Bloomberg Hot Pursuit!

Tom Wagner of Knighthead Capital joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss Singer, Revology and Formula 1. Plus, his take on the growth potential of endurance racing and the future of EVs and autonomous driving. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah and Matt discuss dueling new Corvettes - the Z06 and the e-Ray hybrid. Matt thinks they're supercars; Hannah disagrees. Plus, Volkswagen AG invests $5 billion in Rivian and Matt gets stranded - with a baby - in the Hummer EV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss the all-new $4.1 million Bugatti Tourbillion hypercar, driving the 2025 BMW Z4, and the latest edition of General Motor's Hummer EV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ford CEO Jim Farley joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss China, EVs, Formula 1, the Mustang, the Raptor and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

McLaren Racing Chief Executive Officer Zak Brown joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss McLaren's ascendance this season in Formula 1, why Indy Car could use some tips from Liberty Media to help it expand, and the 'toxic' atmosphere at Red Bull. Plus, Brown suggests the Monaco Grand Prix could go away and F1 would be just fine without it, and Hannah and Matt discuss the Mercedes-Benz EQE 500 electric SUV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss the pros and cons of the new hybrid Porsche 911 GTS - in a shocking turn of events, it is not offered with a manual transmission. Then they dissect the exciting final moments of the Indy500 and whether F1 should end the Monaco Grand Prix (there are rumors it might). Plus, Hannah fills us in about the BMW V-8 concept car and motorcycle at the Villa d'Este Concours in Lake Como, Italy. And there's some talk about the new Cadillac Optiq and Jeep Wagoneer S electric SUVs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

British pro-driver Katherine Legge joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about her upcoming race this weekend, the Indianapolis 500. Plus, she discusses her near-crash in Indy500 qualifying rounds earlier this week, her mixed feelings about women-only racing series like the F1 Academy, and her thoughts on why more women need to lift weights and bulk up to be better drivers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller welcome Aston Martin expert Steve Serio to the podcast to talk about his 20-plus years selling the prestigious British brand - and where he sees it going in the future. Plus, Hannah and Matt compare notes on the DB12 Volante, the DBX SUV, and the new $191,000 Vantage. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller dissect Ferrari’s new 12-cylinder world debut cars, plus the Formula 1 Grand Prix in Miami and Matt’s skepticism that a V6 hybrid could be good - even if it is the Ferrari 296 GTS. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Lamborghini CEO Stephan Winkelmann joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss the future of the Italian automaker, especially when (and if) it comes to EVs. Plus, his keys to success navigating working with some of the industry's toughest bosses at Volkswagen and Fiat. Then, Hannah talks about the Aston Martin Vantage in Spain and Matt gets stranded - twice! - taking his motorbikes out for the first ride this season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller talk about the launch of the electric Mercedes-Benz G Wagon in LA and Lamborghini's new Urus Hybrid SUV. Plus, Tyler Epp, the head of the F1 Miami Grand Prix, joins to share the best ways to see and experience the race in May, and his take on auto racing in America. And Matt comes to tears over the Lamborghini Huracan Sterrato. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Supercar maker John Hennessey joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about what it takes to set world speed records - and he hints at plans to put one of his million-dollar, Texas-built supercars on Germany's infamous Nürburgring Nordschleife. Plus, Hennessey is considering building a restomod vehicle (Hennessey Porsche, anyone?) and going for a new world top-speed record that could hit 500km/hour. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ducati CEO Claudio Domenicali joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about electric motorcycles, the secret to his longevity as a power-player in the Motor Valley of Italy, and the motorcycle-maker's total dominance in Moto GP. Will the racing series could ever be like F1, now that Liberty Media owns part of it? Plus Hannah has a story about a popular vintage Ferrari mechanic that has been arrested on felony theft and fraud charges - and has a long rap sheet to boot. And, more about the Ford F-250 King Ranch Diesel V8 and how to do Formula 1 on a budget. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Car broker to the world's billionaires Steve Serio joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller for a wide-ranging discussion of all things Aston Martin, Bentley, BMW, Porsche and Mercedes - and which five classic cars he'd trust alone on a desert island. Plus, there's talk of a Tesla Cyberbeast on the prowl, an alien McLaren, a new auction house, and BMW's latest electric concept. