BiggerPockets Money Podcast

“Hustle culture” has been a term for the past decade or so. It somehow became a badge of honor to prove that you’re working the hardest, longest, and most stressful job around. You can handle it, you’re making money, putting in the hours, but what do you have left at the end of the day? This constant grind is what Mindy likes to call the “death race to FI” due to its unnecessary harshness on your free time, relationships, and mental health. Pete McPherson foresaw this “hustle culture” taking over his life when he quit his sixty-hour week accounting job and decided to start his own business. This wasn’t the first, or second, or fiftieth time Pete had started a business, and he was driven to never set foot in an office again. He wasn’t making phenomenal money the first year, but he made enough to provide for his family, and that was enough for him. Mindy and guest host Sarah Putt from OT 4 Lyfe talk with Pete about the rarely discussed downsides of chasing early retirement and financial independence. Make no mistake, even if you decided to work twenty hours a week, like Pete, you can still make plenty of money all while being able to watch your favorite movies in the middle of the day or spend time with your kids! In This Episode We Cover The detriment of “hustle culture” and why working hard doesn’t mean burning yourself out The importance of having an available safety reserve in case you get let go from a job Jumping into entrepreneurship and developing the grind to make it work Learning from your mistakes and seeing every failure as a lesson Picking your “good enough” number and living life on your terms Why time freedom is the ultimate goal of FI, not exorbitant wealth And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emergency funds, frugal experiments, free photons, and “thoughtful spending” were just a few things that came to light during Carl and Mindy Jensen’s January 2022 budget recap. If you didn’t know already, Mindy has been publicly tracking her expenses and budgeting for BiggerPockets Money listeners (and the world) to see. But of course, as soon as Mindy shared her public budget, things started to go awry. Nothing says “let’s start the month off right” like car repairs, furnace replacements, and sky-high gas prices. But, Mindy isn’t a quitter! Even with some big emergency expenses, she and Carl have managed to stay within budget for most of their costly categories in spite of life's fun financial curveballs. Carl and Mindy discuss their January “frugal experiment” including hotels and air fryers, how “dry January” became “moist January”, and why this financial powerhouse has opted out of the traditional emergency fund. If you’re starting this year with a few budget busters like Carl and Mindy, don’t let it keep you from hitting your overall 2022 spending goals. Track it, stick with it, and shoot for FI! In This Episode We Cover How expense tracking inadvertently stops you from overspending Using money in the most efficient way possible so you can increase your “thoughtful spending” Budgeting wins (and challenges) that Mindy and Carl faced this January Preparing from unexpected budget busters and whether or not an emergency fund is necessary How to allocate large bills throughout the year so you don’t go over budget Splurging on things you truly enjoy while keeping everyday costs as simplistic as possible And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lifestyle creep, budget hesitancy, and cash scarcity are problems you’d likely hear from someone just getting into the realm of financial independence/literacy. But, funnily enough, these wealth woes aren’t coming from newbies—they’re coming from two asset-stacking veterans, Mindy Jensen and David Pere from The Military Millionaire Podcast. While on the outside David and Mindy may look like squeaky clean financial figures, they’ve realized recently that they have to tighten up their systems to maximize wealth. Mindy has seen a slow and steady lifestyle creep, and although her income can support her, she still wants to have a strong sense of strategy when it comes to budgeting and expense tracking. David has tried time and time again to budget, but it’s never really gone to plan. He also is feeling a bit stressed at times due to his “cash poor, asset rich” lifestyle that has allowed him to build so much wealth. Our two hosts serve as financial therapists for one another other in this episode as they dive deep into how each other can re-strategize their financial situations. Even the gurus don’t always get it right! In This Episode We Cover How to turn budget hesitancy into expense-tracking mastery Stocking up your emergency reserve so you (and your business) can survive life’s hiccups Entrepreneur income and why you should go lean on your business spending, without compromising quality Lifestyle/income creep and how to fight it so you can save and invest more Why everyone (even our money gurus) make mistakes from time to time And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rental properties can be a phenomenal second source of income for the majority of us who work at regular jobs. One or two rental property purchases every year or so can slowly, but surely, build a strong foundation for financial independence, sometimes within only a few years. Today’s guest Connor has taken this approach to wealth building and now sits on six rental units, splitting some of the profits with his partners. Connor runs a lot of the operation for these rental properties. He has a background in construction management, making him an integral piece of any future BRRRR, flip, or rehab project he and his partners decide to take on. But, could these real estate partnerships be slowing down his personal wealth growth? And if so, how does he mitigate the risk of being an independent investor in a cash-intensive business? Aside from his real estate portfolio, Connor also wants to simplify his personal portfolio, plan for future baby expenses, maximize his retirement, and get a better handle on his financial situation in total. Scott and Mindy leave Connor with some clear action items that may help him achieve financial freedom in his five to seven-year time horizon! In This Episode We Cover Real estate partnerships and establishing the value that you bring to them Generating more income (and reducing expenses) through live in flips and house hacking Land contracts and seller financing on rental properties that allow you to scale faster Student loan repayment, deferral, and when you should plan on starting up your payments again Shopping for a baby as frugally as you can so you can invest for their future And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The poverty cycle is a hard one to break out of. For some people, it is near impossible to climb yourself out of the hole that society, family, or unfortunate circumstances have placed you in. But sometimes, through sheer willpower alone, those who break through can crush this cycle and bring their families up with them. Someone who’s done this (and much more), is Dr. David L. Rhoiney from surgiFI. Dr. David is a renowned “robot surgeon”, operating on patients using the finest precision that modern technology has to offer. He holds two degrees, has two homes, and invests heavily. You’re probably assuming he was raised in a family that taught him the worth of hard work, education, and investing early. You wouldn’t be more wrong. Dr. David’s childhood consisted of a combination of living in cars, homeless shelters, sleeping on friend’s couches, and surviving completely on the edge. After being accepted into the US Naval Academy, he knew that he had to do everything he could to never return to that life. He has been told “no” thousands of times, that he wasn’t good enough, didn’t look the part, or simply that he wasn’t worth it. He proved every doubter wrong and has had the last laugh as he and his family now are on the path to a phenomenal financial future. In This Episode We Cover Growing up and poverty and using it as fuel to strive for something greater Why you should always choose the “hard path” and pursue something others would fear Medical student loans and going debt-free through intelligent financial decisions House hacking and using rental properties to propel your net worth higher Affordable housing and what real estate investors can do to help those in need Giving yourself no other choice but to succeed, even when all bets are against you And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ahh, the age-old question: pay off your mortgage early or invest? It’s no wonder so many members of the financial independence community have strong feelings about one or the other. With a paid-off mortgage, you’re less in debt, with more free cash to invest or spend on things you love doing. But, there’s another side to that cash flow coin. If you’re paying off your mortgage early, you’ll have less money to invest, leaving you with less compound interest. If you’ve been asking for someone to answer this question for you, be sure to thank today’s guest, Javier. He’s been doing a phenomenal job paying down his mortgage as quickly as he can, especially at such a young age. Javier has a respectable net worth and works not only at his W2 but also as a real estate agent on the side. Javier is struggling to find where to best put his extra $1,300/month once he pays off his primary residence. And while this is a BiggerPockets Podcast episode, Scott and Mindy do not immediately vouch for real estate investing. Instead, they take a look at his overall risk tolerance, personal finance situation, and work backwards from his goals to find what he really wants out of early retirement, instead of just grasping for cash. In This Episode We Cover Setting up your “bare-bones emergency fund” so you can invest with confidence Whether or not you should pay off your mortgage early When the right time to leave your W2 job is and pursue your side income streams How to pay for healthcare when you’re self-employed or without work subsidies How much to allocate towards taxes per month as a self-employed individual When real estate investing does and does not make sense for your lifestyle And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You Need a Budget is the expense tracker/budgeter that requires no introduction…but we’ll give it one anyways! In 2004, Jesse Mecham launched this ground-breaking software, allowing money masters and novices alike to easily track their money and plan for a financially stress-free future. Jesse may have been the perfect person to build a product like this—he started tracking his expenses at age sixteen