
Episode 148
‘ESG is maturing, not dying’ – Weber, Zeno experts on PRWeek podcast
Beyond the Noise - the PRWeek podcast · PRWeek Podcasts
February 11, 202632m 52s
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Show Notes
<p>Are companies really retreating from ESG, or is the discipline evolving? PRWeek’s latest podcast takes a look.</p><p>Joining the latest episode of Beyond the Noise are Sarita Shah, senior vice-president at Weber Shandwick; and Sarah Ogden, chief client officer for Europe at Zeno Group.</p><p>Beyond the Noise looks at some of the biggest issues affecting communications and PR. Download the podcast via <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/beyond-the-noise-the-prweek-podcast/id1513615965" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0onUHcQsn5ITC1lYtW89jZ?si=c965c18c49724d2c&nd=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or listen on your favourite platform.</p><p>Speaking to PRWeek UK editor John Harrington, the guests assess how companies’ approaches to ESG [environmental, social, and governance] policies really changed in 2025 amid the so-called ‘retreat from ESG’ in the second Trump presidency.</p><p>This includes looking at regional differences between America, Europe and elsewhere, and asking whether it is ‘performative’ ESG that has been curbed.</p><p>The role of comms in ESG, and how comms departments are embedding the skills, are also discussed. The duo examine major changes so far this year – and predict what lies ahead. They also question whether the ESG acronym will survive in the future, and discuss whether comms should ‘own’ the genre.</p><p>Shah and Ogden begin the podcast by looking at the biggest lessons from the World Economic Forum in Davos – and how the industry should adapt to the ‘new world order’.</p>
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