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guenther Steiner joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss life after running Haas Formula 1 racing - and to talk about his new position as the ambassador for the 2024 F1 Miami Grand Prix. Plus, he discusses his thoughts on Christian Horner's woes and whether there will ever be a woman F1 champion. Then, Hannah and Matt discuss the Cadillac Lyriq, Mercedes-Benz E Class, and McLaren 750S Spider. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Actress, director, producer and author Lake Bell joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about growing up the daughter of a car guy - who also happened to own Virginia International Raceway. Plus, they discuss Lake's current obsession (her name is Janet) and whether or not EVs should have a synthetic sound.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss SBX Cars, a new online car auction platform from mega-influencer Supercar Blondie that is trying to take over the market for multi-million-dollar hypercars. Then, Hannah gives us an update on Saudi Arabia and her love of the Mercedes-AMG G63 and its metallic olive paint job and monobloc wheels, while Matt does a deep dive into a Ford F-250 with 1,200 pound-feet of torque. Plus, a look at Bentley's complicated history with Rolls-Royce and whether we want to buy a late-model Bentley at all.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Elliott joins Matt Miller from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where she's part of a Bloomberg conference ahead of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. (No Teslas here!) Matt dissects his Turo rental in Colorado, and Hannah updates us on how the grudge match of auctions went in Florida. Plus, talk about the 2024 Dodge Charger, which comes WITHOUT a V8. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah and Matt welcome truck-and off-road expert and TFL podcast host Roman Mica on the show. Plus, they talk about the mysterious Ineos Grenadier, electric pickups - do they have a future? - and the new Ford Bronco versus the Land Rover Defender. You can listen to the TFL podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tfl-car-chat/id1502472591See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller talk about driving the Tesla Cybertruck in Los Angeles, plus Matt's recent week with the Kia EV9 SUV - can it stand up to the big SUVs from Land Rover, BMW and Rivian? Then, it's a quick turn at the track with the all-new McLaren 750S and a deep-dive into a grudge-match over blue-chip cars down at Amelia Island and in Miami, Florida, next month. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bring a Trailer founder Randy Nonnenberg joins Hannah and Matt to talk about how he grew his online auction platform from a personal blog into $1.4 billion in sales last year - and what cars are going big in 2024. Plus, Hannah talks about buying a 1969 Corvette from a swap meet, and Matt finally finds a family-hauler he can stomach. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

SEMA President and CEO Mike Spagnola joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss the $337 billion automotive aftermarket industry and the SEMA show, the world’s largest annual gathering of small businesses that happens each year in Las Vegas. A lifelong car lover, Spagnola spends much of his time in Washington D.C. working to maintain the vehicle owner rights increasingly scrutinized at state and federal levels. Plus, Lewis Hamilton Formula One move to Ferrari, Porsche's new Taycan EV, and Matt's obsession with Cadillac's brutal Blackwing sedans. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Hannah and Matt discuss the glamorous Retromobile 2024 in Paris - it's a classic car show where after-market companies, collectors, enthusiasts, restorers and prestigious brands like Bizzarrini and RUF converge to network and show off their latest projects and finds. Our duo discuss RM Sotheby's auction held this week in Paris, too, under the Louvre, where a yellow Ferrari 250 GTO sold for roughly $11 million - and unique Porsche 911 GT2 failed to sell at all. Then, Matt asks for advice about finding a fun big SUV - but with a V8 engine. He asks, Is it a risk to buy a Land Rover? Is a Mercedes-Benz a safer bet? Time will tell. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller welcome champion off-road racer Emily Miller to the show to discuss her life and work in the drivers seat at the world's most grueling races: the Baja 1000, King of the Hammers, and the Gazelle Rally in Morocco, to name a few. And they discuss what it takes to become a great off-road driver. They also discuss Porsche's first electric Macan SUV and Matt's surprising love of the Jaguar F-Pace SVR. Don’t forget to email us questions and comments at [email protected] Follow us on Instagram at: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find us on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and Bloomberg TV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller talk about the crazy rock-crawling tribes that love the slow-moving, super expensive vehicles Ford and Porsche are making - and how Lamborghini is cashing in on the off-road scene, too. Then, Matt talks about a possible sleeper hit, the rare BMW M4 GTS, and why it’s so difficult to drive and maintain (distilled water, anyone?). Plus, Hannah suggests why more automotive brands should enter into public races where they can put their cars to the test. Don’t forget to email us questions and comments at [email protected] Follow us on Instagram at: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find us on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and Bloomberg TV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Hannah and Matt discuss the lack of demand for electric vehicles in the United States - is this the end of EVs after all? They also talk about how modern classics from Ferrari, Porsche and even Ford might gain some value in the next year. Plus, Matt is reminded of Tawny Kitaen in that cool Whitesnake video with the Jaguars, and why Hannah gets itchy if she goes more than a week without driving the old Rolls-Royce. Do you have a question, idea or topic we should discuss? Email us at [email protected]. