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Chief Frank Leeb returns: Make yourself ‘difficult to injure, impossible to kill’
Episode 162

Chief Frank Leeb returns: Make yourself ‘difficult to injure, impossible to kill’

Better Every Shift

November 30, 20231h 12m

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Show Notes

To help Better Every Shift mark its milestone 1-year anniversary, our very first guest, FDNY Chief of Safety Frank Leeb, returns to the show to talk all things leadership, safety and training – including the critical mindset that “we owe it to our loved ones to be better every day to make sure that we are making ourselves difficult to injure and impossible to kill.”

Plus, we dig into all this:

  • What Leeb believes will keep fire chiefs up at night for the next 20 years 
  • Key principles from Leeb’s new book, “Cornerstones of Leadership,” including his favorite chapter
  • Leeb’s advice for giving crews just the right amount of information to get the job done
  • Training lineages and why “we need to have as many children as possible”
  • How to give crews both “tasty and nutritious” training (and why M&Ms should sponsor the show)
  • Leeb’s personal connection to encouraging bystander CPR education
  • Where Leeb sees himself in 1 year
  • A shared love of Tigger, naturally

Episode power quote: “I will never retire from the fire service because the one thing I know for sure is that I could live to be 150 years old, and I will never go to enough fires to satisfy my appetite to go to fires.”

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