for fun! As Jesse grew older, he continued to track his expenses regularly, allowing him to have a tight hold on his money and fight back the urge to go into debt. When his wife decided to take a backseat on working and have children, Jesse started to work harder at converting YNAB from a simple spreadsheet to a full-blown business. He was so conservative that three years into the business when he was making twice as much as his accountant salary, he continued to reinvest almost every cent of profit so he could have a strong financial foundation behind him. Now, some eighteen years after launching, Jesse still holds the principles that he started YNAB with. He lives a simple lifestyle, enjoying “parlor time” with his seven children, keeping a strong emergency fund, and investing in a very, very conservative manner. Take it from someone like Jesse who has “made it”—budgeting can change your life. In This Episode We Cover Why budgeting and expense tracking are important at an early age How simple expense tracking allows you to save and invest more while starving off debt The four money rules that will change the way you think about your finances Where to keep the money that you’re saving for emergencies, down payments, and more How to know it’s the right time to quit your job and pursue your passions Running your real estate business through YNAB’s intuitive budgeting Why Jesse refuses to invest in high-risk assets while building his business And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Financial flexibility is one of the hidden stages along the path to financial independence. When you hit financial flexibility, you have far more choices than you did before. You can invest more, spend more, save more, and work less if you choose to do so. But, this type of lifestyle can only be achieved by being mindful and proactive about where your money is going, as today’s guest Kevin, knows very well. Kevin’s story was posted on the BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group, where he relived the horror of his credit card being declined at his girlfriend’s birthday dinner. This struck Kevin, since he made a decent salary and was relatively responsible with his money. He contributed to retirement accounts and kept a lean emergency fund, so where was all his money going? In today’s discovery, Scott and Mindy walk Kevin through which parts of his budget need a tune-up, and whether or not aggressive loan paydown is worth it for optimal financial flexibility. So where can you tweak your budget to maximize flexibility while minimizing credit-card-induced stress? In This Episode We Cover How to pay off bad debt fast and work your way to debt-free status Achieving “financial flexibility” before financial independence and the steps to get there Tracking your expenses and budgeting for spending (every single month!) How to cut food and eating out spending so your stomach and wallet stay happy What to do with extra income once you’ve paid off all your debt The importance of a strong emergency fund and always having a safety reserve And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s guest, Jennifer Grimson, is a prime example that every problem has a solution. Jennifer has always been a hard worker so she had no problem working through college as she aspired to be a foreign service officer, but her life took a turn when she fell in love and married her (now) ex-husband. Her dynamic with money completely changed as he spent money frivolously while she spent conservatively. When things ended poorly 8 years later he sued her 25 times, not including when he sued her mother and brother, and left her with $500,000 worth of attorney fees. At this point, she was left with nothing and had two children to raise on her own. While most would be completely devastated, Jennifer focused on finding a way out. Jennifer had never been scared of a little hard work so she found a job with a steady paycheck and filed for bankruptcy to help with her attorney fees. She continued to file for bankruptcy and start from scratch until she could build herself back up financially. She was then able to rebuild her credit through various methods and gain financial autonomy. Her overall goal was to experience financial peace— but she didn’t stop there. She started building small pockets of wealth and always had at least three streams of income at all times. Once Jennifer found out about short-term rentals, she saw an opportunity and started buying houses to convert into Airbnb properties and turn a profit. After 4 years she created an astounding $1.4 million in income-producing assets! In This Episode We Cover How to properly intertwine money and romantic relationships (and how to protect your personal wealth) Filing for bankruptcy and how it can be your saving grace from future lawsuits Borrowing against a 401k and investing with retirement funds Rebuilding your credit from scratch (and even bankruptcy!) Short term rentals, passive investments, buying land and other ways to build long-lasting wealth Cost Segregation and how to greatly reduce your tax burden And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Expats and rental portfolios go together like peanut butter and jelly. It’s no surprise that a fair amount of retired globetrotters owe their freedom to real estate investing. While many real estate investors are looking to retire themselves and their families in the US, today’s guest Paul has other plans. Paul thoroughly enjoys his full-time job in Utah. He gets paid well, has access to some phenomenal benefits, and isn’t planning on quitting anytime soon. That being said, Paul has had the itch to live as an expatriate abroad, hopping from country to country, enjoying world travel. But, in order to do this, Paul has to create an income stream that can support him and his partner along their travels. Of course, as a smart investor, Paul has already been building this extra income in the background. Since starting his rental property investing journey only a year and a half ago, Paul is already at five doors, with a sixth closing soon. He needs to be at ten doors to have enough rental income to cover his expenses in the US, but how much farther could that money go abroad? In This Episode We Cover Why rental properties are perfect for those planning on retiring abroad Keeping your expenses low as your income grows so you can retire early When to transition from traditional retirement accounts to real estate investing Roth conversion ladders and turning pre-tax retirement accounts into post-tax savings Out-of-state investing and leveraging your high income to invest in low-cost areas Using a HELOC (home equity line of credit) to fund real estate purchases And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Student loan forgiveness was a hot topic during the 2020 election cycle. With so many outstanding student loan payments, will the government step in to wipe out the debt? While many theorize about this, Robert Farrington takes the opposite angle, urging those who have student loans to prepare for repayment, rather than cancellation. This way, even if your student loans get forgiven, you’re put in a financially advantageous spot. Robert runs The College Investor, a website dedicated to investing and personal finance for millennials. It comes as no surprise that the biggest thing on millennials’ minds are student loans, especially after two years of repayment moratoriums. So, how does someone strapped with student loans prepare for repayment, especially when so many variables are up in the air? Well, according to Robert, there are some simple steps you can take to make sure you’re paying on time and with as little stress as possible. Episode note: This episode was recorded prior to the new student loan pause, set to expire on May 1st, 2022. Mindy and Robert record a special intro to update listeners on the new dates set by the Biden Administration. All other topics discussed in the show, especially around repayment strategy, are still viable and accurate for those who have student loans. In This Episode We Cover The most recent student loan repayment moratorium update The difference between federal and private student loans and which are preferable Refinancing your student loans and why most people shouldn’t Student loan forgiveness and whether or not it will come to fruition this year Steps you need to take NOW to ensure you don’t miss a payment or accrue extra interest Which repayment plans work best for your lifestyle and allow you the most financial flexibility And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bad debt is more common than it seems. Many people you know have a car loan, personal loan, credit card loan, or some other form of high(er) interest debt. If you find yourself with bad debt, the first thing to do is formulate a plan to get rid of it, unless you want your savings and potential investments to suffer the consequences. Today’s guest, Stephanie is in a financially solid position, but she has some bad debt to take care of. She’s on her way to financial freedom by forty after already owning a home and having some retirement investments growing in the background. But, her $13,000 window loan at ten percent interest is causing leakage of investable cash flow. Yet, Stephanie may be in a better position than she thinks. Since buying her house, she’s seen a big increase in her property value, which may enable her to secure some lower interest financing to pay off her window loan. Scott and Mindy also help Stephanie develop an expense tracking plan, debate whether or not whole life insurance is worth it, and put her in the driver’s seat to become a cash-flowing landlord only a few short years down the road! In This Episode We Cover The importance of tracking your expenses and why every dollar needs its place Good debt vs. bad debt and how to know whether or not an interest rate is too high HELOCs (home equity lines of credit) and using them to pay off bad debt Whole life insurance vs. term life insurance and which makes more sense for you Whether or not that bathroom upgrade will have a positive ROI Becoming a financial expert slowly through podcasts, books, and enjoyable education And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Home insurance isn’t the sexiest topic, but in the world of financial independence, predictability is quite an attractive trait to have. That’s why money nerds across the world value insurance as a natural hedge against catastrophic wealth-ending disasters. Whether you’re a homeowner, a renter, or a landlord, home insurance could help you rebuild quicker after the unexpected happens. Recently, a large fire