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This time Hannah and Matt talk about the Mercedes-Benz sports car that Lady Diana loved–and when she drove one it caused a national scandal: The 90s-era Mercedes SL Class, aka the R129. The modern classic roadster is coming up in value and prominence. Then they discuss the car events you MUST do in 2024, from King of the Hammers and F1 in Las Vegas to Pike’s Peak Hill Climb in Colorado and Goodwood in England. And Matt tells us why he loves the enormous Chevrolet Silverado 2500 ZR2 so much - even though there’s only one diesel fuel pump in all of Manhattan. Do you have a question for us? Or an idea for a topic we should discuss? Email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram at: @HannahElliottxo@mattmiller1973Find us on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and Bloomberg TV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Hannah and Matt talk about the cars and trucks they are most excited to drive next year. Corvette, Ram, Porsche and Polestar, and a few others, all make an appearance. Plus, Bloomberg Intelligence Automotive Industry Analyst Kevin Tynan joins to discuss Ford’s recent title of 42 years selling the most popular vehicle in America. Matt thinks General Motors might beg to differ…. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Hannah and Matt give us their winners and losers of 2023. Porsche, Lucid, Rolls-Royce and even Kia make an appearance. Plus, Matt gets hot about hybrids and Hannah defends the Ferrari Purosangue SUV. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Hannah and Matt talk about test-driving the new Porsche 911 S/T. Plus, they discuss the fallout from Tesla's autopilot recall. Also, listen for news on the Chinese auto empire that's hitting a roadblock when it comes to international expansion. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Hannah and Matt discuss the best concept cars of 2023 (hint: Porsche, Mercedes-Benz and Audi had some good ones). They also examine how the Tesla Cybertruck has fared from concept to production. Plus, they talk about the new cars coming in 2024 they’re most excited to drive - the Cadillac Escalade IQ is one of them. And they ponder, can electric cars have a soul? Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Matt and Hannah run down the most expensive cars sold this year and why a $11 million Bugatti Chiron may have been a good deal. Then, they discuss Horatio Pagani's recent interview with Bloomberg in Hong Kong, and what the Chinese market means for electric cars and supercars. Plus, Matt and Hannah have strong feelings about the Cybertrucks being delivered in Texas this week - and they definitely disagree on whether Tesla’s stainless-steel pickup will be a hit. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Matt is out while his wife is having a baby, so Barry Ritholtz joins Hannah to discuss Aston Martin owner Lawrence Stroll’s decision to sell a minority stake in his F1 team–with a $1.2 billion valuation, does this mean Stroll is thinking of selling more? Hannah reports back on the racing incident and the glamor after spending four days at the closely watched F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix. Then we address Michael Mann’s new film, Ferrari, which Hannah suggests is worth watching just for Penelope Cruz. (The CGI effects were not great.) Plus, Barry talks about the Mercedes-Benz CLA AMG he’ll drive over the holiday, while Hannah dissects the 2024 Audi SQ8 eTron, a new $90,000 luxury electric SUV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Barry Ritholtz joins Hannah and Matt for a conversation about Toyota’s Camry hybrid news, and whether it spells the end of EVs. Then, we discuss how macro changes in the economy and the end of the YOLO culture may be cooling appetites for things like $60 million Ferraris and expensive hospitality packages at the upcoming Formula 1 Las Vegas Grand Prix. Plus, a discussion about Audi’s new electric SUV, the $90,000 SQ8 eTron, and Matt’s current fascination with Kia. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Hannah and Matt talk about the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO going to auction November 13 for an estimated $60 million. With Ferrari sales staying strong, even though the collectible market is cooling, will it beat the record as the most expensive Ferrari ever sold? For that matter, are classic cars even worth the trouble? (Hannah had a breakdown this week on Sunset Boulevard.) Plus, Rimac has announced a crazy new Guinness World Record--its $2.5 million Nevera electric hypercar drove more than 171mph *in reverse*. And Ducati CEO Jason Chinook joins the conversation to discuss the prospects of electric motorcycles and Matt's obsession with the new, high-powered and ultra-light single-cylinder Supermono. Maybe obsession isn't always a bad thing. