formal politics may be dwindling. But the culture wars are as hot as ever. And the venues for 'escape' from politics are more politicised than ever. Accelerated social decline means we aren't exactly going back to the 1990s, but is history over all over again? Readings: America's Politics of Nothing, Ryan Zickgraf, Compact After Anti-Politics: The Apeiron, Alex Hochuli, Sublation Everything is Hyperpolitical, Anton Jäger, The Point /361/ A Nightmare on the Brains of the Living ft. Benjamin Studebaker

On US politics being stuck. [This was originally a subscriber exclusive. Sign up now at patreon.com/bungacast] We talk to political theorist Benjamin Studebaker about his new book, The Chronic Crisis of American Democracy: The Way is Shut. Studebaker holds that hope is a problem because it's used by professionals to keep people engaged in a system that simply doesn't deliver. Hence the culture wars and the focus on various 'vices'. How are both left and right complicit in this situation? What's the solution? Are we dependent on oligarchs going rogue to shake the system? Do we need to hit rock bottom to rekindle our political imaginations?