broke out around the Denver, Colorado area, affecting families in Mindy’s home city of Longmont. Thankfully, Mindy and her family are safe, but many didn’t share the same fate. Hundreds of households were left without homes, while they watched their old neighborhoods turn to ashes and embers. This prompted Mindy to invite her good friend and insurance expert, Steve Longenecker, onto the show to discuss how you can financially protect your family when disaster strikes. Are you underinsured thanks to rising home prices? How much will your insurance company pay you if your home is destroyed? How are renters protected during natural disasters? And who should you contact to make a claim? All these questions (and more) are answered in today’s bonus episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast. In This Episode We Cover How home price appreciation greatly affects your insurance coverage Checking to make sure you’re not underinsured or overinsured “Binding restrictions” and how insurance companies use them during disasters Tips for homeowners on getting the most appropriate insurance policy for their needs Renters insurance and how renters can stay protected as well How to submit and process a claim with your insurance agent And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Death and finances can arguably be called the two things that people hate talking about most. Unfortunately, these are two topics that cannot be kept in the dark, as we all must deal with loss, both emotionally and financially over our lifetime. What can the average person do when they’ve just received the heartbreaking news that a loved one has died. Even worse, what if it’s their partner? This almost unimaginable shock came to Allison Nichol Longtin when her husband passed away six years into their marriage. Not only did Allison have to carry the emotional burden of losing her partner, but she also had to deal with the financial fallout of his death. She spent over a year carrying around a portfolio of papers, proving to numerous different entities that she indeed was the new owner of her husband’s accounts. Allison admittedly made some mistakes in not preparing for the unexpected, but she’s since then made a strong case that every couple should do what she overlooked. Today, Mindy and Allison go through the top steps that every couple (married or unmarried) should take in order to keep their financial burden as minimal as possible during an unexpected death. This was a very difficult episode to record (due to the subject matter at hand). We wholeheartedly thank Allison for coming on and giving advice that will benefit every couple listening to this episode. In This Episode We Cover How to prepare for the unexpected death of your spouse or partner The importance of creating a will and estate planning Why having joint bank accounts is an often overlooked financial failsafe Having a plan in place to share passwords and login information for financial accounts Defeating your money anxiety and becoming less avoidant about finances How to have a money date with yourself or your partner And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Can I retire yet?” If you’re today’s guest Jenn, then the short answer is a resounding “yes”. And if you aren’t Jenn, you’ll probably want to be in her position upon retirement. Jenn has a lot of income options: a military pension from her spouse, a great full-time income, real estate syndication cash flow, and a LOT of assets. Jenn’s net worth has reached the height of around $4 million, with more than a million alone in retirement accounts. If Jenn is so set, why is she coming on the Money Podcast to talk with Scott and Mindy? Well, Jenn has a pretty large amount of expenses: somewhere in the ballpark of nine thousand dollars a month. She wants to know if she has enough passive income and investable assets to continue living life the way that she sees fit. Her family will also be moving to Europe for the next year or so, making it even more crucial that she has enough to enjoy traveling. This show talks about some pretty high-level concepts specifically around real estate equity and syndications. Even if you’re not an accredited investor, this information will be worth its weight in gold to you as you scale your income and net worth. Soon, you could be in a position just like Jenn! In This Episode We Cover Military pensions and how to value them for retirement Spending less than you earn and joint vs. separate bank accounts for couples Building (and then selling off) a high-value real estate portfolio Investing in real estate syndications and the tax benefits that come with it How to avoid “one more year” syndrome when thinking about retirement Maximizing your portfolio’s income and calculating your return-on-time And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Most people assume wealth is built from a singular source, but the most successful people have multiple streams of income. 2020 was the year of the side hustle. People started to find ways to monetize their hobbies, create services, and capitalize on their talents. While some people are just now catching on, today’s guest, Jannese Torres-Rodriguez, was ahead of the curve. It all began with a food blog she started for fun that has turned into passive income for her $320,000 salary composed solely from her various “side hustles”. Before the start of her money journey, Jannese was on the traditional path to what most would consider the ideal type of success. She not only graduated from college but got her master's in pharmaceuticals and landed a job that led to her dream, a six-figure salary. Despite this, she was still unhappy and soon realized she was unaligned with the power of money. Over time, she made several lifestyle changes and started learning about financial independence. Using what she learned, Jannese finished paying off her $57,000 student loans and became debt-free in February of 2020. After 5+ years of accruing income from her food blog, Jannese discovered she could make her side hustles a full-time business and finally be fulfilled by the work she was doing. She began a podcast about financial independence that aims to help people of color learn more about financial freedom. She also does virtual workshops, digital courses, and brand partnerships as well as several other services that contribute to her salary. Jannese is a perfect example that you don’t have to give up what you love to make money, you just have to capitalize on it. In This Episode We Cover How to find financial independence, even if you’re in a lot of debt How to minimize excessive spending while still enjoying your money Becoming a full-time entrepreneur and managing the struggles of being self-employed Outsourcing work and its importance especially when you’re stretched thin Dealing with Imposter Syndrome and overcoming shyness The value of diversifying your income and why it’s becoming more popular Finding your niche target market, even if you don’t think you have one And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mindy may seem like a financial superhero to most listeners of the Money Podcast, but she’s nothing without her financial education inspiring partner, Carl Jensen. Carl is known quite well around the personal finance community as co-host of the Mile High FI podcast and writer over at 1500days.com. Carl and Mindy are just closing in on their twentieth anniversary, so there’s no better occasion to have them both on the show than right now! Surprisingly, Carl and Mindy didn’t talk about money for a significant time once they started dating. Mindy credits her faith in Carl’s money skills by how he acted more than how he spoke. Carl was driving around a used car, he lived in a house he inherited from his grandmother, and he used a coupon on their first date (smart move, Carl). Now as a financial and romantic powerhouse, they both share thoughts on prenuptial agreements, protecting your wealth, 401k investing, and questions to ask a potential partner. Whether you’re single, dating, married, or a money-hoarding hermit, this episode sheds light on twenty years worth of money lessons learned so you can live a happier, more FI-focused life! In This Episode We Cover When a prenup is worth having and whether or not it will protect your wealth The telltale “context clues” of dating someone who has a frugal mindset Frontloading your retirement accounts so you can build wealth faster The importance of tracking your expenses and regularly updating your FI number Margin loans and getting low-interest debt on your stock portfolio When to start talking about money with a potential partner And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Building wealth takes decades with some serious hard work and many, many mistakes along the way. The problem? Most financial independence chasers see themselves as having to be perfectionists. Every investment must be perfect, every dollar spent housed within a budget, and at no time can money become something fun or playful. Joe Saul-Sehy and Emily Guy Birken rightfully see this type of “serious money attitude” as a mistake that should be avoided at all costs. Every financial guru, expert, or leader in the field has made money mistakes, stressed about money, and finally overcame to accomplish greatness. This is exactly what Joe and Emily want you to accomplish through their new book Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management. Joe and Emily threw out the old-fashioned mentality about money having to be a serious subject. Instead, they littered their new book with humorous anecdotes, financial innuendo, and lessons that will allow you, your child, your spouse, or your best friend to succeed. If you’re tired of stressing about money and want to start stacking it instead, preorder the new book today! In This Episode We Cover Why most personal finance books tend to miss the mark on being entertaining and informative Risk management and how it goes far beyond simply buying insurance The importance of having a financial plan in place NOW before disaster strikes 401ks vs. Roth IRAs and the future tax implications of retirement accounts Tax brackets and the simplicity of calculating yours Why Joe needed to “fire” his own mother from working on his book And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stocks vs. real estate is a regular feud among many financially savvy forums on the internet. While some investors love the passive aspect of stocks, other investors love the tax savings and flexibility of real estate. Regardless of your preferred asset, it’s better to stick your hard-earned money in something that makes money