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Hannah and Matt talk Formula 1: The winners, the crashes, and the upcoming race in Las Vegas that will see $15,000 dinners and exclusive concerts at the $2.3 billion Sphere. (Matt definitely does not want to see U2 there, or Kylie Minogue). Then, it’s a look at Ford’s new adventure driving trips for Bronco lovers and Bill Ford’s comments that EVs are growing even more political. Plus, Hannah details the highs and lows of the 644-horsepower BMW XM hybrid and Matt declares his love for the 710-horsepower Dodge Durango Hellcat. Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Hannah fights LA's worst traffic using the Mercedes-Benz Level 3 Drive Pilot system that beat Tesla to advanced hands-free driving. Matt drives the Nissan Z Nismo Edition around Manhattan but he barely fits inside the cabin, and he really needs a manual gearshift. Then, Hannah and Matt discuss the merits of electric sedans like the BMW i7 and Porsche Taycan--can you cross-shop those against a Volvo XC90? Plus, Matt wants a Porsche 911 S/T or a Porsche 911 R, but Hannah says the S/T is a cash grab and the R is wildly expensive even if you can find a used one. And maybe the Porsche 911 Carrera T is better pound for pound, anyway? Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. FULL TRANSCRIPT: I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. This is hot pursuit. All right. Coming up on the podcast, we're gonna talk about a self driving Mercedes, the new drive pilot technology. Hannah tested it out. Have they beaten Tesla to the punch. We're also going to talk about the BMW I seven. This is the fully electric version of their seven series, their flagship executive limousine. Hannah's driving it this week. I have driven it before and it gave me ideas for the next car that I need. Plus, we'll talk about Porscha. They came out with earnings that were obviously good because they're Porsche. I'm also driving a much cheaper I guess caman competitor in a way that we'll talk about, and they could electrify them a con. I want an ST. I tried to get a nine to eleven R. There's so much to talk about in terms of Porsche. But hey, let's start with the Mercedes Drive Pilot, which is their level three autonomous driving system. Tell us about it. Yeah, I have to say this is the big deal because Tesla has been talking about their full self driving for years and they do sell something that they're calling full self driving FSD, but it actually requires a bit of hands on the wheel and attention on the road. So Mercedes swoops in with something they're calling drive Pilot, which is level three driving, which does not require your hands on the wheel ever, and doesn't require your eyes on the road. So literally you can sit back and read a book, or watch a video, or have video conference calls, or watch a movie play on your phone. So it is kind of a big deal. There are limitations that we can talk about, but as somebody who's not especially excited about the idea of self driving in general, I have to say it did kind of win me over. I was pretty impressed. Yeah, so let's talk first about the benefits of self driving technology before we get into the limitations on the Mercedes system, and also the cost, which I think is interesting. You live in one of the most congested places on the planet, so for you it can actually like make your life better. Yeah, that's really true. And I actually when I tested it, it was on the Tin which basically goes, you know, from downtown out to the ocean, and I used to drive that way every day to work. It is some of the most horrible traffic in town. And the benefit was that I was in my car, but it felt like I had a driver, and that was a huge thing for me. I mean, the idea of having a driver is such a great luxury, and this technology, this drive pilot, really did make it feel like that. It drives the car for you. It only drives the car for you on highways that have two lanes or more and that have a solid barrier down the center. So this is already getting into some of the imitations. But the benefit is I got a lot of things done on my way to work, like answering emails, I was looking at videos, I was playing on Instagram. That's a huge benefit. And in a more general sense, I was a lot less peeved and annoyed by the time I got to the office, having not have had to fight with you know, people that I think are terrible drivers. I think we can agree that Prius drivers are the worst. I did not have to fight these people on my way into the office, and that was a huge benefit because the car took care of it. Yeah. So I mean for me, for my commute, I drive into Manhattan from Scarsdale every day. It's an hour in the morning, really and an hour on the way back. And I like to pretend that I can drive a lot myself, but the truth is I'm mostly in bumper to bumper traffic, and it would be awesome if I could do work, you know, while while I was driving. The problem is I'm sometimes slowed to a halt, like when I'm heading on, for example, to Henry Hudson. But also there are times when I'm doing sixty you know. It's like back and forth, back and forth. And one of the main limitations of this system I know from reading your story on the Bloomberg Terminal, is that it doesn't work above forty miles an hour. So I just can't imagine how it would work for me, because it would be awesome for a few minutes and then all of a sudden, what it just stops working. Yeah, actually, yes, that's exactly right. It is awesome. And then if you need to s