for you, instead of spending it or letting it sit. Our guest today, Madison, is having trouble deciding which asset class she and her husband are best suited for. They have high-income jobs, a great net worth for their age, and just moved from the expensive San Francisco Bay Area to far more reasonable Texas. They’ll have a lot more money to stash away without the high rent, gas prices, or child care they had in California. But neither Madison nor her husband have plans to retire early, so should they even plan for early retirement? Scott and Mindy walk Madison through her multiple different investing options, along with giving her the structure to formulate a three, five, and ten-year plan for wealth building and financial freedom. We may hear back from Madison very soon on the progress she’s made! In This Episode We Cover Why relocating to another state can be a massive savings lever Understanding when you want to retire and how your assets play a part in retirement Putting in your “500 hours” to any asset you truly have an interest in Turning your primary residence into a rental property after you upgrade Stock investing vs. real estate and the pros and cons of both Reducing your spending so you can save (and invest) much more And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you need pension funds explained, there’s no better person to talk to than the internet’s leading voice on all things pensions and retirement, Grumpus Maximus. After spending twenty or so years in the military, Grumpus began to put his health, happiness, and passions first. Now, retired with plenty of money coming in (thanks to pensions and retirement accounts), Grumpus spends his time blogging and helping others ask the meaningful question, “is my pension worth it?” Guest co-host Joe Saul-Sehy from the Stacking Benjamins podcast is here to help Mindy tee up some pension-related questions for Grumpus. Whether or not you have a job offering a pension or you’re debating accepting a job with a pension, the research-based questions asked today will help you evaluate whether or not a pension is truly worth it. You’ll hear about the safety of pensions, healthcare-impacted pensions, annuities, and Cost-of-Living Adjustments (COLA) so you can make the best possible decision regarding your (early) retirement plans! In This Episode We Cover “Cashing out” of a pension and what to do with the money Understanding the healthcare implications that come with leaving a pension Which industries have the riskiest pension plans Is an annuity ever worth the fees? Researching your pension and understanding the benefits How to analyze the safety of an organization’s pension plan And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A common debate in real estate is cash flow vs. appreciation. While some investors rely on their rental property income to reach FI, others argue that appreciation will provide them the equity gain to truly build wealth. You’ll hear this discussion in-depth on today’s episode as guest Jackeline walks Mindy and Scott through her $20,000 rental property in Northern Illinois. Jackeline is already doing well in other aspects of her life. She’s got a high net worth, with fully-funded retirement accounts and a big cash cushion, but she wants to reach FI by 45 so she has the option to retire. One of the best ways to do that? Cash flowing rentals! The only problem is that Jackeline is buying these rentals in a less-than-optimal area. With rentals in C or D-class neighborhoods, you can count on more tenant problems, repairs, and headaches. But, these downsides come with the big upside of higher cash flow. Scott and Mindy both help Jackeline balance the scales on what is most important to her: buying in an appreciating market but using more of her cash or continuing to purchase low-cost, riskier rental properties. In This Episode We Cover Building multiple financial safety nets between retirement accounts, cash, and cash flow Buying rentals in C to D-class neighborhoods and the pros/cons associated with them Properly screening tenants to minimize turnover and maximize ROI Experimenting with different rental property classes to find a strategy that works for you Finding your real estate tribe and networking with others who can help you grow 1031-ing a property to avoid a tax penalty and grow your real estate portfolio And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We have a lot of impressive guests on the show, and they just seem to get younger with every new episode. You’ve heard the stories of people in their twenties buying rentals, people in their thirties hitting coast FI, and people in their forties and beyond making many, many millions. But, what about a marine recruit, making a low salary, buying more than $800k in real estate within his second decade on earth? Now that sounds like an interesting story. Jabbar Adesada fits the bill exactly! After moving in with his father, he was given strict instruction to read books like Rich Dad Poor Dad, I Will Teach You To Be Rich, and Automatic Millionaire. Jabbar decided to put down his NBA/med school dreams and open up a brokerage account. Lucky for him, right around the time he started investing was the 2020 stock market crash, giving him all the discount he needed to make his first profits. After running some “when will I be a millionaire?” scenarios, Jabbar realized that real estate, and not the stock market, was the best path to financial independence. Jabbar shares the story of how he was able to find funding, a down payment, and a property that would allow him to house hack, Craige Curelop style. Not only that, Jabbar just closed on a short-term rental in the Smoky Mountains, which puts his real estate portfolio north of $800k! Let’s mention this again: He’s twenty years old! In This Episode We Cover Why early financial education can make or break your child’s path to success The best finance books that you (or your child, cousin, niece, or nephew) should read Why crashes aren’t a sign to panic, but a sign to buy more House hacking at a young age, and how to get pre-approved for loans without an extensive job history Having an “obsessive mindset to be wealthy” and using it to help not only yourself but others Practicing delayed gratification and building a brighter future with each investment And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are many ways to fund your nest egg. You could outright save, or you could invest in index funds, rental properties, or short-term rentals like today’s guest, Charlotte from Charlotte. Working as a teacher in one of the lowest-paid states in the US, Charlotte was able to fully replace her teacher’s salary by operating a single short-term rental cabin in Western North Carolina. When she discovered the FIRE Movement only a year ago, she knew that intelligent investments like this could fund the globetrotting adventures she and her husband had plans for. But, with her husband four years away from securing his government pension, Charlotte wants to be absolutely sure that her short-term rentals will be pulling the fiscal weight of word travel when he steps away from his job. Charlotte may be a rookie in the terms of real estate investing, but she’s far from it when it comes to taking actionable steps to ensure phenomenal returns. She’ll be hitting a 100% cash-on-cash return with her newest rental addition! If you have dreams of early retirement through real estate, follow Charlotte’s lead by planning, executing, and financing to FI! In This Episode We Cover The phenomenal returns of short-term rentals and why now may be the best time to invest How to plan for retirement with a pension or predictable income stream Investing in index funds vs. real estate when trying to hit FI Vacation home, second home, and portfolio loans for your next short-term rental Why the high price of STR property management may be worth the peace of mind And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you’ve been in the FI community for years, you know the ins and outs of retirement planning, index fund investing, house hacking, and every other money-making opportunity around. But, it’s safe to say that this took you years to figure out, sometimes well into adulthood. What if you were given the same knowledge you have now, but when you were a teenager? Dan Sheeks is trying to do this exactly, by teaching his students about personal finance, saving, investing, and how they can plan for FI. Dan has taken his knowledge of finance, teaching, and working with teens to write First to a Million, a Teenager’s Guide to Achieving Financial Independence. In this book, Dan takes teens on a journey through the four mechanisms of financial independence and teaches them to plan money around what makes them happy. So many teenagers have seen their parents run off to work only to come home exhausted, constantly checking emails, and rarely present with the family. Dan wants to make this all-too-real future a thing of the past for teens who are willing to work hard, be frugal, and practice financial discipline. In This Episode We Cover Why The American Dream may be off-course for modern teens The financial independence “plan of attack” for teens who want to hit FI fast Why happiness should be at the forefront of your financial decisions Whether or not college is still a viable choice for today’s modern working world The importance of having a strong community you can count on And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re back with another Finance Friday Follow-Up! This week, we talk to two past guests and review three life updates. Fabio from episode 174, Clayton from episode 168, and Rachael from episode 190 all have life updates for the audience! When we last talked to Fabio, he was starting to expand his real estate empire. Since the market has been so hot, he has had to pivot his strategy towards what works best for him in the long term. With a few years of military service left, Fabio wants to wind down his more active income and pursue more passive income streams, while still including real estate and stocks/index funds in the mix! Clayton shared with us on his solo episode how lucrative living on the road can be. Since then, his girlfriend has turned into his fiancé, he’s been offered a very large pay raise, and he has scaled his real estate portfolio with one more house hack. He also gets to take his foot off the literal gas pedal since he’ll be transitioning into a more stay-at-home role. Rachael wasn’t able to be here for a video interview but sent Mindy an update on her overall financial situation. Since we last talked, Rachael realized that house hacking wouldn’t be exactly the right fit for her family. Thankfully, she’ll be closing on a new home closer to her children. Rachael also found herself in a particularly scary financial and medical situation since we last talked, something that you’ll hear about in-depth on a new episode in the coming months! In This Episode We Cover When is the right time to sell a property, especially in a hot seller’s market? Paying off high-interest debt so you can reach financial independence faster The importance of budgeting and expense tracking so you don’t impulse buy ESPPs (employee stock purchase plans), HSA (health savings accounts), and other lucrative investing options Sharing the financial knowledge with your significant other in case of an emergency And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the last day of a semester in college, Adam Zaleski’s geology professor dropped a bomb on his class: the professor was worth a staggering $10,000,000! The reason for telling the students about his net worth wasn’t to impress but to make the case that exponential growth is more likely than most people think. This taught Adam that he needed to choose a profession he enjoyed so he could continue to work, invest, and grow his wealth exponentially, just like his professor. Adam did just that, and now, he’s a millionaire professor, working a casual thirty hours per week, doing what he loves! Adam knew from the beginning it was more important to make long-lasting, intelligent financial decisions, instead of chasing after a bigger salary. He did this right out of college, taking a serious pay cut to live in a state with far cheaper housing, allowing him to house hack, build wealth, and reach financial freedom. Now, Adam is looking to expand his real estate empire a little further, without having to sacrifice a large amount of time to do so. If you’re interested in partnering up with Adam or looking to chat about long-distance real estate investing, market analysis, or the best surf spots in Kauai, shoot Adam a message on BiggerPockets! In This Episode We Cover Why lifestyle choices are important when choosing your job, house, and investments Understanding the value that comes with exponential wealth growth House hacking and analyzing real estate markets with the most growth opportunity Buying rentals in places you love, so you can write off the trip! Scheduling your rent raises so you keep up with market cash flow The most important financial lessons of your 20s, 30s, and 40s And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It takes a leap of faith to leave a W2 job and wander through the hills and valleys of self-employment. With the right skill set, time management, and perseverance, you can come out more profitable (and happier) than you were originally at your old job. But, once you succeed, it may be hard to slow down the self-employment train, and your side-gig could become a full-on business, with the need for employees. TJ has put herself in a phenomenal position, both financially and income-wise. She left her job to become a full-time consultant but knows she won’t be able to expand without hiring her first employee. Her business would need an employee to bring in more revenue, BUT she needs more revenue to bring on an employee. What would you do in this situation? Scott and Mindy have both spent time outsourcing and hiring before. They help TJ develop a roadmap to getting her first hire on board while keeping crucial revenue in the business. This episode also dives into self-employed health insurance, project management, and hiring a junior position that can grow into a senior in little time. In This Episode We Cover Why it’s imperative to keep your costs low while trying to run a business What to do once you’ve hit your max capacity for work at your business Whether or not now is the time for you to hire your first employee Fully mapping out the cost of a full-time vs. part-time worker on your team Putting together a business plan that allows you to forecast your business’s future Health insurance while self-employed and why an HSA plan may be your best bet And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is college worth it? For the first time in history, we may have a definitive answer to whether or not your specific degree and school choice provides a positive ROI. We know that ROI isn’t the only thing that matters when choosing a degree, but when looking at higher education through a financial independence lens, it’s definitely the highest value. Looking through census, employment, and Department of Education data is number crunching crusader, Preston Cooper. Preston and his team over at The Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity put together the most extensive research on college degree ROI ever created. Preston’s findings allow you to parse through over 30,000 degrees and school choices so you (or your child) can make the best decision on where to get a bachelor's degree. Preston discusses the discrepancies between nonprofit and for-profit university degrees, whether or not high-cost schools equal a higher payday through life, and why even going to Harvard doesn’t secure a high ROI. Want to know the true value of your degree? Tune in and check out Preston’s full study! In This Episode We Cover How much you could benefit, in general, from getting an undergraduate degree The degrees that have the highest lifetime ROI Degrees that offer little-to-no or negative financial benefit Whether investing in real estate or a college degree is more worth it The biggest criticisms of Preston’s study and how he combats them Dave, Mindy, and Scott’s ROI on their respective degrees And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Everyone knows that tech salaries tend to be on the higher end. In tech, you could be working as an engineer, programmer, or statistician, like today’s guest Matthew. But, Matthew never planned to go to school for this type of work. Half a decade ago, Matthew was wearing a chef’s apron, working forty to sixty-hour weeks, making slightly above minimum wage. He loved the work (and the food) but realized he couldn’t keep living with the long hours, low wages, and high stress. Mathew went back to school to study statistics and landed a job in tech, which he’s just recently moved on from, and accepted a far higher salary. This all sounds like good news, so what exactly is Matthew having trouble with? After maxing out many of his retirement accounts, Matthew is wondering where else he should be putting his money. He’s already saving a significant amount every month, thanks to his frugal lifestyle, but wants to be sure he’s standing on a strong financial foundation. Should he look into rental properties, taxable brokerage accounts, or higher-risk assets like tech stocks and crypto? If you’re lucky enough to have a little extra change left over at the end of every month, you may be in Matthew’s position too! In This Episode We Cover Changing careers even after you’ve been working in the industry for years What to do if you’re young and don’t know which field to study Keeping your expenses low, regardless of how well your job pays Starting side businesses that can help you float expenses Investing in after-tax retirement accounts vs. investing in post-tax retirement accounts Live in flip tips from the master herself (Mindy Jensen) Calculating out your estimated retirement nest egg using the ‘Rule of 72’ And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You’ve heard the old statistic “nine out of ten businesses fail”, but why is that? If there are so many people willing to risk their livelihood to pursue a great idea, why do so many end up broke and back at a job? Gabe Nelson, certified financial planner and business advisor, has an idea. Gabe advises many business owners and solopreneurs through building their businesses with maximum cash flow and minimum time commitment. A couple of decades ago, Gabe was in the position many entrepreneurs are in today. He was working seven days a week, almost living at the office, doing anything he could to build his business. Once his daughter was born, he knew he had to take a step back from the seven-day workweek. Then, his second and third daughter were born, forcing him to automate, delegate, and eliminate every unnecessary task on his plate. Now, with a thriving firm, Gabe knows what does (and doesn’t) work for solopreneurs, and the systems they need to implement now to secure a happy life tomorrow. In This Episode We Cover The #1 thing you should do before you start a business or side hustle Keeping your relationships healthy while working long hours at your business Outsourcing when you’re ready and growing a self-operating team Laying the groundwork of communication between you and your partner Managing cash flow in your business and keeping a healthy safety reserve Trusting the “whispers” that your gut tells you about your business And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your late 20s through early 30s can be a financially troubling part of life. You aren’t making the most money you ever will, but you’re tackling big expenses. A wedding, a down payment, and trying to max out retirement accounts can put you in a financial tizzy. But, it doesn’t have to be so complicated, especially if you stick to a scalable investment strategy. Today’s guest Louise is in this position. She recently changed employers and found herself with a big uptick in monthly income. She has plans on the horizon to marry her girlfriend but knows this will come at the cost of many thousands of dollars (rings, dresses, etc.) She’s also looking at buying a primary residence, but is already familiar with the home buying experience (she has two rentals!) Louise has a plan to hit FI (or at least coast FI) by age 40 and wants to know the best way to optimize her finances to do so. Scott and Mindy have a healthy debate over 401ks, Roth IRAs, refinancing rental properties, and combining finances as partners, in order to get Louise in the best position possible to tackle her financial goals. In This Episode We Cover Why switching jobs may be the ultimate hack to getting a better salary Whether you should max out your Roth, 401k, Roth 401k, or HSA Getting a cash-out-refinance instead of stockpiling cash Whether or not paying off a rental property mortgage is a good idea Renting vs. buying when living in an expensive market Combining finances as a couple and having the ever-important “money date” And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are few people on this earth that can make Mindy laugh as much as Alex Felice. He’s been around the block with BiggerPockets a few times, appearing on episode 301 