On the first episode of Hot Pursuit!, Hannah and Matt discuss Hannah's trip to Austria to be the first journalist to drive the electric Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon. Can it even come close to comparing to the gas-powered G that has existed since 1979? Then, it's a look at BMW's polarizing XM hybrid, its most powerful SUV but not its best--we'll tell you why. Meanwhile, Matt is driving over New York City curbs in another expensive V8 SUV this week, the Jeep 392 Rubicon, and Hannah has a few thoughts about it from that time in Moab. Plus, Matt just bought a Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack Widebody - but how fast is it really? Follow Hannah and Matt on Instagram: @HannahElliottxo @mattmiller1973 Find more on Bloomberg.com, Bloomberg Radio and YouTube. FULL TRANSCRIPT: Hi. I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller, and this is Hot Pursuit. All right, welcome to the first episode of our new podcast. Hannah Elliott from Bloomberg Pursuits and me Matt Miller from Bloomberg Television. We're going to walk you through everything that's hot in the world of autos and motorcycles. I point out, Hannah, because Ducati has released a brand new version of the Multi Strata. This is the V four version. It's called the RS. And the really cool thing about this bike, and then we'll get back to cars, is that it has the Desmo dramatic valve operation. Once again, they've gone away from that to reduce, you know, the amount of mechanical work that you had to do, the amount of upkeep you had to do, and now they've gone back just for this one version. So I'm pretty pumped about that. That's cool. It all sounds very complicated. I'm more scrambler girl myself or a dirt by I love a dirt bike. But of course we're focused mainly on cars, and you have been very much focused on the Mercedes g Wagon. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about a trip that you recently took to Austria to test out a new version of that. We're also going to talk about a couple of the vehicles that we're driving, which I think people might cross shop with a G Wagon, you know, wealthy people that are looking for some kind of big, gigantic suv that has a lot of power behind it. And then we're going to talk about the new car that I recently bought, which maybe is kind of the other end of the spectrum. It wasn't very expensive, it's not an suv and it's like a dinosaur. So we'll talk about my Dodge Challenger RT scatpack wide body. Unfortunate name notwithstanding, I have to say every time when we say that name, I pringe. I think of like Dean Martin and you know Frank Sinatra. Yeah, yeah, Shahinatra was out there in a mopar type car and I don't know the history, but I think that's why they called it that. Anyway, let's kick it off with the G Wagon. So this is I think one of the coolest vehicles in automotive history. And I would say you probably agree because you're a big fan. Tell us about what you did over the weekend, so I have to say I felt pretty lucky. I was the first non Mercedes Benz employee and first American to drive the electric G Wagon, which is really exciting because we've been hearing about this since twenty eighteen when Arnold Schwarzenegger said he wanted one and Mercedes said, okay, we'll make it. Basically, this was back at the G Wagon launch in Detroit, which Matt, I think you'll remember, well, yes, but yeah, all of that to say, I went to go drive it in Austria on the Shekel Mountain also pronounced she Shekel if you want to that tea in there. It's a proven ground in Austria where Mercedes has all of their G Wagons, and I went up there to do some driving in the electric g This was a pre production electric G Wagon, and I have to say it was pretty fun. That's so cool. So I bought back a couple of years ago when I was living in Berlin the new generation of the G Wagon and right inside the door you get a little badge on all of the new G's that says something like tested on the stuckle or proven on the stuckle Jeckel proof, Yes, exactly something like that. So for g Wagon owners, the place is magical and maybe mysterious because it's in Grots and like hardly anybody ever goes there. But basically this is where Magna Steyer makes the g Wagon right there. They're not made by Mercedes in house. Yes, this is a little known fact. So the company was formerly called Poop. Now it's called Magnet. It's a bigger corporation that bought it out, but same company, same location, and it's kind of a mecha for g Wagon owners to go there. There is a factory, there's an experience center which is right by the airport, and it's it is an iconic vehicle. I mean, how many car models can you say I've been made without interruption since the seventies. I mean, it's pretty cool. I have to say, no, it's awesome, and it's in super high demand, even though it's so dang expensive, right, I mean when I bought mine, they were like one twenty five to start and there was a two year waiting list. I don't think the waiting list has come down, it's gone the other direction, an