of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast. Alex has a growing rental property portfolio, a flipping business, and is a professional photographer/videographer. But, beneath his success, was thirty-one years of financial struggle. Alex was taught financial skills growing up. The only problem: he didn’t listen to any of the advice he was given. He joined the Army without any skills, and as soon as he got out, he immediately bought a new car with a high monthly payment. He then was hit with a DUI, forcing him to really think what his life would turn out like unless he made a change. He needed cash flow but didn’t want to go out and get another job, so he settled on investing in real estate. It was important for Alex to have a “get rich slowly” type asset, one with stability that could take care of him well into retirement. Now, he’s amassed an impressive portfolio, with some large commercial deals and flips on the side. Alex spends his days investing, working on his skills, traveling, and really doing whatever he wants! In This Episode We Cover Why self-sustainability is more important than a big paycheck Using “radical responsibility” to mold your perfect life and never falling into the “it will be okay” trap Buying foreclosures and BRRRRing properties to minimize cash needed for investing Having control over your money so you have ultimate financial freedom Why you MUST surround yourself with like-minded, successful individuals Focusing on your passions (regardless of whether they pay well or not) And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Should I cash out my 401k?” That’s a question you never want to ask in an online financial independence forum. It’s been a well-known rule to never cash out retirement accounts due to withdrawal penalties, tax implications, and the possibility of throwing away your retirement plans. But, what if you had a substantially larger amount in real estate and other assets, what would you think then? Kate is in this exact predicament and has done a phenomenal job at growing her wealth over the past decade. Kate and her husband have acquired $1.8 million in rental properties, bringing in gross rents of over $10,000 per month! She’s currently sitting on half a million dollars in rental property debt and is wondering whether cashing out her 401k to pay off the debt would make sense. Because Kate is in such a high cash flow position, she may be asking a question that’s not so obvious. Mindy and Scott spend time walking through calculations that allow Kate to visualize what her life would look like with paid-off rentals as opposed to a fully-funded 401k account. In This Episode We Cover Why a mentor can help spur you onto to make better, more aggressive investing decisions Moving to a different part of the country to take advantage of higher salaries How to calculate whether or not you should withdraw your 401k funds Switching your job to a more flexible schedule without giving up your salary Travel hacking and using credit card points to pay for your vacations The benefit of using financing to buy your primary residence or rental properties And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brad Finn was raised with a strong work ethic that follows him to this day. He always knew he should be working hard, and that’s exactly what he did. Brad worked throughout high school, college, and started multiple businesses in adulthood. While his work ethic was strong, his financial skills were lacking. When Brad went to college, he remembers using almost a third of his student loans on partying alone. Fast forward to his mid-thirties, Brad is waking up in a beautiful house, with two nice cars in the driveway, a great income, a new business, and a negative net worth. It wasn’t until Brad allowed himself to look at the true number behind his net worth that he realized something needed to change. Fortunately, his wife had been slowly, but surely, trying to tell Brad that they had to make that change. The day Brad’s first child was born, he and his wife were debt-free. This didn’t come easy, especially since they were facing close to $190,000 in debt. They tracked their spending and realized they spent close to $20,000 in two months, solely on eating out. They dialed it in, worked side jobs to boost their savings rates, and rewarded themselves when they hit milestones. Now their net worth is growing fast, and they’re locked in on investing. In This Episode We Cover Calculating how much you need in student loans and taking out that exact amount How to continue your debt payoff journey without getting discouraged Rewarding yourself for big milestones, even if it will set you back a small amount Talking to your partner about money and asking their opinion on strategies Raising your budget on things that matter while lowering it on things that don’t Retirement plans for government workers, like 403b and 457 plans Understanding that the long journey to financial freedom is worth it And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Retirement planning can be complicated when you have so many options to choose from. Do you stick with the Roth IRA, the 401k, the Roth 401k, your employee pension plan, or solely invest in stocks and real estate? With all these different types of accounts and their numerous benefits and drawbacks, it’s easy to get stuck financially stalling. One person who has been able to optimize his retirement plans, is Matt, pilot and soon-to-be captain, delivering cargo around the United States. Matt bought a home in high-appreciation St. Petersburg Florida, where his home has already gained a fair amount of equity. Although he loves the ability to rent out his home and create cash flow, Matt doesn’t like staying on dry land for too long. He’s going to captain his own home; living in a houseboat and renting out his primary residence to lower his living costs even more. Matt talks through questions he has about his 401k, Roth 401k, Roth IRA, and other retirement accounts. Even though Matt feels he could be optimizing his finances for faster retirement, both Mindy and Scott agree: if he keeps doing what he’s doing, he’ll reach his fifty-year-old retirement goal, without any change to his current lifestyle. In This Episode We Cover Deciding between the 401k, Roth IRA, Roth 401k, and other retirement accounts House hacking and taking advantage of low-interest, owner-occupied loans Whether or not an employee pension should be thought of as a guaranteed retirement Living on a boat to save money on housing costs and maximize cash flow How to plan for retirement when you have an age limit for your job Employee stock purchase plans (ESPPs) and when to invest in one And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you’re part of the FI community, you’re probably a saver. Heck, if you’re listening to this podcast you’re probably a saver. While we all are busy optimizing our budget, reinvesting dividends, and contributing to our retirement accounts, do we ever take a step back and ask, “why are we saving so much?” Maybe you have a simplistic answer for this: your kids, your spouse, your “future”. When it comes time to finally reap the rewards of all that saving and investing, we struggle, and often fail to do so. Ramit Sethi, the author of I Will Teach You To Be Rich, has struggled with this in his personal life as well. When he got married, he and his wife spoke about what money meant to them, and they were shocked to have completely different answers. While Ramit loves setting up models and spreadsheets, he also encourages couples to speak about their finances through a shared vision. It isn’t “I’m saving this money so we can be happy”, it’s “WE are saving this money so we can take that camping trip we always dreamed of.” We touch on other topics like joint bank accounts, creating a “worry-free number”, and building a rich life together, as partners. Ramit also gives personal advice to Mindy to help her realize that she has already won the “money game”, even if it doesn’t feel like it at times. In This Episode We Cover Combining finances as a couple and creating a shared vision How much to keep in your personal and joint bank accounts Creating your “worry-free” number that allows you to live life without money stress The “money rules” that Ramit uses in his daily life Getting over your “savings rate obsession” and finding joy in spending Why spending can become painful for those who are on the road to financial independence And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A few weeks ago, Mindy was asked by a listener of BiggerPockets Money, “when are you going to do a Finance Friday follow-up?” Well, listener, your wish has come true! Today we talk to three past guests of the BiggerPockets Money Show, Sarah from episodes 6 and 178, Brian from episode 180, and Erik from episode 170. In Sarah’s most recent episode, she spoke about having large safety reserves and sinking funds for her new property. Since being on the show, she’s taken time to evaluate how safe she really needs to feel. She’s taken a risk and has started to invest in her first short-term rental, as well as being on the house hunt for her next house-hack property! Brian had the question we all want to have, “what do I do with all this money?” Since coming on the show, he’s expanded his rental property portfolio, purchasing an off-market five-unit in upstate New York, and a short-term rental in North Carolina. He’s currently looking into syndications to see if that would be another great avenue for his wealth accumulation. Lastly, Erik has returned to the show with more rental units and more cash flow! He’s been able to pay off his HELOC with a very lucrative refinance, allowing him to buy a new condo that is paying him $400/month after all expenses! He was even able to increase his salary thanks to his employer’s free education program! Make sure you stick around for his bonus tip towards the end of the episode! In This Episode We Cover Why being too conservative with your savings can become a financial detriment Making offers on properties that work for your numbers, even if it means rejection Why short-term rentals are very cash flow heavy investment Telling everyone you know that you’re investing in real estate (to get more deals!) Using a cash-out refinance to pay off old loans like equity lines and HELOCs Taking advantage of employee benefits like free college tuition And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amber Porter has one of the most optimized retirement plans we’ve ever seen. Seriously, she could give Mindy and Scott a run for their money! Amber grew up in a neighborhood that was anything but rich. Surprisingly, the wealthier people in her neighborhood were more interested in purchasing nice cars instead of investing, which they told her was essentially gambling. Amber quickly saw past this idea and realized that smart, consistent investing could lead her to many millions of dollars. She worked throughout high school and was able to graduate in only three years. Then, she applied for every scholarship possible and did the same in college, graduating in three years and completely debt-free. Suddenly, the idea of law school came into her head. She studied, passed the entrance exam, and got into a top school. The same school even gave her a twenty-five thousand dollar scholarship every year she attended. After graduating, she started investing heavily, working as much as she could to fund retirement accounts. She started working for the Army on the side, which allowed her to get an even better retirement plan, an army retirement check, and the ability to buy homes with a zero percent down VA loan. If all goes to plan, Amber will be retiring with close to ten million dollars at age fifty! In This Episode We Cover How to graduate from college debt-free by taking advantage of scholarships Graduating early so you can save a year's worth of tuition Working a government job with the benefit of a pension upon retirement Military benefits for homeownership, retirement investing, and more Getting rid of the “investing is gambling” fear many people have Reaching Fat FIRE upon retirement so you can live exactly how you dreamed And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Marching along Bourbon Street last week was a parade with some of the best real estate investors in the world, celebrating another successful BPCon, ready to take on the world. Throughout the past week, attendees of the conference heard from world-class business leaders, investors, and authors, learning about everything from running a business to short-term rental markets, to self-storage, and more. On this live episode, your BiggerPockets Money host, Scott Trench, is joined by Brandon Turner and David Greene, hosts of the BiggerPockets Podcast, Ashley Kehr and Tony Robinson, hosts of the Real Estate Rookie Podcast, and Liz Faircloth and Andresa Guidelli, hosts of The Real Estate InvestHER Podcast, plus special guest Esther, who has a widely impressive portfolio herself. You’ll hear the hosts talk about topics like how to connect with fellow investors, future trends influencing the real estate market, what’s working today (and what isn’t), plus a live version of the Famous Four and Fire Round. If you weren’t able to make it to this year's BPCon, plug into this episode and get on the waiting list for next year! In This Episode We Cover What’s ‘firing up’ the hosts of the BiggerPockets Podcast Network? What investors can do in today’s market to ensure wealth tomorrow Future trends that allow investors to profitably pivot How BPCon helps connect investors, reshape ideas, and build wealth How do you vet partners before you go in on a deal with them? The top characteristics that contribute to your success as an investor Why you should definitely be at BPCon 2022 And So Much More! Links from the Show: NPR (National Public Radio) Kevin Leahy's BiggerPockets Profile Mark Ferguson's InvestFourMore Wendy Papasan's LinkedIn Profile Noah Evans's LinkedIn Profile Rickey Rodriguez's BiggerPockets Profile Your First Real Estate Investment Podcast: How to Recover from the Great Recession and Leverage Creative Financing to Fund Your First Deal Joe Asamoah's BiggerPockets Author Profile AJ Osborne's Personal Website Steve Rozenberg's BiggerPockets Profile InvestHer's Partnership Question Guide Meetup Hal Elrod's Personal Website Dave Ramsey's Personal Website Cashflow The Board Game Matt Faircloth's BiggerPockets Author Profile BiggerPockets Calculators The Real Estate InvestHER Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you and your sweetheart want to get married, rent a truck in a Colorado ski town, and have your dog watched while you’re doing so, Stephanie Warner is the person you should get in touch with. Even though she has a great W2 job, she still hustles hard with her side income work, making enough to pay for her lifestyle while her nine-to-five pays for her future financial freedom. Stephanie had enough money growing up, but she wasn’t given a ton of financial literacy lessons from her parents. Thankfully, her Grandma who loved driving used cars and buying rental properties taught her the importance of being a homeowner and helping those who are in need. Once she left her hometown for college, graduated, and got a job, she moved all over the country doing all different sorts of work. This gave her a diversified education and allowed her to take on challenges that were interesting to her. Now, she shares with BiggerPockets Money listeners how she flipped her financial position, thanks to some very lucrative side hustles! A special thanks to our guest host, Joe Saul-Sehy from Stacking Benjamins, who got so tired of Scott’s puns, he decided to host one of the shows himself. In This Episode We Cover The importance of owning your own home and rental properties Graduating with little-to-no college debt, allowing you to save and invest more Taking on jobs that interest you, instead of ones that solely pay the bill The art of side hustles and making thousands after your nine-to-five Living “paycheck to paycheck” by paying yourself first for investing and saving And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Over at BiggerPockets, we all have much love and respect for our trusted video editor, Joel Esparza. He brings phenomenal work quality, timing, and communication to every project he’s on, but many of us don’t know his inspiring and truly impressive backstory. Joel is originally from Venezuela, which has experienced rampant inflation over the past decade putting its citizens in economic turmoil. Joel went to school in Argentina and was able to leave without debt thanks to an inheritance left to him. When he migrated back to Venezuela, he was hired as a video editor for an agency making, get this, $20/month. Yes, that’s correct, we’re talking about $240 per YEAR. This was not an uncommon salary for Venezuelans, but through sheer luck, Joel was introduced to some side business that began paying him two to three times the amount he would make in one month, in only two hours. Joel quickly jumped ship as an employee and began building his clientele as a self-employed editor. Now, as the head video editor at BiggerPockets, Joel wants to outsource his business, hire on staff, and move towards more of a leadership role. In This Episode We Cover The massive financial struggles of living in Venezuela during exceedingly high inflation Living as a political refugee in a brand new country on a whole different continent Using freelance work as a way to substantially increase your income Starting partnerships with others in your field who may become competitors Being cognizant of your professional strengths and using them to get more clients Understanding the unit economics behind growing a business and a team And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It didn’t take Addison Freeman long to realize what worked in school, wouldn’t work in real life. Those who got good grades and followed the standard playbook weren’t rewarded as plentifully on the investing front as they were in the classroom. When Addison realized it would take her over thirty years to hit millionaire status on the conventional track, she knew she needed a change. Addison started to look for, as she likes to call them, “super assets” or assets that grow while putting cash in your hand. She started with a house hack duplex where she was able to pay her mortgage by renting out one side. Then, she started to get into self-storage investing, which is now her husband’s main job. Along the way they tried (and failed) at starting businesses, but never took their foot off the gas on their journey to financial independence. At the age of 26, Addison and her husband are financially independent, sitting on a net worth of over $700,000 with an almost guaranteed chance at being part of the millionaire class very, very soon. In This Episode We Cover Why conventional investing won’t cut it when you’re trying to be a millionaire Buying as many “super assets” as you can while you’re young Starting a small business and the reason that it may (or may not) fail Why self-storage is an excellent industry for real estate investors to get into How commercial real estate is valued and the immense equity you can add to it Living below your means and investing hard for years And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Strong frugality is hard to come by. Not many people would write off their solar system as a business expense and use bitcoin mining to provide heat to their house, instead of using a space heater. These are just two things that Yourri, an engineer and diversification whiz, has done to make his balance sheet as optimized as possible. Yourri has spent the better part of the last decade at school and was able to graduate with a phenomenal job doing something he loves. He makes $120,000 a year but has a big retirement goal of $7,000,000! While this may seem like a massive number to most, Yourri should be able to hit it with some regular investing due to his age and aggressiveness to invest. But, he’ll need to opt-out of an over-diversified investing strategy if he wants to reach this goal as fast as possible. Passion projects are also a big part of Yourri’s life, as he’d like to rebuild a vintage motorcycle, get his pilot license, and adopt as many dogs in need as he can. He has a calculated outlook on his financial growth, and there’s no doubt he’ll hit his goals! In This Episode We Cover Pursuing high-cost hobbies and understanding that FI isn’t all about saving every penny Whether or not diversification could be slowing down your net worth growth The “golden butterfly” investing ratio that helps mitigate risk when investing Writing off solar systems as a business deduction when in a buy-back program Mining bitcoin for not only extra income but free heat! Whether a 401(k) or a Roth 401(k) is the best option for your retirement And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

High-income earners have a better shot at retiring early than those making a median income. That being said, with more money comes more investing risk. After the great recession, Bob Haines was sitting on a $300,000 loss from leveraging too many properties to flip. This put the possibility of retiring early multiple years behind. But, even with a money mistake as large as Bob’s, he’s been able to retire at age forty-four, a good twenty-one years before the standard retirement age. You could say that Bob’s early retirement sprung from his ability to take risks, leave jobs, and go where the money was. Bob went from making $40,000 a year at his first job to $500,000 less than a decade later. While a $500,000 salary was not the norm for Bob, these frequent career and company jumps allowed him to build up a massive cash position ($250k) and invest for retirement faster. Funnily enough, the first time Bob heard about the FI movement, he quickly calculated his FI number and realized he had already hit it. While he took a couple more years to finally pull the trigger and get over his “one more year” dilemma, Bob and his wife were able to retire in 2018 and 2019, allowing them to travel, spend time with family, and enjoy life at the beach. In This Episode We Cover Why small salary increases can massively change a financial position Calculating your market salary and finding a job that matches it The world of “pre-sales engineering” allows for huge compensation The mistakes you can make when sitting on a large amount of cash Over-leveraging yourself in real estate and biting off more than you can chew How to shake off “one more year syndrome” to enjoy early retirement Fighting lifestyle creep even as your salary expands exponentially And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A rock-solid financial position consists of a few things: budgeting, expense tracking, living below your means, and making extra income. Once those are accomplished, you’re on track to start investing heavily and financial independence is in sight. This is exactly the position Lynsey (mother to Mindy’s pool boy) is in. Lynsey and her husband bring in a moderate salary from his job and her businesses of jewelry making, relationship counseling, and their garage and basement house hack. For a long time, Lynsey assumed she would never be able to retire, but as her income has grown she’s realized that she not only can retire but retire early. Lynsey has a few key ways she could increase her business revenue: outsourcing, marketing, and scaling. Her husband also has a strong suspicion he’s underpaid, meaning a boost in income could be one ask away for him. The couple also wants to invest in more short-term rentals or buy another house hack property. But, of all the options they’re presented with, which one will push the needle? In This Episode We Cover Creating a “hype folder” so you can painlessly ask for a raise Shopping the sales and feeding a family of five for $700 per month Creative house hacking by renting out basements, garages, and other dwelling areas Using a self-directed 401(k) to invest in real estate and grow retirement savings What to do with a large amount of cash while you’re waiting to invest? Outsourcing repetitive tasks in your business so you can scale And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Life can be challenging at times. When you think you’re in a stable spot, the universe tends to throw you one (or many) curveballs. In the realm of financial education, the smart early decisions we make can help alleviate the stress of these curveballs. This has happened almost to the tee for today’s guest, Karen Ferrero. Karen grew up in a small town to a middle-class family. She was a first-generation college graduate and worked throughout high school and college. She later took a job and began consulting in the tech world, which offered her a respectable salary. She got married and had two kids with her husband, but shortly after, her husband was paralyzed in a motorcycle accident. Not only that, her son was diagnosed with autism. Now, Karen had to sell her house, find a new accessible one, take her son to therapy every day, and continue working her full-time job. This put her in a sizable debt hole, but through strategic debt payoff and intelligent investing, Karen has come out on top. She still has a very high-paying job, a loving family and some very, very profitable investment accounts for her children that she started decades ago. In This Episode We Cover How to plan for when life changes your course by force The importance of having good insurance when you’re young Why you should always take advantage of the 401(k) match when presented to you Investing as early as you can to capitalize on massive gains Why you should put education accounts in a trust The extra costs that come with taking care of special needs family members And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kari and her wife made some big moves over the past few years. They packed up their stuff and left the San Francisco Bay Area for a relocation in the midwest. Unlike the Bay Area, the Midwest has many affordable housing options with plenty of chances to house hack. So, that’s exactly what the couple did! They bought a duplex in rough condition, put in close to $80,000 of renovations, and now get $900 a month from the side they’re renting out. Although this renovation allowed them to live for free, it put a $66,000 hole in their pockets, which they recently just paid off. Without much retirement savings or investments in general (save the house hack), Kari is wondering what she can do to maximize the extra $100,000 in after-tax income she and her wife bring in every year. Should she go the index funds route, buy another rental, or help her wife pursue her dreams by investing in a restaurant? Scott and Mindy give Kari a lot of ideas in this episode, many of which could help you as well! In This Episode We Cover Using “strategic debt” to grow your investments and income Planning your future finances when trying to start a family Investing in your 401(k), Roth IRA, Self-Directed 401(k), and other investment accounts Using the “Live in Flip” model to avoid paying capital gain taxes Why you shouldn’t diversify when you are in a low to moderate net worth category And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not everyone has the vagabond spirit of those who choose to optionally live out of their cars, trucks, or vans. While this isn’t up Scott and Mindy’s alley, it’s been perfectly fine for today’s guests Tien and Brandon. After deciding to end their lease before a road trip, Tien and Brandon found living in their specialty-built van wasn’t just habitable, but preferable for their lifestyle. This was especially true after paying pricey southern California rent. All this happened after making some impressive financial moves; paying off $50k of loans in eight months, flipping their first house, and buying a small portfolio of duplexes. Tien and Brandon have made a spree of financially intelligent moves, pushing themselves into a high net worth category, all while living in one of the most beautiful places on earth. As of March 2021, Tien and Brandon dismantled their truly remote lifestyle to settle into their first short-term rental house hack. They’ve been pulling in $8,000 a month (yes, a month) from their San Diego Airbnb property, which is not only covering their entire mortgage but paying them some profits to boot! In This Episode We Cover Paying off a large amount of student debt in a short period of time Finding side hustles that can support your saving and investing goals Making a plan to retire early and investing in income streams that will make it a reality Flipping a house without construction or real estate experience Investing out of state where you already have family/friends/relationships The hardest part of living in a van full-time (and its MAJOR benefits) House hacking with a short-term rental And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Retiring early can be a daunting task. Not only do you have to do more, with less time, but you have to stay diligent on your budgeting, expense tracking, and investing if you want to hit your goal by a certain age. Today we talk to Lisa, who wants to retire next year, in her mid-50s. While most people think early retirement means retiring in your 20s and 30s, this isn’t necessarily true. Retiring 10 years early, like Lisa, is a massive accomplishment, but requires the same skills needed for retiring decades earlier. Lisa has three pieces of property: a cash-flowing rental in pricey Boise, her primary residence in Washington, and a plot of land in North Idaho. She’s tinkered around with ideas of using her primary residence as a short-term rental, but unbeknownst to her is the fact that having a short-term rental could bankroll her retirement. She also has a sizable amount in retirement accounts, but none of those assets produce cash flow. Will Lisa be able to retire using the 4% rule with her retirement accounts? Or, should she use this last year of employment to double down on cash-flowing assets like rental properties? In This Episode We Cover Using the 4% rule to calculate how much you need to be invested to retire Leasing out your home as a short-term rental while you travel Choosing cash-flowing assets over assets that merely appreciate Calculating out your TRUE living expenses (with the Mindy Method!) Profiting off of land purchases and when the right time to sell is When the appropriate time to raise rents on a tenant is And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Most college students know next to nothing about money. Even worse, many of them sign on to expensive student loans with almost no plan on how they’re going to pay it back. While this is the average, some people, like Nathan Kennedy, host of The New Money Podcast, did things differently. Although he overspent a bit going out in college, Nathan graduated with a degree and $40,000 in cash, a MASSIVE amount for any college student. Through applying for grants, working at on-campus jobs, and collecting tip money as a bartender, Nathan was able to graduate in a solid position, allowing him to invest heavily in the stock market during the 2020 crash. Now, Nathan teaches others how they can strengthen their financial position through hard work, planning, and constant content consumption. If you have children who are in high school, college, or are newly graduated, send them this episode so they can have a leg up on future finances! In This Episode We Cover The importance of tracking your expenses and budgeting properly Vision boards, daily logs, and other ways to plan for your success Pursuing grants and scholarships WHILE school is in session Becoming a constant content consumer Money mistakes that many college students make (and how to avoid them) Making time for health, fitness, and no-phone relaxation And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices